ICM Partners Drops Celine Dion As Client For Not Paying Commission

[scielle]

I understand that, however the sarcasm I meant in the post… is that she doesn’t seem to have a agent. Her career seems to be like a family owned restaurant where the owner is also the chef, janitor, and bartender.

 

Ah, yes. Indeed.

 

I get wanting to be surrounded by people you trust, but at some point, you need actual subject matter experts who know what they're doing... and even based on reading that complaint and how Aldo, Denis, Dave operate... well, it's what we'd call in the business "unsophisticated"...

[Nmj]

 

 

Ah, yes. Indeed.

 

I get wanting to be surrounded by people you trust, but at some point, you need actual subject matter experts who know what they're doing... and even based on reading that complaint and how Aldo, Denis, Dave operate... well, it's what we'd call in the business "unsophisticated"...

 

I agree 100%. ^

I’m not a big follower on Celine’s fashion, I more so care about the music but I think that is also why others here and myself included, saw problems when Pepe was hired as her co-stylist. Of course it’s her life and she can hire and fire whomever she wishes, but maybe just maybe he wasn’t the most qualified for that job.

Also, her brother Michel being her stage manager, was that because she wanted to employ a family member; which is a comfort thing for Celine, or because he was “qualified”? (Perhaps both?)

 

I like fact that Celine is a loyal person to her “extended family” but her career is a also a business that sometimes should be less personal and more business. I do believe that in the post Rene era that she has begun to see this more & more.

[PuraVida]

I understand that, however the sarcasm I meant in the post… is that she doesn’t seem to have a agent. Her career seems to be like a family owned restaurant where the owner is also the chef, janitor, and bartender.

 

Not the Nickels slander

 

I always thought doing the nepotism and keeping the team so very Quebecoise was a hindrance. No doubt it also kept Celine safe and made her happy though...

[Alex_Incognito]

Not the Nickels slander

 

But that Celine cake is to die for!

[scielle]

I always thought doing the nepotism and keeping the team so very Quebecoise was a hindrance. No doubt it also kept Celine safe and made her happy though...

 

I think it kept Celine safe, sane and healthy.

 

Fame at that level attracts leeches. I think having family and pre-stardom friends around is what kept her from succumbing to the vices that brought down so many others at her level. How many child stars make it through to their 50s unscathed, working consistently through all that time? Most I can think of have either quit / weren't able to sustain the work and life and the spotlight, or ended up in rehab (or dead).

[Alex_Incognito]

I see nothing wrong with them using Quebecois companies and employees - nothing wrong with being surrounded by people that speak your own language and understand you. If you lived the Quebec experience in Canada---surrounded by anglophones----you'd understand.

[PuraVida]

I think it kept Celine safe, sane and healthy.

 

Fame at that level attracts leeches. I think having family and pre-stardom friends around is what kept her from succumbing to the vices that brought down so many others at her level. How many child stars make it through to their 50s unscathed, working consistently through all that time? Most I can think of have either quit / weren't able to sustain the work and life and the spotlight, or ended up in rehab (or dead).

 

 

What kept Celine safe, sane, and health into her adulthood career was her mom being with her al the time, her family, Rene, and trusted people like Eddy Marnay. But once you are an adult, keep family and friends around you that you trust----but don't have them doing jobs they are not qualified for, especially when there are more talented people around!

 

A stable childhood will help create a stable adulthood. Celine already had that, that's not the question. But for a huge global media push, you probably want firms and talent from NYC/Paris/London/Los Angeles

I think it kept Celine safe, sane and healthy.

 

Fame at that level attracts leeches. I think having family and pre-stardom friends around is what kept her from succumbing to the vices that brought down so many others at her level. How many child stars make it through to their 50s unscathed, working consistently through all that time? Most I can think of have either quit / weren't able to sustain the work and life and the spotlight, or ended up in rehab (or dead).

 

Celine was kept safe and happy during her childhood, always accompanied by her mother and having many trustworthy adult siblings to look after her. That is where most child stars first have it rough, and it only goes downhill from there. I don't think Celine ever would have been in danger of such a fate.

 

All I'll say is, I am very glad they are going with Irene Tayor Brodsky for this documentary, an award-winning and degree-holding trained filmmaker rather than some film school BA partner of someone in their team. I'm joking, but I could have seen them going with a lesser-known or less-qualified Quebecois filmmaker.

[Céline RO]

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I think it kept Celine safe, sane and healthy.

 

Fame at that level attracts leeches. I think having family and pre-stardom friends around is what kept her from succumbing to the vices that brought down so many others at her level. How many child stars make it through to their 50s unscathed, working consistently through all that time? Most I can think of have either quit / weren't able to sustain the work and life and the spotlight, or ended up in rehab (or dead).

 

Yes, as Céline has said so many times, it’s thanks to her being surrounded by the right people that she didn’t suffer the same fate as so many others in show business. She has also said on multiple occasions that she always felt a bit guilty that she had tremendous success while her brothers and sisters who were just as talented didn’t. Perhaps it’s that guilt together with the gratitude she feels that made her so determined to give back as much as she could.

Edited October 3, 2021 at 07:33 AM by Céline RO

[nuts2you]

Do you think this has anything to do with her not saying anything , if the tour will continue ,Cause she most likely doesnt want to give anything comm to him,

[ryba]

I agree 100%. ^

I’m not a big follower on Celine’s fashion, I more so care about the music but I think that is also why others here and myself included, saw problems when Pepe was hired as her co-stylist. Of course it’s her life and she can hire and fire whomever she wishes, but maybe just maybe he wasn’t the most qualified for that job.

Also, her brother Michel being her stage manager, was that because she wanted to employ a family member; which is a comfort thing for Celine, or because he was “qualified”? (Perhaps both?)

 

I like fact that Celine is a loyal person to her “extended family” but her career is a also a business that sometimes should be less personal and more business. I do believe that in the post Rene era that she has begun to see this more & more.

I think a stage manager as her brother who works behind the scenes and is responsible for Celine arriving on time is fine, but a stylist is a whole other subject matter. A stylist is responsible for the way she looks to the world once she makes an appearence, and Pepe made her look not her best at all. Annie Horth did a much better job actually. I still don't understand why she was fired. Can someone remind me?

[maki_Dion-er]

Nothing wrong with Celine having family around helping her. They are not running her career, leading her marketing team, etc lol. But are we forgetting the reason she was "discovered" is because her mom and brother wrote her first song? Which was a good song.

 

So many artists have trouble in the music industry because, unfortunately, they trusted the wrong people. Maybe it's Celine that is doing things right.

Her team may flounder on some things (many times) but I think it's safe to say they have her best interest at heart, they follow what she wants as opposed to forcing her into things she doesn't want. Maybe it's she that is playing things safe in her career atm, but if/when she gets a fire under her maybe she'll reach out to new people (like she did with Law).

 

And I'm so tired of the Pepe argument. Even Law had some terrible outfits that he put Celine into. Annie was safe and Celine wanted something more, that's why she went to Law.

[AdrienneM]

People also seem to forget that the entire Celineissance, her large resurgence in pop culture and her being deemed a fashion icon came with Laws groundwork, foundations and connections, and continued on under Pepe and Sydney. Nothing Annie did received more than a “oh, that’s a safe gown. Cool”. Blazers and trousers for every appearance, event and promotional run gets very tired very quickly. Had Annie not got the boot, Celine would’ve never experienced that type of resurgence, and that’s just a fact.

[smw]

People also seem to forget that the entire Celineissance, her large resurgence in pop culture and her being deemed a fashion icon came with Laws groundwork, foundations and connections, and continued on under Pepe and Sydney. Nothing Annie did received more than a “oh, that’s a safe gown. Cool”. Blazers and trousers for every appearance, event and promotional run gets very tired very quickly. Had Annie not got the boot, Celine would’ve never experienced that type of resurgence, and that’s just a fact.

 

Agreed.

Annie did a nice job - and she helped to make Celine look pretty. But it was always safe and pretty boring.

 

Law changed the game - and Celine, as a public figure, had a huge rebirth thanks to their collaboration.

[ryba]

I can’t believe that there are no pics from Celine at the court hearing or her arriving there. It’s crazy.

[PuraVida]

I can’t believe that there are no pics from Celine at the court hearing or her arriving there. It’s crazy.

 

Did she actually attend?

[Peppercorn1991]

I can’t believe that there are no pics from Celine at the court hearing or her arriving there. It’s crazy.

 

It was probably online at that time.

 

Kev x

[idroveallnight]

I can’t believe that there are no pics from Celine at the court hearing or her arriving there. It’s crazy.

 

It was over Zoom.

[scielle]

It looks like Rob Prinz is launching his own outfit: https://celebrityaccess.com/2022/10/25/rob-prinz-launches-mlb-booking/

 

His exit from ICM was announced some time ago, and I’ve always wondered if it was voluntary or if he was pushed out (perhaps partially as a result of the Céline fallout?)

 

In any case, he’s certainly taking credit for the work…

 

“Prinz, who most recently served as Head of Worldwide Concerts at ICM Partners, where he represented longtime clients such as Celine Dion, including representing her during the dealmaking for her vaunted Las Vegas residency at the Colosseum at Caesars Palace in Las Vegas.”

[scielle]

All this drama over a tour and residency that may never ultimately materialize.

 

Hopefully she’s well insured under this contract and the obligation of it is not weighing too heavily over her as she deals with her diagnosis.

 

And I hope that AEG has learned their lesson with MJ and aren’t pushing her into anything she’s not ready for. It seems medications to treat SPS may be the addictive kind so yet another thing to worry about when it comes to Celine’s health.

[PuraVida]

I wonder if she can use a force majeure defense, or a "frustration of purpose" / impossibility or impracticality defense.

 

She could not have foreseen the pandemic nor this 1-in-a-million diagnosis. That could relieve her of the contract. Or her lawyers could argue given the circumstances, it is unrealistic to expect her to fulfill the contract.