Celine is part of Today Show's Summer Concert Series 2016

[isurrender]

Don't want her to drop this song unless she can replace it with an alternative. Sometimes there's hardly any uptempo songs, without this it would be

She needs to start singing it like the original, and maybe include choir backup vocals like the version with God's Property.

 

She sang it live with a choir back in 2008 in South Africa.

 

I wonder what it sounded like. There's no mp3 or whatsoever... I think she might have sung the song more "properly" .

 

Too bad they didn't include it on the dvd of the show as a bonus or on the documentary. The thing is they used a picture with this choir for a special edition of the tour box set!

 

But in all fairness, she shouldn't have recorded this song right from the start. This song was already old-fashioned the day it was released.

[celine4evauk]

 

 

She sang it live with a choir back in 2008 in South Africa.

 

I wonder what it sounded like. There's no mp3 or whatsoever... I think she might have sung the song more "properly" .

 

Too bad they didn't include it on the dvd of the show as a bonus or on the documentary. The thing is they used a picture with this choir for a special edition of the tour box set!

 

But in all fairness, she shouldn't have recorded this song right from the start. This song was already old-fashioned the day it was released.

 

Not sure I agree with your last point lol

[Xpresso]

She needs to surprise us with songs that non-fans don't really know.

Something fresh would be great!

[LukeD]

But in all fairness, she shouldn't have recorded this song right from the start. This song was already old-fashioned the day it was released.

Why do you think so? The beat sounds like a 90s song to me. Edited May 15, 2016 at 07:14 PM by LukeD

[Brandon]

As a tribute to France!!!

Haha, I was just gonna say the same.

[Brandon]

Why do you think so? The beat sounds like a 90s song to me.

Yea, It's so "Arsenio Hall-ish" Never was one of faves though. At her concerts, it's the one that the Granny's always stand up and sway to.

[isurrender]

Why do you think so? The beat sounds like a 90s song to me.

 

The album "Celine Dion" differs from "Unison" because they wanted her to settle in the States. This album is perfect from track 1 to track 14 minus track 2, don't get me wrong.

 

It screams all over "AMERICAN'S AC MUSIC" of its period. To me, it's like they said " ok, what's the US known for? Oh yeah , Gospel". So they went for a gospel-inspired song...

Its message is cheesy, church-ish and conservative. Music is bland and boring. It misses soul or experience from Céline's side cause she was not raised in the Bronx lol. I don't buy it a sec.

It's an attempt to seduce the black community but Céline is not a soul singer (even less @ that time...). Her vocals are completely out of place for that kind of song.

Funny because the album ends with "Nothing broken but my heart" which integrates a choir but it works because the purpose it not be a "gospel song". Same goes for "Call the man". Then it reaches its top on songs like "Ain't gonna look the other way" or "Thankful" because there's imperfections and a real vocal identity.

 

Back in 2008 in "La methode Cauet" ( France), she was asked about gospel....

 

And the funniest thing is when she did "The voice" US.... she did a duet with a black girl... and guess what song did they sing?

 

LCMM is a bad up-tempo song and the worse song of the album to me. Only white old converservative women can like it. Sorry lol. "A little bit of love" and its funky-inspired touch is better and later, "No living without loving you" ( so weird... i listened to it recently... the build up of the song reminds me of "love of top" by Beyonce) and "Lovin proof" have better 90's black-ish inspiration tone.

Edited May 16, 2016 at 03:04 PM by isurrender

[celine4evauk]

 

 

The album "Celine Dion" differs from "Unison" because they wanted her to settle in the States. This album is perfect from track 1 to track 14 minus track 2, don't get me wrong.

 

It screams all over "AMERICAN'S AC MUSIC" of its period. To me, it's like they said " ok, what's the US known for? Oh yeah , Gospel". So they went for a gospel-inspired song...

Its message is cheesy, church-ish and conservative. Music is bland and boring. It misses soul or experience from Céline's side cause she was not raised in the Bronx lol. I don't buy it a sec.

It's an attempt to seduce the black community but Céline is not a soul singer (even less @ that time...). Her vocals are completely out of place for that kind of song.

Funny because the album ends with "Nothing broken but my heart" which integrates a choir but it works because the purpose it not be a "gospel song". Same goes for "Call the man". Then it reaches its top on songs like "Ain't gonna look the other way" or "Thankful" because there's imperfections and a real vocal identity.

 

Back in 2008 in "La methode Cauet" ( France), she was asked about gospel....

 

And the funniest thing is when she did "The voice" US.... she did a duet with a black girl... and guess what song did they sing?

 

LCMM is a bad up-tempo song and the worse song of the album to me. Only white old converservative women can like it. Sorry lol. "A little bit of love" and its funky-inspired touch is better and later, "No living without loving you" ( so weird... i listened to it recently... the build up of the song reminds me of "love of top" by Beyonce) and "Lovin proof" have better 90's black-ish inspiration tone.

 

Celine isn't allowed to sing gospel/gospel inspired,or sing with a black woman that particular song - even though it's one of the few uptempo,fun,well known celine songs? Wow

And I won't lower myself with a reaction to the "white old women" comment.

To me Lovin Proof, NLWLY etc sound far more dated than LCMM 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[CelinesDIVO5]

Celine isn't allowed to sing gospel/gospel inspired,or sing with a black woman that particular song - even though it's one of the few uptempo,fun,well known celine songs? Wow

And I won't lower myself with a reaction to the "white old women" comment.

To me Lovin Proof, NLWLY etc sound far more dated than LCMM

 

Agreed, although I don't think that LP and NLWLY sound dated for the time they were released. Now they sound EXTREMELY dated. They were not written or arranged to stand the test of time, that is for sure. But they certainly fit into that early to mid 90's cheesy AC genre

[québecflower]

Celine isn't allowed to sing gospel/gospel inspired,or sing with a black woman that particular song - even though it's one of the few uptempo,fun,well known celine songs? Wow

And I won't lower myself with a reaction to the "white old women" comment.

To me Lovin Proof, NLWLY etc sound far more dated than LCMM

you have to remember, Celine has no soul...this is what we read frequently. Just because she doesn't add ad-libs very lines she sings, because she is able to be square on the note, that means she has no soul, not that she have talent.

[CelinesDIVO5]

The album "Celine Dion" differs from "Unison" because they wanted her to settle in the States. This album is perfect from track 1 to track 14 minus track 2, don't get me wrong.

 

It screams all over "AMERICAN'S AC MUSIC" of its period. To me, it's like they said " ok, what's the US known for? Oh yeah , Gospel". So they went for a gospel-inspired song...

Its message is cheesy, church-ish and conservative. Music is bland and boring. It misses soul or experience from Céline's side cause she was not raised in the Bronx lol. I don't buy it a sec.

It's an attempt to seduce the black community but Céline is not a soul singer (even less @ that time...). Her vocals are completely out of place for that kind of song.

Funny because the album ends with "Nothing broken but my heart" which integrates a choir but it works because the purpose it not be a "gospel song". Same goes for "Call the man". Then it reaches its top on songs like "Ain't gonna look the other way" or "Thankful" because there's imperfections and a real vocal identity.

 

Back in 2008 in "La methode Cauet" ( France), she was asked about gospel....

 

And the funniest thing is when she did "The voice" US.... she did a duet with a black girl... and guess what song did they sing?

 

LCMM is a bad up-tempo song and the worse song of the album to me. Only white old converservative women can like it. Sorry lol. "A little bit of love" and its funky-inspired touch is better and later, "No living without loving you" ( so weird... i listened to it recently... the build up of the song reminds me of "love of top" by Beyonce) and "Lovin proof" have better 90's black-ish inspiration tone.

 

I'm pretty sure that they were trying to find Celine's niche after "Unison" in the English market. Especially the US. It's very clear to me that they were going for an r&b sound for Celine with her self titled album. I don't exactly look at CD as a pop album. I listen to it, and it is full fledged, early 90's r&b.This album is one of the most coherent in terms of it's sound, and I don't think skin color has anything to do with what genre of music you should sing.

[celine4evauk]

 

 

Agreed, although I don't think that LP and NLWLY sound dated for the time they were released. Now they sound EXTREMELY dated. They were not written or arranged to stand the test of time, that is for sure. But they certainly fit into that early to mid 90's cheesy AC genre

 

Exactly. That was my point. They sound dated now. Whereas LCMM apparently sounded dated from the get go, I mean really 😞

 

On a side note, I think this forum needs a dislike button alongside the like 😂

[isurrender]

Celine isn't allowed to sing gospel/gospel inspired,or sing with a black woman that particular song - even though it's one of the few uptempo,fun,well known celine songs? Wow

And I won't lower myself with a reaction to the "white old women" comment.

To me Lovin Proof, NLWLY etc sound far more dated than LCMM ������������

 

I'm not saying "She's not allowed"...but she shouldn't.

We are lucky enough because Céline can sing a lot of styles but there's a difference to try something and to sing an un-inspired song over and over for 3 decades!

I'm talking about LCMM here... but Céline has already been in the middle of such topics with "Shook me all night long" and she probably will again with "the show must go on".

 

And I don't see "Lovin' proof " or "NLWLY" as dated. They have a retro/old-school vibe (or try to re-create at least) that completely fits the atmosphere of the album beside "When I fall in love" or songs like "Next plane out " or "I remember L.A."

 

You can agree or not with my vision of " song for old white women" if you want to... Céline has been part of a sociocultural (and the "black debate" has already been discussed here and there, even in books about Céline) , artistic and soulful debate right from the start.

I'm so sorry to elevate the debate a bit... you can go on talking about her eyebrown or ponytail if you think it's not lowering you.

 

I'm pretty sure that they were trying to find Celine's niche after "Unison" in the English market. Especially the US. It's very clear to me that they were going for an r&b sound for Celine with her self titled album. I don't exactly look at CD as a pop album. I listen to it, and it is full fledged, early 90's r&b.This album is one of the most coherent in terms of it's sound, and I don't think skin color has anything to do with what genre of music you should sing.

 

I agree with you about the Celine Dion album but I'm not making up things here. Skin colour has/had something to do with a genre of music or at least officially. The Urban chart was originally set up for African American singers for example.

 

But on the other side, I can admit I might be biaised about LCMM... because around the same period Mariah Carey released "Make it happen" a gospel-soul-dance track ( as LCMM) and it's just wayyyyyy better.

On the other hand, LCMM doesn't fit the Celine Dion album as it's filled with break up songs and that's the only one with a message of hope.

Edited May 16, 2016 at 04:47 PM by isurrender

[idroveallnight]

Of course the one summer I am out of town she is singing. Bahhh!!

[mike_z]

"Don't be fooled by the rocks that I've got... I'm still, I'm still Ce-lee from the Block!"

 

[celine4evauk]

 

 

I'm not saying "She's not allowed"...but she shouldn't.

We are lucky enough because Céline can sing a lot of styles but there's a difference to try something and to sing an un-inspired song over and over for 3 decades!

I'm talking about LCMM here... but Céline has already been in the middle of such topics with "Shook me all night long" and she probably will again with "the show must go on".

 

And I don't see "Lovin' proof " or "NLWLY" as dated. They have a retro/old-school vibe (or try to re-create at least) that completely fits the atmosphere of the album beside "When I fall in love" or songs like "Next plane out " or "I remember L.A."

 

You can agree or not with my vision of " song for old white women" if you want to... Céline has been part of a sociocultural (and the "black debate" has already been discussed here and there, even in books about Céline) , artistic and soulful debate right from the start.

I'm so sorry to elevate the debate a bit... you can go on talking about her eyebrown or ponytail if you think it's not lowering you.

 

 

 

I agree with you about the Celine Dion album but I'm not making up things here. Skin colour has/had something to do with a genre of music or at least officially. The Urban chart was originally set up for African American singers for example.

 

But on the other side, I can admit I might be biaised about LCMM... because around the same period Mariah Carey released "Make it happen" a gospel-soul-dance track ( as LCMM) and it's just wayyyyyy better.

On the other hand, LCMM doesn't fit the Celine Dion album as it's filled with break up songs and that's the only one with a message of hope.

 

Actually if you read who posts what you will see I haven't been part of the eyebrows or ponytail debate. So no lowering from me thank you.

Perhaps you should tell celine not to record any soul/r&b songs - because she wasn't brought up in the Bronx. Tell her to stick with french/canadian music.

 

Perhaps it's time to get back to the topic,otherwise this will turn into a LCMM topic 😂😂

Edited May 16, 2016 at 05:42 PM by celine4evauk

[Davey84]

 

 

Perhaps it's time to get back to the topic,otherwise this will turn into a LCMM topic

 

Erm won't it anyway? We all know she'll sing it during this concert!?!

 

[québecflower]

Erm won't it anyway? We all know she'll sing it during this concert!?!

maybe she can do it unplugged?

[Xpresso]

I don't mind dancing with white grandmas!! "Shall we go for it!?"

[comingback]

http://66.media.tumblr.com/1605423ab1096d9043a2c066f5e7a3ab/tumblr_n7i1l5ag0R1qa4phqo3_400.gif

 

She will sing it anyway, so be prepared.. (btw:I like the orginal version).

So can we go on..

Edited May 16, 2016 at 06:48 PM by comingback

[Timster]

If she does do LCMM on the Today Show, I'm more worried about the fact that she'll start with "Oceans deep..." instead of the first verse and then move onto RDMH, which should have been removed from her show after TCWT. Edited May 16, 2016 at 06:50 PM by Timster

[LukeD]

^ I agree. RDMH and ABM should have been removed after the TCWT.

 

I hope she avoids the LCMM / RDMH and IACBTMN / TPOL medleys and any cover she currently sings at Vegas. I want this to be a Vegas-free appearance.

 

I don't know how many songs she'll be singing but I guess she could go for MHWGO, TTWII, LMBTL, ANDHC and TLYM which I have missed.

Edited May 16, 2016 at 07:08 PM by LukeD

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

I'm not saying "She's not allowed"...but she shouldn't.

We are lucky enough because Céline can sing a lot of styles but there's a difference to try something and to sing an un-inspired song over and over for 3 decades!

I'm talking about LCMM here... but Céline has already been in the middle of such topics with "Shook me all night long" and she probably will again with "the show must go on".

 

And I don't see "Lovin' proof " or "NLWLY" as dated. They have a retro/old-school vibe (or try to re-create at least) that completely fits the atmosphere of the album beside "When I fall in love" or songs like "Next plane out " or "I remember L.A."

 

You can agree or not with my vision of " song for old white women" if you want to... Céline has been part of a sociocultural (and the "black debate" has already been discussed here and there, even in books about Céline) , artistic and soulful debate right from the start.

I'm so sorry to elevate the debate a bit... you can go on talking about her eyebrown or ponytail if you think it's not lowering you.

 

 

 

I agree with you about the Celine Dion album but I'm not making up things here. Skin colour has/had something to do with a genre of music or at least officially. The Urban chart was originally set up for African American singers for example.

 

But on the other side, I can admit I might be biaised about LCMM... because around the same period Mariah Carey released "Make it happen" a gospel-soul-dance track ( as LCMM) and it's just wayyyyyy better.

On the other hand, LCMM doesn't fit the Celine Dion album as it's filled with break up songs and that's the only one with a message of hope.

 

Then according to your logic, black people shouldn't sing country music as well? I see what you're saying, but perpetuating this type of racial foolishness doesn't help at all. I dont see LCMM as trying to be anything but an upbeat and uplifting song. We might be sick of it, but it's a good song and fit the time it was released. I find the entire album to be a masterpiece and I love Celine's vocals on R&B tracks. It didn't come off contrived or forced.

[Nmj]

 

 

I'm pretty sure that they were trying to find Celine's niche after "Unison" in the English market. Especially the US. It's very clear to me that they were going for an r&b sound for Celine with her self titled album. I don't exactly look at CD as a pop album. I listen to it, and it is full fledged, early 90's r&b.This album is one of the most coherent in terms of it's sound, and I don't think skin color has anything to do with what genre of music you should sing.

 

I actually think that in English her best material is the more RnB stuff. I don't know if many will agree with me but I love to hear Celine use a lot of her low register. And I also like to hear when she does the high notes in RnB.

 

I will ALWAYS LOVE "Dreaming Of You" off of FIY and "Why oh Why" off of LTAL

Edited May 16, 2016 at 07:40 PM by Nmj

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

I actually think that in English her best material is the more RnB stuff. I don't know if many will agree with me but I love to hear Celine use a lot of her low register. And I also like to hear when she does the high notes in RnB.

 

I will ALWAYS LOVE "Dreaming Of You" off of FIY and "Why oh Why" off of LTAL

 

I love both of those songs!!! And I'm in the minority with "Forget Me Not." I love that one too.

[Nmj]

 

 

I love both of those songs!!! And I'm in the minority with "Forget Me Not." I love that one too.

 

Nope as do I. Lol

 

The only RnB song I really don't like that much is "New Dawn"

Edited May 16, 2016 at 07:49 PM by Nmj

[comingback]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=736dKeKY41g

 

In 1998, Dion re-recorded "Love Can Move Mountains" with a gospel group God's Property, for the soundtrack of the popular CBS-TV drama Touched by an Angel. She also appeared as herself on one episode of the series, titled Psalm 151, and performed the song.

[LukeD]

LCMM is not a bad song in my opinion. Celine makes it bad because she goes wild when performing it. She needs to slow it down, add a bigger choir and sing it more carefully.

 

And I as well enjoy her rnb stuff like Forget Me Not (silk voice), Why Oh Why and Halfway To Heaven.

Edited May 16, 2016 at 08:31 PM by LukeD

[DionFanAlways]

Although I can't wait for this I just can't stop thinking why? Why would she be performing without anything new coming out in English? It is really boggling my brain! Do they have something up their sleeve?

Tbh I will be soooooo tempted to switch channels if I hear, '......and now Celine Dion' Faaaaaaith, Truuuuust Loooooveeee........'

 

(Well, you know I wouldn't change the channel but )

 

I can definitely see TSMGO since this is apparently her new mantra.

Edited May 16, 2016 at 09:34 PM by DionFanAlways

[Xpresso]

She will probably sing one of the Prince songs she does in LV.