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[the_hero_ricky]

How many SAVD did Celine release?
Have any one brought them?
How do they different from normal CD?
How much are they compare to normal CD?
How do they sound like?

[Charlie92]

All the Way: A Decade of Songs is SAVD (Super Audio CD)
It's designed to provide high-resolution audio in surround sound and stereo modes. It's kinda same as DVD.
It's made to sound better but it's not that bigger deal actually. It hasn't been a successful creation

Edited by Charlie92, 01 July 2009 - 05:56 AM.

[AllCeline]

I think there's an SACD of ANDHC too... not sure, but I think there is.

[Javito]

AllCeline, on Jul 1 2009, 03:34 PM, said:

I think there's an SACD of ANDHC too... not sure, but I think there is.

That's right, there's another one for ANDHC album

[kinou1985]

yes it exists andhc sacd cause i own it but i never read it , i don't own sacd player

[the_hero_ricky]

kinou1985, on Jul 2 2009, 03:43 AM, said:

yes it exists andhc sacd cause i own it but i never read it , i don't own sacd player

Then why did you buy this?

[the_hero_ricky]

I always want to listen to higher quality music, and I found Celine Dion's records are often have some problem,
for example when you listen to I Want You To Need Me in All the way... A Decad of Songs at 3:38 or All By Myself in Falling into You at 3:04 and 3:15, there are some glitch sound,when you go near the speaker or when you listen to earphone, you can hear it very clear.A lot of Celine's Records is like this.

Edited by the_hero_ricky, 01 July 2009 - 06:17 PM.

[idroveallnight]

If you ever watch the music video collection from ATW, there are some songs, especially on TTWII where the sound is so remarkably enhanced.  You need stereo surround sound for this though.  It really enriches your listening experience.

[the_hero_ricky]

idroveallnight, on Jul 2 2009, 10:35 AM, said:

If you ever watch the music video collection from ATW, there are some songs, especially on TTWII where the sound is so remarkably enhanced.  You need stereo surround sound for this though.  It really enriches your listening experience.

What is TTWII?

[Chula]

That's The Way It Is

[celinecolombian]

That's The Way It Is

[the_hero_ricky]

idroveallnight, on Jul 2 2009, 10:35 AM, said:

If you ever watch the music video collection from ATW, there are some songs, especially on TTWII where the sound is so remarkably enhanced.  You need stereo surround sound for this though.  It really enriches your listening experience.

The DVD is 5.1 surround?
Can I bought the DVD without CD?

[the_hero_ricky]

Have anyone bought this:All the Way: A Decade of Song (Eco-Friendly Packaging)
I saw in on amazon and im wondering what is mean by Eco-Friendly Packaging

http://www.amazon.co...F...969&sr=8-12

[Bruno Portugal]

I also have D'Eux SACD...

[Belle Céline]

I saw the SACD's at Best Buy once, never paid much attention to it. I have the regular cd and I like the sound just fine, so I'm not buying something more expensive just because its supposedly has better sound.

[Bellamy]

Divas 1998 and Divas 2002 also has SACD. So Celine has 4 SACD so far.

[Koolan]

Those don't count, Bellamy...

[CDI]

It does have better sound but ONLY if you can afford to go out and buy a SACD player with a 5.1 Surround Sound speaker system included!

Stereo (normal CD's) have 2 channels, Stereo, a Left and Right audio track which make up the song.

SACD's have 5 Channels, 5.1,
1. a Centre Channel (usually used for Vocals but mainly for beats and percussion)
2. a Left Channel (usually just an enchanced version from the CD)
3. a Right Channel (usually just an enhanced version from the CD)
4. a Back Left Channel (usually used for Strings and ehco effects, the vocals are usually muted or just echoed in this but with additional hidden instruments not audible in the normal Stereo CD!)
5. a Back Right Channel (usually used for Strings and ehco effects, the vocals are usually muted or just echoed in thisbut with additional hidden instruments not audible in the normal Stereo CD!)

and then the .1 of 5.1 is the Base!

Basically they shoulda just released them as DVD Audio CD's, that way any DVD player with 5.1 surround could play them and they probably would have been more successful as you wouldn't need to go and buy a new player. I'm suprised Blu-Ray is taking off as this is the same... most new DVD players are HD anyway, but now that HD has ceased you have no option but to go buy a BluRay player if want to watch BluRay DVD's!

[sazzlepop123]

CDI, on Jul 5 2009, 11:34 AM, said:

It does have better sound but ONLY if you can afford to go out and buy a SACD player with a 5.1 Surround Sound speaker system included!

Stereo (normal CD's) have 2 channels, Stereo, a Left and Right audio track which make up the song.

SACD's have 5 Channels, 5.1,
1. a Centre Channel (usually used for Vocals but mainly for beats and percussion)
2. a Left Channel (usually just an enchanced version from the CD)
3. a Right Channel (usually just an enhanced version from the CD)
4. a Back Left Channel (usually used for Strings and ehco effects, the vocals are usually muted or just echoed in this but with additional hidden instruments not audible in the normal Stereo CD!)
5. a Back Right Channel (usually used for Strings and ehco effects, the vocals are usually muted or just echoed in thisbut with additional hidden instruments not audible in the normal Stereo CD!)

and then the .1 of 5.1 is the Base!

Basically they shoulda just released them as DVD Audio CD's, that way any DVD player with 5.1 surround could play them and they probably would have been more successful as you wouldn't need to go and buy a new player. I'm suprised Blu-Ray is taking off as this is the same... most new DVD players are HD anyway, but now that HD has ceased you have no option but to go buy a BluRay player if want to watch BluRay DVD's!

  Thanks for explaining, I didn't really know what  you were all talking about!!!

[Bellamy]

CDI, on Jul 5 2009, 06:34 PM, said:

I'm suprised Blu-Ray is taking off as this is the same... most new DVD players are HD anyway, but now that HD has ceased you have no option but to go buy a BluRay player if want to watch BluRay DVD's!

Upscale DVD to HD is not the same as HD on Blu-ray, actually far worse.

[Javito]

Has anybody listened All The Way or A New Day Has Come in SACD yet? I see there are some of us with a copie of these but none has ever listened them because we don't own a SACD player

I'm considering to buy a Blu-ray player which reads also SACD discs, but I wanted to know before if the experience is as good as I have read in some reviews. They say that All The Way is similar to what you can hear in the 5.1 mix of the DVD, but better and with an enhanced sound (in the DVD you can actually hear additional instruments not audible in the standard CD). And with ANDHC SACD, the experience seems to be the same or even greater, the multichannel option offering more instruments not present in the regular CD Well if that's true, I think its a must-have to me since yesterday , but I want to know opinions from fans here (if there are some who have listened these albums in this format of course!)

[Javito]

I see its like talking with stones here    but here are some pictures of the ANDHC Super Audio CD, not the US version but the Japanese release. Unfortunately it doesn't include Superlove either (but they amended that in the CE of 2008 fortunately ). And as usual, the quality of the package, the printing details and the booklet is better than the US edition



Can't wait to get the Sony BD with SACD compatibility

[fred]

What happened to this format? Where there special players for these cds?

/fred

[Javito]

fred, on Jan 10 2011, 04:41 PM, said:

What happened to this format? Where there special players for these cds?

/fred

Yes, you need a DVD or hi-fi system that includes Super Audio CD compatibility to play these CDs, though there are some releases that despite being designed for SACD players, they also include a portion that can be played in a normal CD player also (Shania Twain's Up! for example). It's not the case of Céline's SACD though.

The format was popular in the US and with mainly all genres of music, but especially with classical music. I don't know if they're still produced today, but they have become very collectable because of the great sound experience they provide. It's like the difference between a stereo movie and a home theater surround sound DVD, but with a music CD. It really includes sounds and instruments that you can't hear in the standard CD (you can check this yourself if you put the 5.1 surround mix of the All The Way DVD).

I know they were very popular in the early 00's, when Sony released many of those years new releases in this format too, as well as in MiniDisc. The disadvantage is that you had to buy a SACD system to play this discs, because a standard DVD won't support them. That's why they released also other versions in DVD-Audio, that had compatibility with regular DVD players (again, Shania's UP! was simultaneously released in SACD as well as in DVD-Audio too in 2003). Now there are some Blu-ray models that include this format (and I've heard the PS3 includes it too).

Here's an interesting website with information about them and a database with the titles that have been releases so far http://www.sa-cd.net/home

[celine_93]

I've got TTWII in dts format, I might upload it for you guys to tell the difference. I've listened with my shitty speakers and already I can hear some instruments clearer than the original audio. bear with me.

EDIT: http://www.mediafire...6zsy893um701lrv there ya go

Edited by celine_93, 10 January 2011 - 10:27 AM.

[Javito]

celine_93, on Jan 10 2011, 05:15 PM, said:

I've got TTWII in dts format, I might upload it for you guys to tell the difference. I've listened with my shitty speakers and already I can hear some instruments clearer than the original audio. bear with me.

EDIT: http://www.mediafire...6zsy893um701lrv there ya go

Yeah that's similar to what you can hear in the DVD 5.1 mix, but imagine that with a CD that has been specifically designed to be listened, not watched (like a videoclip), with sound coming from 5 speakers, 2 of them destined only for new channels of sound not heard in the CD version

[Bellamy]

Technically Bluray audio track>SACD>DVD-Audio>DVD audio track>CD

When it comes to specs, the bluray format is technically superior. Short explaination. The SACD format has a dynamic range of 120db from 20hz-20khz over 6 channels. That is 20bit performance. It has a frequency response of up to 100khz which implies a sample rate of 50khz, but most players limit the upper frequency response to 80-90khz. This would be based on the performance values of PCM audio. The Bluray format is capable of full 24bit 192khz performance over 8 channels.

[Javito]

Bellamy, on Jan 10 2011, 07:50 PM, said:

Technically Bluray audio track>SACD>DVD-Audio>DVD audio track>CD

When it comes to specs, the bluray format is technically superior. Short explaination. The SACD format has a dynamic range of 120db from 20hz-20khz over 6 channels. That is 20bit performance. It has a frequency response of up to 100khz which implies a sample rate of 50khz, but most players limit the upper frequency response to 80-90khz. This would be based on the performance values of PCM audio. The Bluray format is capable of full 24bit 192khz performance over 8 channels.

8 channels? omg I did know about 7.1 channels but I have not seen many equipments available yet... Can you imagine Céline concerts or albums in 7.1 ?   

And what about that Complete Best released in something called "Blu-spec" format?



So there are plenty formats with great audio quality, but unfortunately, thanks to piracy, they only appeal to a minority of people They're not cheap either, but thanks to the crisis in the music industry and the increasing lack of interest for music in physical format, these things are condemned to extinction I think

[Bellamy]

Javito, on Jan 11 2011, 03:06 AM, said:

8 channels? omg I did know about 7.1 channels but I have not seen many equipments available yet... Can you imagine Céline concerts or albums in 7.1 ?   

And what about that Complete Best released in something called "Blu-spec" format?



So there are plenty formats with great audio quality, but unfortunately, thanks to piracy, they only appeal to a minority of people They're not cheap either, but thanks to the crisis in the music industry and the increasing lack of interest for music in physical format, these things are condemned to extinction I think

Most BD equipments are made for 7.1 channels. Few music BD are released in7.1 format, but many movies are. And many amplifiers can turn 5.1 format audio into 7.1.

"Blu-spec" is just an enhanced CD format, means better audio quality than normal CD when you play it by Hi-Fi CD players. It's just like HDCD, XRCD... They are meant to improve CD quality while remain compatible to all CD players.

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Blu-spec_CD

Those format are meant for Hi-Fi. So the equipments are expensive, of course they can't be very popular.

[Javito]

Bellamy, on Jan 10 2011, 08:16 PM, said:

"Blu-spec" is just an enhanced CD format, means better audio quality than normal CD when you play it by Hi-Fi CD players. It's just like HDCD, XRCD... They are meant to improve CD quality while remain compatible to all CD players.

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Blu-spec_CD

Those format are meant for Hi-Fi. So the equipments are expensive, of course they can't be very popular.

I see, then it must be something similar to those "SHM-CD's" (Super High Material CD) that are popular in Japan too!

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The high quality SHM-CD (Super High Material CD) format features enhanced audio quality through the use of a special polycarbonate plastic. Using a process developed by JVC and Universal Music Japan discovered through the joint companies' research into LCD display manufacturing, SHM-CDs feature improved transparency on the data side of the disc, allowing for more accurate reading of CD data by the CD player laser head. SHM-CD format CDs are fully compatible with standard CD players.

I've seen them released in 2009 by Enya, and purchased 2 of them and the quality was positively improved