Gaza calls you

[Shirin]

She didn't even watch the video. (I didn't believe she would...)

They talk about ignorance and no mercy...

unbelievable.

 

Adi, Gal - we know the truth. They are so blind, so brain washed.

We know we are right, and we will keep supporting our country, we deserve to have normal life,

and yes, we should kill the crazy sick Islamic terrorists.

 

 

Are you sure that I haven't watched the video??? Are you sure??? I think you're reasoning with a lot of prejudice...

 

But i Remain into my ideas... Palestine has the same rights of Israel, you can't live with an agreement peace and at the same time besiege Palestine. That's what you call peace, but it isn't. And you know it so well.

Also during the agreement you've killed 8 Palestinians and none has said nothing! Now everyday you're killing a lot of Palestians and the total of this latest 8 days is: 423 Palestinian killed - 4 Israelians killed.

 

You have more more potent weapons, so if a Palestinians missil do what are you lamenting, you've just to imagine what your weapons are doing in Gaza.

[ahmed]

i will not waste my time to answer and reply a crazy ideas like saying that hamass is a terrorist ,that's not true because they are protecting our dear palestiniens people and everybody knows who's the real terrorist.

 

and don't forget that this topic is made to ask for help and not for explications and opinions

so stop please if you don't have something to offers or to give to palestiniens people.ok

[ahmed]

She didn't even watch the video. (I didn't believe she would...)

They talk about ignorance and no mercy...

unbelievable.

 

Adi, Gal - we know the truth. They are so blind, so brain washed.

We know we are right, and we will keep supporting our country, we deserve to have normal life,

and yes, we should kill the crazy sick Islamic terrorists.

 

STOP

WE ARE NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT RELIGION

BECAUSE THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT PLACE TO TALK ABOUT IT

 

i think that we need a "sorry" from you

and i'm asking you to not post pics because if i want i can post 1000000 where you can see more and more horrible ones from palestiniens people.

 

i think Moderators should visit this

[Mrs.Goldman]

oh but you did post pics... in your first post!

 

and she said nothing about religion... the Hamas ARE a terrorist group and they are a foundamental islamic group. they are defined by religion because they don't do this for the christian or jews but only for their brothers muslims. she said nothing about her agreement or disagreement with the religion. stop making things more than they are.

 

if you don't agree with what we a say, argue about it, that's what a discussion board is for..

 

don't try and call moderators up, be cause you can't stand by your words for more arguments.

[shikma]

STOP

WE ARE NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT RELIGION

BECAUSE THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT PLACE TO TALK ABOUT IT

 

i think that we need a "sorry" from you

and i'm asking you to not post pics because if i want i can post 1000000 where you can see more and more horrible ones

 

I won't apologize for anyhting I said, I did not say anything wrong.

That's the reality.

 

you started with the pictures, so how dare you telling me not to post them?

Why? you don't want people to see whats REALLY going on in here?

[lost84]

Dear Shirin;

Don't disturbe your self to explaine to them what they will never understand! They still young and they're just a copy of there parents!! No mercy, No mercy, No mercy, that's what they learn at an early age!!!

we know the truth, God knows that and even it's so horrible to see these crimes, we know also that the day will come, yes it will come although them and there satanic thoughts, so wait and see, even they'll kill 1000, 2000, 3000 palastinien will stay there such a rock!

Remeber, talking to God is more efficient than talking to closed minds!

 

 

 

I'm getting soooo sick of people like you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

One thing my parents told me, that you always need two for a fight!!!!! So you very ignorant person you can't blame only one!!!! This time the war happened because of the stupid and dangerous Hammas....!!!!! And actually I'm not so much younger than you!!!!!!

[Galuush]

You can not tell us not to experse ourselves. We can't see those things and say nothing!

[lost84]

She didn't even watch the video. (I didn't believe she would...)

They talk about ignorance and no mercy...

unbelievable.

 

Adi, Gal - we know the truth. They are so blind, so brain washed.

We know we are right, and we will keep supporting our country, we deserve to have normal life,

and yes, we should kill the crazy sick Islamic terrorists.

 

STOP

WE ARE NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT RELIGION

BECAUSE THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT PLACE TO TALK ABOUT IT

 

i think that we need a "sorry" from you

and i'm asking you to not post pics because if i want i can post 1000000 where you can see more and more horrible ones from palestiniens people.

 

i think Moderators should visit this

 

 

 

But you have to say that it is interesting that usually Islamic terrorist making terror everywhere in the world like in New York, London, Madrid and in Israel...... So I don't think someone has to say sorry....

[Linn92]

I'm so sad these days because of them... I also hope Celine will help them as she did back in 2005

[Linn92]

She didn't even watch the video. (I didn't believe she would...)

They talk about ignorance and no mercy...

unbelievable.

 

Adi, Gal - we know the truth. They are so blind, so brain washed.

We know we are right, and we will keep supporting our country, we deserve to have normal life,

and yes, we should kill the crazy sick Islamic terrorists.

 

STOP

WE ARE NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT RELIGION

BECAUSE THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT PLACE TO TALK ABOUT IT

 

i think that we need a "sorry" from you

and i'm asking you to not post pics because if i want i can post 1000000 where you can see more and more horrible ones from palestiniens people.

 

i think Moderators should visit this

 

 

 

But you have to say that it is interesting that usually Islamic terrorist making terror everywhere in the world like in New York, London, Madrid and in Israel...... So I don't think someone has to say sorry....

 

 

THERE R ALWAYS TWO SIDES!!! SO STOP JUDGING.. What we know is that we have an opinion, but it doesn't mean that they're always right.

[Galuush]

To be honest- with all the respact I have to Celine, I think it is better to leave her out of this conversetion. Edited January 4, 2009 at 07:53 PM by Galuush

[lost84]

To be honest- with all the respact I have to Celine, I think it is better to leave her out of this conversetion.

 

 

You are right!!!

[Nmj]

I think people who said all muslims are terroists should apologize...they are some great muslims...There are JEW terrorists too and some good jew people I Think LOST84. Mrs.Goldman, Galush, and Shikima need to apologize for saying that all muslims are bad...thats wrong..you owe to us Good muslims ..Please

[ZoraSourit]

To be fair, I believe that some things said in here went really far and that shouldn't be allowed. And yes, everyone that made false acusations should apologize. A person's character isn't decided or defined by one's religion, race, sex or colour.

 

Nmj, I don't believe they meant to hurt you or offend you or other muslims in anyway, the conversation just went to far, but if you do feel like that, you have my sympathy and apologies.

[Ted]

I think people who said all muslims are terroists should apologize...they are some great muslims...There are JEW terrorists too and some good jew people I Think LOST84. Mrs.Goldman, Galush, and Shikima need to apologize for saying that all muslims are bad...thats wrong..you owe to us Good muslims ..Please

 

They said "Islamic terrorists" not muslims.

Edited January 5, 2009 at 12:26 AM by Ted

[Mrs.Goldman]

exactly! we said islamic terroristrs, which they are.

 

BTW, There are many arabs (both christian and muslim) that live inside the territory of Israel. and well obv iously I don't know all of them and but there are many muslim arabs in my city and they have always been nice to me, not only that but some of them (restaurant owners) volunteered to bring food for our troops, 2 years ago when we had a war with Lebanon. they were very much on our side and they suffered their missiles just like everyone else (and had great losses in my city when two missiles hit one of their neighbourhoods and killied about 18 people(!!) and I saw someone yesterday who is an Israeli-palestinian (meaning, a palestinian who was born in Israel and so he's an israeli citizen) and he has very strong political views and was all against his "friends" in gaza...

 

if you think by any chance that my opinions are extreme, you should have heard him...

 

My point is, that you should all stop think we have anything against muslim people because we obviously don't. only against those who are trying to kill us!

if you could really see how it's like, you would have seen that even the "muslims" that live here, are against them and support the army more than all the jews altogether!

[lost84]

I think people who said all muslims are terroists should apologize...they are some great muslims...There are JEW terrorists too and some good jew people I Think LOST84. Mrs.Goldman, Galush, and Shikima need to apologize for saying that all muslims are bad...thats wrong..you owe to us Good muslims ..Please

 

 

None of us sad all muslims are bad!!!! So please when you read these comments you should pay attention to it...

[shikma]

I'm not going to apologize, I said nothing wrong.

Show me where I wrote that all muslims are bad people or terrorsits? That is so not true. Read carefuly.

You can't find it, becuase I didn't write it. In fact, I have muslims friends.

The reality is that the HAMAS and the other organizations that are threatening Israel are fanatic Islamic terrorists.

By the way, I don't think that any fanatic groups should be allowed to act in terror (muslims, jews or whatever).

 

[Mrs.Goldman]

This is what I told you earlier:

 

[lost84]

This is what I told you earlier:

 

 

 

Did they hide weapons in a mosque???

 

If yes how primitive and bad can people be.....

[ahmed]

Did they hide weapons in a mosque???

 

of course not that's only what israel said to find a raison of what they do

remember when iraq was attacked.us said that there's a dangerous missils and .... hidden there and after 3 years boch said that it was a wrong information and there was nothing in iraq

 

by the way i just noticed by my IP detector that mrs.goldman and shikima have the some address IP so mrs.goldman and shikima are the some person with two account lol.

[ahmed]

THERE R ALWAYS TWO SIDES!!! SO STOP JUDGING.. What we know is that we have an opinion, but it doesn't mean that they're always right.

 

I agree with you that's why the conversation went so so far

 

so i'm asking everybody to stop this because that's not what i want when i created the topic

what i wanted is to ask people to donate something for Gaza and some members did not understand the subject of this topic and went to explain their points of view

[lost84]

THERE R ALWAYS TWO SIDES!!! SO STOP JUDGING.. What we know is that we have an opinion, but it doesn't mean that they're always right.

 

I agree with you that's why the conversation went so so far

 

so i'm asking everybody to stop this because that's not what i want when i created the topic

what i wanted is to ask people to donate something for Gaza and some members did not understand the subject of this topic and went to explain their points of view

 

 

You are right... But you wrote more than only that!!! So you have to give chances to other people to explain there opinion...

 

And I can't and even if I could I would never donate something to Gaza as long as Hamas is on power!!

[shikma]

me and Mr. Goldman are not the same person, we both live in Israel. what are you trying to do??

You should check your IP detector, or stop lying.

 

and yes, they did hide weapons in a mosque. That is my point! They say Israel kills innocent people, but guess what? They hide their weapons everywhere, they don't care even for their own people!!! They actually lunch their missiles from where people live. Israel don't just bombs wherever they "feels like", they bombs places that have weapons and missiles.

They will do whatever they can to kill Israelis. This is exactly what I meant by saying "crazy fanatic terrorists", they don't care about anything, except to make sure Israel will vanish. (and they aren't going to succeed).

[Mrs.Goldman]

First of all.. Shikma and I are NOT the same person! you have a really crappy IP detector...

 

we live in the same country but that's pretty much it.

 

as for the mosque thing, yes it is hidden there. as you can see, the first explosion was caused by the israeli air force and then there are 2 more explosions that are caused by the weapons inside that is exploding because of the first bombing. so there's the proof... it's not that Israel just said that it's like this.. there's a reason why they shot it!

[Bellamy]

by the way i just noticed by my IP detector that mrs.goldman and shikima have the some address IP so mrs.goldman and shikima are the some person with two account lol.

Liar. Get rid of your useless IP detector, or stop lying. Only admins and mods can see IP on the forum. I can confirm they have very different IP, not even in the same IP range, not even from the same city, same ISP. You are the one should be warned for making false statement about other members.

[lost84]

by the way i just noticed by my IP detector that mrs.goldman and shikima have the some address IP so mrs.goldman and shikima are the some person with two account lol.

 

 

 

You were asking for donations and now you are lying!!!! This is really embarrassing.....

[darrylducanada]

Did they hide weapons in a mosque???

 

of course not that's only what israel said to find a raison of what they do

remember when iraq was attacked.us said that there's a dangerous missils and .... hidden there and after 3 years boch said that it was a wrong information and there was nothing in iraq

 

by the way i just noticed by my IP detector that mrs.goldman and shikima have the some address IP so mrs.goldman and shikima are the some person with two account lol.

 

First, a bit of background on me:

 

1) I'm from Canada.

2) I fly around the world, teaching for Intel Corporation as a specialist. I teach companies like Cisco, Alcatel-Lucent and all other major networking companies how to do super special things better in networking. I've been doing that since December 1999. I've even been to Netanya to do this work.

 

Now, even *if* you had site admin access, and were able to see the raw IP of the posts, you can still be fooled by duplicate ips. First and foremost, any school or library or workplace could show thousands of computers as having the same duplicate IP to the public side of the internet. It's called a router, like the dlink/linksys/etc home routers. If you had 4 computers in your house, they would all have the same ip to the internet. Same with a school that has 1 router for 100+ computers. Very common.

 

Non admins can't see the posters ip unless they hacked into the website server. For file transfers using mirc/pirch/yahoo/msn, you dont get a real ip either. you get a server ip as the 'source' for the transfer. There is 1 way, using an irc transfer, that you could see the ip directly- using DCC file transfers. That does create a direct connection between the router on your side to the router of the other person. However, again because of what I said above, if they are at a business, school, library, shopping mall etc, you wouldn't see the IP of their computer.

 

Another issue is open proxies. That gives you the ability to bounce every single packet from your computer through 3rd party computer to the destination. The 3rd party computer or 'hop' would be what shows up as the IP. There are thousands of open proxies. Some are notoriously hacker ones, and are often on blacklists. I could easily use an open proxy, or BNC connection to show you a fake IP and even mask such as: @=LYyvil.the.f***.up.n.piss-off.org. Sorry for the language, but that's actually real. LOL.

 

I took the time to explain all this because you simply do not understand enough to make such a statement. People that run websites alot would not make that mistake, and there are enough teenage geeks around that do know these things that all you do is make yourself seem untrustworthy. That hurts not only your statement on the IPs, but anything else that requires us believing you.

 

Anyone got a cookie? I'm starving...

 

[Bellamy]

Darrylducanada, welcome to the forum. Very well explained. Thanks.

[Linn92]

Did they hide weapons in a mosque???

 

of course not that's only what israel said to find a raison of what they do

remember when iraq was attacked.us said that there's a dangerous missils and .... hidden there and after 3 years boch said that it was a wrong information and there was nothing in iraq

 

by the way i just noticed by my IP detector that mrs.goldman and shikima have the some address IP so mrs.goldman and shikima are the some person with two account lol.

 

First, a bit of background on me:

 

1) I'm from Canada.

2) I fly around the world, teaching for Intel Corporation as a specialist. I teach companies like Cisco, Alcatel-Lucent and all other major networking companies how to do super special things better in networking. I've been doing that since December 1999. I've even been to Netanya to do this work.

 

Now, even *if* you had site admin access, and were able to see the raw IP of the posts, you can still be fooled by duplicate ips. First and foremost, any school or library or workplace could show thousands of computers as having the same duplicate IP to the public side of the internet. It's called a router, like the dlink/linksys/etc home routers. If you had 4 computers in your house, they would all have the same ip to the internet. Same with a school that has 1 router for 100+ computers. Very common.

 

Non admins can't see the posters ip unless they hacked into the website server. For file transfers using mirc/pirch/yahoo/msn, you dont get a real ip either. you get a server ip as the 'source' for the transfer. There is 1 way, using an irc transfer, that you could see the ip directly- using DCC file transfers. That does create a direct connection between the router on your side to the router of the other person. However, again because of what I said above, if they are at a business, school, library, shopping mall etc, you wouldn't see the IP of their computer.

 

Another issue is open proxies. That gives you the ability to bounce every single packet from your computer through 3rd party computer to the destination. The 3rd party computer or 'hop' would be what shows up as the IP. There are thousands of open proxies. Some are notoriously hacker ones, and are often on blacklists. I could easily use an open proxy, or BNC connection to show you a fake IP and even mask such as: @=LYyvil.the.f***.up.n.piss-off.org. Sorry for the language, but that's actually real. LOL.

 

I took the time to explain all this because you simply do not understand enough to make such a statement. People that run websites alot would not make that mistake, and there are enough teenage geeks around that do know these things that all you do is make yourself seem untrustworthy. That hurts not only your statement on the IPs, but anything else that requires us believing you.

 

Anyone got a cookie? I'm starving...

 

 

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