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Did Celine need a voice trainer during her early era(1990-1992)?


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I just doubt if Celine had to be trained how to sing, to belt out and to read a note. :blink:
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Are you kiddin' ?

 

Celine always took voice training and lessons...

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no, she can obviously just sing naturally haha but she took lessons in how to use her voice properly after the incident in 1990?? i think where she completely lost her voice on stage. after that shes been mega careful about her voice.
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This doesn't deserve a response. Her career in that era shows that a trainer is, and was not necessary.

"...It's the circle of life. You gotta look forward. Two days during the year there's nothing you can do about: yesterday and tomorrow. Today is a great day." - Celine Dion, People.

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in my story my dream she said she had a singing trainer befor 90s,but after tthat she had trainers for how to control and take care of her voice I think.

also jj goldman trained her too :P cause he thought she sang sometimes very high

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That's a hands down YES.

 

Listen to how much she improved when she learned how to sing correctly.

As Rene said, they could see the results----and we certainly did.

 

Sure, she sang better than anyone before that----but after she's stil unstopable

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- Céline Dion, 1990

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celine herself said that because of the warmups/exercises and other efforts in taking care of her voice as prescribed by those doctors/trainers, she herself could see a vast improvement in her voice later on.

 

jjg initially criticized her for using too many melismas and runs/ornamentations or whatnot

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I just doubt if Celine had to be trained how to sing, to belt out and to read a note. :blink:

 

her early era isn't 90-92... it's 81-86 :whistling:

 

This doesn't deserve a response. Her career in that era shows that a trainer is, and was not necessary.

 

well that's just stupid! of course it's necessary! her singing beautiful naturally, doesn't mean she was trained to do it BIG, like full concerts and stuff! Having a voice is one thing, learning how to control it is another :wink:

 

At the early age of her carreer, she already took singing lessons at a young stage. It's there in the Celine biography! Céline said she didn't like to go, because the woman who was giving lessons was very hard on her, but in the end she was very thankful of everything that she learned Céline! (if I remember correctly)

 

That's a hands down YES.

 

Listen to how much she improved when she learned how to sing correctly.

As Rene said, they could see the results----and we certainly did.

 

Sure, she sang better than anyone before that----but after she's stil unstopable

 

yeah I don't think Céline did a lot of vocal coaching after she learned english, but after she lost her voice on the Incognito (or Unison not sure) tour, she knew she had to take care of her voice and not abuse it night after night! (probably when the lipsyncing began :doh: :laugh: ), but yeah from then on she started the vocal training and the silent days.... I think albums The Colour Of My Love to Falling into You show the ultimate result of that training! :in_love:


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I don't see anything wrong with taking singing lessons.
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in my story my dream she said she had a singing trainer befor 90s,but after tthat she had trainers for how to control and take care of her voice I think.

also jj goldman trained her too :P cause he thought she sang sometimes very high

 

 

I agree :thumbsup2:

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i think she badly need to visit her trainor now. she sounds so nasal in her recent performances. Edited by dhena
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Yes Yes and YES
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Celine could be sounding nasal because she has a virus or something. However doesn't the French accent lend itself to being a bit nasal anyway? (correct me if I am wrong)
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i think she badly need to visit her trainor now. she sounds so nasal in her recent performances.

 

if you think Celine needs to see her vocal coach now, Rihanna is in a worse condition. Celine has always been nasal anyways. its just that on some days you hear it clearer than others

 

replying to the thread topic: if you've read Celine's biographies, you would know she actually improved herself AFTER taking vocal lessons

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im sure she had a vocal coach but now doesnt she just have doctors and stuff to help her take care of her voice as opposed to training it?? i might be wrong!
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It's a fact that she had vocal training after she lost her voice onstage. Celine has an amazong voice, no doubt, but few people actually have the ability to sing with the correct technique when they are born.
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I think her technique has changed and it shows to me in her voice. She definitely doesn't focus as much as she should to stop the nasal sound from coming out. She naturally has it in her voice, but I think needs to sing with a certain technique in order for her to minimize it, and since Vegas she's become lazy about it. She also tends to belt from her throat, which I've heard is quite unhealthy for a voice. I've noticed she's gradually getter more and more nasal throughout the course of the tour, just like she did in Vegas. By the time the DVD is filmed we will have missed her rested voice as it was in the beginning of the tour.
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Very bad! :(
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I think her technique has changed and it shows to me in her voice. She definitely doesn't focus as much as she should to stop the nasal sound from coming out. She naturally has it in her voice, but I think needs to sing with a certain technique in order for her to minimize it, and since Vegas she's become lazy about it. She also tends to belt from her throat, which I've heard is quite unhealthy for a voice. I've noticed she's gradually getter more and more nasal throughout the course of the tour, just like she did in Vegas. By the time the DVD is filmed we will have missed her rested voice as it was in the beginning of the tour.

I think though that her nasality helps her endurance for shows requiring her to sing so many songs.

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CeLine hasn't had a rested voice in a long time if you ask me. Not that you would ask me. Anyway, she's had vocal coaches of course. It's clar, as it's been already mentioned, that she does not have a coach now. Maybe she should. She's swapped technique for passion, which is great; but I just wish we could have both, so that she'd improve in all fronts.
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Could somebody please give me an example of a song where she is 'nasally?'

 

I never thought she was particularly nasally, Unless I have the meaning mixed up with something else?? :blushing1:

 

A particularly 'nasally' song would be appreciated, just so I could try and find out if I have noticed it, and if not, if I like it!

 

Thanks!! :bye1:

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Could somebody please give me an example of a song where she is 'nasally?'

 

Most of the performances during her Vegas show... I believe.

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An example of nasal would be I'm Alive from the A New Day cd. It's horribly nasal. And Seduces Me is incredibly nasal as well. A Song For You is extremely nasal as well, and a bit throaty mixed in. When she's nasal it sounds like she's plugging her nose to sing.
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An example of nasal would be I'm Alive from the A New Day cd. It's horribly nasal. And Seduces Me is incredibly nasal as well. A Song For You is extremely nasal as well, and a bit throaty mixed in. When she's nasal it sounds like she's plugging her nose to sing.

 

 

Thanks, But I always thought of it to be more of a whisper then being 'nasally', I would have said it was in the throat, not the nose. I have always looked at it like that lol. I dont think A song for you is particularly 'nasally' or whatever we're calling it! lol!

 

I dont dislike it, either!

 

I dont understand why someone would it's Celine's way of singing and I think it's really nice and relaxing!

 

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She has her summer break coming up in a couple of weeks before the tour goes to the US so maybe if they record one of the early American or Canadian shows then at least she'll have had a month to rest her voice.
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I dont think A song for you is particularly 'nasally' or whatever we're calling it! lol!

Listen again at 1:55 onwards. It sounds like she has a clothes peg on her nose. If you notice, she's actually saying "sing-ging" which is how you sound when your nose is blocked with a cold or flu. That is the nasal tone that people are talking about. It's not that she was sick when she was recording the song, it's a controllable technique that singers train to avoid but Celine sometimes let's it creep back into her voice.

 

But one of my most favourite Celine quotes says "Maybe I don't sing as technically good today, but I surely sing...much better" and it reminds us that when she's singing from the heart then it makes all these technical slipups totally unimportant.

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I've noticed she's gradually getter more and more nasal throughout the course of the tour, just like she did in Vegas. By the time the DVD is filmed we will have missed her rested voice as it was in the beginning of the tour.

 

 

really? i think she sounds SO much better on tour than in vegas. except when she's lipping to vegas tracks <_< i hope by teh time she reaches US/canada she actually performs live the lipped vegas tracks. because seriously it's one thing to sing them on tour but it's another to release a tour dvd with the exact same sound as the previously released vegas dvd. her ppl should be smarter than that

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I think she's definitely had a vocal coach or something, to be able to sustain her range all through the Vegas era, recording albums every year in the 90s, and touring the world.
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I think her technique has changed and it shows to me in her voice. She definitely doesn't focus as much as she should to stop the nasal sound from coming out. She naturally has it in her voice, but I think needs to sing with a certain technique in order for her to minimize it, and since Vegas she's become lazy about it. She also tends to belt from her throat, which I've heard is quite unhealthy for a voice. I've noticed she's gradually getter more and more nasal throughout the course of the tour, just like she did in Vegas. By the time the DVD is filmed we will have missed her rested voice as it was in the beginning of the tour.

 

 

i so agree, being french shes going to be naturally nasel and you can tell with these past vegas years when shes not working as hard on her training that it comes through i think. These days not having the flexibility in her voice makes it sound more forced and she has to make any sound she can to get the note where as before she could hit the note and decide how it sounded coz she had the ability in her voice to control the sound i think.

 

The vegas cd was the worst example of that tho! I hate listening to it because of the nasel awful screechyness. Its actually got alot better again thank god.

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I dont think A song for you is particularly 'nasally' or whatever we're calling it! lol!

Listen again at 1:55 onwards. It sounds like she has a clothes peg on her nose. If you notice, she's actually saying "sing-ging" which is how you sound when your nose is blocked with a cold or flu. That is the nasal tone that people are talking about. It's not that she was sick when she was recording the song, it's a controllable technique that singers train to avoid but Celine sometimes let's it creep back into her voice.

 

But one of my most favourite Celine quotes says "Maybe I don't sing as technically good today, but I surely sing...much better" and it reminds us that when she's singing from the heart then it makes all these technical slipups totally unimportant.

 

 

 

haha yeh,

 

another one in the TC tour is in taking chances shes like "never knowing eeeeef thiiiirs soliiiiid..." haha all mumbled up together and "andrneeeth yr skyyyyn" but sometimes it sounds fine.

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