Vegas Celine vs. Tour (The "REAL") Celine

[karatedude317]

I've been watching the youtube clips of various tour performances and I"m noticing a HUGE difference in the Celine that we are seeing on the tour, and the Celine we saw and heard in Vegas.

 

Case in point: Her voice! In Vegas she sounded GREAT, but her voice had a different quality to it. I can't describe it, it wasn't nasal, but it was just different. It still gave me the chills, and she still sounded AWESOME, but again, different. When I see her clips from the tour, her voice has this clarity and pureness to it where it sounds like it was taken right off of the CD's. Taking Chances sounds the best live it's ever sounded, All By Myself sounds even better than the CD (even the HIGH note), and not to mention TPOL, MHWGO, and others. She hits those notes in such a way that you would think you had the CD on. For some reason in Vegas, as great as she sounded, there was something about the way she sang there that doesn't compare to how she is singing now. Even when she talks to the audience, she talks differently. In Vegas she seemed to talk more dramatically, long pauses and breathing heavy when she spoke. Now she talks as if she was having a regular conversation with the people who are watching her.

 

Another Point: Her moves! She seems so free when she's on the stage now. Her moves now are AWESOME, and she definitely is showing off what makes her so hot at 40! It's as if she's being herself more, and doing what comes naturally.

 

Last Point: Her looks! She looks better than EVER. I can't even tell you what it is, but the whole package is just (minus the red pants with the suspenders ) In Vegas especially on the DVD, she had this look to her that just didn't really look like her for some reason. Can't put my finger on it, she obviously had makeup on, but something about how she looked just really didn't quite look like her. She didn't look like that at any other time other than when she was in Vegas. Also when she sang she made some weird faces, which she doesn't make on tour.

 

In conclusion: The Celine we see now on the tour is more like the "real" Celine we have always seen, where the Vegas Celine seemed at times almost like a different person, a person we ONLY saw in Vegas, it was as if when she stepped off the Vegas stage she sounded and looked like the Celine we've seen everywhere else.

 

This is probably a weird topic, but I just thought I'd share my observations and see if anyone else is nuts like me.

[AllCeline]

There's definitely a difference between the two performances!! In Vegas, Celine had this sort of unnatural high-pitched sound in some songs (it's VERY noticeable when she performed songs like IA). I'd probably even say it WAS nasal at some points. It sounded okay, but still sounded odd. The timing on some of the songs were just kind of odd too.

 

As for Celine being dramatic in some speeches, it was totally evident. Some of them even seemed rehearse. But then again, seeing as it was a nightly performance which was always the same, it probably was. Celine probably wasn't given the freedom to be her true self every night, seeing as it was the same show every night. Everything was all pre-determined and because there was more than likely a set standard for the show, there's no doubt that a lot of it was just a part of the show, and possibly not Celine's true feelings or emotions every night. Not to say that she's being, "fake." She's not. But taking into consideration the type of show AND was, it makes sense.

 

Everything was on key, and EXACTLY on time (that's clear in the DVD). With such a tight rope around everything, there's extremely little room for freedom in a show like AND. Everything MUST go as planned; from the singing, to the dancing, to the moves. Even Celine's speaches had to be on time, on key, all 100% on the ball, as it was planned. I can see how AND could have been somewhat of a styphling project.

 

But with the tour, it's expected to always be different. Different counties, different people, different setups. Never the same. Celine has that freedom to do what she will. You've got a huge point and totally right abou the differences. Anyone can notice them.

 

PS: The red pants with the suspenders MUST GO!!

Edited March 24, 2008 at 02:18 AM by AllCeline

[celinefanonline]

so we have a Vegas Celine and the tour Celine!!

 

and yes for AND Celine almost always said the same thing night after night.....

and her performance routine it's almost the same everynight for each song..

 

for the tour yes some performance rouitne is the same but not every time though.. and she's more free so yeah

[celinerific]

She's fabulous either way.

[LVCeline]

Oh there's absolutely no question there's a huge difference! You notice her changing up the songs on tour now, like ABM she's adding some great high notes and playing with her voice more on songs. They don't sound as rehearsed and robotic as they did in Vegas! I'm so thrilled about it! Her quality of voice is also a lot better it seems! She nailing all the high notes! I love it! It's like she's not afraid to hit a high note like she tended to be in the colliseum. The high note in Alone sounds FANTASTIC on tour, why didn't she sing it like that on all those appearances?

[Angel, You thrill me]

Unfortunately i couldn't wait to actually see her so i had to take a peek on youtube, and yes she sounds amazing, when i first saw the performance of all by myself i got light headed . THE OLD CELINE IS BACK and better than ever.

[AllCeline]

They don't sound as rehearsed and robotic as they did in Vegas!

 

Indeed, they don't.

Edited March 24, 2008 at 10:12 AM by AllCeline

[Attendais]

But the cast is doing their best to make the performance as much similar to LV show as it's only possible.

 

Celine is more sexy though

[beautyroses]

i think in new day she was a little bit under control because of timming,but i think in tours it is different.

and also i think repeating the same show every night made celine that way in vegas.

[Black Kitten]

the only difference i noticed is that she looks a lot better on the tour than the vegas show. she looks more relaxed. talking about the voice, it still sounds nasal, as EVER.

[cmcdaori]

She's fabulous either way.

 

 

 

I say that too...let her do it on her own way...she is older,we should think about that..she cant be singing and jumping on the stage all the time..LETS' GO GIRL!!!

[MrTim212]

"All By Myself" was killer and not lipped from what I can tell.... It was way too raw of a performance as was "Think Twice."

 

I just have my fingers crossed that she'll do "Fade Away" and "My Love" here in NY..... I know those are two of the songs that she's been alternating between shows.....

[roubaix]

In Las Vegas she definitely had timing issues as mentioned before. Being a "production" she certainly had less freedom to do much with the songs or to ad-lib much with the audience.

 

I loved AND and would go every month for the rest of my life if she was still there - that said, being "on tour" is a lot of fun because for her, the band and the fans this is something new.

 

I'll see her in November, I can't wait!

 

[karatedude317]

"All By Myself" was killer and not lipped from what I can tell.... It was way too raw of a performance as was "Think Twice."

 

I just have my fingers crossed that she'll do "Fade Away" and "My Love" here in NY..... I know those are two of the songs that she's been alternating between shows.....

 

She better do FAde Away at Nassau Coliseum, and I hope Fade Away becomes a single at some point even if it's not the next single.

[Terre]

There's definitely a huge difference! Céline sounds so much better on tour and she looks absolutely stunning in every concert!

[roubaix]

There's definitely a huge difference! Céline sounds so much better on tour and she looks absolutely stunning in every concert!

 

After Las Vegas being out on the road is very exciting for her and I'm sure it is reflected in her performances and you are correct, she does look stunning..........all the time!

 

[Dionesque]

Back to the topic, hearing performances like "Think Twice", "My Love", "That's the woman in me" and some others... I deffinitely have to say I love, love, love how Céline sounds now!!! :wub:

[celinefanlux]

I also noticed the difference and it is a huge one.

In Vegas she sounded like a superstar who has lost her voice.

Then for the promotion of Taking Chances, she still didn't sound really good, and most of it was lip-synched, especially in Europe.

But now as her tou has started she sounds great again, it is the Celine I love again.

I think she was maybe tired in Vegas, I don't know.

I'm happy.

[AllCeline]

She better do FAde Away at Nassau Coliseum, and I hope Fade Away becomes a single at some point even if it's not the next single.

 

Psh... she better do it in Ft. Lauderdale!! But, yeah, FA must be the next singles!!

[xo1hrt4celineox]

I have noticed the difference and am totally loving this "new" Celine (more like a return of the "old" Celine) versus what I've come to call the "Vegas bot" I CAN'T WAIT TO GO THE CONCERT!!

[stevethefan]

She may have more freedom on this tour compared to LV which may be why people think she sounds different. The other thing they may be contributing to the change is that she is obviously not performing in the same venue night after night. Each venue has a different sound, which can be good and bad. In LV everything was designed specifically for great sound, lighting, etc. and nothing had to be moved. On tour they are constantly having to build/rebuild and move everything. I'm sure they they have spent a lot of money on her sound on tour but it's hard to recreate perfect sound when you are changing buildings all of the time.

[billythebrit]

Hey

 

I think this is a great topic.

 

I think there is a big difference between the Vegas Celine and the current Celine - for the simple reason that the Vegas Celine was an almost retired pop star. Out in a US back water, playing to hot dog eating tourists, not really making new music, doing the shame show night after night after night, in a huge show that didn't really break new ground, just made a lot of money. In a city in the middle of a desert, drying out the voice, leading to lipped performances. Same songs, same dance routines, same set, same chit chat with the crowd. No wonder you guys think she was less vibrant. A New Day? Nothing new about doing it 700 times.

 

Cut to the new Celine. Doing what an international pop star should do. Play on the international scene. Instead of being miles away playing in a hotel in a tacky, low culture hell hole of a tourist destination called Vegas, she's back in the cities that matter. London. Paris. New York. Sydney. Tokyo. Dublin. Beijing.

 

Celine promised fans a Vegas show so spectacular and huge that it couldn't travel. The fans would have to come to her. But am I the only Celine fan that thinks the clips of the tour on youtube of her Tokyo leg, with huge screens, in the round, the lights, the atmosphere, the screaming fans, looks much more spectacular than the flying pianos of Vegas ever did? The grand entrance on the tour looks amazing. Kind of regret watching it on youtube as I've now ruined the surprise for myself, but that IS an entrance. The screaming fans, the screens, the fast paced editing of Celine clips through the years, the bass of a dance mix of I Drove All Night, the screens raising to reveal our superstar goddess. Watch the DVD of A New Day... she makes a quiet entrance and receives a warm welcome of subdued applause. You can't compare an arena to a theatre, which is all the Collisseum is.

 

I love the new Celine. She's excited again. She's back in the game. And more importantly, she's got new material. Taking Chances is packed with great new music that I can't wait to see performed on stage. Her last full studio album in English was years ago - One Heart, released as A New Day started. She's back making music. Which is what a pop star should be doing.

 

Regarding the comments of Celine sounding more nasal these days...I know this is going to go down like a lead balloon, but I do think this has a lot to do with the work she's had done. Don't want to start a big debate on here, and surgery doesn't make you a bad person, but she has had a lot fixed. I mean, come on?! She looks younger now than she did 15 years ago. I have no judgements AT ALL against her for this. Hell, if I have the money when I'm a bit older, I'm definately going to get some work done. But a nose job is bound to interfer with singing, and I feel it has.

 

Anyway, see you in Manchester Celine - your first UK concert since 1999!

[karatedude317]

Hey

 

I think this is a great topic.

 

I think there is a big difference between the Vegas Celine and the current Celine - for the simple reason that the Vegas Celine was an almost retired pop star. Out in a US back water, playing to hot dog eating tourists, not really making new music, doing the shame show night after night after night, in a huge show that didn't really break new ground, just made a lot of money. In a city in the middle of a desert, drying out the voice, leading to lipped performances. Same songs, same dance routines, same set, same chit chat with the crowd. No wonder you guys think she was less vibrant. A New Day? Nothing new about doing it 700 times.

 

Cut to the new Celine. Doing what an international pop star should do. Play on the international scene. Instead of being miles away playing in a hotel in a tacky, low culture hell hole of a tourist destination called Vegas, she's back in the cities that matter. London. Paris. New York. Sydney. Tokyo. Dublin. Beijing.

 

Celine promised fans a Vegas show so spectacular and huge that it couldn't travel. The fans would have to come to her. But am I the only Celine fan that thinks the clips of the tour on youtube of her Tokyo leg, with huge screens, in the round, the lights, the atmosphere, the screaming fans, looks much more spectacular than the flying pianos of Vegas ever did? The grand entrance on the tour looks amazing. Kind of regret watching it on youtube as I've now ruined the surprise for myself, but that IS an entrance. The screaming fans, the screens, the fast paced editing of Celine clips through the years, the bass of a dance mix of I Drove All Night, the screens raising to reveal our superstar goddess. Watch the DVD of A New Day... she makes a quiet entrance and receives a warm welcome of subdued applause. You can't compare an arena to a theatre, which is all the Collisseum is.

 

I love the new Celine. She's excited again. She's back in the game. And more importantly, she's got new material. Taking Chances is packed with great new music that I can't wait to see performed on stage. Her last full studio album in English was years ago - One Heart, released as A New Day started. She's back making music. Which is what a pop star should be doing.

 

Regarding the comments of Celine sounding more nasal these days...I know this is going to go down like a lead balloon, but I do think this has a lot to do with the work she's had done. Don't want to start a big debate on here, and surgery doesn't make you a bad person, but she has had a lot fixed. I mean, come on?! She looks younger now than she did 15 years ago. I have no judgements AT ALL against her for this. Hell, if I have the money when I'm a bit older, I'm definately going to get some work done. But a nose job is bound to interfer with singing, and I feel it has.

 

Anyway, see you in Manchester Celine - your first UK concert since 1999!

 

Hey glad u like the topic. When I first posted it I thought people would think I had gone crazy but it seems to get a lot of discussions going. I enjoyed what you wrote. I think she sounded more nasal in Vegas than she does now, but remember she had nasal moments in the 90's too. I don't think she had any surgery now but i'm sure in the early 90's she had to in order to look the way she does now. She does look younger now, but attribute that to the hair and different makeup and clothes. She does look older in some shots when the lighting isn't good and there's less makeup, so that's how I can tell she hasn't had any recent surgery.

 

Back to the topic though, I think the new/old Celine however you want to call it is the one we all love and want to always see. I'm glad in a way that Vegas is over, and i'm sure in a way, she's kind of relieved it is too.

[Céline's Blues]

There is no denying that she feels more liberated on stage where her place is. Vegas was good for its aim, she set records, she proved she can handle amazing crowds that aren't even fans of her. But unfortunately it's not where the real Céline should be. This very fact you notice when you watch the videos from the Taking Chances tour.

 

She may not be the same Céline that cared for music so much back in the 90's. But you still feel the real Céline that loves to rock the stage during the songs that she sings fully live. she brings them to life like she would never been able to do in Vegas. She comes to a different city each night and feels the discipline of having to prove herself a little bit and she gives her best.

 

At least we still see she cares for being herself on stage. At least that. She's remained the singer that moves the audience with her voice. I think it's definitely worth it to go out and see her live. Even if there are some critical voices that she's lipping some songs. She may be lipping but you still get about 13 great songs that are sung 100% live and that's already something to look forward to.

 

I know I am looking forward to experiencing her live, no matter the critics. It's Céline after all.

[MTJ]

Well there are pretty big differences between being on her stage in LV and being on tour. Like her daily breathing/vocal stuff Im sure is different, esp. since she doesn't have the stable humidifier like she did at the cesears.

And think about it, they had a sound system set in place for 5 years there, here they have to recreate it every night, which is so hard to do --and the flaws can't be ironed out as easily.

 

I definitly miss the package of vegas, with the backgrounds and dancers, but this tour looks amazing too. As far as tours go, this looks as good as you can get!

[Shaun]

From what I've seen so far of the tour Celine is just a completely different performer this year compared to the last couple of years in Vegas.

 

Dont get me wrong, when A New Day... started Celine was up for the challenge, the show was amazing, it was new and it was unique. She sold out the place for years. She performed the same songs, the same moves, said the same things all to crowds who, sometimes, weren't crazy about her. That is bound to affect your enthusiasm as a performer. Then Caesars asked her to extend her contract. Sadly Rene and Celine chose to do so and by the end of A New Day... I think most of us would agree that is was plainly obvious that it was time for Celine to get out. In fact I would say for the majority of 2007 Celine was bored with A New Day... and instead of regretting the end of it in December she was actually very much looking forward to it. It had become a chore and no performer should feel this way about their passion.

 

Fast forward to this year and the new tour and Celine is full of energy, enthusiasm and passion for what she does. She's happy to see the crowds screaming her name, dancing along with her. She knows they want to be there and haven't won their tickets courtesy of a lucky spin at the roulette table. Celine, and the entire band, are so involved with each other on stage and it gets the audience more involved too. The whole tour package just seems to work so well. Celine, the band, the dancers, the video footage and the stage. Sure they are still working on some things as the tour goes on but this gives Celine a chance to express herself even more. It's great to see us being so far into the tour and songs like "My Love" and "A New Day Has Come" just being added. Celine makes these decisions. It often took years to get a new song into "A New Day...", now it's just taking a few days. Celine is back in control now and it shows.

 

Get over the issues you might have with Celine and catch her live in concert this year whilst you still can. Who knows when the next tour will be.

[pepillo90]

From what I've seen so far of the tour Celine is just a completely different performer this year compared to the last couple of years in Vegas.

 

Dont get me wrong, when A New Day... started Celine was up for the challenge, the show was amazing, it was new and it was unique. She sold out the place for years. She performed the same songs, the same moves, said the same things all to crowds who, sometimes, weren't crazy about her. That is bound to affect your enthusiasm as a performer. Then Caesars asked her to extend her contract. Sadly Rene and Celine chose to do so and by the end of A New Day... I think most of us would agree that is was plainly obvious that it was time for Celine to get out. In fact I would say for the majority of 2007 Celine was bored with A New Day... and instead of regretting the end of it in December she was actually very much looking forward to it. It had become a chore and no performer should feel this way about their passion.

 

Fast forward to this year and the new tour and Celine is full of energy, enthusiasm and passion for what she does. She's happy to see the crowds screaming her name, dancing along with her. She knows they want to be there and haven't won their tickets courtesy of a lucky spin at the roulette table. Celine, and the entire band, are so involved with each other on stage and it gets the audience more involved too. The whole tour package just seems to work so well. Celine, the band, the dancers, the video footage and the stage. Sure they are still working on some things as the tour goes on but this gives Celine a chance to express herself even more. It's great to see us being so far into the tour and songs like "My Love" and "A New Day Has Come" just being added. Celine makes these decisions. It often took years to get a new song into "A New Day...", now it's just taking a few days. Celine is back in control now and it shows.

 

Get over the issues you might have with Celine and catch her live in concert this year whilst you still can. Who knows when the next tour will be.

You have said it all!

 

:clap: :clap:

Edited March 26, 2008 at 03:12 AM by Bellamy

[ajguerras]

I think She is better than ever, in every way !!!

[Bellamy]

I know this topic would be full of arguments since it's posted. No more talk about live or not. Believe what you want to believe, and stop trying to force others accept your opinion. Any more talk about live or not would make this topic closed.

 

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[karatedude317]

I know this topic would be full of arguments since it's posted. No more talk about live or not. Believe what you want to believe, and stop trying to force others accept your opinion. Any more talk about live or not would make this topic closed.

 

Topic cleaned.

 

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