Is Barack Obama the new JFK?

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Have you seen sicko??

[RojoLuvsCeline]

Have you seen sicko??

 

 

Well honestly...you can't get ALL your facts from Micheal Moore. Of course his movies make you think twice about things. But after all they are HIS movies so he is going to go over and beyond to try to make his points and opinions the right ones. He will do whatever he can to get you to agree with him. Im not saying he is wrong on some of his views but yeah..it's like listening to one side of the debate.

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I understand what you mean and I agree. But when factual data are presented you cannot deny them. Plain and simple. That's all I was saying. Obviously PrincesseJen didn't see the movie so she avoided responding to me unlike my previous posts. So she surely doesn't know the "other" side of the story. Like you said: there are two sides of the story. Until I saw that movie I only knew about one side

[PrincesseJen]

I understand what you mean and I agree. But when factual data are presented you cannot deny them. Plain and simple. That's all I was saying. Obviously PrincesseJen didn't see the movie so she avoided responding to me unlike my previous posts. So she surely doesn't know the "other" side of the story. Like you said: there are two sides of the story. Until I saw that movie I only knew about one side

 

No I haven't seen it. Though people I do know have seen it and they say it is an eye opener but no reason not to support Hillary.

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So you're gonna base your judgment on what others said to you? Aren't you a little interested in seeing it and understand a little more about this embarrassment that is our Health Care System?

[PrincesseJen]

So you're gonna base your judgment on what others said to you? Aren't you a little interested in seeing it and understand a little more about this embarrassment that is our Health Care System?

 

I'm a "Naturalist" (meaning I don't take any medication and go a more natural route) so I don't even need a health care system. Other people who it concerns should watch it but I'm not that interested.

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What an idiotic thing to say. I really hope for you you don't get cancer or let's say your appendix suddenly burst and require surgery or you get hit by a car and need surgery and get complication and your health insurance denies you the surgery that'll save your leg or your sight.

 

What a stupid person you are for saying health care is NOT something you need. The more you talk the more stupid you sound.

 

Again, you chose no to see both side of an issue, issue you said you knew everything about. Liar!

[PrincesseJen]

What an idiotic thing to say. I really hope for you you don't get cancer or let's say your appendix suddenly burst and require surgery or you get hit by a car and need surgery and get complication and your health insurance denies you the surgery that'll save your leg or your sight.

 

What a stupid person you are for saying health care is NOT something you need. The more you talk the more stupid you sound.

 

Again, you chose no to see both side of an issue, issue you said you knew everything about. Liar!

 

I didn't say I don't have health insurance. I have a very nice plan since I work for J.H.U.. I just don't use it. I take good care of myself. I know I won't get denied for any accidents because of my plan. Like I said, this would conern other people so they should watch it. I don't feel the need nor do I want to watch it. If I got cancer again, I'd take a more natural route. It's not stupid. Food is the wonderful medicine we are givin' naturally. I wish more Americans would take the healthier road of not eating crap all the time. For that causes the major health issues Americans have today. And they would probably get off all that damn medication that's killing them anyway. And that is a smart thing to do.

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What an idiotic thing to say. I really hope for you you don't get cancer or let's say your appendix suddenly burst and require surgery or you get hit by a car and need surgery and get complication and your health insurance denies you the surgery that'll save your leg or your sight.

 

What a stupid person you are for saying health care is NOT something you need. The more you talk the more stupid you sound.

 

Again, you chose no to see both side of an issue, issue you said you knew everything about. Liar!

 

If I got cancer again, I'd take a more natural route.

 

And die.

Edited January 29, 2008 at 02:26 AM by incognito

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Again: YOU SAID YOU KNEW EVERYTHING ABOUT HILLARY'S FAILED HEALTH CARE REFORM. Wrong! You only know her sde of the story.

 

And you know what? This statement of yours will come back biting you in the a$$. You think you're above any diseases and illnesses and that you don't need medicine to cure yourself? Good luck!

 

I'm beyond words to express how stupid you sound. It's people like you who voted for Bush: uneducated people who would only listen to one side and not care about knowing all the facts. And look where it got us. In deep $hi+.

[PrincesseJen]

What an idiotic thing to say. I really hope for you you don't get cancer or let's say your appendix suddenly burst and require surgery or you get hit by a car and need surgery and get complication and your health insurance denies you the surgery that'll save your leg or your sight.

 

What a stupid person you are for saying health care is NOT something you need. The more you talk the more stupid you sound.

 

Again, you chose no to see both side of an issue, issue you said you knew everything about. Liar!

 

If I got cancer again, I'd take a more natural route.

 

And die.

 

 

Wrong.

[PrincesseJen]

Again: YOU SAID YOU KNEW EVERYTHING ABOUT HILLARY'S FAILED HEALTH CARE REFORM. Wrong! You only know her sde of the story.

 

And you know what? This statement of yours will come back biting you in the a$$. You think you're above any diseases and illnesses and that you don't need medicine to cure yourself? Good luck!

 

I'm beyond words to express how stupid you sound. It's people like you who voted for Bush: uneducated people who would only listen to one side and not care about knowing all the facts. And look where it got us. In deep $hi+.

 

 

Medication causes more harm then good. Go talk to the people who have serious health issues and long term disablities from meds. Or talk to the parents of the teens who committed suicide from taking a medication. Yeah, a lot of help that did them. I would recommend you read the book "Natural Cures "They" Don't Want You To Know About" That book will make you see things more clear. I'm not stupid, I would have NEVER voted for Bush. Hillary is NOT Bush! The main reason her healthcare plan didn't work is because of the lack of support by people who wanted it to fail. They hated the idea of a First Lady playing such a political role so of course they didn't want to support it. But alas I guess were are going to have to agree on disagreeing. Surprise surprise. The reason I didn't reply to you sooner was because I realized our conversations are unpleasant and I come here to convers with friends. I rather spend my time here with people I actually like talking to.

[incognito]

What an idiotic thing to say. I really hope for you you don't get cancer or let's say your appendix suddenly burst and require surgery or you get hit by a car and need surgery and get complication and your health insurance denies you the surgery that'll save your leg or your sight.

 

What a stupid person you are for saying health care is NOT something you need. The more you talk the more stupid you sound.

 

Again, you chose no to see both side of an issue, issue you said you knew everything about. Liar!

 

If I got cancer again, I'd take a more natural route.

 

And die.

 

 

Wrong.

 

Nope. I'm correct.

 

And the book you referred to is a big joke. Written by a fraudster to make money out of gullible and vulnerable people.. his website too.

Edited January 29, 2008 at 02:57 AM by incognito

[PrincesseJen]

Nope. I'm correct.

 

 

 

Again, try reading "Natural Cures "They" Don't Want You To Know About". There are natural was of defeating cancer that the drug companies don't want people to know about because they would lose money. Melissa Etheridge went the more natural route and didn't take any meds.

[PrincesseJen]

Nope. I'm correct.

 

And the book you referred to is a big joke. Written by a fraudster to make money out of gullible and vulnerable people.. his website too.

 

He actually explains all those charges in his book. Being set up to look bad so people wouldn't think he was credible. So no one would believe his claims. There are many people who believe him and are living healthier lives.

[incognito]

Nope. I'm correct.

 

 

 

Melissa Etheridge went the more natural route and didn't take any meds. [/b]

 

Yes she did. Why do you think she lost her hair? She took natural therapies to combat the side effects of the traditional *medical* treatments she took. She had chemotherapy which was what CURED her of the cancer. She smoked pot to take the pain away.

Edited January 29, 2008 at 03:07 AM by incognito

[PrincesseJen]

Nope. I'm correct.

 

 

 

Melissa Etheridge went the more natural route anddidn't take any meds. [/b]

 

Yes she did. Why do you think she lost her hair? She took natural therapies to combat the side effects of the traditional *medical* treatments she took. She had chemotherapy which was was CURED her of the cancer. She smoked pot to take the pain away.

 

 

But she didn't even need to have chemo. There are other ways. And if you ask people that have had chemo they'd tell they would have rather died. You have to ask yourself which came first, the natural way of healing or man made medication? It's funny how the media calls the natural way controversal yet the man made way with all it's side effects, dangers and deaths is considered normal.

[incognito]

Nope. I'm correct.

 

 

 

Melissa Etheridge went the more natural route anddidn't take any meds. [/b]

 

Yes she did. Why do you think she lost her hair? She took natural therapies to combat the side effects of the traditional *medical* treatments she took. She had chemotherapy which was was CURED her of the cancer. She smoked pot to take the pain away.

 

 

But she didn't even need to have chemo. There are other ways. And if you ask people that have had chemo they'd tell they would have rather died. You have to ask yourself which came first, the natural way of healing or man made medication? It's funny how the media calls the natural way controversal yet the man made way with all it's side effects, dangers and deaths is considered normal.

 

I have family members... my grandmother being one... who had chemo and yes it made her very sick but it cured her. Some fancy herbal or diet remedy wouldn't have and the people who suggest that and who *charge* you for their diet plans are no better than the pharmaceutical companies.

 

I'd rather puke my guts up, lose all my hair and feel like death for a few months than be actually dead.

 

The natural way of healing did come first but uh... most people who got cancer died back then. hahaha

Edited January 29, 2008 at 03:17 AM by incognito

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Jen... stop digging... you're gonna end up in China by tomorrow morning

 

I never thought it was possible to be so dense and so ashamed to be wrong to have to resort to such idiotic statements and examples. Kevin Trudeau was found guilty by court of law, not by drug companies. I loathe drug company but even I know that there's no cure for cancer or other disease Trudeau says there is. Jesus, are you that brainwashed? OMG!

 

You said that Melissa Ethridge didn't resort to chemical drugs to treat her cancer. You were proven wrong and yet you try to get around and come up with some other idiotic comment. Come on! You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

 

And I never said you voted for Bush. I said stupid people did.. well not all of them obviously

[PrincesseJen]

Nope. I'm correct.

 

 

 

Melissa Etheridge went the more natural route anddidn't take any meds. [/b]

 

Yes she did. Why do you think she lost her hair? She took natural therapies to combat the side effects of the traditional *medical* treatments she took. She had chemotherapy which was was CURED her of the cancer. She smoked pot to take the pain away.

 

 

But she didn't even need to have chemo. There are other ways. And if you ask people that have had chemo they'd tell they would have rather died. You have to ask yourself which came first, the natural way of healing or man made medication? It's funny how the media calls the natural way controversal yet the man made way with all it's side effects, dangers and deaths is considered normal.

 

I have family members... my grandmother being one... who had chemo and yes it made her very sick but it cured her. Some fancy herbal or diet remedy wouldn't have and the people who suggest that and who *charge* you for their diet plans are no better than the pharmaceutical companies.

 

I'd rather puke my guts up, lose all my hair and feel like death for a few months than be actually dead.

 

The natural way of healing did come first but uh... most people who got cancer died back then. hahaha

 

I don't do herbal diets pills you see in the store. In the book he warns about those kinds of things. Not all can be trusted.

 

Even back then a lot of people didn't know the natural cure but it doesn't mean it didn't exist. Men like like to rely on there own knowledge to solve things. But in certain parts of the world where people didn't use documentation, I'm sure these ways were practiced. "They" would like you to believe that the natural way was a bunch of nonsense. That's all part of there plan to make money. They don't care about people getting better. I have a Christian CD of getting healthy and this woman minister recommends the natural way of eating and losing weight. She tells a story of one of her friends that works to coordinate conferences. Well, she coordinated her Christian conference for a healthy life style and one day she was also coordinated a pharmaceutical conference. She brough the papers of the ministry conference with her while talking to one of the pharmicy people. He asked what it was and she told him. He said "Well, I sure hope that plan doesn't work because we make millions and millions of dollars on fat depressed woman."

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[incognito]

Nope. I'm correct.

 

 

 

Melissa Etheridge went the more natural route anddidn't take any meds. [/b]

 

Yes she did. Why do you think she lost her hair? She took natural therapies to combat the side effects of the traditional *medical* treatments she took. She had chemotherapy which was was CURED her of the cancer. She smoked pot to take the pain away.

 

 

But she didn't even need to have chemo. There are other ways. And if you ask people that have had chemo they'd tell they would have rather died. You have to ask yourself which came first, the natural way of healing or man made medication? It's funny how the media calls the natural way controversal yet the man made way with all it's side effects, dangers and deaths is considered normal.

 

I have family members... my grandmother being one... who had chemo and yes it made her very sick but it cured her. Some fancy herbal or diet remedy wouldn't have and the people who suggest that and who *charge* you for their diet plans are no better than the pharmaceutical companies.

 

I'd rather puke my guts up, lose all my hair and feel like death for a few months than be actually dead.

 

The natural way of healing did come first but uh... most people who got cancer died back then. hahaha

 

I don't do herbal diets pills you see in the store. In the book he warns about those kinds of things. Not all can be trusted.

 

Even back then a lot of people didn't know the natural cure but it doesn't mean it didn't exist. Men like like to rely on there own knowledge to solve things. But in certain parts of the world where people didn't use documentation, I'm sure these ways were practiced. "They" would like you to believe that the natural way was a bunch of nonsense. That's all part of there plan to make money. They don't care about people getting better. I have a Christian CD of getting healthy and this woman minister recommends the natural way of eating and losing weight. She tells a story of one of her friends that works to coordinate conferences. Well, she coordinated her Christian conference for a healthy life style and one day she was also coordinated a pharmaceutical conference. She brough the papers of the ministry conference with her while talking to one of the pharmicy people. He asked what it was and she told him. He said "Well, I sure hope that plan doesn't work because we make millions and millions of dollars on fat depressed woman."

 

I didn't mention any "pills" at all. Reread what I posted.

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I didn't mention any "pills" at all. Reread what I posted.

[incognito]

Cool drinking game for tonight's debate:

Down one shot each time Obama says the word "change".

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Didn't drink much now, did you? He ain't as stupid as you think he is.

 

Best line of the debate IMO: Hillary's "it did take a Clinton to clean up after the first Bush, and I think it might take another one to clean up after the second Bush" :gigggle:

[incognito]

Clinton won the debate. Obama's answer about immigrants not taking jobs from African-Americans was complete crap.

 

It did make a nice change not to see them fighting. I'm wondering whether somebody sedated them both. haha

 

Loved Clinton's answer detailing her experience.

[CelionDion]

Hillary all the way

 

Although I can do without her version of ''You And I'' if she'd win

[A New Day Has Come]

I like Barack Obama I think he will be good for the U.S. after Bush.

[PrincesseJen]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Im697880oo

 

Edited February 2, 2008 at 02:55 AM by PrincesseJen

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