Is Celine still relevant in today's music world?

[CelineFanInSoCal]

i'm sorry, so very sorry, but htis topic is a little dumb (sorry) someone who sells over 3 million copies of an album is relevent ,some one who sells out there tour is relevent, not just anyone can do those things,even whoriah carey is struggling with her sh!tty album. if you ask me e=mc2 is proof that whoriahs star is fading.....NO SH!IT SHE'S RELEVENT!!!, (sorry)

 

 

Well your post just goes to show that not all young folks are interested in Hanna Montana or that kinda stuff... good for you.

 

But album sales and sold out tour dates don't "cement" someone as being relevant.

 

Album sales: A solid figure for a good album, but mostly supported by her die-hard fan base. Not staggering numbers where it's obvious that she's selling albums to a large number of non-fans.

 

Tour: Again, die hard fans. And yeah, there are still plenty more people out there who are buying tickets to her show simply to say that they were able to finally see her live. I would also venture to admit that a hefty portion of tickets are sold because someone "has to go with _____", where the blank would be girlfriend, boyfriend, husband, wife, etc.

 

If the birth year in your profile is accurate, then you may not understand when other, older fans compare Celine to Barbra Streisand and the like. The Celine we have now, post-Vegas, 40 years old, finally a mother and finally enjoying more of what life has to offer and enjoying the money she's earned, isn't interested in the same things that the Celine of the 90's is interested in. There are, however, still plenty of hardcore fans out there who will continue to buy her new albums and tickets to her concerts due to their devotion as a fan. This does not prove current-day musical relevance, not for Celine or any other artist. Rather, it proves a strong fan base from previous success, which is what the bulk of her current success for album sales and tour tickets can be attributed to.

 

And again, Mariah/E=MC2 is not something that can be compared to Celine/Taking Chances. Maybe 10 years ago they were "rivals", but nowadays, we aren't comparing the two artists. Celine's moved on from that part of her career.

 

Let Celine continue to do her thing, and let the millions of fans that she has love her for the artist and person she is. Musical relevance in 2008 is different than in 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999 and 2000. Those years were so themed by certain genres, groups and sounds. 2008's music is different on many levels. Musical relevance is more personal than mainstream for many segments of the population.

 

Well said.

 

 

Thanks!

 

It's tough sometimes to split yourself between die-hard fan and un-biased music lover. Once any fan can do that, they will realize much more than what they know simply as a Celine-obsessed fan.

 

It's important to keep yourself educated, regardless of the topic, either on this forum or in day to day life.

 

As godessceline just posted on this thread, Celine is still important as a live performer, but as a recording artist, not so much these days. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it will certainly not guarantee her any large success for these singles being released or huge radio attention. She's at the point in her career where fans will still appreciate her for what she's doing as far as any new recordings may go, but her musical relevance these days will have to be supported by live performances or appearances, as her studio albums aren't being supported by radio or the general public. It's not 1997 anymore, and the day of the diva isn't as strong as it once was. That's not saying Celine isn't a great artist, but just not as relevant to the music buying general public anymore. no big deal. Music comes in goes in cycles. There are plenty other artists and groups from those days that aren't relevant anymore. Heard anything from boy-bands lately? No. They, too, are not relevant. There are plenty of other types of music that just aren't 'en vogue' these days. Doesn't make them bad, just not relevant to the music scene in 2008.

[JohnFan97]

i'm sorry, so very sorry, but htis topic is a little dumb (sorry) someone who sells over 3 million copies of an album is relevent ,some one who sells out there tour is relevent, not just anyone can do those things,even whoriah carey is struggling with her sh!tty album. if you ask me e=mc2 is proof that whoriahs star is fading.....NO SH!IT SHE'S RELEVENT!!!, (sorry)

 

 

Well your post just goes to show that not all young folks are interested in Hanna Montana or that kinda stuff... good for you.

 

But album sales and sold out tour dates don't "cement" someone as being relevant.

 

Album sales: A solid figure for a good album, but mostly supported by her die-hard fan base. Not staggering numbers where it's obvious that she's selling albums to a large number of non-fans.

 

Tour: Again, die hard fans. And yeah, there are still plenty more people out there who are buying tickets to her show simply to say that they were able to finally see her live. I would also venture to admit that a hefty portion of tickets are sold because someone "has to go with _____", where the blank would be girlfriend, boyfriend, husband, wife, etc.

 

If the birth year in your profile is accurate, then you may not understand when other, older fans compare Celine to Barbra Streisand and the like. The Celine we have now, post-Vegas, 40 years old, finally a mother and finally enjoying more of what life has to offer and enjoying the money she's earned, isn't interested in the same things that the Celine of the 90's is interested in. There are, however, still plenty of hardcore fans out there who will continue to buy her new albums and tickets to her concerts due to their devotion as a fan. This does not prove current-day musical relevance, not for Celine or any other artist. Rather, it proves a strong fan base from previous success, which is what the bulk of her current success for album sales and tour tickets can be attributed to.

 

And again, Mariah/E=MC2 is not something that can be compared to Celine/Taking Chances. Maybe 10 years ago they were "rivals", but nowadays, we aren't comparing the two artists. Celine's moved on from that part of her career.

 

Let Celine continue to do her thing, and let the millions of fans that she has love her for the artist and person she is. Musical relevance in 2008 is different than in 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999 and 2000. Those years were so themed by certain genres, groups and sounds. 2008's music is different on many levels. Musical relevance is more personal than mainstream for many segments of the population.

 

Well said.

 

 

Thanks!

 

It's tough sometimes to split yourself between die-hard fan and un-biased music lover. Once any fan can do that, they will realize much more than what they know simply as a Celine-obsessed fan.

 

It's important to keep yourself educated, regardless of the topic, either on this forum or in day to day life.

 

As godessceline just posted on this thread, Celine is still important as a live performer, but as a recording artist, not so much these days. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it will certainly not guarantee her any large success for these singles being released or huge radio attention. She's at the point in her career where fans will still appreciate her for what she's doing as far as any new recordings may go, but her musical relevance these days will have to be supported by live performances or appearances, as her studio albums aren't being supported by radio or the general public. It's not 1997 anymore, and the day of the diva isn't as strong as it once was. That's not saying Celine isn't a great artist, but just not as relevant to the music buying general public anymore. no big deal. Music comes in goes in cycles. There are plenty other artists and groups from those days that aren't relevant anymore. Heard anything from boy-bands lately? No. They, too, are not relevant. There are plenty of other types of music that just aren't 'en vogue' these days. Doesn't make them bad, just not relevant to the music scene in 2008.

 

Yes she is still relevant and liked even among the youth even if you find it hard to believe. For all those of you that say celine is not relevant, i argue mariah isn't relevant as well. Mariah is not selling like she use to and the only thing that keeps making people like her is that in every single music video she has something to do with "sex." Sex sells. Celine Dion is RELEVENT because she is the BIGGEST SELLING FEMALE ARTIST OF ALL TIME!

 

And to the person that said __has to go with ___ and thats why the concerts are selling, GIVE me a break. Even though that happens 3/4 or even 9/10 of the entire stadium is old fans and new fans. Never underestimate the power of Celine Dion.

 

This forum is always so pesimistic about Celine. No wonder mariah sells, her followers don't question her even if she isn't selling like she use to. People don't buy Cds anymore, they buy MP3s.

[CelineAndRene]

for sure.. we'd be surprised how many Little kids like her

[KimboCosmo]

Of coarse she is...my 12 year old niece LOVES her (and not just because I do) she even spreads the news to all her friends, and has all of them loving her...I know many other kids who do too. Ages 5, 8, 10, 15...that is awesome to know a lot of kids are liking her!

[georchelr]

hi i am from costa rica and i love celine dion since i was 8, of course i see her as an idol, not only for her voice but also for all the special moments her music has given me, beside that she has been succesfull and recognized for the last 2 decades and thats what makes her the artist she is today.

we have to accept that music bussines has decreased in quality and sales, but there are graet voices and artists that are above that, celine is one of those, even though she doesnt has number one singles now, everyone knows who she is and the talent she has

as a fan i am satisfied with her music, specially french, wich i think is better than her english music, sound different and passioned, the lyrics are amazing and the melodies crush your heart

celine's english albums are great, but i think she has to reinvent herself, a little bit, to give an example, like madonna does.....

and of course they have different styles and voices(well..... celine has a voice) but what i mean is she can sing anything and trying new styles could be fun and interesting, not only for her but also for the fans, i'd always though she would sond amazing as an electronic dance diva..

but no matter what music she does or how long it takes to make an album , we ( her real fans ) will love her always!!!!!! cause she is part of our lives

[katie555]

I definitely understand the thought behind this. Quite frankly I'm still suprised Celine is as famous as she is. She's always been the diva that is kind of a joke and who makes cheesy pop songs but still rose to fame on her voice alone. I even think she's kind of the "picked on" diva by fans of other singers. If you look at Whitney, and Mariah, and Janet, and Madonna, they all seem to command a bit more respect than Celine. It's never been cool to like her, and I don't think it ever will. It's a shame because her voice is just simply one of the greatest to ever grace the earth, yet I think certain decisions throughout her career have held her back a little bit while still making her a great success. I don't see Celine's music making it back into mainstream because times are just too different than they were when she was at her peak. As much as I want her to be on top of the charts I just care that she's making music for her fans to listen to because her voice brings so much happiness to a LOT of people, and I give her so much credit for being as huge as she is without really being in your face mainstream like say Madonna and Janet have been. She's never relied on antics to sell records, just plain talent, drive, and hardwork. I wish people would take into account what a fantastic example she is to people, and what a warm, humble soul she is on top of her amazing talented voice. But of course being nice has never been cool...

 

I really like that answer a lot actually, spacially that is mentionet what is always on my mind it's never been cool to like her'. I wonder really why it's that???

I always have that really strange feeling that I am going to be laughed at, actually I am most of the time!!!

Really why isn't cool to like her???? If to think about it, people who doesnt know her, dont know she is nice, she could be meam, very mean.

 

about music, as much as I want her to be on top of the charts I just really care that she's making music for her fans to listen to because her voice brings so much happiness to my life. But that brings me to conclusion, that her fan base is trully huge (she can ask for virtually any price for a concert ticket, and let's face it loads of us going to see her more that once! Like No 1 Celine Fan )

 

Throughout all her career she never change much, and as we experienced, even on this forum simple hair cut coused wave of petitions and protests ,

and even if she want to change, lets call it: re-invent herself ( like madonna does almost every album, maybe to catch up with new trend, new fans, new generation, you name it) she really can't becouse we all not letting her!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

As Rene told her, that she is the only one thing that never changed in our lives, when she was so upsad about silly haircut. I found it so sad, really becoue I have changed I grow up, and would love that everybody will give opportunity to change, stop holding her back, let her do what ever she wants, short her long her, ballads temple songs, buy, wear what ever she want becouse at the end of the day I much I love she has her own live and I have mine.

And I belive one day I will meet her face to face and Iwill say that to her.

No matter what she will do nothing will ever matter becouse we all love her no matter what. We all will used to any behaviour, image etc

 

And gosh she looks so hot in those mini skirts

Edited June 5, 2008 at 12:28 AM by katie555

[Nmj]

No I love her but shes not as much as I hope

-Nmj

[C.D._LoVer]

I think that Celine is relevant in today's music world. I mean when ever people think about the top vocalists out there I know Celine is mentioned I think first, then Whitney then Maria. The only unfortunate thing is that most people my age (15) and younger do not know who Celine Dion is. I think with this new album, Taking Chances she needs to be out there more, she needs more singles because this album is amazing and has so many different sounds. I think that many people in my high school need to listen to songs like hers instead of this cruddy rap stuff. I think that younger people need to hear Celine to make sure that she is still on top, songs like hers are so great and powerful where as "Hannah Montana's" songs are just a catchy beat.

 

To me and I think every one else on this forum, She is the best of the best. I just hope she can get herself more exposure and get this album out there!

[bkitt]

Celine's music is simply amazing, and whether or not the radio plays it, or whether or not she is number one on the Billboard charts doesn't make it any less relevant. Her songs touch people all over the world, and I don't think any recording artist in the world today could claim to be more successful. I think a lot of artists do things that are shocking just to appeal to the industry today, but Celine isn't on that level. She relies on her talent to bring fans to her shows.......not gimmicks. When I turn on the radio today, I never know WHAT is going to play......some of it is so disgusting! Celine's music is always a CD away........and when I turned it on the other day, my 15 year old son starting singing. He looked at me with this SHOCKED expression, laughed, and said........."OMG, you've played this so many times, that I know all the words!" Definitely relevant!

[KimboCosmo]

If it's never been "cool" to like Celine, then why do millions of people to this day pack stadiums and sold out shows to watch and hear her perform?

[Nmj]

She is the "Biggest Selling Female Artist of All Time"

She Broke Records in Las Vegas

She Broke Records with her Vegas DVD

She has many, many #1 hits WORLD WIDE

She is multi-award winner ..(Everything from Grammies to Oscars)

She sings permantly in 2 Languages

She has the best of both worlds family life, and award winning singer

She has true values'; (someone you would want as a friend)

 

So In her own way YES, she is relevant today.

-Nmj

Edited June 8, 2008 at 02:27 AM by Nmj

[nick1975]

If it's never been "cool" to like Celine, then why do millions of people to this day pack stadiums and sold out shows to watch and hear her perform?

 

correction: the show is NOT selling out

[Black Kitten]

If it's never been "cool" to like Celine, then why do millions of people to this day pack stadiums and sold out shows to watch and hear her perform?

 

correction: the show is NOT selling out

[Angel, You thrill me]

If it's never been "cool" to like Celine, then why do millions of people to this day pack stadiums and sold out shows to watch and hear her perform?

 

correction: the show is NOT selling out

 

[Bralo20]

correction: the show is NOT selling out

 

The TC tour?

 

It's correct, not all the shows were sold out in advance... I think the tour will be turning at about 85 to 90% of sold seats.

 

I see artists doing much worser... Bruce Springsteen for example was booked in Belgium to perform in the King Boudewijn Stade with a capacity of about 55 to 60.000 people... Which he filled before, back in 2002 with his "The Rising" tour... Ticket sales gone bad and the show was rebooked at the Antwerp Sportpaleis with a capacity of about 15.000 people (at max cap.) which wasn't sold out either.

[Bralo20]

And yes... She is relevant tot the music world although she has reached a status where it doesn't matter at all... She's become a music legend.

[Bluto]

Hi- interesting comments. I have a great deal of respect for Celine. I believe she is certainly relevant to her fans – mainly aging boomers who continue to follow her career. Doing a remake of “Alone” was certainly ‘taking chances’ however. The original Heart version is so much more powerful with Denny Carmassi on drums. Celine’s version sounds like a drum machine by comparison. I think Celine needs to find new songwriters - who can supply her with powerful original songs that will let her shine as the great diva she truly is – and what her fans want to experience more of!

[Edwin]

Celine is beloved by her legions of fans for who she is. Look at the record number of people who flocked to her during her unprecedented 5 year run, who pay outrageous prices for 'promotional items' and continue to grow this forum at lightspeed.

If she wants to create a cd of 'lullabies' (Miracle), I think she has proven time and time again she can pull it off. No, it's not going to be loved by everyone, but what is? So no matter her next project or how poorly her record label promotes it, Celine WILL continue to attract fans, young and old, for decades to come.

[Nmj]

ask people if they ever heard of CELINE and they will say YES... they may hate her; but they know her ...so thats relevant

-Nmj

[KimboCosmo]

If it's never been "cool" to like Celine, then why do millions of people to this day pack stadiums and sold out shows to watch and hear her perform?

 

correction: the show is NOT selling out

I know you are banned now, but I just wanted to state that the AND show sold out every night and she has had many many sold out shows on her tour...so correction:the shows DO AND ARE selling out

[KimboCosmo]

Celine is beloved by her legions of fans for who she is. Look at the record number of people who flocked to her during her unprecedented 5 year run, who pay outrageous prices for 'promotional items' and continue to grow this forum at lightspeed.

If she wants to create a cd of 'lullabies' (Miracle), I think she has proven time and time again she can pull it off. No, it's not going to be loved by everyone, but what is? So no matter her next project or how poorly her record label promotes it, Celine WILL continue to attract fans, young and old, for decades to come.

No one could've said it better

[godessceline]

It's not 1997 anymore, and the day of the diva isn't as strong as it once was. That's not saying Celine isn't a great artist, but just not as relevant to the music buying general public anymore. no big deal. Music comes in goes in cycles. There are plenty other artists and groups from those days that aren't relevant anymore. Heard anything from boy-bands lately? No. They, too, are not relevant. There are plenty of other types of music that just aren't 'en vogue' these days. Doesn't make them bad, just not relevant to the music scene in 2008.

 

Well said. I think the age of the Divas is long gone, period. That includes Mariah and Whitney. It's like "the big three" in modeling in the 90's, which consisted of Christy Turlington, Cindy Crawford and Naomi Campbell. (Claudia Shiffer included on a corner later on.) They DOMINATED the entire industry and what they wanted, they got. Today, the term "supermodel" can't really be used the same way as the industry has changed totally and the same goes for the word "Diva" and being one of the "big" voices. This is not necessarily because you aren't good enough anymore; it's just because music has moved forward. (And no, not even Mariah can count as a "Diva" anymore as she changed totally musically wise towards what is generally seen as "today's" music of TODAY'S industry -hip hop and r'n'b.)