Fiercest Competition Among The Divas to come...

[Kyle_Jared]

As we all know this fall a ton of new releases from MAJOR competion will be making its way out. Whitney, Mariah, Alicia Keys, Janet Jackson and Celine all within weeks apart. Mariahs new project is slated for Nov 20th---ONE WEEK AFTER CELINES and check out this clip from billboard.com:

 

As for the direction of Jackson's as-yet-untitled album, Dupri says, "I don't really know what he's got in mind at this point. His past record isn't shabby so I'm going to let him do what he's going to do. I'm going to do [the new] Mariah [Carey album], and we're going to make it seem like we're in competition to see who's going to have the biggest album of the year."

 

There is no release date yet for the Jackson album, although rumors suggest it may be ready before the end of the year.

 

Note to Celine's Team: PROMOTION PROMOTION PROMOTION

[maxceline]

i dont think there will be a real competion... the people and fans want competition...they make it happens

[Nmj]

All I Know Is That Celine is going to have a hard time if the English CD is up to par..

 

No matter how Much I Love Celine ...Mariah and Janet are HOT right now in the music industry so for Celine to mantain the top she has to have somthing young and catchy for her first single and then I can see it, Celine cleaning up the awards and winning Album of the Year and Artist of the year, so it could be a great year for Celine but the team has to promote well...!

-Nmj

[ByuSmurf]

Promotion doesn't always sell albums. Releasing a SUCCESSFUL HIT single about a month or two before the album release is the key. I always buy an album if I like the first single off of it - it's an appetizer of what is yet to come.

[Davey84]

I don't care that much about sales, of course it's always great to have big sales, but I'm more interested in quality! look at D'elles... zero sales... 101 percent quality!

[Davey84]

All I Know Is That Celine is going to have a hard time if the English CD is up to par..

 

No matter how Much I Love Celine ...Mariah and Janet are HOT right now in the music industry so for Celine to mantain the top she has to have somthing young and catchy for her first single and then I can see it, Celine cleaning up the awards and winning Album of the Year and Artist of the year, so it could be a great year for Celine but the team has to promote well...!

-Nmj

 

hmm is Janet that hot?? I thought her last album flopped beyond Glitter! And as for Mariah... I thought she had to cancel concert because of lack of sales! and as for Whitney... she's still umh yeah still doing what? lol!

 

Nelly Furtado, Ryanna, Fergy , Gwen Stefanie... they are the hot female 'artists' right now...Janet, Mariah and Whitney only got their fanbase left!

 

Oh and Brenda... the first single of an album doesn't say everything... there are loads of artists who have a big big nr 1 single... but the rest of the album sucks!

[becomplete]

Janet and Whitney won't compete with Mariah and Celine this year.

From the Classic Whitney Forum:

 

Source: the print edition of Billboard magazine 7/14/2007:

 

Unscheduled for 2008

 

Whitney Houston

U2

Green Day

REM

Panic! At The Disco

Britney Spears

Coldplay

Janet Jackson

Michael Jackson

Metallica

Radiohead

Neil Young

Aretha Franklin

Steven Malkmus

Cat Power

Guns N Roses

[becomplete]

New albums from female artists before the end of the year: Jennifer Lopez, Carrie Underwood, Mariah Carey, Mary J Blige, Missy Elliott, Jenifer Hudson, Annie Lennox and LeAnn Rimes. Without Janet and Whitney but still a lot of world class singers for the cd buyers to choose from.

[RLAAMJR.]

Well that's great. Thay way, the Celine Team will make sure she'll be at the top. And Celine Dion has the advantage 'cos there a re a lot of fans of her. Even if her previous english albums were not really promoted well , like one heart and miracle, the albums still sold more than 5 million albums. Therefore, we are sure that Celine Dion's english album will sell five million albums. And because she will be touring to different places and the album is Celine's comeback, it will sell another additional sure 5 million ( but I don't think it'll only be five million, right? 'cos she's going to tour to different countries). If we add, 10 million is already a big sale. ( though little compared to her hit albums) but bigger than most albums that are released nowadays 'cos only a few can reach more than 10 million albums sold.

 

But we still can't consider a hit album for Celine Dion.

 

So the possibility is , if 2 songs become a hit on her upcoming album, it will surely reach to more than 20 million copies sold. And if she gets 5 hit singles in the english album, her album may reach 30 million copies.

 

I know that the first paragraph is will materialize that Celine's album will surely sold more than 10 million copies. The third paragraph may possibly happen.

[Davey84]

So the possibility is , if 2 songs become a hit on her upcoming album, it will surely reach to more than 20 million copies sold. And if she gets 5 hit singles in the english album, her album may reach 30 million copies.

 

Are you still living in the 90ies?? Wake up... no album is ever gonna sell 30 milion copies anymoooooooooooore not even Céline's Even James blunt who had 1 massive hit, and 2 hits 'only' sold arround 3 millions of Back to Bedlam!

Edited July 14, 2007 at 07:17 PM by Davey84

[celinerific]

Celine hasn't had a real English "album" for quite awhile now - four years - because Miracle wasn't considered really an "album". It was kind of like an off-to-the-side CD... I call it the sleeping CD because

a. it's filled with lullabies and

b. it was kind of a flop.

So therefore, I think there's going to be a lot of anticipation for this new Celine anglo album.

 

As for the others who are also releasing their new English CDs, they've probably all had a lot of opportunities to have released English things. Celine, on the other hand, has been busy with Vegas all these years. She hasn't even had time to make very many appearances on English-language shows. The English world misses Celine, they're craving her, they want her, and now they're going to get her.

 

I mean, check out the sales status for D'elles - AMAZING! And that's a francophone album too. If you look at it, English dominates French (meaning there's more English people than French, I don't mean that the English rule all French ) and the French people (unless they've got serious issues with the English) will want to purchase her new anglo things too. Much like how we English people like to purchase her French material - even though half of us don't understand a thing she's singing.

 

PLUS, she's taking it up a notch - she's collaborating with people like Timbaland and R. Kelly. If you know what kind of writers they are, you'll know the kind of turn Celine is taking.

 

So I conclude...

I think Celine English release will be highly anticipated huge success.

Edited July 14, 2007 at 07:21 PM by celinerific

[Bellamy]

Miracle is the best selling kid audio album of ALL TIME!!! It's not a flop. Tell me who else can sell a lulaby album as amny as Miracle.

[celinerific]

Miracle is the best selling kid audio album of ALL TIME!!! It's not a flop. Tell me who else can sell a lulaby album as amny as Miracle.

 

Hahaha. In your case, it's not a flop but I just meant compared to her general sales.

[Bellamy]

Hahaha. In your case, it's not a flop but I just meant compared to her general sales.

Compare with her in 1996-1998. You'd be disappointed forever.

 

BTW, Madonna would release her new album in the end of the year too.

[RLAAMJR.]

So the possibility is , if 2 songs become a hit on her upcoming album, it will surely reach to more than 20 million copies sold. And if she gets 5 hit singles in the english album, her album may reach 30 million copies.

 

Are you still living in the 90ies?? Wake up... no album is ever gonna sell 30 milion copies anymoooooooooooore not even Céline's Even James blunt who had 1 massive hit, and 2 hits 'only' sold arround 3 millions of Back to Bedlam!

 

James Blunt doesn't have many fans and he only had one good single for his album. And the artist is just new. And when I said Celine Dion's album will surely sell 10 million albums, I'm giving the least possibility on how many copies will be sold, and it will not sell lower than 10 million. And in case you forgot, a new day wasn't really promoted well, she didn't even had tours for it but it sold 16 million copies. So more than 20 million albums is possible for Celine.

[CSCfan]

Lol it really is not possible [anymore].

 

10 million is a LOT and probably the max these days (not counting downloads)..

[tcherno]

i think the key for celine dion's comeback would be:

- great songs, young and fresh so she will reach the new generation (the one of fergie, aguilera, nelly furtado...)

- PROMOTION PROMOTION PROMOTION (Tv appearences, awards ceremony, dvd of a new day, and of course WORLD TOUR) it will boost the sales of her english & french album (maybe a new edition of D'ELLES in next year's spring with some unreleased French tracks from these female writers cause i am sure they choose from many texts...)

 

i think with the release of the 1st single we might know the reaction of the audience to the new rock edgy style that celine will introduce to her fans...instead of the ballads (which i really love)

 

good luck.... time will answer all our questions... hope the best comeback and the best sales and MEDIA coverage... for this new english album & TOUR & DVD...

 

Celine says she is NOT INTERESTED IN THE NUMBER OF SALES of her album. do u believe her? i think she still interested in the number of sales

Edited July 14, 2007 at 08:19 PM by tcherno

[RLAAMJR.]

Lol it really is not possible [anymore].

 

10 million is a LOT and probably the max these days (not counting downloads)..

 

Well, it's up to you if you won't believe me. 10 million copies is just for the fans and those who will like her, especially that she'll be going on tours.

 

Like what i've told you before, A new day has come wasn't really promoted well and sold 16 million copies, most especially the One Heart album, w/o even a hit still sold 8 million copies.

 

And miracle was just 5 million copies because the album is not really for all ages. This album are for kids. kind of.

[thevoice]

i would sign right here and now on 10 million copies ...not because i i think celine cant sell even more but because i know who we r dealing with here - sony

yes most artists including the big ones cant sell even 10 million copies this days but celine always sold more than the rest and even today there r few lucky ones with a decent record label who pass the 10 million mark .

 

i truely find it hard to believe she'll sell 10 million copies , probably not even 5

[RLAAMJR.]

i would sign right here and now on 10 million copies ...not because i i think celine cant sell even more but because i know who we r dealing with here - sony

yes most artists including the big ones cant sell even 10 million copies this days but celine always sold more than the rest and even today there r few lucky ones with a decent record label who pass the 10 million mark .

 

i truely find it hard to believe she'll sell 10 million copies , probably not even 5

 

D'elles didn't sold well but because it was dedicated for women, the album is still considered an album that sold well. Besides, the album is just about 3 months old.

 

Do you know what year was miracle released and to whom it is dedicated? and still sold 5 MILLION? I would like to repeat it again. MIRACLE STILL SOLD 5 MILLION COPIES.

 

A new day... and collectors' edition didn't sold well 'cos the first one was taken from the las vegas show and the 2nd was not made well ( there were errors printed in the collectors' album) and wasn't promoted.

 

Celine Dion's upcoming album is for everybody, her comeback will will excite people WORLDWIDE. The dormant Celine Dion fans will be active again. And the touring will really help Celine sell more copies.

[Nmj]

All I Know Is That Celine is going to have a hard time if the English CD is up to par..

 

No matter how Much I Love Celine ...Mariah and Janet are HOT right now in the music industry so for Celine to mantain the top she has to have somthing young and catchy for her first single and then I can see it, Celine cleaning up the awards and winning Album of the Year and Artist of the year, so it could be a great year for Celine but the team has to promote well...!

-Nmj

 

hmm is Janet that hot?? I thought her last album flopped beyond Glitter! And as for Mariah... I thought she had to cancel concert because of lack of sales! and as for Whitney... she's still umh yeah still doing what? lol!

 

Nelly Furtado, Ryanna, Fergy , Gwen Stefanie... they are the hot female 'artists' right now...Janet, Mariah and Whitney only got their fanbase left!

 

Oh and Brenda... the first single of an album doesn't say everything... there are loads of artists who have a big big nr 1 single... but the rest of the album sucks!

 

 

By Hot i dont mean looks, but Janet is a huge household name like Celine was from the FIY Album and The LTAL Ablum...Everybody knows Janet from The Superbowl (UNaccident of you asked me) but the younger generation doesent know Celine anymore or think she is not hip like Mariah or Janet....Im sorry to even say this because I obvisouly Love Celine she without a doubt is my favorite singer in the world...But Celine in General has a more Grown up fan base ...eventhough Im only 16 But Celine was in my family since she started in French.

 

But Like i Said before...Celine can have a way with the younger crowd too if she wants...I think working with Timbaland and Neyo proves that because thats what is popular right now. BUT PROMOTION is key...Celine needs to do a little of traveling ( i dont mean to tour) She needs to sing in Awards as many as she can she needs people to wacth her CBS special A New Day... when it's on...and maybe do a comeo on a popular TV show Like AMerican Idol anything she can do...Deep down the hard Celine critics know Hoe Great she is but need to see Celine as a singer that just wont go away.

 

-Nmj

Edited July 14, 2007 at 08:30 PM by Nmj

[Céline's Blues]

For the first Céline should be only with competition with herself and only herself but unfortunately the market dictates different laws and she has to adhere to them this or that way. She will be better off commercially cuzz now she'll be promoting the album the standard Celine way - by touring and that's why it will sell reasonably well.

 

Mariah and others may be competition but Sony did well this time advancing the release date one week before Mariah so that Céline can secure the top spot easily. They need a good song to catch attention and Céline as always will do the promo. Sony never did a thing NEVER EVER.

[thevoice]

i would sign right here and now on 10 million copies ...not because i i think celine cant sell even more but because i know who we r dealing with here - sony

yes most artists including the big ones cant sell even 10 million copies this days but celine always sold more than the rest and even today there r few lucky ones with a decent record label who pass the 10 million mark .

 

i truely find it hard to believe she'll sell 10 million copies , probably not even 5

 

D'elles didn't sold well but because it was dedicated for women, the album is still considered an album that sold well. Besides, the album is just about 3 months old.

 

Do you know what year was miracle released and to whom it is dedicated? and still sold 5 MILLION? I would like to repeat it again. MIRACLE STILL SOLD 5 MILLION COPIES.

 

A new day... and collectors' edition didn't sold well 'cos the first one was taken from the las vegas show and the 2nd was not made well ( there were errors printed in the collectors' album) and wasn't promoted.

 

Celine Dion's upcoming album is for everybody, her comeback will will excite people WORLDWIDE. The dormant Celine Dion fans will be active again. And the touring will really help Celine sell more copies.

 

there is not one true fact in your post . DELLES not selling well doesnt have anything to do with the concept - it has everything to do with the fact that there is zero promotion

and she never sold 5 million copies from MIRACLE , try 1 million maybe 1.5

[RLAAMJR.]

i would sign right here and now on 10 million copies ...not because i i think celine cant sell even more but because i know who we r dealing with here - sony

yes most artists including the big ones cant sell even 10 million copies this days but celine always sold more than the rest and even today there r few lucky ones with a decent record label who pass the 10 million mark .

 

i truely find it hard to believe she'll sell 10 million copies , probably not even 5

 

D'elles didn't sold well but because it was dedicated for women, the album is still considered an album that sold well. Besides, the album is just about 3 months old.

 

Do you know what year was miracle released and to whom it is dedicated? and still sold 5 MILLION? I would like to repeat it again. MIRACLE STILL SOLD 5 MILLION COPIES.

 

A new day... and collectors' edition didn't sold well 'cos the first one was taken from the las vegas show and the 2nd was not made well ( there were errors printed in the collectors' album) and wasn't promoted.

 

Celine Dion's upcoming album is for everybody, her comeback will will excite people WORLDWIDE. The dormant Celine Dion fans will be active again. And the touring will really help Celine sell more copies.

 

there is not one true fact in your post . DELLES not selling well doesnt have anything to do with the concept - it has everything to do with the fact that there is zero promotion

and she never sold 5 million copies from MIRACLE , try 1 million maybe 1.5

 

In wikipedia , it shows that Celine's "miracle" album sold only 3.5 million copies and that's the least number that i saw for how many copies have been sold for Miracle. Though most websites that i go stated, it sold 5 million copies, then let's just say then that it just sold 3.5 million copies. 3.5 million copies is still big since it is for a particular group only. Only a few even heard that Celine released this album in other countries, including my country.

[CSCfan]

Miracle did NOT sell 5 million, ANHDC did NOT sell 16 million (more like 10-12).

 

Sorry, but those are really not the facts. And how many times does this need to be mentioned: Wikipedia can't be trusted 100%. Also, like mentioned previously, if one has an album selling 5 million copies these days, it's already a hit.

Edited July 14, 2007 at 08:52 PM by CSCfan

[Nmj]

By Hot i dont mean looks, but Janet is a huge household name like Celine was from the FIY Album and The LTAL Ablum...Everybody knows Janet from The Superbowl (UNaccident of you asked me) but the younger generation doesent know Celine anymore or think she is not hip like Mariah or Janet....Im sorry to even say this because I obvisouly Love Celine she without a doubt is my favorite singer in the world...But Celine in General has a more Grown up fan base ...eventhough Im only 16 But Celine was in my family since she started in French.

 

But Like i Said before...Celine can have a way with the younger crowd too if she wants...I think working with Timbaland and Neyo proves that because thats what is popular right now. BUT PROMOTION is key...Celine needs to do a little of traveling ( i dont mean to tour) She needs to sing in Awards as many as she can she needs people to wacth her CBS special A New Day... when it's on...and maybe do a comeo on a popular TV show Like AMerican Idol anything she can do...Deep down the hard Celine critics know Hoe Great she is but need to see Celine as a singer that just wont go away.

 

That's what needs to be done to be Sucessful... Those Numbers that are mentioned dont mean anything if She is not a hit in the industry.

[RLAAMJR.]

Miracle did NOT sell 5 million, ANHDC did NOT sell 16 million (more like 10-12).

 

Sorry, but those are really not the facts. And how many times does this need to be mentioned: Wikipedia can't be trusted 100%. Also, like mentioned previously, if one has an album selling 5 million copies these days, it's already a hit.

 

 

Tell me, how many copies were sold for the "miracle" album? The wikipedia is not really a 100% correct. And right now, I'm looking for the exact album sales of Miracle.

[RLAAMJR.]

Miracle did NOT sell 5 million, ANHDC did NOT sell 16 million (more like 10-12).

 

Sorry, but those are really not the facts. And how many times does this need to be mentioned: Wikipedia can't be trusted 100%. Also, like mentioned previously, if one has an album selling 5 million copies these days, it's already a hit.

 

 

Selling 5 millions copies for Celine is not a hit. It's only a hit for other artists especially that they make it a big deal if they could sold at least 5 million copies. Not like Celine. If she sells five million copies, and even 10 million copies, media doesn't really care about it. Only a few shows or newspapers would make a feature that her album sold well. But some would say it did not sell well because they are comparing it to FIY and LTAL which both has sold more than 30 million copies. And because Celine didn't really have hit songs.

 

That's why I'm actually mad 'cos most tv programs/newspapers would feature artists that didn't even sell more than Celine Dion has sold for One Heart. One Heart was considered a flop. a few people only knew the songs of the album. Despite of selling more than 6 million (in wikipedia, but in other website, it stated that one heart sold more than 8 million copies ), the album was considered a flop and not a hit. But for other artists, even selling more than 3 million copies ( like carrie underwood ) makes them popular already.

Edited July 14, 2007 at 09:58 PM by RLAAMJR.

[Dechen]

OMG, my eyes r spinnin from reading all of u guys' posts.

 

anywayz, i think Celine can sell at least 10 mil copies.

[RLAAMJR.]

OMG, my eyes r spinnin from reading all of u guys' posts.

 

anywayz, i think Celine can sell at least 10 mil copies.

 

 

Thanks for agreeing with me!(",)