max24 Posted July 2, 2006 at 03:07 PM Author Posted July 2, 2006 at 03:07 PM A L’Olympia:Europe 1.000.000France 300.000Canada 100.000Total 1.100.000 My worldwide sales estimation: 1.500.000 Quote
max24 Posted July 2, 2006 at 03:08 PM Author Posted July 2, 2006 at 03:08 PM D’eux / The French Album:Belgium 300.000Canada 700.000Europe 5.233.361France 4.408.800Japan 18.420Netherlands 100.000New Zealand 7.500Poland 100.000Switzerland 200.000United Kingdom 124.561United States 236.000Total 6.195.281 My worldwide sales estimation: 7.000.000 Quote
max24 Posted July 2, 2006 at 03:10 PM Author Posted July 2, 2006 at 03:10 PM (edited) Falling Into You:Australia 840.000Austria 100.000Belgium 200.000Brazil 100.000Canada 1.200.000Czech 10.000Denmark 100.000Europe 7.000.000Finland 51.053France 1.172.500Germany 1.250.000Hong Kong 140.000Hungary 10.000Indonesia 50.000Italy 300.000Japan 1.000.000Korea 60.000Malaysia 125.000Netherlands 600.000New Zealand 180.000Norway 150.000Philipphines 90.000Poland 200.000Portugal 20.000Singapore 90.000South Africa 250.000Spain 200.000Sweden 100.000Switzerland 150.000United Kingdom 2.270.000United States 11.724.000Total: 22.849.000 My worldwide sales estimation: 26.000.000 I will post next albums tommorrow. Meantime, please loo at those numbers and say what's your opinion.See ya tommorrow, bye Edited July 2, 2006 at 03:11 PM by max24 Quote
RRphantom Posted July 2, 2006 at 03:24 PM Posted July 2, 2006 at 03:24 PM Falling Into You:Australia 840.000Austria 100.000Belgium 200.000Brazil 100.000Canada 1.200.000Czech 10.000Denmark 100.000Europe 7.000.000Finland 51.053France 1.172.500Germany 1.250.000Hong Kong 140.000Hungary 10.000Indonesia 50.000Italy 300.000Japan 1.000.000Korea 60.000Malaysia 125.000Netherlands 600.000New Zealand 180.000Norway 150.000Philipphines 90.000Poland 200.000Portugal 20.000Singapore 90.000South Africa 250.000Spain 200.000Sweden 100.000Switzerland 150.000United Kingdom 2.270.000United States 11.724.000Total: 22.849.000 My worldwide sales estimation: 26.000.000 I will post next albums tommorrow. Meantime, please loo at those numbers and say what's your opinion.See ya tommorrow, bye <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Taiwan:650000~700000 for sure Quote
Bellamy Posted July 2, 2006 at 03:27 PM Posted July 2, 2006 at 03:27 PM SONY always tells FIY and LTAL both sold more than 30 million worldwide. Quote Please support the forum by ordering everything through our special Amazon.com link Click here. Thank you!
VinnyT. Posted July 2, 2006 at 03:35 PM Posted July 2, 2006 at 03:35 PM SONY always tells FIY and LTAL both sold more than 30 million worldwide.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>yeah u're right bellamy u can find also info about those 2 cd's on the dvd single of ANDHC Quote For Exclusive News "Like Us" on Facebook http://i44.tinypic.com/vfjwad.jpg click on the banner
pjsbin Posted July 2, 2006 at 04:00 PM Posted July 2, 2006 at 04:00 PM Korean Sales is better than that Figures.. The Colour Of My Love : Sold more than 260, 000 copies Falling Into You (Including Repack) : Sold more than 450, 000 copies Let's Talk About Love (Including Repack) : Sold more than 570, 000 copies Quote
Bellamy Posted July 2, 2006 at 04:12 PM Posted July 2, 2006 at 04:12 PM SONY always tells FIY and LTAL both sold more than 30 million worldwide.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>yeah u're right bellamy u can find also info about those 2 cd's on the dvd single of ANDHC <{POST_SNAPBACK}>And I always have no doubt to these figures. Estimate based on some datas can't be always right, sometimes too high, sometimes too low.I prefer to trust what SONY told on WMA 2004 that Celine had sold 175 million albums till 2004 not including her early French albums. So 180-185 million till now is reasonable. Quote Please support the forum by ordering everything through our special Amazon.com link Click here. Thank you!
max24 Posted July 2, 2006 at 10:54 PM Author Posted July 2, 2006 at 10:54 PM Do you want official informations??? Ok, here you have it but you'll see they lead to confiuson: 1) From Celine's official site news archives section (November 26, 1997): "After a 15-year professional career and sales of more than 50 million albums in the past five years, Celine is widely recognized" 2) From Billboard: Celine Dion: A Decade of Stardom By Chuck Taylor (December 15, 1999): "In that time, she has sold 100 million records worldwide, according to label Epic/550 Music, including 27 million copies of each of her last two English-language albums". 3) From Celine's official site news archives section (January 5, 2000): "Her worldwide sales are shooting past 110 million units and counting" 4) From Celine’s official website "The Collector's Series Volume One" page (October 2000): "After recording nearly 200 songs in four different languages and selling over 130,000,000 units worldwide in the past decade" 5) From Sony Music Australia website (January 2002): link "140 Million around the world" 6) From Celine's official site news archives section (January 20, 2003): "During her spectacular career Céline Dion has sold a combined total of over 150 million albums" 7) From The Canadian Music Industry on the International Scene Article (mid-2004): link "Leading the way is Céline Dion, with sales of 150 million units since 1995" 8) From Celine's official site news archives section (September 13, 2004): "She has sold over 175 million records since the beginning of her fantastic career" So according to these articles she has sold: 1) between 1992 and 1997: 50.000.0002) till Dec 1999: 100.000.000 (including 27.000.000 Falling into you and 27.00.000 Let's talk about love)3) till Jan 2000: 110.000.0004) till Oct 2000: 130.000.0005) till Jan 2002: 140.000.0006) till Jan 2003: 150.000.0007) till mid-2004: 150.000.000 (counting since 1995)8) till Sept 2004: 175.000.000 It would mean that: - she had to sell 50.000.000 between Nov 1997 and Dec 1999 (possible)- she had to sell 10.000.000 between Dec 1999 and Jan 2000 (impossible)- she had to sell 20.000.000 between Jan 2000 and Oct 2000 (impossible)- she had to sell 10.000.000 between Oct 2000 and Jan 2002 (impossible)- she had to sell 10.000.000 between Jan 2002 and Jan 2003 (possible)- she had to sell 25.000.000 between Jan 2003 and Sept 2004 (impossible) What do you think of that? Post your comments please, thanks Quote
firebird Posted July 3, 2006 at 10:28 AM Posted July 3, 2006 at 10:28 AM I think the problem is that certifications aren't updated regularly. That's why they get those contradicting numbers. So it doesn't mean that she sold 10.000 copies between 2000/01 and 2000/10 but that in that time they renewed the certifications, and she has already sold 130.000 copies before 2000/10. You have also taken the info from different sources, and for example on the link of SonyBMG Australia it doesn't say where they get the info. Quote
max24 Posted July 3, 2006 at 10:57 AM Author Posted July 3, 2006 at 10:57 AM Ok, I will change two numbers:D'eux - 7.500.000Falling Into You - 30.000.000 And now I will post the rest of what I got, I will sum it up and we'll see what's gonna happen... Live A Paris:Belgium 50.000Canada 200.000Europe 2.000.000France 669.000Netherlands 50.000Poland 50.000Switzerland 50.000United States 11.000Total 2.211.000 My worldwide sales estimation: 3.000.000 Quote
max24 Posted July 3, 2006 at 10:59 AM Author Posted July 3, 2006 at 10:59 AM Let’s Talk About Love:Australia 420.000Austria 100.000Belgium 200.000Brazil 800.000Canada 1.400.000Europe 10.000.000Finland 97.121France 1.174.800Germany 1.500.000Hong Kong 20.000Italy 1.000.000Japan 1.030.810Korea 570.000Netherlands 500.000Norway 200.000New Zealand 135.000Poland 450.000Portugal 80.000Spain 400.000Sweden 240.000Switzerland 300.000United Kingdom 1.920.000United States 10.525.000Total 24.900.810 My worldwide sales estimation: 30.000.000 Quote
max24 Posted July 3, 2006 at 11:00 AM Author Posted July 3, 2006 at 11:00 AM S’il Suffisait D’aimer:Austria 25.000Belgium 50.000Canada 400.000Europe 2.000.000France 1.492.200Italy 20.000Japan 30.430Netherlands 50.000Poland 50.000Portugal 10.000Switzerland 100.000United Kingdom 100.000United States 108.000Total: 2.538.43 My worldwide sales estimation: 3.500.000 Quote
max24 Posted July 3, 2006 at 11:02 AM Author Posted July 3, 2006 at 11:02 AM (edited) These Are Special Times:Australia 140.000Austria 50.000Belgium 50.000Canada 800.000Europe 1.000.000Finland 27.326France 60.000Germany 250.000Italy 250.000Japan 504.240Netherlands 50.000New Zealand 30.000Norway 100.000Poland 30.000Portugal 20.000Sweden 80.000Switzerland 100.000United Kingdom 199.000United States 4.707.000Total 7.447.566 My worldwide sales estimation: 10.000.000 Edited July 3, 2006 at 11:04 AM by max24 Quote
max24 Posted July 3, 2006 at 11:03 AM Author Posted July 3, 2006 at 11:03 AM (edited) Au Coeur Du Stade:Belgium 50.000Canada 50.000France 600.000Portugal 10.000Switzerland 50.000Total 760.000 My worldwide sales estimation: 1.000.000 Edited July 3, 2006 at 11:04 AM by max24 Quote
max24 Posted July 3, 2006 at 11:04 AM Author Posted July 3, 2006 at 11:04 AM All The Way...A Decade Of Song:Austria 50.000Australia 210.000Belgium 150.000Brazil 250.000Canada 900.000Europe 5.000.000Finland 55.438France 735.600Germany 1.050.000Hungary 10.000Italy 300.000Japan 1.230.170Korea 95.066New Zealand 75.000Norway 100.000Poland 100.000Spain 200.000Sweden 160.000Switzerland 150.000United Kingdom 969.034United States 8.400.000Total 16.160.236 My worldwide sales estimation: 20.000.000 Quote
max24 Posted July 3, 2006 at 11:05 AM Author Posted July 3, 2006 at 11:05 AM The Collector’s Series Volume One / Tout En Amour:Canada 100.000France 155.300Germany 150.000Hungary 10.000Japan 100.000Netherlands 40.000New Zealand 7.500Switzerland 25.000United States 860.000Total 1.447.800 My worldwide sales estimation: 2.500.000 Quote
max24 Posted July 3, 2006 at 11:09 AM Author Posted July 3, 2006 at 11:09 AM There were many various comilations of Celine's early recordings. Some were certified, the rest is unknown: Les Premieres Annees:France 100.000 My worldwide sales estimation: 150.000 Les Premieres Chansons Vol.1 (D’amour Ou D’amitie…):France 207.500 My worldwide sales estimation: 250.000 Gold Vol.2:France 100.000 My worldwide sales estimation: 150.000 For You:Japan 17.610 My worldwide sales estimation: 100.000 Quote
max24 Posted July 3, 2006 at 11:11 AM Author Posted July 3, 2006 at 11:11 AM A New Day Has Come:Austria 40.000Australia 160.000Belgium 100.000Brazil 50.000Canada 600.000Denmark 100.000Europe 3.000.000Finland 32.117France 900.000Germany 450.000Greece 20.000Hong Kong 10.000Hungary 10.000Italy 270.000Japan 100.000Korea 75.117Netherlands 80.000Norway 50.000New Zealand 30.000Poland 60.000Portugal 120.000Spain 100.000Sweden 60.000Switzerland 120.000Taiwan 120.000United Kingdom 490.000United States 3.206.000Total 7.353.234 My worldwide sales estimation: 10.000.000 Quote
max24 Posted July 3, 2006 at 11:12 AM Author Posted July 3, 2006 at 11:12 AM One Heart:Austria 15.000Australia 70.000Belgium 50.000Brazil 30.000Canada 300.000Denmark 50.000Europe 1.000.000Finland 17.299France 300.000Germany 100.000Italy 130.000Japan 46.677Korea 30.177New Zealand 15.000Norway 20.000Poland 30.000Portugal 10.000Spain 50.000Sweden 30.000Switzerland 40.000United Kingdom 170.000United States 1.753.000Total 3.257.153 My worldwide sales estimation: 5.000.000 Quote
max24 Posted July 3, 2006 at 11:13 AM Author Posted July 3, 2006 at 11:13 AM 1 Fille & 4 Types:Belgium 50.000Brazil 8.140Canada 100.000Finland 16.918France 600.000Poland 30.000Switzerland 40.000United States 22.000Total 867.058 My worldwide sales estimation: 1.500.000 Quote
max24 Posted July 3, 2006 at 11:14 AM Author Posted July 3, 2006 at 11:14 AM A New Day...Live In Las Vegas:Brazil 6.100Canada 50.000Italy 25.000Korea 3.444United States 500.000Total 584.544 My worldwide sales estimation: 1.000.000 Quote
max24 Posted July 3, 2006 at 11:20 AM Author Posted July 3, 2006 at 11:20 AM Well, according to WMA Celine has sold till Sep 2004 175 millions albums. My estimations gives us 153 millions. So 22 millions are missing. I have know idea where they are. I know that my estimations can be wrong but where could I lose 22 millions??? Quote
max24 Posted July 3, 2006 at 11:31 AM Author Posted July 3, 2006 at 11:31 AM And the last two albums: Miracle:Belgium 25.000Brazil 20.500Canada 100.000France 100.000Italy 50.000Japan 3.509United Kingdom 100.000United States 1.000.000Total 1.399.009 My worldwide sales estimation: 2.500.000 On Ne Change Pas:Belgium 25.000Canada 150.000France 500.000Switzerland 20.000United States 3.300Total 698.300 My worldwide sales estimation: 1.000.000 I have doubts that 175 millions is correct number. But ok, let's say it is. So after Sept 2004 Celine released 2 albums: Miracle and One Ne Change Pas. I think they have sold together 3,500,000 copies. So that would mean Celine has sold till now:175 mln + 3,5 mln = 178,5 mln.IT'S IMPOSSIBLE THAT CELINE HAS SOLD 185.000.000 ALBUMS WORLDWIDE.It's not reasonable Bellamy.Because it would mean that Miracle and On ne change pas have sold together 10 millions copies - and that never happenned! I love Celine and I would love her to sell the most of all. But even Sony numbers lead me to confiuson. Hey, post what you think about all this? Quote
firebird Posted July 3, 2006 at 08:12 PM Posted July 3, 2006 at 08:12 PM I think the numbers for 1Fille 4Types are higher in France. 1F4T has been rewarded with douple platin after 10 weeks in the charts (18.12.2003 - 2 x Platinum 600,000) and it has been in the charts for 60 weeks, so it must be something between 640.000 and 650.000, because it sold a lot in its first year, and when On Ne Change Pas came out, it also entered in the back catalogue charts. Quote
max24 Posted July 3, 2006 at 09:05 PM Author Posted July 3, 2006 at 09:05 PM I think the numbers for 1Fille 4Types are higher in France. 1F4T has been rewarded with douple platin after 10 weeks in the charts (18.12.2003 - 2 x Platinum 600,000) and it has been in the charts for 60 weeks, so it must be something between 640.000 and 650.000, because it sold a lot in its first year, and when On Ne Change Pas came out, it also entered in the back catalogue charts.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Maybe, but you're talkin about 50 thousands and I'm talking about missing 20 millions I guess we'll never know Quote
Moleque20 Posted July 3, 2006 at 10:11 PM Posted July 3, 2006 at 10:11 PM Well, I have always been confused about Celine's sellings. Celine has sold 175.000.000 til 9/2004 and it is a fact , even though we cannot find those missing numbers. Probably her albums haven't been certificated in many countries (for instance CD should be 3x platinum in USA, ATW should be 8x platinum e.t.c.). MY estimation is that Miracle has sold about 3.000.000 + ONCP about 2.000.000. TOTAL 5.000.000 But Celine's previous album's keep on selling copies. For instance, 1Fille re-entered french charts last summer. IMO those "NEW" 7.000.000-8.000.000 million come from new+old albums. Quote Les étoiles tombent une à une. Mes émois sont de saturne.
firebird Posted July 4, 2006 at 09:42 AM Posted July 4, 2006 at 09:42 AM On Ne Change Pas:Belgium 25.000Canada 150.000France 500.000Switzerland 20.000United States 3.300Total 698.300 My worldwide sales estimation: 1.000.000<{POST_SNAPBACK}>I found this figures on chartsinfrance.net France : 1 (108.687) - 1 (70.581 ) - 1 (34.723) - 1 (24.158) - 1 (19.639) - 1 (19.137)- 1 (14.405) - 2 (15.000) - 2 (15.500) - 3 (20.000) - 5 (22.394) - 3 (46.076) - 3 (15.855) ( Platine- 300.000) - 6 (8.000) - 5 (5.835) - 6 (4.000) - 10 (3.500) - 16 (2.500) - 16 (2.000) - 20 (1.500) - 27 (1.250) - 28 (1.100) - 8 (3.750) - 8 (3.750) - 11 (3.750) - EC France : 467 100Canada : 300 000Belgium : 60 000Switzerland : 35 000USA : 6 000Portugal : 3 000 They have been poste on April 1st, so around that time she already sold about 900.000 albums. I doubt that from then until now she sold up to 2 million copies. Maybe, but you're talkin about 50 thousands and I'm talking about missing 20 millions I guess we'll never know <{POST_SNAPBACK}>No, and I don't search for it. It's too confusing Quote
max24 Posted July 4, 2006 at 09:57 AM Author Posted July 4, 2006 at 09:57 AM I found this figures on chartsinfrance.netFrance : 1 (108.687) - 1 (70.581 ) - 1 (34.723) - 1 (24.158) - 1 (19.639) - 1 (19.137)- 1 (14.405) - 2 (15.000) - 2 (15.500) - 3 (20.000) - 5 (22.394) - 3 (46.076) - 3 (15.855) ( Platine- 300.000) - 6 (8.000) - 5 (5.835) - 6 (4.000) - 10 (3.500) - 16 (2.500) - 16 (2.000) - 20 (1.500) - 27 (1.250) - 28 (1.100) - 8 (3.750) - 8 (3.750) - 11 (3.750) - EC France : 467 100Canada : 300 000Belgium : 60 000Switzerland : 35 000USA : 6 000Portugal : 3 000They have been poste on April 1st, so around that time she already sold about 900.000 albums. I doubt that from then until now she sold up to 2 million copies. Those figures are posted by Celine's fan who has made up some numbers (I know him already). Only sales in France is correct. Quote
firebird Posted July 4, 2006 at 10:07 AM Posted July 4, 2006 at 10:07 AM I don't know, but in Canada it has been certified 3x Platin in January 2006.And the thing with ONCP is, in some countries like USA they count CDs sold (so everything is x2) and in others they count albums sold. So if she sold 1 million albums, it means she sold twice as much CDs, maybe that's how they get those numbers. Quote
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