Definition of FAN...

[1Celine12]

Here's my definition of the word fan: A fan is a person that LOVES an artist so much that the don't care how the artist performs or sings a particular song or does an interview.

 

Why do I bring this up? Because most of you Céline fans out there are upset at the way she sings anymore. All you guys that are upset at her think she sings in playback. You have no clue!!!!!!!!!! If you are a true Céline fan then you would not worry about the way she sings anymore. We all know from reading "FK" that she doesn't take care of her voice like she did in her younger days.

 

WHO CARES HOW SHE SINGS.

Edited February 24, 2006 at 10:03 PM by 1Celine12

[Cambroneroj]

Here's my definition of the word fan:  A fan is a person that LOVES an artist so much that the don't care how the artist performs or sings a particular song or does an interview.

 

Why do I bring this up?  Because most of you Céline fans out there are upset at the way she sings anymore.  All you guys that are upset at her think she sings in playback.  You have no clue!!!!!!!!!!  If you are a true Céline fan then you would not worry about the way she sings anymore.  We all know from reading "FK" that she doesn't take care of her voice like she did in her younger days. 

 

WHO CARES HOW SHE SINGS.

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we all do ,the world does, im still a fan of Celine even tho she sings playback, hearing Celine sing live is something us fans like to see more often.

[Mozinha]

For me being a fan means love and respect. Means being able to enjoy and have Celine doing a difference in my life. Means enjoying Celine as she is, not as I'd like her to be.

 

Unfortunately there is so much disrespect around here with some "fans"...

 

And fortunately for me, I never wanted Celine to be any different than she is. I never had expectations about her, none other than she will always will be faithful to her and to her feelings.

 

That's why I love her so much.

[Lia]

me being a Celine Dion fans.. always looking forward to see her perform... I have nothing to say bad about her... She is perfect artist no matter what... She is a rare singer and I love to hear her voice to sing...

[thevoice]

i'm a HUGE fan of celine - for more than a decade .

that's why i remmember (and most of u dont) those amazing times when celine could actually hit the notes and sang live most of the songs in her concerts .

she didnt have any problem singing the harderst songs live without cheating her fans with pre recorded versions.

 

i'm still a fan but i'm also realistic - i know she lost most of the power in her voice , i know she is singing her hardest songs in playback night after night , i know that her recent albums suck and i know she became a joke worldwide - one of the reasons is MHWGO which she is still singing everywhere and in playback!!

 

having said that - i know that she is STILL my favourite singer ever , i would never forget those amazing moments and i can only hope one day she'll gain some of her abillities again , after a much needed rest from vegas .

i know celine would never be able to sing like she used to but even this days when she sings live and when she is taking care of her voice , u can still recognize her old self .

 

so i am a fan but i'm dissapointent and from becoming the best vocalist in the world celine became a great vocalist which is still great for me but it's just that i expect for more...and i prefer she wont sing at all if she is going to sing the crap she is singing for the last few years and in playback!

atleast that way i would still have my sweet memories from the past...

[nati]

My definition of fan is realizing the woman that Celine is, and when she's done her job for the night we should give her her space especially if she is with her son. Not taking her food without asking, and never complaining about how she sings or how she looks.(blonde hair) And never complaning about the quality of her CD's " A New Day...Live In Las Vegas.

[thevoice]

My definition of fan is realizing the woman that Celine is, and when she's done her job for the night we should give her her space especially if she is with her son.  Not taking her food without asking, and never complaining about how she sings or how she looks.(blonde hair)  And never complaning about the quality of her CD's " A New Day...Live In Las Vegas.

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that's a SCF that was seriously brainwashed .

[Mozinha]

My definition of fan is realizing the woman that Celine is, and when she's done her job for the night we should give her her space especially if she is with her son.  Not taking her food without asking, and never complaining about how she sings or how she looks.(blonde hair)  And never complaning about the quality of her CD's " A New Day...Live In Las Vegas.

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that's a SCF that was seriously brainwashed .

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That is rude to call to someone.

No matter if I agree or not with what Nati said, at least this person is not annoying everyone complaining about everything as some "fans" do.

[1Celine12]

We all need to realize that Céline's voice is not the best since she started Vegas. I think it's the "desert" heat and that she should seriously train her voice again.

 

As far as MHWGO goes, that song was played like 500,000,000,000 times or more so I would consider that a crap song, but I have to realize that's her trademark signiture song and she will sing it til the day she dies and beyond.

 

As for giving her her space, I think as well as some of you so-called "fans" do that René needs to tell people that Céline needs a well deserved rest. I really think that she shouldn't have done The View because to me she looked tired and all she wanted to do was rest up for her show after her break. She said in "FK" that she wants to take a year off and try to have another kid and do an outstanding album. She said something to the affect that she wants to do a Freddy Mercury tribute album because he puts so much power into his music and I think that would be perfect for her. She LOVES to put tons of emotion into her music.

[fred]

I so hope this is not a war making topic.

 

I think it is so bad when people go pointing "you are not a true fan". Then why are we here?

 

A fan who's not a "true fan" is a fan who doesn't care.

 

/fred

[kdw123]

I think a true fan is someone who will stand by Celine thru the good times and bad times and will respect her as a person believing that she is smart and knows what she is doing. We may not understand why she does something or even agree with it, but you still respect the fact that she does know what she is doing and has her reasons for what she does.

 

So many people on this forum are so critical of her lately. They don't like her voice. They don't like her hair. They complain if she sings playback, but also complain if she sings live and doesn't sound as good. They complain if she cancels shows because she is only human and sometimes gets sick. They don't like her albums. The don't like MHWGO, her signature song. They call her lazy. And I could go on and on.

 

This is one woman who is not lazy. If she was lazy, I don't think she would be performing 150 + shows per year, performing for benefit concerts, taping interviews plus recording songs and more. That is not lazy. She is a hard working woman who has a LIFE! Give her a break!

[Bellamy]

I hope some of the critical fans would also remember the higlights not only the bad(playback) times recently. For example: her duet with Elton John on the same day as The View, the songs she sang live during ONCP promo in France and Quebec...... Cause I think it must be very frustrated for those fans who only remember her bad times. I hope everyone would be happy for being a fan of Celine.

[Clari]

We all have our own definitions... we are all big fans, that's why we spend time browsing forums and spend our hard earned money on CDs, DVDs, tickets. A singer's worst critics are her true fans, because we care.

[Mozinha]

The problem is this all negativity is ANNOYING for most of the people.

I don't know about you but I come here for healthy discussions and having fun and meeting true fans. When I don't find anymore what I was looking for, I'm out....

[Leone]

I consider myself as a "big" fan - and that's how I feel. Nobody else have the right to tell me I'm not or to put it on a scale. There are many things I like with Celine - and some that I don't. It's only natural. Look at people around you.. are they always perfect and you never get mad at your.. let's say parents?? I don't think so.. Just like you can be furious and disappointed at your family, you still love them after all. That's how I feel about Celine. Yes.. she can do some crappy things.. I feel disappointed or sad.. but eventually I move on.. and remember the good things.

It lies in the human nature to never really be satisfied. We spend our lives focusing on the negative things (in our life and around us). And from experience it's more interesting for most of the people to discuss the bad things.. So those fans who like to bring the bad things up - I still believe they are very good fans. That's what I had to say.

[Clari]

The problem is this all negativity is ANNOYING for most of the people.

I don't know about you but I come here for healthy discussions and having fun and meeting true fans. When I don't find anymore what I was looking for, I'm out....

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Yes, sometimes it gets annoying. Some people go too far.

[rodney2004]

a true fan will always support no matter what happens.

[Cambroneroj]

I consider myself as a "big" fan - and that's how I feel. Nobody else have the right to tell me I'm not or to put it on a scale. There are many things I like with Celine - and some that I don't. It's only natural. Look at people around you.. are they always perfect and you never get mad at your.. let's say parents?? I don't think so.. Just like you can be furious and disappointed at your family, you still love them after all. That's how I feel about Celine. Yes.. she can do some crappy things.. I feel disappointed or sad.. but eventually I move on.. and remember the good things.

It lies in the human nature to never really be satisfied. We spend our lives focusing on the negative things (in our life and around us). And from experience it's more interesting for most of the people to discuss the bad things.. So those fans who like to bring the bad things up - I still believe they are very good fans. That's what I had to say.

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thank you ! that was needed!

[1Celine12]

Yes, Leone that was needed to be said. I will support her even if she screws up so bad that they have to cut her segment out of a show. She didn't get furious when things went wrong at the grammys, now did she? I saw the video on youtube and I was glad to see that part of Céline's life.

 

Yes she is human and yes humans do make mistaked and then we move on and get to other things that are more positive. I did realize that when that video was made she didn't get upset at any of the technicians that were trying to fix the problem. Yes, Richard Marx did have to play the beginning 3 times, but he seemed happy because he knew that thing went a wry.

 

What I am trying to say is that everyone makes mustakes and we just have to learn to deal with them as they come. Maybe we have to take a detour and go a different route than we originally planned, but that's to be EXPECTED in life. WE just have to deal with it "ONE DAY AT A TIME" as René is so famous for saying. I'm sorry for shouting, but I had to make a point about this. Is everyone clear on what I have said or do I have to explain it again?

[gizapup]

well, well, well... such a heated discussion

 

I don't think anyone can accuse another person of not being a true fan. People are different. Some criticise while they still adore. If someone doesn't like her hairdo, or outfit, etc., so what, it's their opinion, and if you don't like it then just ignore it. It doesn't mean that they don't love her music, etc. They're still fans. It's like among friends. You don't look in your best friend's eyes and say what a lovely blouse she's wearing when you'd really like to mop the floor with it, etc. You still love your best friend.

 

Just my two cents

[1Celine12]

Is that what you got from my post, neltado? All I was saying that Céline is human. I didn't say that people can't have an opinion about her, did I? No, I didn't. I just thought I'd start a topic about my definition of a "fan." That's all I was doing. Sorry if this got to be a heated topic.

 

Maybe someone should post a topic of her good things like her songs, show things like that so we can get away from this hatred towards our diva.

[changepas39]

I do not care how celine sings......we do not know the circumstances surrounding the situation....I LOVE CELINE FOR CELINE & EVERYTHING SHE DOES....GOOD OR BAD.....she's human like the rest of us....

[1Celine12]

That's what I've been trying to say all along from the start, changepas39. We fans need to realize that she is human and not worry about how the poor woman sings. She could sing in gibberish for all I care and I would be happy with it. I mean Céline has her faults just like the rest of us.

 

She has said in "FK" that she doesn't want to be remembered as the perfect little angel that her fans know and LOVE. WE all know that she is a perfectionist and wants everything to be perfect, but she also knows that life can't always be like that. She wishes everything could be perfect, but it can't.

 

Let's PLEASE talk about the positive things about Céline from now on.

Edited February 26, 2006 at 02:11 AM by 1Celine12

[gizapup]

Is that what you got from my post, neltado?  All I was saying that Céline is human.  I didn't say that  people can't have an opinion about her, did I?  No, I didn't.  I just thought I'd start a topic about my definition of a "fan."  That's all I was doing.  Sorry if this got to be a heated topic.

 

No, I didn't. I just understand why some people don't like negative comments. I don't have anything negative to say about Celine right now, but if I did, I would, and I wouldn't want others to think I'm not a true fan because of it. I didn't quote you, nor did I quote anyone else, thus you shouldn't take my post personally :wink3:

[Mozinha]

Well, you're here for just one day, I've been here since this forum opened and I can tell you how things changed. Recently there has been a boring and annying time when everything is so negative sometimes for no reason.

The thing is, not too long ago there was more positivity, thing were easier, people were all friendly. Now people are just negative. Soon Celine will be criticized for breathing.

 

I'm over and done with this subject.

Edited February 26, 2006 at 09:31 AM by Mozinha

[Célinefull]

Here's my definition of the word fan:  A fan is a person that LOVES an artist so much that the don't care how the artist performs or sings a particular song or does an interview.

 

Why do I bring this up?  Because most of you Céline fans out there are upset at the way she sings anymore.  All you guys that are upset at her think she sings in playback.  You have no clue!!!!!!!!!!  If you are a true Céline fan then you would not worry about the way she sings anymore.  We all know from reading "FK" that she doesn't take care of her voice like she did in her younger days. 

 

WHO CARES HOW SHE SINGS.

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Whilst I admire your sentiments, there is one major flaw in your argument, she is a singer, singing is what she does for a living, and if she wants to continue doing that, she needs to be able to sing, simple as that.

[Celine's Wife]

Good God, I'm not even gonna start, this is ridiculous.

[Célinefull]

Well, you're here for just one day, I've been here since this forum opened and I can tell you how things changed. Recently there has been a boring and annying time when everything is so negative sometimes for no reason.

The thing is, not too long ago there was more positivity, thing were easier, people were all friendly. Now people are just negative. Soon Celine will be criticized for breathing.

 

I'm over and done with this subject.

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I don't agree with the fact that you just inplied that because you've been here longer than someone else, you are somehow more qualified to tell us all if we are good Céline fans or not, as far as I am concerned, it doesn't work like that.

 

I don't understand where you two are coming from, Mozhina and 1celine12 Why can't people have an opinion that doesn't match your own? Why can't Céline be critisised? Do you want us to become like Mariah Carey's fans and believe that she is perfect even when she does things that pretty much suck?

 

I don't like the fact that you are pointing the finger at other people and saying that they are not true Céline fans because they don't want her to sing playback. I don't know why you have appointed yourself/ves the "Célinechannel police" and feel obliged to start threads telling people what they can and cannot post.

 

Like I said, I admire very much your sentiments, you love Céline, so do I! We all do! Sometimes we get upset that she can't be the perfect artist, but there is no need to get so upset about it! In the end, we all want her to be the best that she can be, we want her to be the best singer in the world and the most famous and popular, so when one of us feels like she is doing something that is working against that, we are going to speak about it.

 

I agree Let's not only talk about the good and let's not only talk about the bad, let's have a balance, and give her a break sometimes, because it's true that she can't support every cause and sing every song.

[Leone]

Well said!

[Krys]

F = Fanatical

A = And

N = Nuts