Why Celine isn't selling as well as before?

[rosebud]

And other major factor is: Céline isn't touring anymore. Sony doesn't promote her work, and she doesn't do that also. A few TV Shows in France and Québec can't be called a proper promotion.

 

But anyway, Céline doesn't care about sales. And you know what? Neither do I. I'm good with whatever she sales, if she continues to sing and record albuns that give me pleasure to listen.

Besides, she will always sell in the order of millions because she still has lots of fans. Don't expect her to sell 30 million albuns on each recording she does. But 5,6,7... I think that's a reasonable mark to think of.

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ur right i Celine doesn't worry about sells, she justs wants to sing, she loves just singing. As long as the fans celine has remain loyal then, does it really matter.

[delo3934]

you know what i think, it doesn't matter if she doesn't sell as much as she used to, heck no one has sold albums like albums were sold in the nineties. what's important is that celine does what she loves and sings to the best of her ability. besides she can't make everyone like the material she picks but i do.

[Mozinha]

I agree with all of you guys.

Nobody sells that much anymore.

 

Celine won't be selling 30 million anymore now matter how much she tours. No one sells this much anymore.

 

Selling albums doesn't mean the singer is loved or will have a carreer or is even good.

 

Celine doesn't really care about sales.

 

I couldn't care less about numbers, I care about songs.

[max24]

Perhaps, the first thing to say is that Celine is still selling very very well. Take Miracle, for instance! There was some promotion in the US but there was hardly anywhere else in the world and what? 5 million copies are sold to date!

 

Sony is just  . They really couldn't care less about the promotion of Celine's new songs. Although her albums are still sellling very well. ANDHC was sold 13 million copies worldwide, One Heart was sold 8 million  copies which also a GREAT result, Miracle was sold 5 million + many copies of her previous album are still selling well. By the time Celine's show in Vegas had been opend she sold 155 million copies of her cds (album only, not counting the singles!) and now what? It's more than 180 million copies! More than 25 million copies worldwide in about two years and a half! Isnt' that good? Yeah, it's not like used to be 10 years ago but times have changed! Lots of people download music form the web and lots of people buy unlicensed copies of her cds!

 

Her songs aren't good?

 

Don't think that's the problem. Every song she records becomes a hit whether it's some uptempo song like You & I (#1 in her native Canada and not a flop in the US) or some ballad like Je ne vous oublie pas.

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your facts r not true . MIRACLE sold around 1.5 million copies worldwide and ONE HEART around 4 million.

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R y'a crazy???? Cline has sold 5 milions world wide with MIRACLE. Only in USA was 1.5 milion copies (with the special book edition with CD)! OH is with 6 milion copies my friend!

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It's not true. Your numbers are fake.

[max24]

Celine's releases are under certification not only in US but in UK too.

Albums:

The colour of my love has sold in UK 1.890.000 copies but is cerified only 5 x platinum (for selling 1.500.000). It should be 6 x platinum!

 

All the way...a decade of song has sold in UK 969.034 copies but is cerified only 2 x platinum (for selling 600.000). It should be 3 x platinum!

 

Singles:

Think twice has sold in UK 1.234.982 copies but is cerified only 1 x platinum (for selling 600.000). It should be 2 x platinum!

 

Because you loved me has sold in UK 420.000 copies but is cerified only silver (for selling 200.000). It should be gold!

[sander21]

I think the main 'problem' is the promotion. In the FIY era I was very into the sales now it does not have my interest anymore. I care about songs and they re still very good.

 

Now that she's at the show in Vegas and she has a child she can't promote her songs like before. That's normal. Still i hope that's she's having a new number one hit. Maybe 'I believe in you'?

[Clari]

I blame...

-Sony

-Illegal File Sharing

-No Promotion

-The music that's popular today is very different, rap and R&B are "it" right now. Just look at MTV and VH1 there are hardly any pop videos just for a few exceptions. Even "lite" radio stations are trying to be "hip".

 

I miss the old days.

Edited December 16, 2005 at 07:58 AM by CelineSmiles

[Koolan]

I blame...

-Sony

-Illegal File Sharing

-No Promotion

-The music that's popular today is very different, rap and R&B are "it" right now. Just look at MTV and VH1 there are hardly any pop videos just for a few exceptions. Even "lite" radio stations are trying to be "hip".   

 

I miss the old days. 

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Amen. Music tastes have changed a lot, pop is dead. If only Sony would release as many singled as Whoriah. I also think the Titanic phenomenon did more harm than good.

[Krys]

I blame...

-Sony

-Illegal File Sharing

-No Promotion

-The music that's popular today is very different, rap and R&B are "it" right now. Just look at MTV and VH1 there are hardly any pop videos just for a few exceptions. Even "lite" radio stations are trying to be "hip".   

 

I miss the old days. 

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Amen. Music tastes have changed a lot, pop is dead. If only Sony would release as many singled as Whoriah. I also think the Titanic phenomenon did more harm than good.

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lol

 

yeah you are right Koolan...pop IS dead...jeez...come to think of it...the last Celine video i saw on tv was 5 or 6 years ago...after that its all the rap and hip hop stuff

 

we shall for the best that Celine does something extraordinary for her new album that will make all ears listen to the song thats playing.

[Célinefull]

I blame...

-Sony

-Illegal File Sharing

-No Promotion

-The music that's popular today is very different, rap and R&B are "it" right now. Just look at MTV and VH1 there are hardly any pop videos just for a few exceptions. Even "lite" radio stations are trying to be "hip".   

 

I miss the old days. 

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Amen. Music tastes have changed a lot, pop is dead. If only Sony would release as many singled as Whoriah. I also think the Titanic phenomenon did more harm than good.

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You make a very good point there! and not just about Whoriah (People! The woman IS NOT in proportion! her boobs are too big for her body!!) The whole MHWGO thing totally turned her into a joke or something, I don't know, but it was like she went over that line into overexposure and suddenly there where all these jokes and backlash on that song and everyone suddenly disliked her. I think that she has become something of a "living legend" it's like, she stopped recording after LTAL and when she returned her market was gone, which is really sad. It's like she is in that group with Barbara Streisand and Cher and others who are like relics of another time, that don't really apply to the mainstream anymore but still have crazed fans that buy all their albums.

 

Like, what happened to the Celine & René that you read about in MSMD? They where all about her career and making her a star and she worked so hard and then just was like, okay, we've done that know, so they stopped trying or something?!?

 

Another factor is that she doesn't use her voice like she used to, and some of her songs seem sort of over produced. It used to be that all of her songs where subdued so as to highlight more her voice, but her new songs don't really do that as much, you don't go 'Wow, her voice is sooo amazing" like you used to(Which is not to say that she sounds bad, just not as powerful and as emotive as she used to)

 

+also that Sony are evil bastards that don't deserve Celine and have never trated her as she deserves to be treated. Instead, they just treat her like a little cash cow that every year or two they squeeze and album out of, or they release another best of! Speaking of that, what is with the "Collecters Edition v.1" will there be any more Volumes? Did anyone actually plan that out?!?

[ky2k]

I think it's because she doesn't sing the songs she used to sing.

I still believe that Miracle was a big error with all those lullabies.I miss albums like Falling into you or Let's talk about love.Great albums,great songs.

[scallywag]

Well I agree with CelineSmiles. File sharing has definately lower the sales, everybody wants things free. And young people right now are all about being 'cool'. Rap. Hip Hop. Rap. Breakdance. And more rap. And one thing I find out is, hating Celine seems to be a trend these days, and *censored* such as Whoriah, , Hen, Bitchney and Hagdonna are much adored. Sony sucks. They wasted I surrender and a whole lot more of quality songs.

 

Another thing is pirated discs. Here in MALAYSIA originals are RARE.

[Krys]

Well I agree with CelineSmiles. File sharing has definately lower the sales, everybody wants things free.  And young people right now are all about being 'cool'. Rap. Hip Hop. Rap. Breakdance. And more rap. And one thing I find out is, hating Celine seems to be a trend these days, and *censored* such as Whoriah, , Hen, Bitchney and Hagdonna are much adored. Sony sucks. They wasted I surrender and a whole lot more of quality songs.

 

Another thing is pirated discs.  Here in MALAYSIA originals are RARE.

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oi...there are not THAT rare...Borders has most of Celine's discs

[Clari]

Blah Mariah!

 

I agree with Vic, the whole "Titanic" thing has done a lot of harm to Celine's image. People always think of "the titanic song" or the "titanic lady" .

[Krys]

Blah Mariah!

 

I agree with Vic, the whole "Titanic" thing has done a lot of harm to Celine's image. People always think of "the titanic song" or the "titanic lady" .

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whoa Clari, thats exactly the situation here in Malaysia

[SimplyCeline]

Well i think it is to do with the material she has recorded recently. A new day has come, sold more than OH simply because the songs on it were of a better standard. OH just scremed 'rush job' to me. I do like the album, but not as much as any of my other Celine CDs. I don't feel like she really pushed herself on that album, where as i thought " i love this album" when i got A New Day hAs Come. In fact, ANDHC relit my passion for Celine!

 

Also, she is not getting the support from Sony, but this is not a complaint related to Celine only, other artists (Barbra Streisand for instance, or Micheal Jackson.) have suffered from this lack of promotion by Sony. When One Heart came out in the UK, i had no idea. It wasnt until one night when i was sitting listening to the radio (clyde one, so quite mainstream in Scotland) that i heard this song and could have sworn it was Celine singing. So i went and really listened, and it was her, singing One Heart. the DJ actually really liked it.

 

If you live in Scotland, and like to hear Celine on the radio, you have a good chance if you tune into Real radio - they have played songs from Immortality - think twice etc.

 

Celine's next album had better get the support it deserves from Sony. But i obviously understand that her sales would improve if she were to tour again and really promo herslef like the old days. Because what enevitably happens is, fans go along and take with them people who wouldnt normally go or even admit they like Celine. they then leave having had their mind opened or, hopefully not, still not really liking her!

 

No matter what though, i will still be going out and buying anything that Celine releases becasue i simply love to hear her voice. So although i can appreciate the voice on albums such as OH and Miracle (which i really liked actually, the sound was so refreshing) i can easily understand why they have not sold very well.

 

 

Andrew

[Krys]

Well i think it is to do with the material she has recorded recently. A new day has come, sold more than OH simply because the songs on it were of a better standard. OH just scremed 'rush job' to me. I do like the album, but not as much as any of my other Celine CDs. I don't feel like she really pushed herself on that album, where as i thought " i love this album" when i got A New Day hAs Come. In fact, ANDHC relit my passion for Celine!

 

Also, she is not getting the support from Sony, but this is not a complaint related to Celine only, other artists (Barbra Streisand for instance, or Micheal Jackson.) have suffered from this lack of promotion by Sony. When One Heart came out in the UK, i had no idea. It wasnt until one night when i was sitting listening to the radio (clyde one, so quite mainstream in Scotland) that i heard this song and could have sworn it was Celine singing. So i went and really listened, and it was her, singing One Heart. the DJ actually really liked it.

 

If you live in Scotland, and like to hear Celine on the radio, you have a good chance if you tune into Real radio - they have played songs from Immortality - think twice etc.

 

Celine's next album had better get the support it deserves from Sony. But i obviously understand that her sales would improve if she were to tour again and really promo herslef like the old days. Because what enevitably happens is, fans go along and take with them people who wouldnt normally go or even admit they like Celine. they then leave having had their mind opened or, hopefully not, still not really liking her!

 

No matter what though, i will still be going out and buying anything that Celine releases becasue i simply love to hear her voice. So although i can appreciate the voice on albums such as OH and Miracle (which i really liked actually, the sound was so refreshing) i can easily understand why they have not sold very well.

 

 

Andrew

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i also think its Celine's style of singing too...argh...so many things that comes to mind when talking about this...oh lets just all be true Celine fans and spread the word when a new album comes out lets not worry about this stuff anymore, this is Sony's problem anyways...if Celine aint selling more albums...they are the ones who are losing money

[rogerionovais]

hi everyone! I agree with you when you say that sony simply doesn't care about celine's music... for example, here in Portugal, Sony BMG Portugal couldn't care less. when the miracle album appeared they did some promo on tv, but just for a few days... I just can't understand this kind of behaviour. isn't that wierd? at least celine appears in many newspapers and magazines... so, that is good. I just wish that celine could have the so earned attention that she diserves.

 

 

[Belle Céline]

i think alot of it had to do with her leaving for 2 years ppl became uninterested in her after that.and the ppl that are saying of if your a celine fan you'll support her.well obviously thats not doing any good if she isnt selling as well,just supporting her wont make her sell,she needs to promote herself and i mean other then selling parfums over and over and the vegas thing yes it was a good idea but if you live far away you just dont have the money to travel all that way to vegas and i believe that ticket prices area outrageous!i mean come on 200 for a good seat?thats crazy! i love celine but she is just gettin to expenisve its all about money now.

[Belle Céline]

you know what i think, it doesn't matter if she doesn't sell as much as she used to, heck no one has sold albums like albums were sold in the nineties. what's important is that celine does what she loves and sings to the best of her ability. besides she can't make everyone like the material she picks but i do.

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i agree with you delo she loves to sing who cares if everyone likes it or buys it?no one does except her fans and i love the songs she sings.

[Mozinha]

To tell the true, I only listen to Celine right now.

The music right now makes me wanna throw up!!!! I HATE RAP AND RNB, it's trash for me. I refuse to listen to it, period.

We all know Celine won't change her style to these kind of music, thank God.

We all know she wants to do jazz and rock in a near future and I believe she will be very sucessful with it because there is a place for this kind of music in the market, jazz and rock are timeless.

Don't worry about her. We must face it, the sucess for 96-99 is not coming back, the time has passed. She will now adventure into a new thing and I'm so sure she will be sucessful.

Never underestimate the power of Celine!

[Krys]

To tell the true, I only listen to Celine right now.

The music right now makes me wanna throw up!!!! I HATE RAP AND RNB, it's trash for me. I refuse to listen to it, period.

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girl, i totally support you!

[max24]

Here are all the infos about Celine's sales, peak positions, gold & platinum albums:

http://www.fraktal.gel-srv.net/CelineDion_ChartsHistory/

[Mozinha]

To tell the true, I only listen to Celine right now.

The music right now makes me wanna throw up!!!! I HATE RAP AND RNB, it's trash for me. I refuse to listen to it, period.

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girl, i totally support you!

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I gave up on music. I only listen to Celine, my old time favourite long songs and classical music now. Actually I'm addicted to classical music!!! Anyways, the day Beyonce won 5 Grammy awards (as much as Celine won for more than 20 years in showbiz) I gave up on music.

 

I also think that Celine doesn't have to prove herself with number ones anymore. She has an estabilished carreer now, she is in another league.

[incognito]

She's not selling as well cos her last English album was about babies and that's not the kind of thing that will sell big. And One Heart was wannabe-Britney music and it just didn't work too well for Celine. And because she doesn't get her hump her hump her hump out when she's on stage... that helps sell albums these days. apparently.

[kdw123]

I agree! I only listen to Celine! I don't really like all of this new stuff that some people call music! Celine is the BEST!!!! And she can sing!!!!

[Krys]

seriously...these music awards these days are going down the drain...the worthy doesn't get them anymore...only shitty RnB and Hip Hop artists

[Chin]

it's all because of Sony Music's promotion, no doubt! In Hong Kong, last TV ad of Celine I have seen, is the one for "One Heart" in 2003... how bad is it!?

[Krys]

it's all because of Sony Music's promotion, no doubt! In Hong Kong, last TV ad of Celine I have seen, is the one for "One Heart" in 2003... how bad is it!?

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i cant even remember when was the last Celine ad in Malaysia! the last one i saw was for ATW...

[nano]

People are more interested of seeing naked women shakin' their #ss on music videos and more interested hearing songs about sex...etc...

It's crazy to hear a 9 year old girl singing "Don't Cha"

 

Why people don't care about true soul and pure heart?? why people don't listen to music with personality? why people don't listen to Celine??

 

Times has changed..internet, piracy, the generation Hip and Hop, lack of good promotion, no concerts...these are some reasons Celine isn't selling as much as earlier..She will never reach the highest numbers..no one will

 

But one thing is sure..I will listen to Celine, I will buy her cd's, I'm not going to stop supporting her

 

She is the real messenger of music!