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[*Daniel]

For those who watched it, is it hard to watch? I would love to know what she going through but if it shows painful stuff then I'm a bit cautious.

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[mebe]

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[mebe]

I just watched the documentary and for me the most touching part was the Love Again recording session. It gave the song another dimension literally!!

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[rhapsodion]

tshlw, on 25 June 2024 - 08:29 PM, said:

Did you guys notice the different way she was singing Love Again right at the end for a about a minute? I really liked it, would not mind if she record a version like this.

I didn't realize it is love again until you said it.

[Mudo]

*Daniel, on 25 June 2024 - 08:37 PM, said:

For those who watched it, is it hard to watch? I would love to know what she going through but if it shows painful stuff then I'm a bit cautious.

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You can skip the last 15-20 min, that's the hardest part of the documentary,  the earlier part are mostly retrospective parts

Edited by Mudo, 25 June 2024 - 08:42 PM.

[Nmj]

I just watched the documentary for the first time.

WOW.

Now I know why many of those who saw the screenings needed time to fully process this film.
I will have to take my time to gather my thoughts.

I need those two big Tylenols…

[remykyes]

So I just recovered from the watch party. Good grief. I don't think I've cried this hard with something Celine related since Rene passed away.

Honestly, I feel so guilty about all the crap I gave Celine over the years circas 2008-2020. And I feel guilty that she felt that she had no choice but to perform for us... I know she didn't have a diagnosis for what was going on but if she had come out and said "I've been having symptoms x, y, and z and I'm taking time to figure it out" I don't think any of us would have said anything else but "Take your time. We'll be waiting for you..."

And THAT scene... heartbreaking. I need some time to process so I'll definitely have more thoughts later but I'll end with this for now... this better, at minimum, get an Oscar nomination for Best Documentary - Feature Film.

Edited by remykyes, 25 June 2024 - 08:55 PM.

[scielle]

PuraVida, on 25 June 2024 - 07:25 PM, said:

The English singer and writer Tracey Thorn watched it and said on Twitter:

"Had to fast forward through quite a lot that I found boring. And then obviously there are some bits that are extremely uncomfortable. I was left very unsure about it."

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[scielle]

Looks like it was also discussed on Lorraine in the UK: https://www.instagra...XFvNmR5dm1vOHVl

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*Daniel, on 25 June 2024 - 08:37 PM, said:

For those who watched it, is it hard to watch? I would love to know what she going through but if it shows painful stuff then I'm a bit cautious.

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Mudo, on 25 June 2024 - 08:42 PM, said:

You can skip the last 15-20 min, that's the hardest part of the documentary,  the earlier part are mostly retrospective parts

I don’t think it’s a great idea to skip some scenes as this documentary shows everything that is happening to Celine that she wants to show to the people and serves as an awareness to this “rare” disease and what it does to the body.

[jpatdeleon09]

I’m reading latest tweets about Celine Dion and most of the tweets are positive about the documentary and reminded them how great Celine is and it increases their respect to her.

Of course there are few “pretending they don’t sin at all” tweets. Like bringing up the Celinunununu outfits that she’s a satanist. The vaccines that cause her SPS, etc. you know hating and all. Like they didn’t even break one of the 10 commandments lol

Edited by jpatdeleon09, 25 June 2024 - 09:22 PM.

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tshlw, on 25 June 2024 - 08:29 PM, said:

Did you guys notice the different way she was singing Love Again right at the end for a about a minute? I really liked it, would not mind if she record a version like this.

Yes! The way she harmonized with her own voice at 01:24:50! I wish they kept that part in!

Edited by marc-02, 25 June 2024 - 09:38 PM.

[rpopowski]

I wonder if most people watching the doc will assume that what they saw is still Celine's reality today, even though things have improved a lot since filming.

The documentary is basically showing Celine at her worst before she finally got proper medical treatments so it could be misleading for general viewers thinking it's her latest status, when it's all from 2021-2022?

They should have added some text at the end to clarify things.. Something like Celine is doing better now and is preparing for a possible return etc. Or maybe just showing a bit of recent footage so there's no confusion

Edited by rpopowski, 25 June 2024 - 10:12 PM.

[scielle]

rpopowski, on 25 June 2024 - 09:53 PM, said:

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Weird too there was no end text shown at the end, kinda like you see in "based on a true story" movies. Something like Celine is doing better now and is preparing for a possible return etc. Or maybe just showing with a bit of recent 2024 footage

I think the lack of any of that, a neat Hollywood ending, is precisely what made it powerful. It’s a snapshot of a point in time. She had no idea where / if / how she’s going to emerge from it, and jumping from that headspace to “she’s doing a new show” would have discounted the years of darkness and hard work to get there. Would have been too easy and predictable. The grey area we end in makes it that much more impactful (and even more so if/when she does come back. So I, for one, am very glad it ended the way it did.
The Time Magazine review makes this point far more eloquently than I am, by the way.

[Mudo]

rpopowski, on 25 June 2024 - 09:53 PM, said:

I wonder if most people watching the doc will assume that what they saw is still Celine's reality today, even though she has drastically improved since then.

The documentary doesn't say exactly when the events are happening (2021-2022?), but it's basically showing Celine at her worst before she finally got proper medical treatments so it could be a little misleading for general viewers thinking it's her latest status.

Weird too there was no end text shown at the end, kinda like you see in "based on a true story" movies. Something like Celine is doing better now and is preparing for a possible return etc. Or maybe just showing with a bit of recent 2024 footage

She was interviewed on the red carpet of the NY premiere and she was telling the press that her condition is better but she does say that it's a daily challenge,  so even though she looks better on certain public appearances she may not be fully recovered to go back on stage mode. People were jumping the gun on the red carpet and telling her if there was a possibility she would sing at the OG in Paris, and she clearly told them that they were jumping the gun and that she still has a more or less fragile state and that she was working to get better but not 100% back yet. Does the documentary show her state today? I would say no because she found the right medication to control it and that is how she can go about her public life, but is she ready to do shows,  well, we really don't know what she is facing everyday, the documentary ended on a sour note, her condition flipped from being sore in the leg from 1 min to being paralyzed and screaming in pain in another min and being completely helpless, so only Celine and her team can really tell us when she will be back on stage.

[scielle]

Reaction from Sonia Benezra on a Radio Canada podcast (in French):
https://ici.radio-ca...c-sonia-benezra

Edited by scielle, 25 June 2024 - 10:28 PM.

[CourageProject]

https://youtu.be/enY...tMoriVKN3fbGQlz

MsMojo posting a Celine video yesterday is not really a coincidence I guess, they're too celebrating the release haha

Edited by CourageProject, 25 June 2024 - 11:05 PM.

[Ajax]

I loved it.
Loved all the French footages finally and the parallel with her actual condition. Love the woman even more. The end is absolutely brilliant. Great job from Irene. There is a lot of pudeur in this impudeur.

I cried all along assisting to the grief of a voice and grieving myself a voice, a stage presence I loved so so much.


I know she is doing way better. Her return on stage still looks for me impossible. And i think keeping the possibility open is a way for her and her team to help her keeping the fight, but they know.

Her disease isn’t enough to break her contract with RW it must be a close in her contract I guess ? Isn’t it already broke ? So she she just sing here and there the way she wants to and can.

[CelinesDIVO5]

tshlw, on 25 June 2024 - 02:30 PM, said:

As good as it was I wish it focused even more on her now and what she was dealing with, and then show some archival footage of her performing to show what she was feeling the lose of.

But to talk about the people who helped her go far and show a montage of some of those people I think at least could show the person who without his support most of if not a majority of us would not even know who Celine is, bothered me. Yes without her voice, her talent, dedication and hard work being foremost she still needed someone with unwavering support to open those doors so the world could hear and see her. If she had spoken English or even started when the internet existed it would be different but that was not the case. This is where I feel Irene fell down for me as she treated Rene as just the husband she lost. At least then talk a little of how that played into what she was going through and feeling she had to be strong for everyone after he passed. Instead of going the easy way with playing All By Myself. Also It almost felt like Irene and her team didn't even realize he was her manager. Why I wished they really just focused on now.

But the documentary was not supposed to be about that. And Celine has discussed the feeling of obligation of being strong for everyone after Rene passed. The documentary itself was not supposed to be about being strong after Rene passed. The topic of the film shifted after diagnosis and was no longer supposed to be a focused retrospective at all. Plus the fact that Celine herself thought the film was perfect as is, and this is what they released. I don’t think it was meant at all to be insensitive or discrediting to Rene. The focus turned literally to what and who Celine was as a human during production and filming. Period.

Edited by CelinesDIVO5, 25 June 2024 - 11:55 PM.

[duri]

I saw docementary twice yeasterday. The basic emotion I feel from it is sadness. Some parts are really hard to watch ... but I was pleasanty surprised it is very artistics. With Céline´ s words archive footage and scenes from concerts or private life, background music (very nice melodies from R.Hasa and Callas voice and Céline´s songs) all together very touching. Seeing Céline in her intimate world I feel she is even more close to us fans. It really is love letter for fans this documentary. Céline is real superstar and evern more real human being and that´s why she is so unique in world of show business.  I like so much The power of love perforamnce in documentary I saw so many videos on youtube from her but this one in documentary was so real for me this is Céline Dion ... with her  smile, facial expressions, gestures it gives me feeling like I saw her singing live in concert (saw her many time live in concert) or as I saw her in front of hotel in Paris or London. Irene is goog director that´s for sure.

[CelinesDIVO5]

marc-02, on 25 June 2024 - 05:45 PM, said:

Question: Before exiting the warehouse, she says: I must have liked one of these because I have four.

Does she mean she has four warehouses?? I was like, what? As if this was not big enough to store this much, and you have four!? ������

I think she was talking about a dress.

[CelinesDIVO5]

PuraVida, on 25 June 2024 - 07:25 PM, said:

The English singer and writer Tracey Thorn watched it and said on Twitter:

"Had to fast forward through quite a lot that I found boring. And then obviously there are some bits that are extremely uncomfortable. I was left very unsure about it."

How do you fast forward and be completely sure you didn’t miss anything? What an idiotic comment for them to make.

[mirage]

Had some time to proces it. Need to rewatch it again definitely, but so far it's a beautiful documentary.

Her vulnerability, the sadness, loneliness made me so sad.
The crisis was so painful to see, and crazy like Irene said in a split second. First she was like giggling ooh a spams, and another one.

As a fan, of all the archival footage they have there was a lot from LAP.
And sometimes I didn't like the back and forth between now and the old footage. Some songs I found quite random. I would have love more Celine talk footage.
But as I've read in some interviews with Irene, a lot of it wouldn't deliver the message.

I could definitely have done without the John Farnham part, recording the video for someone's birthday, and James Corden.

Would think of all the footage they had this was the best to tell the story?

And what's definitely my own fault, I've seen so many interviews and basically a lot was already told and shown there. So some parts had less impact, example the 'if I can't walk I crawl' quote

The recording of Love Again, if we only knew. Gosh we be giving her a hard time on her vocals but she was definitely struggling.


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mirage, on 26 June 2024 - 01:24 AM, said:

Had some time to proces it. Need to rewatch it again definitely, but so far it's a beautiful documentary.

Her vulnerability, the sadness, loneliness made me so sad.
The crisis was so painful to see, and crazy like Irene said in a split second. First she was like giggling ooh a spams, and another one.

As a fan, of all the archival footage they have there was a lot from LAP.
And sometimes I didn't like the back and forth between now and the old footage. Some songs I found quite random. I would have love more Celine talk footage.
But as I've read in some interviews with Irene, a lot of it wouldn't deliver the message.

I could definitely have done without the John Farnham part, recording the video for someone's birthday, and James Corden.

Would think of all the footage they had this was the best to tell the story?

And what's definitely my own fault, I've seen so many interviews and basically a lot was already told and shown there. So some parts had less impact, example the 'if I can't walk I crawl' quote

The recording of Love Again, if we only knew. Gosh we be giving her a hard time on her vocals but she was definitely struggling.


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I don’t understand the upset from many of you regarding the segment with John Farnham. This just happened to be something she was doing on a day that they were filming. It’s a documentary, what she was doing, was being documented. Plus, it was very clear how passionate she was about him and his music. It was humanizing to see her being such a fan of someone, and showing her own appreciation for the impact his music had on her life. It was a lovely, humble piece of the film.

Edited by CelinesDIVO5, 26 June 2024 - 01:30 AM.

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CelinesDIVO5, on 26 June 2024 - 01:29 AM, said:

I don't understand the upset from many of you regarding the segment with John Farnham. This just happened to be something she was doing on a day that they were filming. It's a documentary, what she was doing, was being documented. Plus, it was very clear how passionate she was about him and his music. It was humanizing to see her being such a fan of someone, and showing her own appreciation for the impact his music had on her life. It was a lovely, humble piece of the film.

Agree! I did not get upset at all with the John Farnham part. I actually enjoyed it because even before I became a Celine fan, I already liked his version of help. And to see her gush over it in this docu was a cherry on top for me. And yeah, putting that segment served its purpose well in the docu.

Edited by marc-02, 26 June 2024 - 01:40 AM.

[Critiaslux]

When I think how we feared a Sony paid project may be a sanitized déjà-vu documentary, how the opposite it is, such a unique vessel for a unique human being !
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Edited by Critiaslux, 26 June 2024 - 02:09 AM.

[kaye2023]

Nmj, on 25 June 2024 - 03:32 PM, said:

This must be Joyce
https://www.instagra...XY2d3h4ZjkyZg==

Aww, all that shouting, aggressive demanding, and blinding cameras flashes... must be nice for someone dealing with SPS. Her bodyguards or PR guide need to be on top of that, the new Céline needs to come with a new attitude/approach, she can't be the overly nice, overly accommodating old Céline, perhaps even skip entrances like this.

And that still of Bear, so chonks

[manu23]

Finally watched last night. The crisis scene was hard to watch, seeing her (or any human being) going through such pain is heartbreaking. And that was probably nothing compared to the seizure that broke her ribs. But more than the physical pain is the physiological one, knowing that you can no longer offer your best. At some point she says something like "I was really good" and you can see the pain in her eyes. You can't avoid thinking how much she has lost to SPS all these years. She probably wanted to record more difficult songs, do more live performances, more creative setlist, but she couldn't. How upsetting and how unfair.

She deserves all the love, respect and admiration she is finally getting. And I hope they find some sort of cure soon that allows her to come back stronger than ever.

Edited by manu23, 26 June 2024 - 02:42 AM.

[stevo]

From that interview- It’s so exciting and such a relief to hear her say the words ‘surrounded by this new team’ (John & Joyce & Co.) How she says they are giving her space and time and have patience, only makes me assume Platel wasnt all of these things all the time.

[takeachance]

Just after watching it , I cried throughout most of it. I am still wiping the tears.
I am so proud to be one of her forever Die Hard fans.
She has and is going through so much.
I am a Nurse and I see suffering a lot and I hate to see her going through any type of medical situation and suffering. I just felt so helpless watching her suffer and wanted to help her so much. I am so glad she has such supportive people with her to help/assist her.
She is so brave to show us what she has been going through.  She is such a strong lady and continues to be an inspiration to me.
In fact , Today 14 years ago I had my meet and greet with her in Las Vegas  
So extra emotional to watch it today. I pray for her.
I think she is getting stronger , I am ready to go and see her no matter what. Her voice was the best voice, in my opinion, ever given to this world and I cherish it and her forever for sharing her voice and talent with the world.

I am glad her beautiful and witty personality is still there. Such a raw view into what she has been through.

Edited by takeachance, 26 June 2024 - 04:08 AM.