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[Kristinaz]

maki_Dion-er, on 15 January 2021 - 07:04 PM, said:

I agree with this, a combo 2 disc release of 2016-French show with a 2017-English show would be perfect. And add Hyde Park as a separate release because it had such great vibe from the audience plus a beautiful sunset over that huge crowd, vocals (the ending to The Reason ��), two new songs never featured on an official concert released globally, and she looked amazing.

My point being that I am of the opinion we don't need to ask for just one show. A top 3 would be good. Or make the petition of a 2016/2017 combination like you suggested, a two in one.

You bring up a really good point. I am just thinking if they get back to us (I know I'm going too far ahead) and say well no we cannot release this show for (insert reason) we should have one or two backup shows we can request. They have to atleast be able to give us one of these right?

[remykyes]

Honestly, I'd love to have a "Colosseum" DVD set that includes each of the different versions of the residency (2011-2014, 2015-2018, and the FINAL show (WHY ISN'T THIS A THING ALREADY?!)) and a combo set of the 2016/2017 French/English tours. That would be the dream. My only problem with Hyde Park is the sunglasses during the first part of the concert. Other than that, I'd love to have that one as well. I can wait until Celine's done with the Courage tour (if it isn't canceled, and if it is then get us a release of it ASAP) for a DVD/Blu-Ray release.

Edited by remykyes, 15 January 2021 - 08:57 PM.

[Chantemoi]

remykyes, on 15 January 2021 - 08:57 PM, said:

Honestly, I'd love to have a "Colosseum" DVD set that includes each of the different versions of the residency (2011-2014, 2015-2018, and the FINAL show (WHY ISN'T THIS A THING ALREADY?!)) and a combo set of the 2016/2017 French/English tours. That would be the dream.

Kristinaz, on 15 January 2021 - 08:27 PM, said:

...I am just thinking if they get back to us (I know I'm going too far ahead) and say well no we cannot release this show for (insert reason) we should have one or two backup shows we can request. They have to at least be able to give us one of these right?

I agree with you about the Colisseum Boxed Set. It's the surest way to please allll of the fans. So let's ask for it! The worst that can come from it is that they say no or ignore us. Not much different than now, other than we can say, "Well, we tried..."

If we give them a list of our top 3-4 releases, and be REALLY clear what we'd like to see (features, bonuses, tech specifications, etc.), then there will be no excuses for them to f*** it up.


For example...

• 'Céline: Live at the Colosseum'
  
  • Audio/ Video formats & specifications
    
  • 2-3 different concerts
    
  • 1-2 bonus discs of bonus exclusive features
    
    • "3 Boys and a New Show"
      
    • In Studio: Recording new Playback tracks
      
    • Making of LMBTL & SA
      
    • Accompanying music videos
      
    • Recording with Herbie Hancock - Improv/outtakes
      
    • yada, yada, yada

• 'Encore une tournée... 2016-17' (or whatever)
  
  • Audio/ Video formats & specifications
    
  • 2 full-concerts:
    
    • French, 2016 - Live in Paris ... or Montreal.. or... Marseille)
      
    • English, 2017 - "Live in London"
      
    • Alternatively, Tyler suggested perhaps a "raw soundboard" style would be cool, where each song is from a different concert. They pick only the best performances... (If TC actually responds, I nominate Tyler to handle the negotiations )
  • 1-2 bonus discs (Soundchecks, video diary, tribute to René, etc. - and if a single city like London is picked, then the remaining songs that complete the ENTIRE tour setlist.)
    
  • Music video for "Encore un soir" ...
    
  • Yada, yada, yada

• 'Live in Hyde Park'
  
  • Various Audio/Video formats
    
  • Full concert
    
  • Fashion featurette: "Pepe, Paint Me a Couture Rainbow"
    
  • Bonus Material:
    
    • "Imperfections" & "Courage" music videos
      
    • the "Lying Down" music video (for better or worse)
      
    • unsold merch from Courage World Tour
      
    • "Play Me Like a Bloody Love Song" + recording sessions
      
    • the Phil Spector sessions
      
    • the "Live À l'Olympia" DVD (including lost tracks)
      
    • "10 Ans Déjà"
      
    • Actual water from the moon
      
    • Heart of the Ocean vinyl sticker, etc.

This is just a rough starting point, but like Kristinaz said, it's better to give them lots of options in case they make excuses.

Edited by Chantemoi, 15 January 2021 - 11:03 PM.

[stone]

Do they still release and sell new DVD's?

[Kristinaz]

Chantemoi, on 15 January 2021 - 10:58 PM, said:

I agree with you about the Colisseum Boxed Set. It's the surest way to please allll of the fans. So let's ask for it! The worst that can come from it is that they say no or ignore us. Not much different than now, other than we can say, "Well, we tried..."

If we give them a list of our top 3-4 releases, and be REALLY clear what we'd like to see (features, bonuses, tech specifications, etc.), then there will be no excuses for them to f*** it up.


For example...

• 'Céline: Live at the Colosseum'
  
  • Audio/ Video formats & specifications
    
  • 2-3 different concerts
    
  • 1-2 bonus discs of bonus exclusive features
    
    • "3 Boys and a New Show"
      
    • In Studio: Recording new Playback tracks
      
    • Making of LMBTL & SA
      
    • Accompanying music videos
      
    • Recording with Herbie Hancock - Improv/outtakes
      
    • yada, yada, yada

• 'Encore une tournée... 2016-17' (or whatever)
  
  • Audio/ Video formats & specifications
    
  • 2 full-concerts:
    
    • French, 2016 - Live in Paris ... or Montreal.. or... Marseille)
      
    • English, 2017 - "Live in London"
      
    • Alternatively, Tyler suggested perhaps a "raw soundboard" style would be cool, where each song is from a different concert. They pick only the best performances... (If TC actually responds, I nominate Tyler to handle the negotiations )
  • 1-2 bonus discs (Soundchecks, video diary, tribute to René, etc. - and if a single city like London is picked, then the remaining songs that complete the ENTIRE tour setlist.)
    
  • Music video for "Encore un soir" ...
    
  • Yada, yada, yada

• 'Live in Hyde Park'
  
  • Various Audio/Video formats
    
  • Full concert
    
  • Fashion featurette: "Pepe, Paint Me a Couture Rainbow"
    
  • Bonus Material:
    
    • "Imperfections" & "Courage" music videos
      
    • the "Lying Down" music video (for better or worse)
      
    • unsold merch from Courage World Tour
      
    • "Play Me Like a Bloody Love Song" + recording sessions
      
    • the Phil Spector sessions
      
    • the "Live À l'Olympia" DVD (including lost tracks)
      
    • "10 Ans Déjà"
      
    • Actual water from the moon
      
    • Heart of the Ocean vinyl sticker, etc.

This is just a rough starting point, but like Kristinaz said, it's better to give them lots of options in case they make excuses.

Exactly and I think it's also a good idea because I can see where they will take it they will say "well physical dvds don't sell" we need to give them options on doing digital release too and how it can benefit them and bring attention to Celine. A quick example a portion of the proceeds go to the charity of Celine's choice that way it gets her in the headlines and she makes money the label makes money and it helps her image too. Queen did this when they streamed some of their shows during the pandemic and they were all over the news same with Elton he released never before seen concerts digitally and it made headlines. I would not be against a paid event as long as it's made available later or someone rips it.

Edited by Kristinaz, 15 January 2021 - 11:39 PM.

[ryba]

Yes, let the campaign start! I’m excited

ps. I also think that giving them more options is a great idea, because they might have no idea what is possible cause they don’t think that far

[AdrienneM]

Chantemoi, on 15 January 2021 - 03:17 PM, said:

I wonder if anyone bought the Unison VHS when it came out, since only one of the songs had any commercial success ... Or TCOML Concert, since it contained sooooo many new songs ... And Live à Paris was mostly new songs and covers ...

The point I’m obviously making is that new/obscure songs are only new/obscure until you breathe life into them and give them a chance to live.

I’m so tired of DVDs with the same old arrangements of BCYLM, TPOL, IACBTMN, LCMM, MHWGO and, at this point, RDMH. Give it a rest, girlfriend!

My votes go to 2016-17.  Ideally, a double disc of 2017 with one disc French, one disc Anglo. Her voice was the best it’s been in a long time, the setlist was fresh, and I loved her outfits (with the single exception of that tacky, white, asymmetrical number).

The 2016 tour was also wonderfully intimate and carries a lot of significance for Céline (and her devoted fans).  If I had to pick one I’d say Montréal - we don’t have any official releases from Montréal, do we?

Oh no, worst outfit for 2017 HAS to be the massive garbage bag... thing she wore after Le Ballet

[tal-sh2]

2016 tour cause it was the best Celine Dion set list ever in my opinion.
The best we could ever got from her.

[Chantemoi]

AdrienneM, on 16 January 2021 - 04:13 AM, said:

Oh no, worst outfit for 2017 HAS to be the massive garbage bag... thing she wore after Le Ballet

Aw, well I ADORE the trash bag. To me, it seems inspired by a church choir robe, crossed with a Victorian mourning cloak and a parachute

stone, on 15 January 2021 - 11:34 PM, said:

Do they still release and sell new DVD's?

Of course they still manufacture CDs and DVDs! Vinyl records have made a full comeback, and now cassette tapes are being brought back from the dead. Personally, I still buy/use all of these mediums, and I even have a VHS player. ...And I stream!

Streaming releases are fine, but aren’t we trying to get our hands on some of the “extras”?? I don’t think you get those on Netflix if I recall correctly...

Edited by Chantemoi, 16 January 2021 - 10:37 AM.

[Céline RO]

AdrienneM, on 16 January 2021 - 04:13 AM, said:

Oh no, worst outfit for 2017 HAS to be the massive garbage bag... thing she wore after Le Ballet

Agreed.

[Céline RO]

The Courage World Tour would definitely be the most visually impressive show but I’m still hoping the tour will continue one day and therefore it would be too early to release a DVD, what if it gets even better?

[Del]

Shamrock_1982, on 15 January 2021 - 03:24 PM, said:

Celine is a legend and a completely different level and different class and her label and fans except more of her. Maybe 2016-2017 could be a bonus CD

I'd be perfectly happy with just the audio from the 2016 Summer tour.

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[guigafs15]

Maybe what I'm going to say is not the most popular opinion but I think you guys should keep this request simple. This elaborate requests, with bonuses and extras, audios specifics, documentaries and etc, as good as it sounds for us fans, from a business perspective it looks ridiculous, kinda utopian, fans exaggeration and, IMO, it would keep them to take it what you ask seriously.

This kinda things envolve so many people, a lot work, contracts and so much money invested to make it happen, with little return cause it's the type of thing that will only appeal to hard core fans... No one on the business will ever take that seriously.

You should just pick a show we don't have full yet, and just asked them for it, and let them decide the best and cheapest way to do it. Can be on a well produced DVD,if they have the money for it, or can be just a video on youtube, with flaws and all.

Keep the requests simple and easy, so someone in her team can look at it and say "ok, that wouldn't be that hard, let's see if we can do this".

Edited by guigafs15, 16 January 2021 - 12:29 PM.

[Chantemoi]

guigafs15, on 16 January 2021 - 12:27 PM, said:

Maybe what I'm going to say is not the most popular opinion but I think you guys should keep this request simple. This elaborate requests, with bonuses and extras, audios specifics, documentaries and etc, as good as it sounds for us fans, from a business perspective it looks ridiculous, kinda utopian, fans exaggeration and, IMO, it would keep them to take it what you ask seriously.

This kinda things envolve so many people, a lot work, contracts and so much money invested to make it happen, with little return cause it's the type of thing that will only appeal to hard core fans... No one on the business will ever take that seriously.

You should just pick a show we don't have full yet, and just asked them for it, and let them decide the best and cheapest way to do it. Can be on a well produced DVD,if they have the money for it, or can be just a video on youtube, with flaws and all.

Keep the requests simple and easy, so someone in her team can look at it and say "ok, that wouldn't be that hard, let's see if we can do this".

You have a lot of faith/trust in them, don’t you?
Remember when we on the forum were whining for glimpses of the recording sessions for Courage, and they gave us a handful of 60-second clips?

I’m not saying the list I made wasn’t overboard - it was intentionally so, and I would say comically so if you caught the slight sarcasm I laid down. You’re absolutely right that we should NOT start the conversation with a 10-page thesis, but if we have all of our “wants” handy (should they ask us for it) then we will seem more organized and we’ll have no one to blame for them giving us some something subpar.

The point I was making is that if we ask for more crumbs, we get more crumbs. Let’s ask for a substantial meal to get us through lean times ;-) I personally don’t care about BluRay or any specs, but there are fans that do. Surely there’s a middle ground between us here on the forum and Céline’s camp.

Edited by Chantemoi, 16 January 2021 - 01:11 PM.

[maki_Dion-er]

Giving them options of our top 3 shows we'd like to get is one thing, asking them for such overtly specific details is something I do think could turn them away from giving us anything. Going that specific could come off as demanding.

If we ask for our top 3 and then ask for special behind the scenes and making of features is enough. What we could also do to make sure they don't come out with lame 1 minute long features is mention how as hardcore fans 30 second clips of behind the scenes that we had to beg for doesn't give us the immersion all fans wish. Something to that extent, perhaps with less passive aggressive tone though lol.  

As for showing them there is demand we could do as I suggested in the other thread. We could plan a day (and specific time) where we go rent/buy Through the Eyes of the World and TCWT on youtube and leave a bunch of comments on the page.

Chantemoi, on 15 January 2021 - 10:58 PM, said:

I agree with you about the Colisseum Boxed Set. It's the surest way to please allll of the fans. So let's ask for it! The worst that can come from it is that they say no or ignore us. Not much different than now, other than we can say, "Well, we tried..."

If we give them a list of our top 3-4 releases, and be REALLY clear what we'd like to see (features, bonuses, tech specifications, etc.), then there will be no excuses for them to f*** it up.


For example...

• 'Céline: Live at the Colosseum'
  
  • Audio/ Video formats & specifications
    
  • 2-3 different concerts
    
  • 1-2 bonus discs of bonus exclusive features
    
    • "3 Boys and a New Show"
      
    • In Studio: Recording new Playback tracks
      
    • Making of LMBTL & SA
      
    • Accompanying music videos
      
    • Recording with Herbie Hancock - Improv/outtakes
      
    • yada, yada, yada

• 'Encore une tournée... 2016-17' (or whatever)
  
  • Audio/ Video formats & specifications
    
  • 2 full-concerts:
    
    • French, 2016 - Live in Paris ... or Montreal.. or... Marseille)
      
    • English, 2017 - "Live in London"
      
    • Alternatively, Tyler suggested perhaps a "raw soundboard" style would be cool, where each song is from a different concert. They pick only the best performances... (If TC actually responds, I nominate Tyler to handle the negotiations )
  • 1-2 bonus discs (Soundchecks, video diary, tribute to René, etc. - and if a single city like London is picked, then the remaining songs that complete the ENTIRE tour setlist.)
    
  • Music video for "Encore un soir" ...
    
  • Yada, yada, yada

• 'Live in Hyde Park'
  
  • Various Audio/Video formats
    
  • Full concert
    
  • Fashion featurette: "Pepe, Paint Me a Couture Rainbow"
    
  • Bonus Material:
    
    • "Imperfections" & "Courage" music videos
      
    • the "Lying Down" music video (for better or worse)
      
    • unsold merch from Courage World Tour
      
    • "Play Me Like a Bloody Love Song" + recording sessions
      
    • the Phil Spector sessions
      
    • the "Live À l'Olympia" DVD (including lost tracks)
      
    • "10 Ans Déjà"
      
    • Actual water from the moon
      
    • Heart of the Ocean vinyl sticker, etc.

This is just a rough starting point, but like Kristinaz said, it's better to give them lots of options in case they make excuses.

Edited by maki_Dion-er, 16 January 2021 - 01:33 PM.

[guigafs15]

Chantemoi, on 16 January 2021 - 01:08 PM, said:

You have a lot of faith/trust in them, don’t you?
Remember when we on the forum were whining for glimpses of the recording sessions for Courage, and they gave us a handful of 60-second clips?

I’m not saying the list I made wasn’t overboard - it was intentionally so, and I would say comically so if you caught the slight sarcasm I laid down. You’re absolutely right that we should NOT start the conversation with a 10-page thesis, but if we have all of our “wants” handy (should they ask us for it) then we will seem more organized and we’ll have no one to blame for them giving us some something subpar.

The point I was making is that if we ask for more crumbs, we get more crumbs. Let’s ask for a substantial meal to get us through lean times ;-) I personally don’t care about BluRay or any specs, but there are fans that do. Surely there’s a middle ground between us here on the forum and Céline’s camp.

That's not the point. It's not about having faith in them or not. If you ask for too much, you will end up with nothing, that's the thing.

If a homeless guy approaches you on the streets and ask you for a dime, you'll might consider paying. If he, otherwise, asks you to paid a rent for him for a year, you might think he's crazy.

The problem with the idea, IMO, it's that you putting we, as fans, in the same level of her team and label, like this is a negotiation. But it's not. We are in here asking for something that would probably make them lose money. We're the homeless guy.

Fan base of artists like Mariah, Britney and Madonna got what they asked for because was simple and direct. It was a single, or a video, some even an album, that's it. Something you can put on a simple hashtag  and make it viral to caught media attention.

It might not be the perfection some hope for, but something it's better than nothing, and with the high costs of what you guys are asking, nothing is what we will get.

But this is just my opinion, I'm no expert and you don't need to agreed with me.

[Kristinaz]

Look I went through this on my own in private years ago(I never told anyone why do you think I was in Vegas so much people?) and what I got was well we do want to film it but we don't know if we can release it  due to copyright on this and this (I call total crapola on that one as many of the songs she covered in Vegas were the same she covered on TCT) hence why I suggested we give them a few options.

They cannot give us the same excuse for every show because not every show has the exact same list. I personally don't need bonus features I just want the show period. I also know because I think it happened with someone else who asked years back that they will slam us with the physical release excuse hence why I thought up the digital release version to have on hand. I believe this is how Hilary Duff fans got one of her tours released. Label wouldn't put it out physically but negotiated to sell it digitally.

Also last suggestion if they do hit us with the "covers and copyrights" crap we can atleast make it known they can take out the songs they cannot get copyright to which I assume are the covers like the Queen and Prince songs and the god awful one I hated You're the Voice then all that's left is her songs I don't see how she cannot obtain copyright on her own material though I heard something happened between Shakira and her label in regards to dvd release due to song copyright but she aired it on tv which is still good enough for me. Anyways long story short I think for now we should start simple with a few back ups if we do get their attention and they are willing to hear us out maybe then we can elaborate?

Edited by Kristinaz, 16 January 2021 - 03:03 PM.

[Tyler1991]

Shamrock_1982, on 15 January 2021 - 10:24 AM, said:

2016-2017 would only appeal to the die hards though, they need to make a lot of money

This sort of thinking is probably representative of who they have in charge of setlists and tours and why we are always receiving such s***.

I agree with you on 2016 but 2017 was not a show to only be appreciated by big fans, but rather anyone. I think the biggest fans appreciate what they did with the rarely performed songs and ditching playback tracks on 6 usual playbacks BUT how can one look at this setlist, see every big song of celine minus wdmhbn, and say "eh only for diehards" ....i mean, do you need 12 more covers for it to be more celine like??

I dont think its even possible for any celine fan to dislike the 2017 tour setlist and think something else is more representative of celine. It literally does not get any more celine than that setlist.

And we need an ariana style release where they choose differently concerts for different songs. No one concert is the best of every song. Give us the best and most complete setlist by picking audios from different shows.

Edited by Tyler1991, 16 January 2021 - 02:53 PM.

[SuperLove4Celine]

Shamrock_1982, on 15 January 2021 - 03:24 PM, said:

She has a terrible voice.. sounds like a chipmunk on helium.... great songs but that bloody voice... her fans obviously don't demand or except much from her except from a drunken dance on a dance floor with a catchy dance routine or a go on a karaoke machine when bladdered, bless her... but she seems to get by which is incredible... each to their own.

Celine is a legend and a completely different level and different class and her label and fans except more of her. Maybe 2016-2017 could be a bonus CD

I usually support most of the posts you write, but this one has got to be one of the most disrespectful, moronic, jealousy-infused things I've read on here in a long while. If she's not your kind of singer, that's fine. However, to drone on about her sounding like a chipmunk, and that she's only able to get by with "drunken [dances]" is absolutely absurd.

[SuperLove4Celine]

Tyler1991, on 16 January 2021 - 02:52 PM, said:

This sort of thinking is probably representative of who they have in charge of setlists and tours and why we are always receiving such s***.

I agree with you on 2016 but 2017 was not a show to only be appreciated by big fans, but rather anyone. I think the biggest fans appreciate what they did with the rarely performed songs and ditching playback tracks on 6 usual playbacks BUT how can one look at this setlist, see every big song of celine minus wdmhbn, and say "eh only for diehards" ....i mean, do you need 12 more covers for it to be more celine like??

I dont think its even possible for any celine fan to dislike the 2017 tour setlist and think something else is more representative of celine. It literally does not get any more celine than that setlist.

And we need an ariana style release where they choose differently concerts for different songs. No one concert is the best of every song. Give us the best and most complete setlist by picking audios from different shows.

Agreed. Honestly, if they wouldn't bother to include the medley IN FULL with "Refuse To Dance," "Love Is All We Need," "Treat Her Like A Lady," "Misled" and "Black Or White," as well as "Loved Me Back To Life," "The Colour Of My Love," "My Love," "Recovering" and "How Does A Moment Last Forever," I'd rather the 2017 show just not even be released. (We all know "I'm Your Angel" wouldn't be included for obvious reasons.) However, knowing her team, they'd surely screw it up and only include "the hits" and nothing else.

[SuperLove4Celine]

Kristinaz, on 16 January 2021 - 02:44 PM, said:

Look I went through this on my own in private years ago(I never told anyone why do you think I was in Vegas so much people?) and what I got was well we do want to film it but we don't know if we can release it  due to copyright on this and this (I call total crapola on that one as many of the songs she covered in Vegas were the same she covered on TCT) hence why I suggested we give them a few options.

They cannot give us the same excuse for every show because not every show has the exact same list. I personally don't need bonus features I just want the show period. I also know because I think it happened with someone else who asked years back that they will slam us with the physical release excuse hence why I thought up the digital release version to have on hand. I believe this is how Hilary Duff fans got one of her tours released. Label wouldn't put it out physically but negotiated to sell it digitally.

Also last suggestion if they do hit us with the "covers and copyrights" crap we can atleast make it known they can take out the songs they cannot get copyright to which I assume are the covers like the Queen and Prince songs and the god awful one I hated You're the Voice then all that's left is her songs I don't see how she cannot obtain copyright on her own material though I heard something happened between Shakira and her label in regards to dvd release due to song copyright but she aired it on tv which is still good enough for me. Anyways long story short I think for now we should start simple with a few back ups if we do get their attention and they are willing to hear us out maybe then we can elaborate?

I used to be like you. I used to be annoyed beyond words with those who would say, "Why bother?." However, I'm to the point now that I really don't care because truly...why bother? Both Celine and her so-called "team" have made it clear they don't give two sh!ts about honoring her legacy, the music or anything else, for that matter. All they care about now are the dollar signs. Which, I guess, is "okay". She is a business, after all. However, it just further solidifies she's a sell-out entertainer who only cares about money and fame than actual artistry and respect for music. That's why I've moved on to working with actual artists who care about the craft and not just the aforementioned stuff. Anyway, that's my two cents.

[Kristinaz]

For the admin to this thread or whoever is planning on putting all this together I thought of something can we get other Celine fans involved too I mean outside of this board let's spread the message to instagram and facebook possibly get other major accounts involved. The Spice Girls fandom got their campaign to get noticed by The Sun. The guy who owned the tapes before he handed them over to 19 Management actually messaged me due to the campaign to say he wanted to help us. So there is hope we just need to get people's attention.

SuperLove4Celine, on 16 January 2021 - 06:35 PM, said:

I used to be like you. I used to be annoyed beyond words with those who would say, "Why bother?." However, I'm to the point now that I really don't care because truly...why bother? Both Celine and her so-called "team" have made it clear they don't give two sh!ts about honoring her legacy, the music or anything else, for that matter. All they care about now are the dollar signs. Which, I guess, is "okay". She is a business, after all. However, it just further solidifies she's a sell-out entertainer who only cares about money and fame than actual artistry and respect for music. That's why I've moved on to working with actual artists who care about the craft and not just the aforementioned stuff. Anyway, that's my two cents.

I kinda see it in this manner:

If we do this and they still say no (and ideally I am hoping we can present them a good case with a good amount of interest) then I know to not expect anything else from them. I flat out asked in Vegas her people if they were going to tape it they told me yes they told me Celine wants to put her residency onto dvd as she did the first one (yes I never revealed this to no one because I couldn't at the time I didn't want to jeopardize anything) so when I went in June 2019 and they were filming I was beyond thrilled. The fact they filmed 4 nights to me solidified it wasn't just for promo use as other members here had claimed. When the info about her and Aldo came out due to the lawsuit I understood why the 2016/2017 tours had been shelved. Now from what I am guessing there is nothing at this point stopping her from releasing pre-existing footage which we all know she has.

(Please note SuperLove4Celine this next part isn't directed to you but fans in general who are questioning our motive and as I said in the other thread for those who don't agree don't feel it will work then please feel free to leave but let us atleast try)

One time during the 2016 tour Dave had been asked about this he told the fan there's no interest and physical dvds don't sell anymore and this is the problem. This fandom has fallen into this pattern of just accepting what they give us and this I feel this is why they don't see a reason to even bother.

I have been given excuses about it would be too much money this and that and they have to pay the band and on and on but you cannot tell me it's easier for her to re-release something that has been out 13 years rather then upload a show onto her youtube account and stream it for her fans. We act as if she is broke she is anything but broke. She is far better off then most of us.


I understand she doesn't want to be the artist she once was I get that I respect that but we haven't gotten a release since right before Rene's second diagnosis. They can argue with me day in and out quality the timing the money this and that etc I got the exact same thing from Sony years ago with MJ. Did his fans care what Sony said? Absolutely not they kept going and going till Sony caved and found a way to give them the BAD Tour. A tour which was never supposed to be released nor ever professionally recorded.

So IF they want and IF they see there is enough demand they will find a way to give it to us. And to those who say "let Celine relax" I am she doesn't even have to lift a single finger. My two cents atleast and I have dealt with tons and I mean tons of fanbases so I have experience in this and I have seen what pushing can do.

Edited by Kristinaz, 16 January 2021 - 07:24 PM.

[actofcontrition]

Dvd dont sell anymore bla bla bla.. so tired of this. When a tour is making like 100 millions profits you CAN’T use that excuse. Its nothing for them to pay a little to have a dvd for the fans that CAN’T go to her shows. Its called RESPECT for her fans.

René always said that a artist should never forget about the fans that can’t go to a live show. But her team forgot about this since he died.

[Chantemoi]

Even if the DVD cost $30 and is limited edition, it is still better than nothing, and you cannot say that’s not profitable. Anything will sell it it’s done properly. Furthermore, worst case scenario we get a streaming only release (audio and video), at this point they’re just sitting on a mine of unreleased treasures and day by day the most loyal fans are losing interest.

I’m so glad I’m on the forum right now, because I think we have a shot this time - as long as we are organized and have the right approach. But we have to work together and somehow boil down our message while being super specific what we want.

Not sure which admin is taking charge of this effort (or if it’s up to the rest of us), but ... I think if we compose a heartfelt and respectful email, vaguely describing how the pandemic and postponement/cancellation of the tour (as well as Céline’s absence from the public eye) have made right now the perfect opportunity to release some archive stuff.

Attached to the email, we can have a detail 1-2 page PDF that outlines :
• the multitude of content we’re craving—specifically
• the quality we expect (the best available, even if the footage isn’t perfect)
• how we’d prefer it (physical copy) and how we’d settle (streaming only or a one-time paid event kinda thing)

Presented this way, you cannot argue that we’re being disrespectful, demanding, or anything else negative.

Then we’d need to orchestrate the #hashtag and social media campaign, and/or the idea of us all buying a copy of a preexisting release to show our level of commitment.

Edited by Chantemoi, 16 January 2021 - 11:40 PM.

[Celine Fan 77]

Chantemoi, on 16 January 2021 - 11:39 PM, said:

Attached to the email, we can have a detail 1-2 page PDF that outlines :
• the multitude of content we're craving—specifically
• the quality we expect (the best available, even if the footage isn't perfect)
• how we'd prefer it (physical copy) and how we'd settle (streaming only or a one-time paid event kinda thing)

Presented this way, you cannot argue that we're being disrespectful, demanding, or anything else negative.

I initially suggested the idea on the Courage World Tour thread (I think it was Ryba who also mentioned it simultaneously in another thread), and a few hours later I created this topic with Davey's help.

I totally agree with you, the best way for us to present the idea to them is to do it in an organized and serious way. My suggestion right now would be to leave a few more days (maybe weeks?) for fans to keep voting until we have a clear winner. Once we'll have that, we could give them the 3 most voted options to choose.

What do you guys think?

[mirage]

I'm all in you know!

And yes, it's need to be detailed as much as possible. Because they can't figure it out by themselves.

Celine Fan 77, on 17 January 2021 - 03:09 AM, said:

I initially suggested the idea on the Courage World Tour thread (I think it was Ryba who also mentioned it simultaneously in another thread), and a few hours later I created this topic with Davey's help.

I totally agree with you, the best way for us to present the idea to them is to do it in an organized and serious way. My suggestion right now would be to leave a few more days (maybe weeks?) for fans to keep voting until we have a clear winner. Once we'll have that, we could give them the 3 most voted options to choose.

What do you guys think?

[ryba]

I don't think that we should wait any longer. We've discussed all the aspects and members who are here on a regular basis voted. There is no point to go around in circles over and over again. Let's write a good email and send it next week. Maybe we can post the email here and all look through it (even though I trust that it will be written very well anyway)

Edited by ryba, 17 January 2021 - 08:52 AM.

[nuts2you]

First off, I think we should nominate 1 person to handle this for us members ,  2nd who are you going to get to produce it. (like Julie Snyder ) AEG Concerts West,  I would think that you would need to go thought them first and see if they would do it for us fans,
Make it 1 big letter with all of signing it,
Can/Could we also do a Telegram it to them as well
Just makeing  a suggestion

[nuts2you]

I forgot to say some of us fans are friends with some of her bandmates  , maybe someone from here could contract them to see if this would work on not, and ask for suggestions on how to go about it from there point of view

[Chantemoi]

nuts2you, on 17 January 2021 - 10:19 AM, said:

First off, I think we should nominate 1 person to handle this for us members ,  2nd who are you going to get to produce it. (like Julie Snyder ) AEG Concerts West,  I would think that you would need to go thought them first and see if they would do it for us fans,
Make it 1 big letter with all of signing it,
Can/Could we also do a Telegram it to them as well
Just makeing  a suggestion

I feel pretty confident writing in English, but I feel this letter should be in French.

Maybe I could team up with a francophone?
Anyone?

Edited by Chantemoi, 17 January 2021 - 12:34 PM.