670 replies to this topic

[Chantemoi]

SuperLove4Celine, on 12 February 2021 - 06:40 PM, said:

Agreed. Nowhere in the video does it say what this video is about. It needs to have the final scene show exactly what the petition is all about, and/or have the request sprinkled throughout the video. It's a good start, but it's not clear cut enough. The editing is nice, though. I agree with that.

This was an unsolicited video made by one of our followers to create excitement. It is not an “official” video, but it does help spread the word about the movement and directs anyone who is interested to our account via our social media handles. If you follow the @SayYesCeline account you will (soon) see the official video that we are working on. Right now we are asking fans to post videos explaining why they want to see these concerts released officially; once we have those videos and have a chance to edit them , we will release the full video and send it off to the decision makers!

[anewdayhascome]

In my opinion Celine's fans are as succesful in social media as Celine herself so I would rather concentrate on preparing serious proposals with great visual content and send it out than to fight for social media exposure among general public who will not take part. Celine is not an Internet singer and only few People stream her do if she and her management can't change we will not be able either. It is worth trying but I do not expect much

[ryba]

I agree. Let’s not focus on other fans approval. There is no point. It costs too much energy and time. Instead, we must focus on reaching Celines immediate team and convince them to release footage.

I would suggest writing direct emails to their official address (all Sony branches and relevant representatives, as well as Feeling Productions and Celines Comanagement) while posting our videos simultaneously everywhere all the time and tagging Sony and Celine in every possible way. Also, attach the video (or links) to the emails. Let fans comment under the videos and request material in those comments. That’s the more effective path IMO

Edited by ryba, 13 February 2021 - 10:42 AM.

[PuraVida]

I think coming to the team with a signed petition (and proper video stuff, too, why not) really helps the cause.

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[couldawouldashoulda]

ryba, on 13 February 2021 - 10:39 AM, said:

I agree. Let's not focus on other fans approval. There is no point. It costs too much energy and time. Instead, we must focus on reaching Celines immediate team and convince them to release footage.

I would suggest writing direct emails to their official address (all Sony branches and relevant representatives, as well as Feeling Productions and Celines Comanagement) while posting our videos simultaneously everywhere all the time and tagging Sony and Celine in every possible way. Also, attach the video (or links) to the emails. Let fans comment under the videos and request material in those comments. That's the more effective path IMO

But these "direct emails" go to intern staff or staff way below the pay grade to actually get anything approved. Those emails are just going to be deleted. And tagging Sony and Celine on social media will reach the same people. No one who makes the big bucks pays attention to that stuff - they pay people to do that.

[anewdayhascome]

Instead of undermining anything we propose, offer your own ideas. If not, really do not bother. We all know it is hard to achieve anything here especially if even here people are so negative but at least some of us are trying.

[couldawouldashoulda]

anewdayhascome, on 13 February 2021 - 11:11 AM, said:

Instead of undermining anything we propose, offer your own ideas. If not, really do not bother. We all know it is hard to achieve anything here especially if even here people are so negative but at least some of us are trying.

I have no ideas. I don't think this is possible or reasonable. One thing I know, you have to have a plan to get to bigwigs at companies, not the underlings who run social media pages and answer general email addresses. That's just spending a lot of time and effort for a fruitless endeavor. I can't wrap my head around why anyone would want to waste their time and energy on something that won't work. But, ya know, you do you. If you've got extra time to shout at windmills, go for it! Don't get upset with people for pointing at to you that you're shouting at the windmills, however. You're just being angry at people for providing you facts.

[anewdayhascome]

It is not facts. It is just disturbing and wasting the time and effort on this fruitless discussion. No wonder that with such attitude it is hard to create anything

If you don't have ideaz then avoid this topic. That is so hard for you?

[Shaun]

couldawouldashoulda, on 13 February 2021 - 11:17 AM, said:

I have no ideas. I don't think this is possible or reasonable. One thing I know, you have to have a plan to get to bigwigs at companies, not the underlings who run social media pages and answer general email addresses. That's just spending a lot of time and effort for a fruitless endeavor. I can't wrap my head around why anyone would want to waste their time and energy on something that won't work. But, ya know, you do you. If you've got extra time to shout at windmills, go for it! Don't get upset with people for pointing at to you that you're shouting at the windmills, however. You're just being angry at people for providing you facts.

You don’t think it’s possible or reasonable. Noted.

You visit the forum for news and updates about Celine. Noted.

You clearly don’t think there will ever be news or updates in this thread as, in your opinion, what people are trying to do isn’t possible or reasonable.

I think everyone will therefore look forward to no further “fact providing” contributions from you in this thread then.

[SuperLove4Celine]

ryba, on 13 February 2021 - 10:39 AM, said:

I agree. Let’s not focus on other fans approval. There is no point. It costs too much energy and time. Instead, we must focus on reaching Celines immediate team and convince them to release footage.

I would suggest writing direct emails to their official address (all Sony branches and relevant representatives, as well as Feeling Productions and Celines Comanagement) while posting our videos simultaneously everywhere all the time and tagging Sony and Celine in every possible way. Also, attach the video (or links) to the emails. Let fans comment under the videos and request material in those comments. That’s the more effective path IMO

“Let’s not focus on other fans approval.” That sums up the likelihood of this thing actually taking flight. If you’re not going to get approval from the fans, who the heck is going to sign your petition? President Joe Biden? Pee Wee Herman? The ghost of Steve Irwin? Now that I know my approval ain’t needed, I’ll make sure to not sign the petition.

Good luck. Maybe you’ll find a lucky yen piece that will help you out. LOL

Edited by SuperLove4Celine, 13 February 2021 - 11:44 AM.

[ordinary fan]

I don't wanna be rude against anyone here. But what I don't understand is, if you aren't interested in this petition and in a new DVD/Show being released, I'm okay with that, to each his own. But why can't one just sign the petition and helping the ones who actually care?

Edited by ordinary fan, 13 February 2021 - 12:03 PM.

[PuraVida]

Some fans are refusing to dance   but here's an example of the 2017 tour that is worth spreading to the world with this petition and a release!

Edited by PuraVida, 13 February 2021 - 12:14 PM.

[SuperLove4Celine]

PuraVida, on 13 February 2021 - 12:13 PM, said:

Some fans are refusing to dance   but here's an example of the 2017 tour that is worth spreading to the world with this petition and a release!

Why try to dance with someone who has made it clear they don’t want to dance with you?

[smw]

ordinary fan, on 13 February 2021 - 12:02 PM, said:

I don't wanna be rude against anyone here. But what I don't understand is, if you aren't interested in this petition and in a new DVD/Show being released, I'm okay with that, to each his own. But why can't one just sign the petition and helping the ones who actually care?

Agreed!
I think it’s amazing to see the fans here being proactive.
I hope Celine’s team wakes up.

[PuraVida]

SuperLove4Celine, on 13 February 2021 - 12:18 PM, said:

Why try to dance with someone who has made it clear they don't want to dance with you?

I was just making a little joke to lighten everyone's mood, since I think Celine performing RTD is a moment that make us all happy! And it happens to be in the spirit of this petition and the general feeling that fans love it when Celine surprises us.  

I want to dance with you! Of course, I would love your support on the petition! You are a huge contributor to the forum. I think what the comment before meant was, if people are against this campaign from the get-go (the type of people who are pessimistic towards everything, it seems) then we should ignore those types and instead focus on the fans who are willing--and of course listen to each other's opinions, ideas, and constructive criticism.

Edited by PuraVida, 13 February 2021 - 12:50 PM.

[SuperLove4Celine]

PuraVida, on 13 February 2021 - 12:49 PM, said:

I was just making a little joke to lighten everyone's mood, since I think Celine performing RTD is a moment that make us all happy! And it happens to be in the spirit of this petition and the general feeling that fans love it when Celine surprises us.  

I want to dance with you! Of course, I would love your support on the petition! You are a huge contributor to the forum. I think what the comment before meant was, if people are against this campaign from the get-go (the type of people who are pessimistic towards everything, it seems) then we should ignore those types and instead focus on the fans who are willing--and of course listen to each other's opinions, ideas, and constructive criticism.

Those are the people you need to win over, though. If you can’t win them over, how in the world do you think you’ll win over business execs and management teams who only view Celine as a product? I’d love to see something like this happen, but being told to basically f-off just because one’s opinion isn’t 100% identical to the mission is a sure fire setup for failure.

For the record: I was elated when “Refuse To Dance” was revived.

[PuraVida]

SuperLove4Celine, on 13 February 2021 - 12:58 PM, said:

Those are the people you need to win over, though. If you can’t win them over, how in the world do you think you’ll win over business execs and management teams who only view Celine as a product? I’d love to see something like this happen, but being told to basically f-off just because one’s opinion isn’t 100% identical to the mission is a sure fire setup for failure.

For the record: I was elated when “Refuse To Dance” was revived.

I think the vast majority of fans would sign a petition for some lockdown release without thinking. 90% probably. It’s about getting those 90% to share to their networks and then we all go from there.

It’s the 10% who are naysayers to everything— trying to convince them makes the campaign lose focus on the achievable, more important mission. That’s what they were trying to say, not that you go F off.

If you love for this to happen, then you should sign!

Edited by PuraVida, 13 February 2021 - 01:41 PM.

[Shaun]

I totally get the opinion that "this probably won't happen."

I understand it and, truthfully, it's much likely closer to what will happen in the end than the chances of a small group of fans working hard to try to make a release happen. Let's face it, it is unlikely.

But coming onto the thread with endless negative opinions, bashing those trying to make this happen and almost shaming people for having hope and being positive? Well, i'm sorry, but that is something I just don't understand.

If you genuinely feel it's pointless and people are wasting their time why not just privately think that? What are you achieving from sharing these "opinions and feelings?"

Bizarre.

[couldawouldashoulda]

Shaun, on 13 February 2021 - 01:47 PM, said:

I totally get the opinion that "this probably won't happen."

I understand it and, truthfully, it's much likely closer to what will happen in the end than the chances of a small group of fans working hard to try to make a release happen. Let's face it, it is unlikely.

But coming onto the thread with endless negative opinions, bashing those trying to make this happen and almost shaming people for having hope and being positive? Well, i'm sorry, but that is something I just don't understand.

If you genuinely feel it's pointless and people are wasting their time why not just privately think that? What are you achieving from sharing these "opinions and feelings?"

Bizarre.

I could ask the same thing of anybody sharing their opinions and feelings on this board. I love You’re The Voice, Imagine, and the cover medley but people on this board LOVE to share the options on why they hate it and want it out of the show. Even going to suggest people who like those aren’t true fans. True fans would want to hear a medley of Halfway To Heaven, I Feel Too Much, and I Love You, Goodbye.

I don’t understand you not understanding why I’m sharing my opinions just like other people are sharing theirs?

[SuperLove4Celine]

couldawouldashoulda, on 13 February 2021 - 01:57 PM, said:

I could ask the same thing of anybody sharing their opinions and feelings on this board. I love You're The Voice, Imagine, and the cover medley but people on this board LOVE to share the options on why they hate it and want it out of the show. Even going to suggest people who like those aren't true fans. True fans would want to hear a medley of Halfway To Heaven, I Feel Too Much, and I Love You, Goodbye.

I don't understand you not understanding why I'm sharing my opinions just like other people are sharing theirs?

Oops! This is a Celine forum. My bad. To the stockades I go!

[ryba]

I think that we should try to find productive ideas in this topic and try to make a change. If people want to be negative instead, they shouldn't post here.

Edited by ryba, 13 February 2021 - 04:01 PM.

[SuperLove4Celine]

Just to humor some of you, here are some suggestions of whom to contact:

- Band members/Backup singers
- Caesars Palace executives/social media team
- Venues where the tours took place, as well as the venues' sponsors (if any)
- Songwriters and producers for each and every song that was performed, whether it was eventually cut or not
- Production companies to see who might even be interested in doing this
- Sony Records
- YouTube
- Feeling Productions
- Pepe (maybe...maaaaaaybe)

Also, I am going to make this extremely clear...DO NOT CONTACT OR HARASS RENE-CHARLES (R.C.) ABOUT THIS! Doing so will make the people in charge of this endeavor look really slimy and desperate.

Good luck.

Edited by SuperLove4Celine, 13 February 2021 - 05:55 PM.

[thatstheteacherinmehbaby]

Chantemoi, on 13 February 2021 - 04:55 PM, said:

Honestly, I don't think the mods are even listening anymore. I asked to have the title of this topic changed to remove the word "DVD" weeks ago and I never got a response.

Yes I do think it is a GREAT idea to also emphasize digital downloads/streaming platforms as well as DVDs... In fact I feel that digital downloads/streaming platforms might fare MUCH BETTER than DVDs! (even though yes there are still people out there who still buy DVDs & other physical content such as CDs, CD-Roms, paperback books, etc, like somebody else has said on this very forum recently, physical content/non-digital entertainment will NEVER completely die out even in this super technical-advanced world!)

And one of the best example of digital streaming that might work very well in our situation: NETFLIX

I am a huge watcher of various Netflix content, especially documentaries & concerts! In the months since this pandemic started, there has been a HUGE overflow of Netflix concerts & documentaries, & in between working & taking care of my kids & household lol, I like to watch alot of Netflix concerts & docus, & most of them are GREAT!

So I think we should emphasize the streaming platforms, especially NETFLIX, as it is SO popular with millions of people nowadays (since alot more people, such as myself and my family, have ditched cable within the last few years & are using more streaming & digital platforms such as Netflix, Hulu, Disney+, Amazon, I-Tunes, Google Play, Youtube, Apple TV, etc) Again just more of my .2 cents lol, use it as you may wish **blink blink** 😉😊

Edited by thatstheteacherinmehbaby, 13 February 2021 - 06:01 PM.

[Chantemoi]

SuperLove4Celine, on 13 February 2021 - 05:54 PM, said:

Just to humor some of you, here are some suggestions of whom to contact:

- Band members/Backup singers
- Caesars Palace executives/social media team
- Venues where the tours took place, as well as the venues' sponsors (if any)
- Songwriters and producers for each and every song that was performed, whether it was eventually cut or not
- Production companies to see who might even be interested in doing this
- Sony Records
- YouTube
- Feeling Productions
- Pepe (maybe...maaaaaaybe)

Also, I am going to make this extremely clear...DO NOT CONTACT OR HARASS RENE-CHARLES (R.C.) ABOUT THIS! Doing so will make this people in charge look really slimy and desperate.

Good luck.

Thank you for that list! We have all of these on our radar already, but we've intentionally not contacted anyone just yet... We've been waiting for our video argument to be complete and for more fans to sign the petition. We have been steadily creating content to share in hopes of gaining more followers and supporters on our social media accounts, and we've been pretty successful our first few weeks.

We're stalled a bit right now, I think because people are waiting to hear what our plan of attack is... We are addressing that issue this coming week and we will be ready to strike when/if there is an announcement about the tour. Of course, I would love to say we have thousands and thousands of fans on our side already, but we don't. But that is not stopping us yet. There is still a whole month until Céline's birthday, and at the very least we'll be emailing those VIP contacts by that date with our video and a short letter explaining why everyone (themselves included) would benefit from a nice PR move like releasing something to please the fans.

[Chantemoi]

thatstheteacherinmehbaby, on 13 February 2021 - 06:00 PM, said:

Yes I do think it is a GREAT idea to also emphasize digital downloads/streaming platforms as well as DVDs... In fact I feel that digital downloads/streaming platforms might fare MUCH BETTER than DVDs! (even though yes there are still people out there who still buy DVDs & other physical content such as CDs, CD-Roms, paperback books, etc, like somebody else has said on this very forum recently, physical content/non-digital entertainment will NEVER completely die out even in this super technical-advanced world!)

And one of the best example of digital streaming that might work very well in our situation: NETFLIX

I am a huge watcher of various Netflix content, especially documentaries & concerts! In the months since this pandemic started, there has been a HUGE overflow of Netflix concerts & documentaries, & in between working & taking care of my kids & household lol, I like to watch alot of Netflix concerts & docus, & most of them are GREAT!

So I think we should emphasize the streaming platforms, especially NETFLIX, as it is SO popular with millions of people nowadays (since alot more people, such as myself and my family, have ditched cable within the last few years & are using more streaming & digital platforms such as Netflix, Hulu, Disney+, Amazon, I-Tunes, Google Play, Youtube, Apple TV, etc) Again just more of my .2 cents lol, use it as you may wish **blink blink** ����

One of our biggest challenges has been deciding how to present this (both to the fans and to Sony/TC). If we are too narrow, we will get a No; if we are too broad, we will get something less than satisfactory. So we want to word our request in a way that leave them open to decide what is the most profitable method of release.

[mirage]

Since we don't have the phone numbers of the bigwigs to present this idea, we will stick with the underlings.
It will be noticed anyways. If there comes something out if it, yeaahh happy dance.
If not, well we did what we thought was best and what was in our possibilities.

There are a few fans with the right connections, but some of the fans are just too stubborn or full of themselves for having those connections that they won't want to help.
So this plan, this campaign is the best we can do.

You don't want something to be released? That's fine, just don't trash our ideas and dreams for something that might could happen.
You have other great ideas that might help? Feel free to share them.

What we don't need for every new step this campaign is taking is posts full of negativity.

You don't want to be part of this campaign than keep out if it. Or bring some fresh ideas that are capable of doing and support it for the full 100%

And in the end all the haters that feel like we ask too much from Céline and that we need to be thankful for what we have, are the first in line to buy/watch whatever might be released because of this campaign.
But simply signing, or trying to support. Oh God forbid.

couldawouldashoulda, on 13 February 2021 - 11:17 AM, said:

I have no ideas. I don't think this is possible or reasonable. One thing I know, you have to have a plan to get to bigwigs at companies, not the underlings who run social media pages and answer general email addresses. That's just spending a lot of time and effort for a fruitless endeavor. I can't wrap my head around why anyone would want to waste their time and energy on something that won't work. But, ya know, you do you. If you've got extra time to shout at windmills, go for it! Don't get upset with people for pointing at to you that you're shouting at the windmills, however. You're just being angry at people for providing you facts.

[PuraVida]

Of course these things get noticed! Celine’s team is very small anyway, and Feelings Production team is very small. May i also add that the Canadian branches and divisions of all these companies are much smaller and much more Celine-friendly and Celine-obsessed than US ones.

Fan campaigns are a brilliant and powerful idea. They do work. You get as much as you put in.

[PuraVida]

Also, I love that the name of the campaign is Say Yes.

Say yes....once more....you deserve to feel that rush again. Celine deserves to feel the rush of releasing more of her legacy to the fans, and we deserve to feel the rush of getting it.

And we shouldn't let anyone put a cap on our fire

[thatstheteacherinmehbaby]

Chantemoi, on 13 February 2021 - 06:04 PM, said:

One of our biggest challenges has been deciding how to present this (both to the fans and to Sony/TC). If we are too narrow, we will get a No; if we are too broad, we will get something less than satisfactory. So we want to word our request in a way that leave them open to decide what is the most profitable method of release.

Exactly, I agree 100%... That is why I mentioned about Netflix (& their recent popularity in concerts & documentaries these days,) & there has been mentioning on this forum recently about other performers, such as the band Queen (I am sooo NOT getting into the argument about the difference between Freddie Mercury/without Freddie, because either way the success of the recent concerts & documentaries about them, as well as the success of the movie "Bohemian Rhapsody" a few years ago proves they are STILL a very popular band! & yes I am also a huge Queen fan as well, I grew up on their music & grew up on classic rock music in general!) But anyway...

So what I have seen of your campaign looks very good so far & I am really glad to hear that you all are getting lots of support on social media! (I wish I could help you all with the social media part, but unfortunately I am no longer using social media, its a long story, dont really feel like discussing about it right now,) but i did sign the petition & shared it with a few of my friends through text messaging... & like you said, there needs to be a variety of platforms offered to Team Celine & Sony, including both DVDs & digital downloads/streaming platforms, I am hoping & praying that all of this will work out great & that SOMETHING will get released from Celines vault @ some point, even if its only one concert! 🙏🤞

Edited by thatstheteacherinmehbaby, 14 February 2021 - 12:51 PM.

[thatstheteacherinmehbaby]

SuperLove4Celine, on 13 February 2021 - 05:54 PM, said:

Just to humor some of you, here are some suggestions of whom to contact:

- Band members/Backup singers
- Caesars Palace executives/social media team
- Venues where the tours took place, as well as the venues' sponsors (if any)
- Songwriters and producers for each and every song that was performed, whether it was eventually cut or not
- Production companies to see who might even be interested in doing this
- Sony Records
- YouTube
- Feeling Productions
- Pepe (maybe...maaaaaaybe)

Also, I am going to make this extremely clear...DO NOT CONTACT OR HARASS RENE-CHARLES (R.C.) ABOUT THIS! Doing so will make the people in charge of this endeavor look really slimy and desperate.

Good luck.

Yes I agree with this as well, about contacting members of Celines band, songwriters, producers, Caesars Palace executives, Sony Music executives, numerous venue executives, etc... & again the vast majority of these people & companies have social media profiles &/or email addresses for contact...

& I also agree with you about bugging RC, Eddy, & Nelson... No matter who we try to contact/share this campaign with, I think that is totally WRONG to bug celines kids @ all! & not to sound mean towards anybody in particular, but I think that is the reasons why RC, Eddy, & Nelson do NOT have their social media profiles public for the masses to view or comment on because of many Celine fans (again I am not accusing anybody on this forum or anybody in particular of this,) bugging the heck out of the boys in the past! We do need to respect Celines children, as they are still her children @ the end of the day & they could not help us with this campaign anyway... So the boys need to left alone during all this! But I do agree with trying to contact everybody you listed in your post, great idea! 🙏😊

Edited by thatstheteacherinmehbaby, 14 February 2021 - 01:16 PM.