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[beelee]

202k views now! Yay!

[Chantemoi]

 MaiconSC, on 24 March 2023 - 03:15 PM, said:

I found an interview from 98, from Celine talking about MHWGO, recording sessions, and even the unreleased Dreams To Dream...
Don't know if has already been posted, but I'd like to share one interesting bit:



DtD) And what about the recording sessions ? The same article from Entertainment Weekly says they were both trying and very touching. It reminds us of Vole (a song from Dion’s 1995 album D’Eux).
CD) Not quite. Or yes, maybe a little bit. Yes, perhaps. Let’s say that Vole touched me on a personal level like no song had ever done before. It was personal, a very peculiar emotion. It’s true that in a way, Will and James took everyone by surprise with this song. Even so, it wasn’t the same kind of emotion. But yes, the recording sessions were trying, that’s for sure. There was a combination of things that made the sessions go on for much longer than anyone had intended. I was very nervous, I was really uncomfortable. And of course, James was there with his flute player.

DtD) Tony Hinnigan.
CD) Yes. They were practically finishing each other’s sentences and frankly, that made me feel even more unsure. I wasn’t able to concentrate the way I usually do. James came over to me and with René, we talked a while between the three of us and it was go again. I was mesmerized by the song, as if the movie, these characters, these star-crossed lovers, had unconsciously stirred something inside me. The song is so powerful, the lyrics are so powerful. It’s quite remarkable, and a bit frightening, to tell you the truth. James and Will had really found a way to fit all the drama, the tragedy and the love of the piece into a four-minute song. Every time I sing My Heart Will Go On, and this is where the comparison with Vole holds, I feel a particular energy. Every song has its own intensity, but this one has an undeniably human quality. I think I worked my way through around fifty live performances during those sessions, go figure ! It was hard but very powerful at the same time.

DtD) Maybe that’s why the road to completing the song was so long and arduous?
CD) Oh yes. It’s like bringing back consciousness to something unconscious. James is really good at that. I know his music a little, he plays with audiences’ emotions. I listened to Titanic, and what he did on this film is just fantastic.



Here's the link to the full interview, very good reading:
TITANIC’S VOICES: ARCHIVAL INTERVIEWS WITH SISSEL AND CÉLINE DION (jameshorner-filmmusic.com)

Interesting how “fifty” takes turned into “one take” 🤔

Edited by Chantemoi, 24 March 2023 - 05:55 PM.

[MaiconSC]

 Chantemoi, on 24 March 2023 - 05:53 PM, said:

Interesting how "fifty" takes turned into "one take" ��

lol

I think "one" and "fifty" are exaggerations... Maybe a few takes in studio, and some tryings before to get the song memorized...
But with this interview we know the real demo is voice/piano/flute only, and James build the orchestra later...
And one thing is sure, the voice recorded on demo recorded is the final version released...

[ryba]

Chantemoi said:

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Interesting how "fifty" takes turned into "one take" ��

maybe she means that she sang the song many times, and then they took one full take of many and kept it as it was. And that would be the „one take“ recording.

But yes, it’s not true that she only sang it once and never re-sang it again. They twisted the facts. And it’s quite obvious that the one take story is not true, because the soundtrack version has a different note at the very end, so that was clearly re-sang and re-recorded. There was also an interview with Walter Afanesief from 2017 in Billboard magazine in which he denied the one take story saying that Celine intensively worked on the song with him and that they did many takes. And all Celine answered was „It’s been so long, I don’t remember“. They created a story that they kept telling all these years.

Edited by ryba, 24 March 2023 - 06:36 PM.

[MaiconSC]

 ryba, on 24 March 2023 - 06:35 PM, said:

maybe she means that she sang the song many times, and then they took one full take of many and kept it as it was. And that would be the „one take“ recording.

But yes, it’s not true that she only sang it once and never re-sang it again. They twisted the facts. And it’s quite obvious that the one take story is not true, because the soundtrack version has a different note at the very end, so that was clearly re-sang and re-recorded. There was also an interview with Walter Afanesief from 2017 in Billboard magazine in which he denied the one take story saying that Celine intensively worked on the song with him and that they did many takes. And all Celine answered was „It’s been so long, I don’t remember“. They created a story that they kept telling all these years.

The Walter story is a lie.
Both versions are the same vocals. The ending on LTAL album is just edited... She never re-recorded the song.

[CourageCeline]

220k views. Likes and comments aren't increasing that fast, but i hope they pick up too

[jpatdeleon09]

See! It happens again. Told ya! The never ending talk about “one take”. Céline is right. Walter is wrong.

There’s already a proof i made years ago. So, i have a feeling it will be brought up again hahahaha

Edited by jpatdeleon09, 24 March 2023 - 08:41 PM.

[CourageCeline]

The websites that have listen MY HEART WILL GO ON in their greatest songs, have used some non-official channel's video or the official live videos. So the views from that site goes there, that has to be fixed

[jpatdeleon09]

 ryba, on 24 March 2023 - 06:35 PM, said:

maybe she means that she sang the song many times, and then they took one full take of many and kept it as it was. And that would be the „one take“ recording.

But yes, it’s not true that she only sang it once and never re-sang it again. They twisted the facts. And it’s quite obvious that the one take story is not true, because the soundtrack version has a different note at the very end, so that was clearly re-sang and re-recorded. There was also an interview with Walter Afanesief from 2017 in Billboard magazine in which he denied the one take story saying that Celine intensively worked on the song with him and that they did many takes. And all Celine answered was „It’s been so long, I don’t remember“. They created a story that they kept telling all these years.

Walter created the story. And it’s a wrong one. And we have ears to compare both versions. And it’s the same one. The last “Oooooon”, I believe it was edited by walter. And the humming part was cut down. So, the one that Walter edited (the voice one) is from the last “Ooooonn” to the humming part (he cut it into short one) - from the original version it was a long one with 2 hummings.

The instrumentals he made is the album/radio edit version

So, we have 2 versions

- Soundtrack version = made by James Horner (can be heard at the end credits of the movie & the soundtrack album)

- Album/Radio Edit Version = made by Walter (instrumentals and the ending note to humming part.

Edited by jpatdeleon09, 24 March 2023 - 08:44 PM.

[jpatdeleon09]

 jpatdeleon09, on 09 February 2021 - 12:43 PM, said:

We need this. Just incase someone will bring this up... again lol

Vocals only

Horner’s version (Soundtrack)



Walter’s version (Album)

Hi! Hahaha

[ninetales]

Those "there's NOOOOTHING I FEEEAR" and "foREEEEEVER this way" still get me after all these years. The two Eb5's are full or resonance and pleasant to the ears.

[LukeD]

The ''one take'' story is as true as the ''first kiss after Eurovision win'' story

[Derek F.]

I can't stop thinking about and watching the new amazing newly remastered 25th Anniversary "My Heart Will Go On" alternate music video!

Celine's performance is so grand and graceful, and she looks sooo incredibly beautiful!  This music video will be a classic just like the original official music video! I'm VERY grateful for this wonderful and exciting surprise we received!  The ultra high definition video quality is magnificent!

New view counts after just 2 days:  
- YouTube: more than 237,000 views, which is really good for a 4 min. and 41 sec. song that is not brand new with heavy promotion and new major radio airplay. As it was mentioned, the view count will continue to improve drastically over time because this is such a classic, legendary song with such a phenomenal new video!
- Instagram: more than 4.3 million views/plays! (keep in mind that the music video clip is less than 20 seconds long!)
- Facebook: over 555,000 views!, 55,000 reactions, 3.4k comments, and almost 10k shares!

Edited by Derek F., 25 March 2023 - 01:14 AM.

[ryba]

 MaiconSC, on 24 March 2023 - 06:56 PM, said:

The Walter story is a lie.
Both versions are the same vocals. The ending on LTAL album is just edited... She never re-recorded the song.

how do you know that Walter lied? I see that both versions are the same vocal and ok, the final note might be edited, but how can you be sure that she recorded the vocals all in one take?

[Davey84]

 Chantemoi, on 24 March 2023 - 05:53 PM, said:

Interesting how "fifty" takes turned into "one take" ��

I read it as the recording session was as intense as performing 50 concerts.

[comingback]

Sissel singing MHWGO

I prefer Celine's POP version

[Peppercorn1991]

Close to 250k now

Kev x

[beelee]

258k now!

Is it just me, or is it no longer the first result when you search “Celine Dion My Heart Will Go On”? I cleared my history and cookies before searching.

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 beelee, on 25 March 2023 - 08:51 AM, said:

258k now!

Is it just me, or is it no longer the first result when you search "Celine Dion My Heart Will Go On"? I cleared my history and cookies before searching.

Don't worry, it's still at No1 on youtube search.

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[MaiconSC]

 ryba, on 25 March 2023 - 03:02 AM, said:

how do you know that Walter lied? I see that both versions are the same vocal and ok, the final note might be edited, but how can you be sure that she recorded the vocals all in one take?

I didn't said she recorded in one take...
I'm saying she recorded in one session, the demo with Jamer Horner... And then never returned to studio to record again...
Walter just edited the vocals they have...
Don't you think we would have recording footage of such an important song? They did film almost every song from the LATL sessions...
We don't have it because the recording of the demo was supposed to be a secret, since Cameron dind't want a song for the credits.

Edited by MaiconSC, 25 March 2023 - 10:06 AM.

[MaiconSC]

 jpatdeleon09, on 24 March 2023 - 08:38 PM, said:

Walter created the story. And it's a wrong one. And we have ears to compare both versions. And it's the same one. The last "Oooooon", I believe it was edited by walter. And the humming part was cut down. So, the one that Walter edited (the voice one) is from the last "Ooooonn" to the humming part (he cut it into short one) - from the original version it was a long one with 2 hummings.

The instrumentals he made is the album/radio edit version

So, we have 2 versions

- Soundtrack version = made by James Horner (can be heard at the end credits of the movie & the soundtrack album)

- Album/Radio Edit Version = made by Walter (instrumentals and the ending note to humming part.

There's even the echo on that edited "OOOOOON" to mask the cuting...
And also the whole key change is a tiny little fasted up, so some people have the impression they are different...
But no, 100% same vocals... It's impossible to re-record the same melismas, breaths, phrases, everything THE SAME... even in two takes in one day...

[CelinesDIVO5]

 MaiconSC, on 25 March 2023 - 10:04 AM, said:

There's even the echo on that edited "OOOOOON" to mask the cuting...
And also the whole key change is a tiny little fasted up, so some people have the impression they are different...
But no, 100% same vocals... It's impossible to re-record the same melismas, breaths, phrases, everything THE SAME... even in two takes in one day...

The edit on that last note is the exact same technique they used on the note for “Sorry” on the ANDHC version for “Sorry For Love.” I’m not sure why people don’t believe that the vocal is the same and it’s just an edit lol.

[Chantemoi]

 Davey84, on 25 March 2023 - 03:31 AM, said:

I read it as the recording session was as intense as performing 50 concerts.

She and René always made it sound like it was a quick in-and-out session, not a grueling ordeal that felt equivalent to “50 live performances”… it’s just strange she would say it like that if the only other musician was Tony the flute player.

I’m not saying I think she recorded 50 takes —because clearly the same take was used in both the soundtrack and radio versions— but now I have a lot more doubts about the veracity of their “one take and done” claim.

Maybe it was rehearsed again and again, they recorded it several times in one-take recordings, then released their favourite take out of the bunch?

[CourageCeline]

 comingback, on 25 March 2023 - 08:58 AM, said:

Don't worry, it's still at No1 on youtube search.

I think that's just because of your recent searches and plays

[MaiconSC]

 Chantemoi, on 25 March 2023 - 11:36 AM, said:

She and René always made it sound like it was a quick in-and-out session, not a grueling ordeal that felt equivalent to "50 live performances"… it's just strange she would say it like that if the only other musician was Tony the flute player.

I'm not saying I think she recorded 50 takes —because clearly the same take was used in both the soundtrack and radio versions— but now I have a lot more doubts about the veracity of their "one take and done" claim.

Maybe it was rehearsed again and again, they recorded it several times in one-take recordings, then released their favourite take out of the bunch?

In the studio was James Horner and the flute player, so Celine recorded just with the two of them...

From the interview that I shared earlier, I understand that James showed the song to Celine in an hotel room, played it to her, and she tried to learn it, but since it wasn't working, René proposed to record a demo another day...
So Celine went to the studio, they rehearsed it, and finally recorded properly, maybe one time, maybe a couple...
But the "one take" certainly was "one session"...

I believe this is the most accurate history, since the interview was given less than a year passed the recording session, so her memory was still fresh.

[ryba]

 Chantemoi, on 25 March 2023 - 11:36 AM, said:

She and René always made it sound like it was a quick in-and-out session, not a grueling ordeal that felt equivalent to "50 live performances"… it's just strange she would say it like that if the only other musician was Tony the flute player.

I'm not saying I think she recorded 50 takes —because clearly the same take was used in both the soundtrack and radio versions— but now I have a lot more doubts about the veracity of their "one take and done" claim.

Maybe it was rehearsed again and again, they recorded it several times in one-take recordings, then released their favourite take out of the bunch?

that would make sense

[Állex Sodi]

I don’t know why this is such a big deal for so many. Guys, artists lie about this stuff all the time. It’s like James Cameron saying that nobody believed in Titanic, everyone thought would be a failure, a movie with the biggest investment ever (by that time) and with a bold marketing plan that was never done before. Obviously a lie.

It’s common marketing move, it generates news without many efforts.

[ordinary fan]

Over 300k on youtube now

Edited by ordinary fan, 25 March 2023 - 02:41 PM.

[justinecoria]

 CelinesDIVO5, on 25 March 2023 - 11:21 AM, said:

The edit on that last note is the exact same technique they used on the note for "Sorry" on the ANDHC version for "Sorry For Love." I'm not sure why people don't believe that the vocal is the same and it's just an edit lol.

Can anyone who is a professional in editing vocals (maybe yourself CelinesDIVO5) confirm that this is possible?
I have always wondered about this, and my non-professional conclusion was that there were at least two takes. And for the final versions, they took the same vocals for everything except for the last "on", which come from two different takes.
They do this all the time in the industry. Even the recent "La Memoire d'Abraham" version has bits from the "D'Eux" version mixed with different takes. What is surprising in MHWGO is that they would only have done this for the last "on", but at the same time, the melodies do have different endings...

When it comes to Sorry For Love, I completely agree that the note was digitally extended, but I believe that the ending of the big note in the techno version also comes from a second take. I do not believe that (in 2003) computers could create such melismas from the non-techno version alone. The song is also completely different after.

Edited by justinecoria, 25 March 2023 - 03:30 PM.