I said ANDHC had success but not as much as previous Celine's albums or other artists' 2001-2003 albums.
I don't see any contradiction: just clarification. Nothing is all positive or all negative. It went well on some places, less well in some others. It's natural.
I just said that overall
, it was a tad disappointing, especially since a big part of its sales are due to her previous success. We couldn't listen to albums before buying them, till the late 2000's, so previous releases had a big part in the first weeks sales. Or should we considered Zora Sourit
being the reason for the strong first weeks of SISDA in France, or for its sales and chart in UK, Germany and USA?
Let's dig in!
All the way (nov.1999) sold 22 million copies worldwide. ANDHC, 12 - and seems stuck at that number for a long time? maybe it is more by now.
I put in ATW sales cause it was released 2 and a half years before ANDHC, though yeah the market was declining in that period. But it's a Best of.
Also I red she wasn't one of the most pirated artists back then, due to her public. I don't have any numbers for that.
For 2001-2003 albums worldwide
The Eminem Show sold 30 million copies worldwide, Hybrid Theory 30, Come away with me 27, Meteora 27, No Angel 22, Let go 20, Up! 20, Fallen 17, Britney 15 million.
So it is possible to sell more than 20 million copies (as of today) for albums released in 2001 -2003, despite piracy.
Crazy in Love, Stripped, Laundry service, Missundaztood, A rush of blood to the head, Life for rent, Songs in a minor, Survivor, J.LO... sold 10-15 million copies too.
ANDHC is in that great area, but not dominating
the era the way LTAL and FIY did theirs (alongside Come on over
and Jagged little pill
, two great albums, Go Canada!).
ANDHC sold 3 million copies (All The Way, 6).
Come away with me 7, Swing when you're wining 6, No angel 5, Life for Rent 5, A Rush of blood to the head 5, The Eminem Show 5.
United Kingdom is the biggest european market for international artists, and as Critiaslux noted, a trend setter: let's compare ANDHC in the three biggest countries there. Certifications only.
? 300 000 copies. All the way: 1,3 million. The Eminem show: 1,8. Come away with me: 2,5. Hybrid theory 1,5. No Angel 3. Life for rent 3.
What a conquest.
? 400 000. All the way: 1 million. The Eminem Show: 800 000. Come away with me 750 000. Hybrid Theory: 750 000. No Angel 750 000 (do they stop counting at that number? ). Life for rent 600 000.
? 1 million. All the way 800 000. The Eminem show 900 000. Come away with me 1,8. Hybrid Theory : 300 000. No Angel 1,2. Life for rent 650 000.
So yeah, she had many #1s the first weeks in smaller markets (thx to past hit and anticipation).
And S'il n'en restait qu'une
too was #1 on the French chart. Shall I suppose it is one of her biggest hits in her French career? #50 in the year-end chart.
Are we assuming D'elles
was a huge succes? Achieved #1 and finished the year #21 for 2007. Okay but not great.
Since we cannot compare 96-98 sales with 2002 sales, let's look at the charts (Year-end, one week isn't representative as I just wrote).
ANDHC was the #3 sale of the year in Europe. Awesome... but a third of it came from France!
So nothing really new or impressive for Celine.
In the year-end charts:
ANDHC UK #39, Germany #9, France #5.
Before that album? Still year-end charts:
FIY was #4 in UK, #7 in Germany, #2 in France.
LTAL (97-98) was #7 & #8 in UK, #87 & #2 in Germany, #8 & #9 in France.
ATW #12 UK, #53 germany (#19 in 2000), #1 France (compilations chart in France).
I couldn't find the numbers for global Europe. But she definitively not did better with ANDHC in the three biggest european markets.
With ANDHC, She hit #1 in Norway, Finland, Sweden, Switzerland, Austria, Italy... so did LTAL.
James Blunt's Back to bedlam sales (oct.2004): Europe 6. UK 3,4. Germany 900 000. France 1.
I just happened to stumble on this one! lol So I said to myself "why not?".
So no, I don't see her audience growing in 2002, neither her being as big as ever, nor conquesting Europe. I rest my case.
Let's see in 2019 if her new found coolness (with young people praising her) translate in the new audience buying in (with a big part thanx to Deadpool).
Javito, on 13 January 2019 - 01:54 PM, said:
I know she recorded IDAN because of the Chrisler partnership. I even brought the thing up myself!
So as I already wrote, I despise the whole thing. This contract was bonkers, and I wish she would have done without (kinda like you with the vegas deal).
Edited by JulienMcbeal, 14 January 2019 - 09:47 AM.