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[Peppercorn1991]

wjd, on 11 February 2018 - 12:09 PM, said:

^ It only troubled the US chart though as there was a big sale on at mass merchants - retailers clearing through old stock.

Celine's catalog in the US is dead - she only sold 200,000 albums across an 18 month period according to a last update.

I wonder if a new (successful) album could change this? Her team must be aware of this and should do something ...

Kev x

[Xpresso]

200,000 old albumsin the US in 18 months? That doesn't seem bad to me...

[emi&celine]

Xpresso, on 11 February 2018 - 02:26 PM, said:

200,000 old albumsin the US in 18 months? That doesn't seem bad to me...

For me neither! I’d be curious to know Madonna’s, Mariah’s, Britney’s, Faith’s, Alanis’ and Shania’s catalog sales...

Most of the artist who are enjoying good catalog sales are either on top of the charts now (Pink, Eminem, Ed Sheeran, Imagine Dragons,...) or dead (Beatles, Bob Marley, Frank Sinatra, Elvis Presley, Whitney,...)!

Edited by emi&celine, 11 February 2018 - 03:27 PM.

[emi&celine]

I think Céline’s best chance to get high sales numbers again is to leave Vegas and tour across the US.

[wjd]

Xpresso, on 11 February 2018 - 02:26 PM, said:

200,000 old albumsin the US in 18 months? That doesn't seem bad to me...

16 months, not 18 months - my bad.

US - Soundscan Sales (catalog sales in brackets, across a 16 month period):

Mariah Carey - 55.2M (+200K)
Celine Dion - 52.8M (+200K)
Shania Twain - 35M (300K)
Britney Spears - 33.6M (+200K)

That doesn't make her numbers good, it just makes everyone's numbers bad. Lol.

[Leo]

wjd, on 11 February 2018 - 12:09 PM, said:

^ It only troubled the US chart though as there was a big sale on at mass merchants - retailers clearing through old stock.

Celine's catalog in the US is dead - she only sold 200,000 albums across an 18 month period according to a last update.

If the figure includes two Christmas periods, TAST must account for 50% of those sales.

[wjd]

Leo, on 11 February 2018 - 08:50 PM, said:

If the figure includes two Christmas periods, TAST must account for 50% of those sales.

Good insight!

The album sold 65,209 copies in the 2016 season and by the time we received the above updated figure, the album had sold 18,480 copies in the 2017 season (6 weeks up to mid-late November 2017) for a total of 83k.

So at least 113k of sales in the rest of her catalogue.

[Davey84]

This might have to do with the decline in sales too...

https://www.usatoday...port/310357002/

[Peppercorn1991]

Davey84, on 12 February 2018 - 02:48 AM, said:

This might have to do with the decline in sales too...

https://www.usatoday...port/310357002/

It’s really sad becuase if CD’s do anything....they give visibility to an album in stores.  I always check out new CD’s then download them....

It’s weird as today I packed all my Celine CD’s away as I never use them.... I always use vinyl or my iTunes to listen to her....  I was shocked when I realised my DVD player broke a while ago and that’s the only player I had left for playing CD’s .... I hadn’t noticed as I hadn’t played a single one in a few years!  I do listen to them in the car, although I do this less and less and use my phone...

It’s a change of the times I guess...

Kev x

[Xpresso]

And if retailers don't sell CDs, it won't help Céline as we know she sells a lot more physical albums...

But Best Buy "only" makes $40M a year selling CDs? That's still a decent amount of money!!!

[emi&celine]

  French Albums chart:

#63 (-11) Encore un soir
#193 (+2) Un peu de nous
#194 (-2) D'eux
#217 (-17) On ne change pas

...

+ UK Midweek Albums chart:

#96 (RE) My Love - Ultimate Essential Collection

Let's see where it will appear on the Albums sales chart!

[Davey84]

Xpresso, on 12 February 2018 - 05:31 PM, said:

And if retailers don't sell CDs, it won't help Céline as we know she sells a lot more physical albums...

But Best Buy "only" makes $40M a year selling CDs? That's still a decent amount of money!!!

Like I said before, it's a downwards spiral, retailers sell less cds, they offer less cds, costumer will buy even less cd's because of that etc etc etc.

You were more likely to buy a cd when you saw it on sale in a shop, just to try and see if you'd really like it, than going through all that trouble of ordering a cd on sale of amazon, where shipping might even be higher than the price of the cd

And when you get young people like Kev who don't even play cds anymore, well then they are bound to die a slow death

[Xpresso]

Why is My Love going up the charts in the UK? Something special or cheap pricing?

[Davey84]

Xpresso, on 13 February 2018 - 10:01 AM, said:

Why is My Love going up the charts in the UK? Something special or cheap pricing?

Tsk tsk it's the perfect Valentine Gift




And I think it's on sale


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[emi&celine]

Davey84, on 13 February 2018 - 10:02 AM, said:

Tsk tsk it's the perfect Valentine Gift




And I think it's on sale


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Yes right!

Plus, Mother’s Day next month in the UK. So it always re-enter the charts around this time of the year 👍

[emi&celine]

  Last week's albums sales in France:

#63 Encore un soir 909 copies sold (TOTAL : 738.336)
#193 Un peu de nous 282 copies sold
#194 D'eux 281 copies sold
#217 On ne change pas 252 copies sold

Should Céline release a live CD of her successful tours in France and promote "À vous" as a single, then we would see Encore un soir sell thousands of copies more and get closer to the 800.000 mark. That strategy worked good with Une seule fois (promoted by "Celle qui m'a tout appris") and Sans attendre.

[québecflower]

Davey84, on 13 February 2018 - 04:50 AM, said:

Like I said before, it's a downwards spiral, retailers sell less cds, they offer less cds, costumer will buy even less cd's because of that etc etc etc.

You were more likely to buy a cd when you saw it on sale in a shop, just to try and see if you'd really like it, than going through all that trouble of ordering a cd on sale of amazon, where shipping might even be higher than the price of the cd

And when you get young people like Kev who don't even play cds anymore, well then they are bound to die a slow death

people have to touch to buy, let them touch those things.

[emi&celine]

  UK Albums chart:

#99 (RE) My Love - Ultimate Essential Collection (Peak: 5 | 81 weeks)

  UK Albums sales chart: (the one I admit to use as "official")

#70 (76) My Love - Ultimate Essential Collection (Peak: 5 | 87 weeks)

I must say I was hoping for a higher position. But well, as long as I can see Céline's name on a UK chart, I'm happy

  UK Physical Albums chart:

#59 (61) My Love - Ultimate Essential Collection (Peak: 4 | 116 weeks)

  Irish Albums chart:

#42 (+11) My Love - Ultimate Essential Collection (Peak: 1 | 279 weeks)

  French Albums chart:

#68 (-5) Encore un soir (Peak: 1 | 72 weeks)
#181 (+12) Un peu de nous (Peak: 1 | 30 weeks)
#206 (-12) D'eux
#224 (-7) On ne change pas

  Belgium Wallonie Albums chart:

#117 (RE) Best of - 3CD (Peak: 73 | 121 weeks)

  Belgium Wallonie Back Catalogue Albums chart:

#47 (-8) On ne change pas

Edited by emi&celine, 16 February 2018 - 01:16 PM.

[emi&celine]

My Love - Ultimate Essential Collection failed to enter the Australian Catalogue Albums chart this week ...   I hope it will when Céline's on tour down under or if tickets sell like crazy tomorrow

[emi&celine]

Last week's sales in France

#68 Encore un soir 960 copies sold (TOTAL: 739.296)
#181 Un peu de nous 335 copies sold
#206 D'eux 279 copies sold
#224 On ne change pas 261 copies sold

[Peppercorn1991]

emi&celine, on 22 February 2018 - 03:40 PM, said:

Last week's sales in France

#68 Encore un soir 960 copies sold (TOTAL: 739.296)
#181 Un peu de nous 335 copies sold
#206 D'eux 279 copies sold
#224 On ne change pas 261 copies sold

That’s a lot of EUS copies isn’t it?

Kev x

[Bruno Portugal]

Peppercorn1991, on 22 February 2018 - 04:01 PM, said:

That’s a lot of EUS copies isn’t it?

Kev x

For an album released in 2016... it is. 😀

[emi&celine]

  UK Albums chart:

#100 (-1) My Love - (Ultimate) Essential Collection (Peak: 5 | 82 weeks)

  UK Albums Sales chart:

#72 (-2) My Love - (Ultimate) Essential Collection (Peak: 5 | 88 weeks)

  UK Physical Albums chart:

#56 (+3) My Love - (Ultimate) Essential Collection (Peak: 4 | 117 weeks)

Scottish Albums chart:

#59 (RE) My Love - (Ultimate) Essential Collection (Peak: 6 | 158 weeks)

  Irish Albums chart:

#54 (-12) My Love - (Ultimate) Essential Collection (Peak: 1 | 280 weeks)

RE-08.01.18 : 31-51-50-43-53-42-54

[nuts2you]

Do you happen to have numbers for the states , I sure would like to see how we are doing here, with those albums

[Leo]

nuts2you, on 24 February 2018 - 10:25 AM, said:

Do you happen to have numbers for the states , I sure would like to see how we are doing here, with those albums

Celine's catalog is almost dead in the USA. Her French albums sell nothing and My Love only served as a killer for All The Way as neither albums appeared on the catalog chart since 2008.

[emi&celine]

And finally:

  Australian Catalogue Albums chart:

#37 (NE) The Essential of Céline Dion (Peak: 37 | 1 week)

I don't know if it has entered the Albums chart Top 100...that will be revealed soon.

[emi&celine]

  French Albums chart:

#67 (+1) Encore un soir (Peak: 1 | 73 weeks)
#164 (+42) D'eux
#236 (-55) Un peu de nous (Peak: 1 | 31 weeks)

Good for the legendary D'eux ...and I must say I'm impressed by the longevity of Encore un soir !

+

My Love - (Ultimate) Essential Collection is at #97 on the UK Midweek Albums chart.

Edited by emi&celine, 26 February 2018 - 12:46 PM.

[emi&celine]

  UK Albums chart:

OUT (100) My Love - (Ultimate) Essential Collection (Peak: 5 | 82 weeks)

  UK Albums Sales chart:

#80 (-8) My Love - (Ultimate) Essential Collection (Peak: 5 | 89 weeks)

  UK Physical Albums chart:

#65 (-9) My Love - (Ultimate) Essential Collection (Peak: 4 | 118 weeks)

  Scottish Albums chart:

#83 (-24) My Love - (Ultimate) Essential Collection (Peak: 6 | 159 weeks)

  French Albums chart:

#75 (-8) Encore un soir (Peak: 1 | 74 weeks)
#174 (-10) D'eux
#247 (RE) On ne change pas

  Belgium Wallonie Back Catalogue Albums chart:

#34 (RE) On ne change pas

+

For some reasons, "The Essential" didn't chart on the main albums chart in Australia. I emailed ARIA and they explained me Céline's label had the request for the album to be allowed to chart, which they didn't. Too bad because then the album would have re-entered at #79.

[Davey84]

emi&celine, on 03 March 2018 - 03:21 AM, said:

For some reasons, "The Essential" didn't chart on the main albums chart in Australia. I emailed ARIA and they explained me Céline's label had the request for the album to be allowed to chart, which they didn't. Too bad because then the album would have re-entered at #79.

Wtf what kind of weird policy is that!?!

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[Xpresso]

Hey would you like Céline's album to appear on Australia's Top Album Chart?
No thanks we don't give a...
Sony.