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[Daysleeper]

Baby Lasagna, who was Croatia’s representative last year, gave an interview the day before the final. He said that his performance in collaboration with Käärijä was originally planned for the semi-final, but then the Eurovision organizers changed the schedule and moved their act to the Grand Final. When the journalist asked if it was because they were that good, he replied with a smile and a bit of irony: “That’s what they told us, but honestly, I think someone else was cancelled, so they needed us to fill the program.”

I suppose they were really keeping the possibility of Céline’s performance open until the very last moment, and something must have gone wrong. Obviously, Céline never arrived in Basel. Otherwise, someone would have seen her, and the news of her arrival would have leaked by now. They should have denied everything earlier, there's no excuse.

[emiliejolie]

I do share your opinions and deception. Maybe this Eurovision file could be a lesson for us. We should stop waiting for an appearence, a video or something like that.
I share the feeling she may work hard but she now enjoys a life after Renè mourn, messy period that came after this, her illness etc. So her voice is not what she expects so she does not hurry anything.
She is not and has never been in building this social career. René was and he built the Celine we all knew. She has change ( or maybe just she is now the Celine she always was)
And we have to accept that we will never have the unreleased songs, unreleased videos or projects.
I’ve read above regrets about artistic directions. For me Celine was a fantastic singer, but she is a not properly an artist, whith her own universe and creating no matter who listen, even though someone would listen.
She wanted to perform, so she always did what people expected from her so that she could touch as many people as possible. A fantastic singer, not an artist.

[comingback]

Yes, firstly Celine is a singer. But she also can be an artist, if she has people who inspire her (like Goldman for ex.). She wrote some songs in French and English and had an acting role in Des Fleurs Sur La Neige (she was great).

[CelinesDIVO5]

emiliejolie, on 19 May 2025 - 08:06 AM, said:

I do share your opinions and deception. Maybe this Eurovision file could be a lesson for us. We should stop waiting for an appearence, a video or something like that.
I share the feeling she may work hard but she now enjoys a life after Renè mourn, messy period that came after this, her illness etc. So her voice is not what she expects so she does not hurry anything.
She is not and has never been in building this social career. René was and he built the Celine we all knew. She has change ( or maybe just she is now the Celine she always was)
And we have to accept that we will never have the unreleased songs, unreleased videos or projects.
I’ve read above regrets about artistic directions. For me Celine was a fantastic singer, but she is a not properly an artist, whith her own universe and creating no matter who listen, even though someone would listen.
She wanted to perform, so she always did what people expected from her so that she could touch as many people as possible. A fantastic singer, not an artist.

She is an artist in the way she can interpret songs that she has not written. It’s a true artistic gift to make people believe (and believe that YOU believe) everything you are singing. To take someone else’s art, and put your own stamp on it, essentially making you a piece of that art…is artistry.

[CélineI'mAlive]

I still think the most effective thing is what I mentioned in the general thread, using the example of the Spanish band Fangoria. Warner Music made it very easy for my friend to set up that fan club, where they can release rarities, etc., in CD format and without relying on any record label. They manage everything themselves.

Warner Music allows them to have rare material and release it. Why can’t we ask Sony for the same? Celine Dion Forum could be a good place to do this, where, for example, each of us could have our own membership card, etc.

Edited by CélineI'mAlive, 19 May 2025 - 09:55 AM.

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mirage, on 19 May 2025 - 03:38 AM, said:

Here is footage from the rehearsals/juryshow of the finals.
It's the segment where they celebrate old contestants.

It's the message we all saw on the semifinal, other this one contains footage of her winning that night.
I don't get why they skipped all of it.

https://www.instagra...zM5OGd2N2s3YXd5

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This is so strange. Maybe they cut it out to keep the ratings high. Many people were expecting to see her, even the commentators.

[homerton]

Ajax, on 19 May 2025 - 05:02 AM, said:

I heard the same interview as everyone hear when the doc came out and personally never heard anything about her clearly saying she would be back in Vegas.
She said she was working hard and that s what she wanted the most nothing more than that. The I’m working on a show was an image of how much she’s projecting herself into performing again live and the Can I tell them ? During the interview whith Hoda was for the Oplympics.  
The more I’m getting old the more I understand the power of c cognitive biase.


So she is still working on her health and nothing more to declare. From the beginning, it is clear for me that she will never be back with a residency or full show. Degenerative Neurological Disorder with NO cure. The fact that she can handle it maybe a bit better than normal people due to her surrounding and money doesn’t change that.

What annoys me is her inability to see herself as an artist other than in Arenas belting out songs.
If she can’t do anymore full live show I’m sure she can still be a singer and an artist maybe even more now than before.
She could reinvent her repertoire with strip down version of her hits, she could just connect with us from home/studio with one song live, she can record some EP.
And in parallel another important thing where she has nothing to do is just rely on catalog, unheard songs, new release of old music under différents format, anecdotes, new old video material…..
she just has to be a bit demanding and build the right team around her for this job. She doesn’t care, she is not interested into that. What can we do ?

She has no interest in building her legacy thanks to all the material from the past which would cost nothing nor she can project herself in smaller projects like LP, even connect with the fans with stripped down live version of one song in the confort of her living room on social media etc. It has always been big and that s how her brain works. It s like she can’t do it differently and envision this new chapter as a new opportunity. Even in full health she wasn’t able to do it.

So bring on the big chèques or the Olympics that the only way she will get out it seems

I agree. She could easily do a little concert at home. It’s clear the voice isn’t there. An odd snippet, but I feel it’s gone. If it hasn’t, why no songs or little shows. I feel we are being led on. Led on to believe she’s on the mend like last year’s interviews. Led on to believe she can sing as she did at the Olympics. Playback. Led on again with the ghastly fashion show concert where the voice from 1990 was used 🤣

Time for some honesty from her show her team. This can’t go on. It’s silly

[Ajax]

homerton, on 19 May 2025 - 10:25 AM, said:

I agree. She could easily do a little concert at home. It’s clear the voice isn’t there. An odd snippet, but I feel it’s gone. If it hasn’t, why no songs or little shows. I feel we are being led on. Led on to believe she’s on the mend like last year’s interviews. Led on to believe she can sing as she did at the Olympics. Playback. Led on again with the ghastly fashion show concert where the voice from 1990 was used 🤣

Time for some honesty from her show her team. This can’t go on. It’s silly

We doesn’t know exactly for sure the condition of her voice. My point was rather to say that even if it decreased drastically I think she is still able to be at minimum a good studio singer, and sing her repertoire if she propose stripped down version for example, she could also have the opportunity to connect with fans and propose a live rendition of a simple easy song from her own repertoire in the confort of her house but she won’t.
It s rather go big or go home. I guess doing that, doing things differently is also for her a way to admit she s not Céline Dion anymore as she explained and she simply can’t be process that by now. Celine Dion is the feroce animal on stage belting songs like an athlete. That s how it has to be.

Edited by Ajax, 19 May 2025 - 11:03 AM.

[Davey84]

Meanwhile in Team Celine world...

https://www.facebook...e/p/1AJHTXXMKK/

They clearly don't give a flying fuck about the whole Eurovision kerfuffle!

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[Shamrock_1982]

Seems like the only time they are giving us anything decent these days is when they want high viewing figures or for us to pay for something.

[dawn]

Here is Celine's segment from the rehearsal / jury show on Friday evening, and which we couldn't watch during the final on Saturday.

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dawn, on 19 May 2025 - 01:25 PM, said:

Here is Celine's segment from the rehearsal / jury show on Friday evening, and which we couldn't watch during the final on Saturday.

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I’d like to know what lead the, to ditch this part during the live show.

[PuraVida]

mirage, on 19 May 2025 - 05:14 AM, said:

I think we would be good for the next year if she for example only did a Tiny Desk concert.

It definitely doesn't need to be a full arena show, or a big residency.
Take her rendition of Winter Song, just in the studio as a gift instead of another video message of just a photo.

If that will be the social media interaction, they can be silent for the rest of the year.

I've been thinking/saying this for a long time. Something like BBC Radio 2 or Tiny Desk. I don't know why they don't do something like that, especially if Celine is desperate to please her fans.

Either 1) She's not well enough to, esp. vocally  2) They want to keep her exposure as low as possible so they can demand highest $$$ when she "comes back" for real with an album, residency, big project, etc.

[CélineI'mAlive]

PuraVida, on 19 May 2025 - 06:52 PM, said:

I've been thinking/saying this for a long time. Something like BBC Radio 2 or Tiny Desk. I don't know why they don't do something like that, especially if Celine is desperate to please her fans.

Either 1) She's not well enough to, esp. vocally  2) They want to keep her exposure as low as possible so they can demand highest $$$ when she "comes back" for real with an album, residency, big project, etc.

I think the same (Posiblity 1)

Edited by CélineI'mAlive, 19 May 2025 - 06:59 PM.

[CélineI'mAlive]

PuraVida, on 19 May 2025 - 06:52 PM, said:

I've been thinking/saying this for a long time. Something like BBC Radio 2 or Tiny Desk. I don't know why they don't do something like that, especially if Celine is desperate to please her fans.

Either 1) She's not well enough to, esp. vocally  2) They want to keep her exposure as low as possible so they can demand highest $$$ when she "comes back" for real with an album, residency, big project, etc.

PuraVida, on 19 May 2025 - 06:52 PM, said:

I've been thinking/saying this for a long time. Something like BBC Radio 2 or Tiny Desk. I don't know why they don't do something like that, especially if Celine is desperate to please her fans.

Either 1) She's not well enough to, esp. vocally  2) They want to keep her exposure as low as possible so they can demand highest $$$ when she "comes back" for real with an album, residency, big project, etc.

I don’t think Celine Dion does this so that fans pay a higher price.

[PuraVida]

CélineI, on 19 May 2025 - 07:00 PM, said:

I don’t think Celine Dion does this so that fans pay a higher price.

Not fans paying a higher price. But for example, I think one reason she stayed completely off the radar until her documentary trailer was dropped, was in order to maximise the Amazon Prime viewing numbers of I Am Celine.

And then she was very low profile until Olympics --- and then afterwards pretty much the same thing.

[Celinemaniac]

When it comes to Céline’s presence on social media, there’s a lot that could be done — and simply isn’t. Part of the blame likely falls on her team, but it’s also possible that she herself doesn’t have the interest or the mindset to shape an online presence that makes us, her fans, feel like she’s there. Active, alive, well — or even not so well, but real.


If you remember, her very first Instagram post was a casual, heartfelt selfie. Natural, promising. It gave hope for more: for an honest, closer look into her world. But before long, her account turned into something cold, impersonal, corporate. That might have been okay while she was out and about — doing photoshoots, touring, working. But once that stopped, the account just... drifted.
The only time we really felt her online was during her time with Pepe. Even during the pandemic, we caught glimpses of a life being lived: walks in nature, time with family over the holidays, moments that reassured us she was still somewhere, doing something, existing.


Now? All we get are throwbacks — often beautiful, yes — but they create distance rather than closeness. And the captions? Often vague. They don’t always clarify that we’re looking at old material, which leads newer followers (or casual ones) to think this is Céline now. A perfect example: her latest post, where she appears to be doing... acrobatics!


But what could we be getting instead? So many simple things. A glimpse into her daily routine. A short video from her workout or vocal rehab. A song, even a snippet, from the studio or her living room — maybe a soft cover of one of her own tracks, or someone else’s, with just a guitar or piano. Everyday, down-to-earth content. Nothing polished. Just... human.


We don’t need perfection. Those of us who (still) love her, never loved her only for her perfection. We loved her because she made us feel. Because she was real.
And now — especially now — we just want to feel her again. Not only through curated memories or polished PR, but through whatever present she can still share with us. However raw. However quiet. Just something that says: I’m still here.

[Nmj]

Celinemaniac, on 20 May 2025 - 05:01 AM, said:

When it comes to Céline’s presence on social media, there’s a lot that could be done — and simply isn’t. Part of the blame likely falls on her team, but it’s also possible that she herself doesn’t have the interest or the mindset to shape an online presence that makes us, her fans, feel like she’s there. Active, alive, well — or even not so well, but real.


If you remember, her very first Instagram post was a casual, heartfelt selfie. Natural, promising. It gave hope for more: for an honest, closer look into her world. But before long, her account turned into something cold, impersonal, corporate. That might have been okay while she was out and about — doing photoshoots, touring, working. But once that stopped, the account just... drifted.
The only time we really felt her online was during her time with Pepe. Even during the pandemic, we caught glimpses of a life being lived: walks in nature, time with family over the holidays, moments that reassured us she was still somewhere, doing something, existing.


Now? All we get are throwbacks — often beautiful, yes — but they create distance rather than closeness. And the captions? Often vague. They don’t always clarify that we’re looking at old material, which leads newer followers (or casual ones) to think this is Céline now. A perfect example: her latest post, where she appears to be doing... acrobatics!


But what could we be getting instead? So many simple things. A glimpse into her daily routine. A short video from her workout or vocal rehab. A song, even a snippet, from the studio or her living room — maybe a soft cover of one of her own tracks, or someone else’s, with just a guitar or piano. Everyday, down-to-earth content. Nothing polished. Just... human.


We don’t need perfection. Those of us who (still) love her, never loved her only for her perfection. We loved her because she made us feel. Because she was real.
And now — especially now — we just want to feel her again. Not only through curated memories or polished PR, but through whatever present she can still share with us. However raw. However quiet. Just something that says: I’m still here.

Beautifully said, send this to her team.

[mirage]

Celinemaniac, on 20 May 2025 - 05:01 AM, said:

When it comes to Céline’s presence on social media, there’s a lot that could be done — and simply isn’t. Part of the blame likely falls on her team, but it’s also possible that she herself doesn’t have the interest or the mindset to shape an online presence that makes us, her fans, feel like she’s there. Active, alive, well — or even not so well, but real.


If you remember, her very first Instagram post was a casual, heartfelt selfie. Natural, promising. It gave hope for more: for an honest, closer look into her world. But before long, her account turned into something cold, impersonal, corporate. That might have been okay while she was out and about — doing photoshoots, touring, working. But once that stopped, the account just... drifted.
The only time we really felt her online was during her time with Pepe. Even during the pandemic, we caught glimpses of a life being lived: walks in nature, time with family over the holidays, moments that reassured us she was still somewhere, doing something, existing.


Now? All we get are throwbacks — often beautiful, yes — but they create distance rather than closeness. And the captions? Often vague. They don’t always clarify that we’re looking at old material, which leads newer followers (or casual ones) to think this is Céline now. A perfect example: her latest post, where she appears to be doing... acrobatics!


But what could we be getting instead? So many simple things. A glimpse into her daily routine. A short video from her workout or vocal rehab. A song, even a snippet, from the studio or her living room — maybe a soft cover of one of her own tracks, or someone else’s, with just a guitar or piano. Everyday, down-to-earth content. Nothing polished. Just... human.


We don’t need perfection. Those of us who (still) love her, never loved her only for her perfection. We loved her because she made us feel. Because she was real.
And now — especially now — we just want to feel her again. Not only through curated memories or polished PR, but through whatever present she can still share with us. However raw. However quiet. Just something that says: I’m still here.

Amen!!

I rather have posts like this.
This one already got deleted on her instagram, they did a big clean up.
https://www.instagra...m5lem1hMXBxcXUy

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[scielle]

mirage, on 20 May 2025 - 07:14 AM, said:

Amen!!

I rather have posts like this.
This one already got deleted on her instagram, they did a big clean up.
https://www.instagra...m5lem1hMXBxcXUy

So much good stuff got deleted and instead they started posting insufferable slop. And while I’m not Québécois or French, the all-Anglo content now has me offended, too, so imagine someone who’s primarily francophone. Its so disappointing.

[actofcontrition]

scielle, on 20 May 2025 - 08:33 AM, said:

So much good stuff got deleted and instead they started posting insufferable slop. And while I’m not Québécois or French, the all-Anglo content now has me offended, too, so imagine someone who’s primarily francophone. Its so disappointing.

I'm from Quebec and still listening her 80's record. And i think its a HUGE disrespect. René would never have allow these english only posts!

[Nmj]

Speaking of media…

I just got a WhatsApp message from Celine it was a pic of her in the shower…

That old photo from TCWT… we’ve seen it all at this point. Terrible team.

[Ajax]

Several interview of  organisators and director of Eurovision mention that they thought till last minute she would come but did not due to her health getting bad at some point. The article said she was also supposed to join DJ Snake at the same time at Stade de France but her health also prevented her of honouring it.

[No1IrishFan]

Ajax, on 20 May 2025 - 11:28 AM, said:

Several interview of  organisators and director of Eurovision mention that they thought till last minute she would come but did not due to her health getting bad at some point. The article said she was also supposed to join DJ Snake at the same time at Stade de France but her health also prevented her of honouring it.

That’s sad if it’s true. Shows she’s not near any kind of a comeback.

[Nmj]

Ajax, on 20 May 2025 - 11:28 AM, said:

Several interview of  organisators and director of Eurovision mention that they thought till last minute she would come but did not due to her health getting bad at some point. The article said she was also supposed to join DJ Snake at the same time at Stade de France but her health also prevented her of honouring it.

.

I don’t know the state of her health… but I don’t believe a word they say. They also said her jet landed and she was in Switzerland as was confirmed to be false so I don’t believe anything they say.

[CélineI'mAlive]

PuraVida, on 20 May 2025 - 12:17 AM, said:

Not fans paying a higher price. But for example, I think one reason she stayed completely off the radar until her documentary trailer was dropped, was in order to maximise the Amazon Prime viewing numbers of I Am Celine.

And then she was very low profile until Olympics --- and then afterwards pretty much the same thing.

Yes, I can confirm that it is a marketing strategy that is usually used in this kind of things.

[RosieBarron]

Nmj, on 20 May 2025 - 11:50 AM, said:

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I don’t know the state of her health… but I don’t believe a word they say. They also said her jet landed and she was in Switzerland as was confirmed to be false so I don’t believe anything they say.

She just simply was never supposed to be there. I really believe it is that simple. As you say I wouldn't believe  word that say!

Edited by RosieBarron, 20 May 2025 - 12:31 PM.

[CélineI'mAlive]

Celinemaniac, on 20 May 2025 - 05:01 AM, said:

When it comes to Céline’s presence on social media, there’s a lot that could be done — and simply isn’t. Part of the blame likely falls on her team, but it’s also possible that she herself doesn’t have the interest or the mindset to shape an online presence that makes us, her fans, feel like she’s there. Active, alive, well — or even not so well, but real.


If you remember, her very first Instagram post was a casual, heartfelt selfie. Natural, promising. It gave hope for more: for an honest, closer look into her world. But before long, her account turned into something cold, impersonal, corporate. That might have been okay while she was out and about — doing photoshoots, touring, working. But once that stopped, the account just... drifted.
The only time we really felt her online was during her time with Pepe. Even during the pandemic, we caught glimpses of a life being lived: walks in nature, time with family over the holidays, moments that reassured us she was still somewhere, doing something, existing.


Now? All we get are throwbacks — often beautiful, yes — but they create distance rather than closeness. And the captions? Often vague. They don’t always clarify that we’re looking at old material, which leads newer followers (or casual ones) to think this is Céline now. A perfect example: her latest post, where she appears to be doing... acrobatics!


But what could we be getting instead? So many simple things. A glimpse into her daily routine. A short video from her workout or vocal rehab. A song, even a snippet, from the studio or her living room — maybe a soft cover of one of her own tracks, or someone else’s, with just a guitar or piano. Everyday, down-to-earth content. Nothing polished. Just... human.


We don’t need perfection. Those of us who (still) love her, never loved her only for her perfection. We loved her because she made us feel. Because she was real.
And now — especially now — we just want to feel her again. Not only through curated memories or polished PR, but through whatever present she can still share with us. However raw. However quiet. Just something that says: I’m still here.

I don't know why, but I have the impression that the Celine team is reading our messages, because now, on the WhatsApp channel, they're saying they'll share never-before-seen photos from past eras — and they're actually doing it!

[LukeD]

Celine was never supposed to be there which is why she recorded a video issuing an apology so many months ago.

The organisers LIED hinting she'd attend and now they LIE again that there was a last minute cancellation. The second LIE is so that we do not hold them accountable for the first LIE.

Edited by LukeD, 20 May 2025 - 01:06 PM.

[LukeD]

I also want to echo the disappointment over the handling of her career. I am usually optimistic and positive but there are flaws in everything.

- 'Love Again' soundtrack recycled old songs - wasted opportunity to provide new arrangements.
- 'I Am: Celine Dion' compilation album - again recycling random hits.
- 'Hymne A L'amour' single released 3 months after the Olympics performance.
- Instagram account filled with random photos, posts in English and impersonal texts.
- No health update in months.
- The ESC fiasco.
- Several albums and singles undercertified.
- Majority of her early French material still not available on Spotify.
- Low streaming numbers.

It is all a joke. It takes an artist that cares and a team that knows what they are doing to change things. Let's hope this day comes at some point!

Edited by LukeD, 20 May 2025 - 01:13 PM.