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[GoldenLeaf]

Funny how she has got nice press reviews and is now considered cool by the medias ever since René died. I guess being married to a man 26 years older than her was simply not cool for the medias. Now Celine is perceived by them as a free woman in total control of her own life and career.

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[québecflower]

GoldenLeaf, on 22 July 2017 - 10:52 AM, said:

Funny how she has got nice press reviews and is now considered cool by the medias ever since René died. I guess being married to a man 26 years older than her was simply not cool for the medias. Now Celine is perceived by them as a free woman in total control of her own life and career.

i think this is one of the reason yes, a lot of people were put off by this relation.   and  her fashion campaign is showing who is the boss now.

[scielle]

Another good one -

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"For years, maybe decades, not giving a f*** was the ultimate flavor of cool. To radiate confidence while renouncing the rules of the upper echelon was counterculture in a nutshell. But as that spirit of effortlessness grew in popularity and capitalism did what it does best, “not giving a f***” became a set of grooming rules in its own right. Ripped jeans, messy hair, dirty sneakers, dad hats. Most of us now recognize this attitude for what it is: an aesthetic. The appearance of not giving a f*** is liable to take as much thought as appearing to give one.

Giving a f*** has its own look, too, and is typically assigned to a whole other different type of person: frilly dresses, bejeweled eye shadow, the perfectly planned candid. (If you think I’m not going to bring this around to Céline Dion, you are sorely mistaken!) The lightening-speed proliferation of culture through social media means “attitudes” quickly become LEWKS, their trappings interchangeable and indistinguishable from each other.

I think this is why authenticity became such a priority a few years ago, for brands and people alike. But now authenticity feels like its own PR play, which is hilarious if only because it’s so predictable. At this point, everything feels calculated because it is! To care is a lewk. To not care is a lewk. The question of what could possible feel real anymore hangs in the air.

Enter: CÉLINE f****** DION.

Céline Dion does not fit into any aforementioned box. Céline Dion is not cool. Céline Dion is so embarrassing. Céline Dion is my hero. [...]

Just a few weeks ago The Cut published a story called “Welcome to the Céline Dionaissance,”which is an incredible headline and confirms what I’ve long suspected, which is that she’s having a moment. Said moment came to a head last night on Instagram and then again this morning: Vogue published a profile on her entitled, “How 2017 Turned Céline Dion Into an Icon—Again.” The above clips of her dressing up in couture are pulled from this video and are literally incredible.

Forgive me while I over-intellectualize something as pure as the above videos, but I think Céline Dion is having a comeback because she’s radically different from most “personalities” in the spotlight. She’s so uncalculated and unabashedly herself. Who she is happens to embody so much of what pop culture has deemed dorky: jerky but confident dance moves, utter dedication to a character for the pure drama of it, genuine kookiness. She exudes not a lick of self-deprecation nor feigned self-awareness. She’s ridiculous and so comfortable in that space. She doesn’t give a f*** but she doesn’t not give a f***.

Maybe this is what real authenticity looks like. Maybe this is how you break the cycle of attitude commodification. Maybe just be Céline f****** Dion, you know?"

Edited by scielle, 22 July 2017 - 08:21 PM.

[scielle]

BTW, also worth reading in the above article is the comments section. Several thoughtful ones, including this -

"I met Céline when I was 20 at a dinner that she and her late husband had organized at a restaurant in Montreal for Céline's musicians. I was invited to accompany a friend. Céline came to me; we shook hands (oh, boy she has a strong grip) and we spoke a bit. Don't remember what we talked about; my hand was hurting to much. Call me a masochist, but I liked her right away and I love her today. Yes, she is a talented singer (and actress too for those who don't know) but more importantly she is authentic and it appears she still is despite all the spotlight. She's a great example of an Alpha Woman; funny, kind, strong, true to herself and to what's really important in her life. In Vogue's video, she shines like a star and has fun playing the part of a diva! I say "playing" because in real life Celine seems to really care about others, she certainly doesn't have a diva attitude and maintains a strong link to her roots. I wouldn't mind that my path crosses hers again. This time, I would give her a kiss on the cheeks instead of shaking hands though."

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[incognito]

scielle, on 22 July 2017 - 08:17 PM, said:

Another good one -

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"For years, maybe decades, not giving a f*** was the ultimate flavor of cool. To radiate confidence while renouncing the rules of the upper echelon was counterculture in a nutshell. But as that spirit of effortlessness grew in popularity and capitalism did what it does best, “not giving a f***” became a set of grooming rules in its own right. Ripped jeans, messy hair, dirty sneakers, dad hats. Most of us now recognize this attitude for what it is: an aesthetic. The appearance of not giving a f*** is liable to take as much thought as appearing to give one.

Giving a f*** has its own look, too, and is typically assigned to a whole other different type of person: frilly dresses, bejeweled eye shadow, the perfectly planned candid. (If you think I’m not going to bring this around to Céline Dion, you are sorely mistaken!) The lightening-speed proliferation of culture through social media means “attitudes” quickly become LEWKS, their trappings interchangeable and indistinguishable from each other.

I think this is why authenticity became such a priority a few years ago, for brands and people alike. But now authenticity feels like its own PR play, which is hilarious if only because it’s so predictable. At this point, everything feels calculated because it is! To care is a lewk. To not care is a lewk. The question of what could possible feel real anymore hangs in the air.

Enter: CÉLINE f****** DION.

Céline Dion does not fit into any aforementioned box. Céline Dion is not cool. Céline Dion is so embarrassing. Céline Dion is my hero. [...]

Just a few weeks ago The Cut published a story called “Welcome to the Céline Dionaissance,”which is an incredible headline and confirms what I’ve long suspected, which is that she’s having a moment. Said moment came to a head last night on Instagram and then again this morning: Vogue published a profile on her entitled, “How 2017 Turned Céline Dion Into an Icon—Again.” The above clips of her dressing up in couture are pulled from this video and are literally incredible.

Forgive me while I over-intellectualize something as pure as the above videos, but I think Céline Dion is having a comeback because she’s radically different from most “personalities” in the spotlight. She’s so uncalculated and unabashedly herself. Who she is happens to embody so much of what pop culture has deemed dorky: jerky but confident dance moves, utter dedication to a character for the pure drama of it, genuine kookiness. She exudes not a lick of self-deprecation nor feigned self-awareness. She’s ridiculous and so comfortable in that space. She doesn’t give a f*** but she doesn’t not give a f***.

Maybe this is what real authenticity looks like. Maybe this is how you break the cycle of attitude commodification. Maybe just be Céline f****** Dion, you know?"

Thanks for always sharing these stories.

[CelineDionFreak]

scielle, on 22 July 2017 - 08:17 PM, said:

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"For years, maybe decades, not giving a f*** was the ultimate flavor of cool. To radiate confidence while renouncing the rules of the upper echelon was counterculture in a nutshell. But as that spirit of effortlessness grew in popularity and capitalism did what it does best, “not giving a f***” became a set of grooming rules in its own right. Ripped jeans, messy hair, dirty sneakers, dad hats. Most of us now recognize this attitude for what it is: an aesthetic. The appearance of not giving a f*** is liable to take as much thought as appearing to give one.

Giving a f*** has its own look, too, and is typically assigned to a whole other different type of person: frilly dresses, bejeweled eye shadow, the perfectly planned candid. (If you think I’m not going to bring this around to Céline Dion, you are sorely mistaken!) The lightening-speed proliferation of culture through social media means “attitudes” quickly become LEWKS, their trappings interchangeable and indistinguishable from each other.

I think this is why authenticity became such a priority a few years ago, for brands and people alike. But now authenticity feels like its own PR play, which is hilarious if only because it’s so predictable. At this point, everything feels calculated because it is! To care is a lewk. To not care is a lewk. The question of what could possible feel real anymore hangs in the air.

Enter: CÉLINE f****** DION.

Céline Dion does not fit into any aforementioned box. Céline Dion is not cool. Céline Dion is so embarrassing. Céline Dion is my hero. [...]

Just a few weeks ago The Cut published a story called “Welcome to the Céline Dionaissance,”which is an incredible headline and confirms what I’ve long suspected, which is that she’s having a moment. Said moment came to a head last night on Instagram and then again this morning: Vogue published a profile on her entitled, “How 2017 Turned Céline Dion Into an Icon—Again.” The above clips of her dressing up in couture are pulled from this video and are literally incredible.

Forgive me while I over-intellectualize something as pure as the above videos, but I think Céline Dion is having a comeback because she’s radically different from most “personalities” in the spotlight. She’s so uncalculated and unabashedly herself. Who she is happens to embody so much of what pop culture has deemed dorky: jerky but confident dance moves, utter dedication to a character for the pure drama of it, genuine kookiness. She exudes not a lick of self-deprecation nor feigned self-awareness. She’s ridiculous and so comfortable in that space. She doesn’t give a f*** but she doesn’t not give a f***.

Maybe this is what real authenticity looks like. Maybe this is how you break the cycle of attitude commodification. Maybe just be Céline f****** Dion, you know?"

Thank you so much for sharing!!! This is such a profound article!

[chocolatechip15]

GoldenLeaf, on 22 July 2017 - 10:52 AM, said:

Funny how she has got nice press reviews and is now considered cool by the medias ever since René died. I guess being married to a man 26 years older than her was simply not cool for the medias. Now Celine is perceived by them as a free woman in total control of her own life and career.

I don't think it's that the media didn't like her marriage - there was such a huge outpouring of sympathy when Rene died. I think it's *because* she had a tragedy that she became much less mockable than the super-popular singer with the too-perfect life.

I don't think this wave of positive attention would have happened if Rene were still alive. It's pretty sad, really. Right now, it's the in thing to love Celine, Vogue jumped on the bandwagon, whatever. But the media is notoriously fickle, and they could turn on her quickly too.

The people who mattered always loved Celine. I honestly don't think she cares that much about this type of press attention.

Maybe she is in complete control (whatever that means exactly when you head an empire as vast as hers). But I think she'd much rather have her life with Rene back. To me, all of this activity feels a little bit more like frenzied running away than true happiness. Just speculation.

[Matias]

This article also explains this new fascination people are having with Celine, some miss the 90's Celine, demure, almost "shy" in a way, but this woman is taking back her life and learning to live again
Im still with mix feelings as well, but 1996 was a long time ago LOL

http://montrealgazet...ts-a-good-thing

[scielle]

Matias, on 23 July 2017 - 02:27 AM, said:

This article also explains this new fascination people are having with Celine, some miss the 90's Celine, demure, almost "shy" in a way, but this woman is taking back her life and learning to live again
Im still with mix feelings as well, but 1996 was a long time ago LOL

http://montrealgazet...ts-a-good-thing

As posted / discussed in several places over this past week+:

http://www.celinedio...50#entry2260254

http://www.celinedio...80#entry2262547

http://www.celinedio...40#entry2260374

[scielle]

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"This is precisely the opposite of how Dion attends a fashion show. She watches with the same enthusiasm as a kid in a candy store. In Disneyland. On ecstasy. At Dior and Schiaparelli, we saw her yelling and clapping and singing and giving standing ovations, even when no one else was doing anything of the sort. She heaped compliments and selfies and hugs on anyone who asked. She even took off her sunglasses, as if to show that this was the real Céline Dion and she was truly happy to be here.

My favourite moment was at Giambattista Valli. The designer chose as his venue the glorious courtyard garden of the Petit Palais. It was evening, and the late summer sun had sunk behind the building’s gilded dome, which glittered like a crown. Dion barged in like a tsunami. Photos! Air kisses! “Hi, everybody, it’s me, Céline Dion!”

Unlike blasé fashion editors and socialites who stare at their phones during a show, she remained in the zone. She analysed every look that passed before her, oohing and aahing. One of her backing dancers, Pepe Munoz, was sitting opposite her on the other side of the catwalk, and the two of them spent the whole show communicating, non-verbally, their admiration for each outfit. When a dress came out with an oversized flourish of tulle on the shoulder, they mimed the silhouette with their fingertips (“Flamenco hand signals,” said a Vogue reviewer) and fluttered their eyelashes in pure elation. Fashion scribe Suzy Menkes posted an Instagram video of the exaggerated one-woman ovation Dion gave Giambattista at his bow, which has had more than 600,000 views. In the video, as Giamba gets closer, she starts jumping and clapping like a toddler who needs to use the bathroom. The whole spectacle is so amusing, even Anna Wintour, fashion’s ultimate poker face, can’t help but crack a smile.

Backstage after Valli’s show, Dion made a beeline for the designer and gave him an embrace that was so long and intimate, he blushed. She then introduced Munoz, who was so excited, he burst into tears. But then, with all those love ballads, who hasn’t cried because of Céline Dion?

I overheard her telling Giamba she needed to quit coming to Paris for couture shows because she was spending too much money. I wondered if she knew that most celebrities expect to be paid to go to these things and not the other way around? I was loitering because I wanted to ask her for a selfie. Turns out I wasn’t alone. Italian It girl Bianca Brandolini wanted one too. (We did one together.) As did the French fashion icon of cool Carine Roitfeld, who quickly posted hers on Instagram with the caption, “Welcome to Paris, Céline ❤.”"




This must be the post / pic - https://www.instagra...=carineroitfeld

Edited by scielle, 23 July 2017 - 05:34 AM.

[jpatdeleon09]

"..we shook hands (oh, boy she has a strong grip).." i want to feel that!

[Matias]

scielle, on 23 July 2017 - 05:30 AM, said:

As posted / discussed in several places over this past week+:

http://www.celinedio...50#entry2260254

http://www.celinedio...80#entry2262547

http://www.celinedio...40#entry2260374

Jeez...chill a bit

[scielle]

Matias, on 23 July 2017 - 11:55 AM, said:

Jeez...chill a bit

What do you mean?...just pointing you to places where people have discussed it, given there's, like, 400 pages in the tour thread.

[zuv]

mebe, on 16 June 2017 - 09:04 PM, said:

It's amazing to see that Celine is popular again! She's always been but now it's more than ever! ; )

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Yess indeed... but will Sony response to this new random over the top popularity or they will just sit on their lazy big dollars filled asses and just let her popularity to the work to sell her next album?
🤔

[Critiaslux]

zuv, on 23 July 2017 - 05:05 PM, said:

Yess indeed... but will Sony response to this new random over the top popularity or they will just sit on their lazy big dollars filled asses and just let her popularity to the work to sell her next album?
🤔

Well their response (in France at least) was to release a new compilation. Easy made. No costs. Just profits... 😅🤑

Somehow Rene seemed never too demanding for the marketing. He wanted the best for Celine but not in a divaish way contrary to other artist / managers. Just like in the Sunday Times article where the writer was astonished that Celine buys the clothes instead of being paid to wear them.

So I am not too optimist with the marketing of the next album especially if there is no one in Celine team to harass the record company to do things timely and spend some extra cash. The day to management is not Celine' s job; just wondering who is taking care of that currently.

But we will see as we can be pleasantly surprised.

[angelil78]

Critiaslux, on 24 July 2017 - 03:53 AM, said:

Well their response (in France at least) was to release a new compilation. Easy made. No costs. Just profits... ����

Somehow Rene seemed never too demanding for the marketing. He wanted the best for Celine but not in a divaish way contrary to other artist / managers. Just like in the Sunday Times article where the writer was astonished that Celine buys the clothes instead of being paid to wear them.

So I am not too optimist with the marketing of the next album especially if there is no one in Celine team to harass the record company to do things timely and spend some extra cash. The day to management is not Celine' s job; just wondering who is taking care of that currently.

But we will see as we can be pleasantly surprised.

Regarding her clothes. Yes she buys a LOT of them but the clothes she's wearing in France are also borrowed. Not sure she gets payed to wear them. Like the Titanic sweater last year, the Vetements (I think it was called) took it back after she wore it.

[scielle]

https://www.brit.co/...on-vogue-video/

"What did that poor mannequin head ever do to deserve Dion going all Walking Dead on its face? And is this how she regularly spends her time?

Is her life just one endless fashion montage punctuated by dramatic twirls and hip thrusts and yards of tulle? We’re not entirely sure it isn’t. And, of course, we’re hoping that it is. Thanks again, Celine. Keep doing you."


Oh, and Hey Reilly is back. (The artist / designer mentioned in one of the Vogue pieces).

Voila!

https://www.instagram.com/hey_reilly/

Edited by scielle, 24 July 2017 - 07:42 PM.

[Brandon]

GoldenLeaf, on 22 July 2017 - 10:52 AM, said:

Funny how she has got nice press reviews and is now considered cool by the medias ever since René died. I guess being married to a man 26 years older than her was simply not cool for the medias. Now Celine is perceived by them as a free woman in total control of her own life and career.

That's fake news! Celine was always in control.

[Brandon]

angelil78, on 24 July 2017 - 04:07 AM, said:

Regarding her clothes. Yes she buys a LOT of them but the clothes she's wearing in France are also borrowed. Not sure she gets payed to wear them. Like the Titanic sweater last year, the Vetements (I think it was called) took it back after she wore it.

She bought all the ones from last year in Paris according to Law.

[Critiaslux]

angelil78, on 24 July 2017 - 04:07 AM, said:

Regarding her clothes. Yes she buys a LOT of them but the clothes she's wearing in France are also borrowed. Not sure she gets payed to wear them. Like the Titanic sweater last year, the Vetements (I think it was called) took it back after she wore it.

I understand that indeed she borrows certain clothes for her Paris catwalk 😁

What I meant is that she sounds like not taking advantage of her position: unlike certain others in show biz she does buy clothes and not request them for free.

Quite respectful and ethical.🖒☺

[angelil78]

Critiaslux, on 25 July 2017 - 03:20 AM, said:

I understand that indeed she borrows certain clothes for her Paris catwalk ��

What I meant is that she sounds like not taking advantage of her position: unlike certain others in show biz she does buy clothes and not request them for free.

Quite respectful and ethical.��☺

Yeah you are totally right!!  She's doing it out of true passion for fashion!

[scielle]

Nice radio piece.
It's in French, but spoken very slowly, so even if your French is so-so, give it a try.
My fave line is "Celine Dion is to song what Roger Federer is to tennis"

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Haha -

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I believe it should be here - http://www.cbc.ca/ne...grams/radionoon
Or here - http://www.cbc.ca/li...radio1/montreal

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[scielle]

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(For the non-Canadians, This Hour Has 22 Minutes is kind like the Canadian version of Saturday Night Live - meets - Daily Show.)

Also, I know I already posted this article above, but they keep tweeting about it, and this recent one is my fave -

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[angelil78]

scielle, on 29 July 2017 - 07:38 AM, said:

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(For the non-Canadians, This Hour Has 22 Minutes is kind like the Canadian version of Saturday Night Live - meets - Daily Show.)

Also, I know I already posted this article above, but they keep tweeting about it, and this recent one is my fave -

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True!!

[scielle]

More from Anne T. Donahue.
She's becoming a staple in the "Celine is cool" canon!
https://i-d.vice.com...age-renaissance

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[scielle]

Another solid article to add to the collection - http://www.independe...e-36046781.html

It's a long one, but here are some excerpts.

"The [Vogue] footage of Celine Dion set the internet on fire, with the hashtag #CelineTakesCouture. Draped in the most elaborate, expensive clothes in the world, Dion peacocks in what can only be described as a meta take on po-faced high-fashion - striking poses and throwing dances moves, all with the utmost seriousness.
In someone remotely self-conscious, it would have been utterly ridiculous. From Dion, a woman who has so thoroughly earned her professional stripes, and who, in the act of rebuilding herself after the loss of her husband, Rene Angelil, so clearly couldn't give a toss about anyone else's opinion; it was a one-woman tour de force. [...]

Dion was attending Paris Couture Week, when she was spotted in the front row beside Anna Wintour, giving double thumbs up, lone standing ovations, and shouting bravo, an unabashed show of enthusiasm that was no doubt deemed 'so not fashion, darling', but does Dion care? [...]

These [Vogue] videos capture the essence of Celine Dion's rebirth. This is not a cynical marketing attempt to rebrand as cool in order to breathe some life into a flagging career. Dion's career is nowhere near flagging; her latest album, Encore un soir, was only outsold by Drake, Beyonce and Frank Ocean in its opening week. And constant rebranding has never been her thing. [...] This isn't a woman desperately seeking anyone's attention. It is a woman slowly coming to life after one of the worst losses anyone can suffer, that of a beloved spouse whom, in this case, Dion, now 49, had known since the age of 12. This is a woman trying to breathe joy into her life again.[...]

This attitude allowed her to forgo the red carpet walk when she decided it was distracting her prior to big performances. It's an attitude of independence than one can only admire. She may be considered the queen of bland in musical terms, but her huge success (250m-plus album sales to date) has allowed her to do her own thing. [...]

She clearly couldn't care less about the mockers. Such confidence can only be attractive.

Maybe also in some small way, her new fashion dalliance is a sort of armour, a way of allowing her to go out into the world again and say "yes, yes, I'm fine, let's get on with it" and politely brush aside all the grief ghouls.  She has said she will mourn her husband for the rest of her life. But Dion is clearly no victim, and this is a mission statement from a woman who wants to get on with living."

Edited by scielle, 20 August 2017 - 10:34 PM.

[scielle]

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[wjd]

Great share!