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[Peppercorn1991]

Ncarbia, on 06 April 2017 - 05:51 PM, said:

I feel as bad as you do about this, but let's not forget that Aldo accepted the job when Rene was fighting for his life, maybe as a friend... Rene wanted to be sure that when he passed, someone "take care" of Celine and her carreer, and so Aldo did. But maybe he was not pretending to manage her all his life. He was asked to help them while Rene was sick, and to help Celine with her career when he passed. Now, it's been over two years since he started, Celine's carreer continue in a  very positive way, so his job with her is done.
She didn't fire him, and he didn't quit, he did his job and now he's moving on.
Its my opinion.

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Then why so quick? It's very sudden!

I can't believe that when there is a lot going on in the next couple of years for Celine.... the tour... the album.... he hasn't even completed an English album with her...

Kev x

[CelineTheBest5]

Everything is still so weird, they didnt explain anything! There are more things "behind the curtain", maybe we will never know!

[joaofilho]

It's a bit strange that this exit without further explanation without clarification, I do not know who will stay in the udo of Aldo, more case Celine decides to stay ahead of things for a while, it will be very stressful because she needs to focus on her shows, read Contracts, taking care of payments, these things are stressful and she's not used to taking everything, which I do not know, I wish Celine good luck and she knows how to make the right decisions.

[scielle]

CelinesDIVO5, on 06 April 2017 - 04:22 PM, said:

Come on people. "I hope she doesn't get taken advantage of." Are you serious? Celine isn't some naive, moronic twit. She may have taken a back seat to the business side of things...that doesn't mean she doesn't know how to get shït done. She's not a stupid woman. She also has a management team. Aldo was just the head honcho. She's well protected not only by the people she works with, but also by herself. No need to worry. Yes, this is sudden. But Celine and her team have a sense of class, decorum and brains. They'll figure this out, and everything will be fine. Stop thinking the most dramatic and worse case scenario as if it's already at their fingertips.

It's not her career I'm worried about - I'm sure a shop like IMG will work her to the bone - it's her well-being!  

Rene obviously had that as his first priority. Aldo, presumably, by extension, did as well. But a bohemoth like IMG? Or CAA or their ilk? Highly doubtful.

As an banker to them both, I can tell you that looking out for their clients as human beings rather than assets is fairly low on their priority list. What's more, both are owned (or substantially owned) by private equity firms - Silverlake and TPG. And as a banker to those, too, I can tell you with confidence that their first priority is squeezing out every possible dollar, their second priority is squeezing out every possible dollar, and their third priority is squeezing out every possible dollar. A multi-manager, multi-talent agency like that...she'd be just another number, and managing her would be just someone's job. They will never be truly personally invested.

So yes, I absolutely worry about her getting exploited. And I worry about her happiness working with a shop like that.

Sure, Celine has off-the-charts EQ. But looking out for loopholes in term sheets and contracts is another skill altogether. Making decisions about her career is one thing. Making sure she doesn't get swindled and taken advantage of in the process is quite another. God knows, it's happened many times before to very smart people (for instance Leonard Cohen or Alanis Morissette, both embezzled by managers they trusted).

If she has to go with a talent management agency, I hope she at least picks some relatively small family shop that has a good reputation for looking after people, not just talent.  Like Feldman/ Macklam Feldman / Watchdog... whatever they're called these days.

Either way, this all seems very sudden and worrying. She and Aldo seemed to get along so well and with Rene's blessing... it really begs the question - What could have possibly gone wrong?! Aldo was just always around - you could see him in all those pictures at RC's hockey games, almost seemed like a member of the family - and I'm sure there are others in the entourage...but who could possibly do the job and do it well?

Sure, more professional management could be good for her career. But will it be good for her?

Edited by scielle, 06 April 2017 - 06:41 PM.

[québecflower]

scielle, on 06 April 2017 - 06:27 PM, said:

It's not her career I'm worried about - I'm sure a shop like IMG will work her to the bone - it's her well-being!  

Rene obviously had that as his first priority. Aldo, presumably, by extension, did as well. But a bohemoth like IMG? Or CAA or their ilk? Highly doubtful.

As an banker to them both, I can tell you that looking out for their clients as human beings rather than assets is fairly low on their priority list. What's more, both are owned (or substantially owned) by private equity firms - Silverlake and TPG. And as a banker to those, too, I can tell you with confidence that their first priority is squeezing out every possible dollar, their second priority is squeezing out every possible dollar, and their third priority is squeezing out every possible dollar. A multi-manager, multi-talent agency like that...she'd be just another number, and managing her would be just someone's job. They will never be truly personally invested.

So yes, I absolutely worry about her getting exploited. And I worry about her happiness working with a shop like that.

Sure, Celine has off-the-charts EQ. But looking out for loopholes in term sheets and contracts is another skill altogether. Making decisions about her career is one thing. Making sure she doesn't get swindled and taken advantage of in the process is quite another. God knows, it's happened many times before to very smart people (for instance Leonard Cohen or Alanis Morissette, both embezzled by managers they trusted).

If she has to go with a talent management agency, I hope she at least picks some relatively small family shop that has a good reputation for looking after people, not just talent.  Like Feldman/ Macklam Feldman / Watchdog... whatever they're called these days.

Either way, this all seems very sudden and worrying. She and Aldo seemed to get along so well and with Rene's blessing... it really begs the question - What could have possibly gone wrong?!

Sure, more professional management could be good for her career. But will it be good for her?

i think that it would not be the first time she would be overworked. As much as they had a closed relationship, René did make Celine work  her #ss off big time, from 95 to 2000, and from 2002 to 2008.  It is a bit curious that they erased the Vegas date after publishing them. Something did happen very quick, and as always we won't know the truth about it.  
Celine should stop Vegas, do mini tour around the world , sell the Vegas home, come back to quebec or  go see Europe. And do some real artsy things for albums, it would be a nice change.  If she still needs money, then i think that  something is not right,  She can sing and do less money.

[joaofilho]

scielle, on 06 April 2017 - 06:27 PM, said:

It's not her career I'm worried about - I'm sure a shop like IMG will work her to the bone - it's her well-being!  

Rene obviously had that as his first priority. Aldo, presumably, by extension, did as well. But a bohemoth like IMG? Or CAA or their ilk? Highly doubtful.

As an banker to them both, I can tell you that looking out for their clients as human beings rather than assets is fairly low on their priority list. What's more, both are owned (or substantially owned) by private equity firms - Silverlake and TPG. And as a banker to those, too, I can tell you with confidence that their first priority is squeezing out every possible dollar, their second priority is squeezing out every possible dollar, and their third priority is squeezing out every possible dollar. A multi-manager, multi-talent agency like that...she'd be just another number, and managing her would be just someone's job. They will never be truly personally invested.

So yes, I absolutely worry about her getting exploited. And I worry about her happiness working with a shop like that.

Sure, Celine has off-the-charts EQ. But looking out for loopholes in term sheets and contracts is another skill altogether. Making decisions about her career is one thing. Making sure she doesn't get swindled and taken advantage of in the process is quite another. God knows, it's happened many times before to very smart people (for instance Leonard Cohen or Alanis Morissette, both embezzled by managers they trusted).

If she has to go with a talent management agency, I hope she at least picks some relatively small family shop that has a good reputation for looking after people, not just talent.  Like Feldman/ Macklam Feldman / Watchdog... whatever they're called these days.

Either way, this all seems very sudden and worrying. She and Aldo seemed to get along so well and with Rene's blessing... it really begs the question - What could have possibly gone wrong?! Aldo was just always around - you could see him in all those pictures at RC's hockey games, almost seemed like a member of the family - and I'm sure there are others in the entourage...but who could possibly do the job and do it well?

Sure, more professional management could be good for her career. But will it be good for her?

That's what I'm worried about, it's Celine being cheated and putting everything to waste, my God, she and Rene were so confident in Aldo. We have already seen cases of managers stealing, remember n'sync, even Alaniss, Toni Braxton was cheated by his manager he put it into debts, he had Celine make the right choice.

[CelinesDIVO5]

scielle, on 06 April 2017 - 06:27 PM, said:

It's not her career I'm worried about - I'm sure a shop like IMG will work her to the bone - it's her well-being!  

Rene obviously had that as his first priority. Aldo, presumably, by extension, did as well. But a bohemoth like IMG? Or CAA or their ilk? Highly doubtful.

As an banker to them both, I can tell you that looking out for their clients as human beings rather than assets is fairly low on their priority list. What's more, both are owned (or substantially owned) by private equity firms - Silverlake and TPG. And as a banker to those, too, I can tell you with confidence that their first priority is squeezing out every possible dollar, their second priority is squeezing out every possible dollar, and their third priority is squeezing out every possible dollar. A multi-manager, multi-talent agency like that...she'd be just another number, and managing her would be just someone's job. They will never be truly personally invested.

So yes, I absolutely worry about her getting exploited. And I worry about her happiness working with a shop like that.

Sure, Celine has off-the-charts EQ. But looking out for loopholes in term sheets and contracts is another skill altogether. Making decisions about her career is one thing. Making sure she doesn't get swindled and taken advantage of in the process is quite another. God knows, it's happened many times before to very smart people (for instance Leonard Cohen or Alanis Morissette, both embezzled by managers they trusted).

If she has to go with a talent management agency, I hope she at least picks some relatively small family shop that has a good reputation for looking after people, not just talent.  Like Feldman/ Macklam Feldman / Watchdog... whatever they're called these days.

Either way, this all seems very sudden and worrying. She and Aldo seemed to get along so well and with Rene's blessing... it really begs the question - What could have possibly gone wrong?! Aldo was just always around - you could see him in all those pictures at RC's hockey games, almost seemed like a member of the family - and I'm sure there are others in the entourage...but who could possibly do the job and do it well?

Sure, more professional management could be good for her career. But will it be good for her?

Everyone is talking about IMG like Robin Leach's word is bible. I don't believe she is stupid enough to go into anything without taking the proper precautions and having the right people on her side look over every word, dot every i and cross every t. She's not naive. She'll be fine.

[scielle]

CelinesDIVO5, on 06 April 2017 - 06:51 PM, said:

Everyone is talking about IMG like Robin Leach's word is bible.

LOL, indeed! Trusted purveyor of #fakenews! Haha
Here's hoping he got this one wrong, too...

CelinesDIVO5, on 06 April 2017 - 06:51 PM, said:

I don't believe she is stupid enough to go into anything without taking the proper precautions and having the right people on her side look over every word, dot every i and cross every t. She's not naive. She'll be fine.

Sure, but the 'right people' are getting fewer and fewer. Who can she really trust?

Edited by scielle, 06 April 2017 - 07:05 PM.

[chocolatechip15]

Wow, I didn't see this coming.

On the one hand, I was never a big Aldo fan. Partly, it was just that no one could ever replace Rene, but I felt that he was more focused on $$, and the firing of all her longtime band members still bothers me (even though I basically understand it's to be expected in the business world -- it's just not how Celine and Rene ran things).

On the other hand . . Rene chose him. He'd been part of their team for a reallly long time.  He was at their wedding in '94.  She thanked him in  the liner notes of one of her early albums.  There was more likely to be some basic decency there.

But . . . I also think Rene very likely had a backup plan. Celine has indicated many times that he was very concerned about protecting her . .I can't see that he'd put all his eggs in one Aldo basket, so to speak.

I wonder if she'd bring someone like Dave Platel back -- he was Rene's right-hand man for so many years.  And Dave clearly didn't have hard feelings about being fired by Aldo, judging from his beautiful speech at Rene's Celebration of Life.

I give zero credence to anything Robin Leach says, and I highly doubt she'd sign with some big American management agency -- if only because the ties to Quebec are so important to her, and I can't see a big American agency focusing on that.  She really needs an agent who speaks French fluently and is familiar with the Quebec showbiz world -- but who can also negotiate with the biggest worldwide entities.  There probably aren't a ton of choices there . . .

I worry a little about her being exploited, too, but she does have other members of her team who've been with her for a million years  . . . one of her lawyers, Jamie Young, has been her lawyer since ca. 1992 (she kept appearing in the album liner notes!). I'm pretty sure Rene had a whole team of lawyers and accountants around her that they've trusted for years -- I don't think she's *that* vulnerable to exploitation.  I've also got to imagine that Rene worked with financial advisors to put in place plans to protect their assets (I imagine that's part of what's behind these random pieces of real estate with their names attached to them that sometimes pop up from time to time).

She was really vulnerable to exploitation back when she was a naive 19-year-old who barely spoke English and had all her hopes set on breaking into the American market. And she was *so* lucky to have someone like Rene watching out for her at that time, because there are a lot of people who would have taken advantage of a situation like that. (I think that's partly what she means when she's said, so many times, that Rene always protected her and always respected her).  But nowadays. . I don't know, I don't worry so much. She's an established star, almost 50 years old, very sure of herself, and with a whole team of advisors that they've had for a very long time.  I think she'll be fine.

[daina.svabe]

québecflower, on 06 April 2017 - 06:47 PM, said:

It is a bit curious that they erased the Vegas date after publishing them. Something did happen very quick, and as always we won't know the truth about it.  

May I ask, what Vegas date are you talking about ?

[scielle]

God, I hope you're right!
I just have visions of vultures circling around with $$$ in their eyes!

[chocolatechip15]

DionFanAlways, on 06 April 2017 - 04:17 PM, said:

That has always been the most ridiculous suggestion; having RC be her manager. People who honestly thought that have a few screws loose. I'm not saying that you suggested it.

While I totally agree with you, I actually seem to recall Celine talking to Julie Snyder about Rene thinking that RC should ultimately be her manager. Obviously not while he's still in high school, and I think Celine said something about it being totally RC's choice as to what he wants to do with his life . . but I do think that idea of RC eventually managing Celine came from Rene. (She was laughing, saying something about it being passed from generation to generation, and I  couldn't understand all the French and I think quebecflower translated it .  .does anyone else remember this or am I hallucinating?? )

Also, now that Aldo's gone, maybe we'll get more Julie Snyder interviews! I always felt that he was the reason she abruptly stopped doing anything with Julie.

[flutefreak]

Did anyone get their hands on the new Vegas program?  Was there mention of Aldo in that?

[DionFanAlways]

chocolatechip15, on 06 April 2017 - 07:08 PM, said:

While I totally agree with you, I actually seem to recall Celine talking to Julie Snyder about Rene thinking that RC should ultimately be her manager. Obviously not while he's still in high school, and I think Celine said something about it being totally RC's choice as to what he wants to do with his life . . but I do think that idea of RC eventually managing Celine came from Rene. (She was laughing, saying something about it being passed from generation to generation, and I  couldn't understand all the French and I think quebecflower translated it .  .does anyone else remember this or am I hallucinating?? )

Also, now that Aldo's gone, maybe we'll get more Julie Snyder interviews! I always felt that he was the reason she abruptly stopped doing anything with Julie.

Oh yeah the "crockpot" special!!!! Wasn't it?

[flutefreak]

daina.svabe, on 06 April 2017 - 07:07 PM, said:

May I ask, what Vegas date are you talking about ?

Yesterday Vegas dates were posted for Sept-Jan then apparently taken down.

[québecflower]

daina.svabe, on 06 April 2017 - 07:07 PM, said:

May I ask, what Vegas date are you talking about ?

this week, they put out  a lot of date for this autum and winter and put them back  just after.

[Angel2006]

This is really unexpected and scary news. I am totally shocked right now. Rene personally picked Aldo to be Celine's manager, so I don't believe he was fired or drama went down in any way. Celine trusted Rene, so in turn she would trust Aldo with everything she has. I trust that Rene had a pack up plan for an event like this. Aldo isn't exactly young, so Rene must have had someone else in mind, encase Aldo passed away or something. Rene always planned ahead and I'm sure he must have thought of these things.

I am pretty sure that Celine's career will remain protected. Aldo isn't just going to leave her hanging. I'm sure he will probably find her another manager, or at least advice her on who he thinks is a good management company. Celine also has a lot of people on her team that can advice her, including Rene's oldest son Patrick. I wouldn't be surprised if he is in the running to take over as manager, which is a decision that I would be very comfortable with.

Times are a little scary at the moment, but I have every hope that things will work out for the best and Celine will find the perfect manager that Rene would have approved of. Rene probably even advised Celine on different management companies and what his thoughts were about them and I'm sure that there most be some kind of backup plan in motion that Rene had set up before his passing, because as I said before, Aldo isn't exactly the youngest guy on the block, so Rene knew he couldn't be her manager forever.

Given Rene's health at the time, he knew better then anyone that a person's health can change on a dime, so I'm sure he must have had a few backup managers in mind encase Aldo's health was to fail or Aldo just didn't want to be her manager anymore for any given reason.

[scielle]

chocolatechip15, on 06 April 2017 - 07:08 PM, said:

Also, now that Aldo's gone, maybe we'll get more Julie Snyder interviews! I always felt that he was the reason she abruptly stopped doing anything with Julie.

All very curious, seeing as Aldo's wife is a former executive at Productions J...
Incidentally, I suppose this means Marianik is out, too? Since she was charged with "operations & development at CDA Productions"? And I believe she was actually the one responsible for a lot of those phone-camera videos and social media posts - you could see her always following Celine with phone in hand.

[québecflower]

i am confident that Celine is intelligent and mature enough to run her things. The idea that Aldo was the best because René chose him, as if only René had enough judgement  and wisdom to make this choice. Céline chose René first , i think she can do a wise decision now.

[Nmj]

April fools is over ... this is sort of shocking to say the least.

[québecflower]

http://www.lapresse....celine-dion.php

Aldo says here that he did took that decision himself, it was to be more with his family , he has young children. He filled his obligationthe the first year Celine was not working but for 1 and a half year , it was a lot of work.  , he doesn't know who will take the place. He is confident that Celine is able to take her own decisions. She did not try to retain him , because she was thinking it was good for his family.  Aldo Says that that job is very demanding , he is not so young . Celine is the biggest artist and you can't stop  that machine.  He will always be there for Celine if she calls him.

Edited by québecflower, 06 April 2017 - 08:19 PM.

[maikan]

Maybe Celine just moved on...
She wants to make her own choices, she has to trust her instincts. She chose Law as her new stylist and in less than a year she became a fashion icon. I trust her with the rest.

[Del]

TiagoFragoso05, on 06 April 2017 - 03:33 PM, said:

Maybe thats why the up coming concerts ( next year) were added and then removed from the website?


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I was wondering where those dates went.  I saw them yesterday and I went to show them to a friend today and they were gone.

québecflower, on 06 April 2017 - 04:38 PM, said:

well, unexpected. But Aldo was René's extension. Maybe he was hiding things, etc...  Talking just about myself, but maybe Celine wants to be the real boss from now on...

I also wondered that.  Maybe she wants more control and say in the way things are run and he didn't feel the same.  That or the fact that he felt he was  no longer the one to run her career and guide things.

CelineTheBest5, on 06 April 2017 - 06:06 PM, said:

Everything is still so weird, they didnt explain anything! There are more things "behind the curtain", maybe we will never know!

unfortunately in the business world things like this are never explained.  A press release is sent out and that is it.  At the end of the day it's a business decision either for personal or business reasons and we're not owed more than the press release.

[Nmj]

maikan, on 06 April 2017 - 08:03 PM, said:

Maybe Celine just moved on...
She wants to make her own choices, she has to trust her instincts. She chose Law as her new stylist and in less than a year she became a fashion icon. I trust her with the rest.

I also believe that he really resigned and wasn't fired.

I just wish someone YOUNG and fresh with alot of stamina and fresh ideas take over.  Aldo did seem really excited about possible new ideas for English album, I just hope this doesn't cause another delay on the album.

[Cafe67]

Aldo isn't exactly a young man, and I'm sure his position demanded quite a lot of focus and energy. Most people his age are looking at slowing down, not speeding up, so this isn't really surprising. Rene was so good at managing Céline because he was her husband and only wanted the best for her, but Aldo has his own life and his own family to focus on. A job like his would take up so much time, I'm sure that had some impact on his decision.

[Del]

québecflower, on 06 April 2017 - 08:02 PM, said:

http://www.lapresse....celine-dion.php

Aldo says here that he did took that decidion himself, it was to be more with his family , he has young children. He filled his obligationthe the first year Celine was not working but for ! and a half year , it was a lot of work.  , he doesn't know who will take the place. He is confident that Celine is able to take her own decisions. She did not try to retain him , because she was thinking it was good for his family.  Aldo Says that that job is very demanding , he is not so young . Celine is the biggest artist and you can't stop  that machine.  He will always be there for Celine if she calls him.

Aldo is a very smart man to do this.  A job that is very demanding and keeps you away from your family is not always the best option.  One always has to make sure family is first  as you can never get back the moments you lost.

[scielle]

québecflower, on 06 April 2017 - 08:02 PM, said:

http://www.lapresse....celine-dion.php

Aldo says here that he did took that decidion himself, it was to be more with his family , he has young children. He filled his obligationthe the first year Celine was not working but for ! and a half year , it was a lot of work.  , he doesn't know who will take the place. He is confident that Celine is able to take her own decisions. She did not try to retain him , because she was thinking it was good for his family.  Aldo Says that that job is very demanding , he is not so young . Celine is the biggest artist and you can't stop  that machine.  He will always be there for Celine if she calls him.

That article is actually really reassuring.
Sounds like it was all on very amicable terms and he'll be there to ensure a smooth transition.  Plus his reasons are completely understandable and Celine's reaction is very, well, Celine. It's clearly an all-consuming job. So I get it.
But still - it's sad. I hope she can find someone she truly trusts.

[Nmj]

He has every right to leave to slow down and be with family, but he should've done it gradually after they hired a replacement and Aldo had given the new manager heads up  about future endeavors and commitments.

[jpatdeleon09]

Maybe Patrick Angelil can be Céline's Manager