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[actofcontrition]

 Davey84, on 25 July 2023 - 01:51 AM, said:

*cough* Courage WT setlist *cough*



I'll always consider TLYM a (bonus) track of Live À Paris, cos that's where it was released on in Europe for the first time. Funny how many people dislike Why Oh Why, it's deffo in my top 5 of LTAL songs

Why oh why is one of my favorite too!

[Nmj]

 smw, on 25 July 2023 - 02:05 PM, said:

Yes! It gets old when some people consider someone like Mariah Carey to be more of an “artist” because she wrote songs. Tina Turner didn’t write her own songs… nor did Whitney Houston… the list is long. And these are brilliant artists/performers.

And I’m more so referencing people I see in the comments of YouTube videos and on social media. Fans of “the vocal trinity” (Celine, Whitney, Mariah) tend to claim Mariah is more of an artist because she’s written some songs.

Whereas I think they all bring different things to the table and are brilliant in different ways.

I could care less for Mariah but she hasn’t written some songs, she’s written 17/18 of her number one singles. The only exception is “When You  Believe” with Whitney.

[PuraVida]

 Zofia, on 25 July 2023 - 10:44 AM, said:

The excess of covers in her live repertoire is quite controversial, but I confess I always took it as an expression of her pure joy in making music on stage - her own or others', who cares, when there's fun to be had Even more: I see in it her anti-narcissistic side, and that's so rare in her profession!

I agree. She just loves music so much, she has songs stuck in her head for years, even decades! She simply wants to perform them.

My issue is that she lets the same covers go on a bit too long sometimes, notably the Prince medley and "You're The Voice" ... there are probably others that aren't springing to mind atm.

[smw]

 Nmj, on 25 July 2023 - 08:15 PM, said:

I could care less for Mariah but she hasn’t written some songs, she’s written 17/18 of her number one singles. The only exception is “When You  Believe” with Whitney.

Right. I think it’s great that Mariah writes her songs. What irks me sometimes is when people try to use that fact to diminish Celine or Whitney or Tina etc because they didn’t write their songs.

And I still feel like Celine has more classics that will stand the test of time compared to Mariah. Even if Celine’s songs weren’t all #1 hits. Beauty and the Beast, My Heart Will Go On, It’s All Coming Back To Me Now, etc are more epic and timeless in my opinion than songs like Honey or Fantasy. Not to mention Celine’s many brilliant French songs.

Edited by smw, 25 July 2023 - 10:23 PM.

[george_matei]

 smw, on 25 July 2023 - 10:16 PM, said:

Right. I think it’s great that Mariah writes her songs. What irks me sometimes is when people try to use that fact to diminish Celine or Whitney or Tina etc because they didn’t write their songs.

And I still feel like Celine has more classics that will stand the test of time compared to Mariah. Even if Celine’s songs weren’t all #1 hits. Beauty and the Beast, My Heart Will Go On, It’s All Coming Back To Me Now, etc are more epic and timeless in my opinion than songs like Honey or Fantasy. Not to mention Celine’s many brilliant French songs.

It's true.

[Állex Sodi]

 smw, on 25 July 2023 - 02:05 PM, said:

Yes! It gets old when some people consider someone like Mariah Carey to be more of an “artist” because she wrote songs. Tina Turner didn’t write her own songs… nor did Whitney Houston… the list is long. And these are brilliant artists/performers.

And I’m more so referencing people I see in the comments of YouTube videos and on social media. Fans of “the vocal trinity” (Celine, Whitney, Mariah) tend to claim Mariah is more of an artist because she’s written some songs.

Whereas I think they all bring different things to the table and are brilliant in different ways.

Newer generations seems to care way more about singers-songwriters. Personally, as a fan of both Celine and Mariah, I don’t believe a singer is more of an artist because they write their own songs. If you’re a singer, not a songwriter, but you carefully choose songs for you to record to translate the feelings you have or the message you want to pass, you’re an artist.

Unfortunately, Celine’s anglophone career fails on that either. Her discography in english feels like something put together by a marketing team, with her having no connection whatsoever with most of the songs, which is why she never bothered to sing them again. There’s no history behind.

That being said, I don’t think this is reason enough to diminish Celine on the vocal trinity. All 3 of them fails on that, one way or another.

[smw]

Celine seems to have a strong connection to a good amount of her English songs - but not all of them. I’m sure Rene and her team played a big part in what Celine recorded so it makes sense she wasn’t as connected to them all.

There are some pivotal songs in her English career that she seems to really feel ownership over/a big connection to - like The Prayer, The Reason, Immortality, Seduces Me, All
By Myself, etc.

I think she really loved Dreams to Dream too… she recorded it during a point where she was trying to breakthrough in her English career and prove herself - and I hope we all get to hear her rendition someday.

[rodrigofreitas]

Let's talk about Love (album on Youtube)
# Videos
- Celine Dion - My Heart Will Go On (Official 25th Anniversary Alternate Music Video) 5,924,818
- Tell Him 58,061,585
- Immortality 59,278,399
# Studio Session
- The Reason 215,342
- Immortality 5,988,483
- Treat Her Like a Lady 91,167
- Tell Him 96,929 + 142,774
- Miles to Go 141,102
- Us 215,557
- I Hate You Then I Love You 370,978
- Let's Talk About Love 299,025
- Happy 25th Anniversary Let's Talk About Love 169,390
# Official Audio
- The Reason 313,626
- Immortality 197,086
- Treat Her Like a Lady 523,726
- Why Oh  Why 313,517
- Love is on the Way 492,866
- Tell Him 2,663,304
- Amar Haciendo el Amor 291,000
- When I Need You 6,055,000
- Miles to Go 447,402
- Us 1,014,536
- Just a Little Bit of Love 232,373
- My Heart Will Go On 21,005,000
- Where is the Love 556,271
- Be The Man 314,693
- I Hate You Then I Love You 554,245
- Let's Talk About Love 2,233,445
- To Love You More 54,189,112
TOTAL 219,392,751

Plus
- Immortality (Live in Las Vegas, 1997 - One Night Only) Bee Gees 115,223,076
- I Hate You Then I Love You (Live) Pavarotti 3,415,565

[smw]

The Colour of My Love is another big English song that Celine feels connected to. And there are stories where she went to bat for several of the English songs she recorded -- like Ten Days and the re-recording of Falling Into You so that she'd be satisfied with the final take. I think she has a deeper connection to her English material than we might give her credit for. She'd often sing a few lines from other songs like Let's Talk About Love in interviews/while meeting fans.

She tends to stick with the hits and crowd-pleasing covers for live performance because she always wants to put on an amazing show for general audiences. And deep cuts from her past albums is moreso for hardcore fans like us, which is a limited audience. With that said, it would have been wonderful for Celine to do a One Night Only for us big fans. Who knows, it might still happen one day.

Edited by smw, 26 July 2023 - 01:11 PM.

[ryba]

Some absolute must haves in Celines upcoming concert for me: Call the man, Immortality, A new day has come, I don’t know (this song has so much potential!), Love doesnt ask why

[CourageProject]

Well at least include A New Day Has Come that too the Radio Mix🌟

[PuraVida]

 ryba, on 27 July 2023 - 02:34 AM, said:

Some absolute must haves in Celines upcoming concert for me: Call the man, Immortality, A new day has come, I don't know (this song has so much potential!), Love doesnt ask why

It is odd how she never did "I Don't Know" in her tours, given how much she loves the song in her French tours.

 smw, on 26 July 2023 - 01:10 PM, said:

She tends to stick with the hits and crowd-pleasing covers for live performance because she always wants to put on an amazing show for general audiences.

I don't know, she pulled David Bowie and "You're The Voice" out of nowhere! And remember "Twist and Shout"?   I think she chose a lot of covers just because she loves them, and made them crowd pleasing because she's Celine...personally I could have done without "Let's Dance" and later versions of YTV.

Edited by PuraVida, 28 July 2023 - 04:22 AM.

[PuraVida]

What do you all think about the song "Let's Talk About Love"???

Like it? Loathe it?

[Derek F.]

 PuraVida, on 27 October 2023 - 09:07 PM, said:

What do you all think about the song "Let's Talk About Love"???

Like it? Loathe it?

Love the song! Very meaningful, heartfelt lyrics, and Celine sounds really good vocally on the track!

Edited by Derek F., 27 October 2023 - 09:17 PM.

[ordinary fan]

 PuraVida, on 27 October 2023 - 09:07 PM, said:

What do you all think about the song "Let's Talk About Love"???

Like it? Loathe it?

Love it

[Fanxiaoqiang]

 rodrigofreitas, on 26 July 2023 - 11:59 AM, said:

Let's talk about Love (album on Youtube)
# Videos
- Celine Dion - My Heart Will Go On (Official 25th Anniversary Alternate Music Video) 5,924,818
- Tell Him 58,061,585
- Immortality 59,278,399
# Studio Session
- The Reason 215,342
- Immortality 5,988,483
- Treat Her Like a Lady 91,167
- Tell Him 96,929 + 142,774
- Miles to Go 141,102
- Us 215,557
- I Hate You Then I Love You 370,978
- Let's Talk About Love 299,025
- Happy 25th Anniversary Let's Talk About Love 169,390
# Official Audio
- The Reason 313,626
- Immortality 197,086
- Treat Her Like a Lady 523,726
- Why Oh  Why 313,517
- Love is on the Way 492,866
- Tell Him 2,663,304
- Amar Haciendo el Amor 291,000
- When I Need You 6,055,000
- Miles to Go 447,402
- Us 1,014,536
- Just a Little Bit of Love 232,373
- My Heart Will Go On 21,005,000
- Where is the Love 556,271
- Be The Man 314,693
- I Hate You Then I Love You 554,245
- Let's Talk About Love 2,233,445
- To Love You More 54,189,112
TOTAL 219,392,751

Plus
- Immortality (Live in Las Vegas, 1997 - One Night Only) Bee Gees 115,223,076
- I Hate You Then I Love You (Live) Pavarotti 3,415,565

Poorly
- Immortality (Live in Las Vegas, 1997 - One Night Only) Bee Gees 115,223,076
This is not on Celine VEVO

[Abodi2002]

Sorry if this has been discussed here before, but what do you think about who love you more being included on the US version of this album? Personally, I think it fits more, maybe because that’s the version I grew up with. My grandma got the copy with 16 songs in the bonus CD, not sure which addition it is, But I was disappointed that to love you more was not included. I mean why put it on the Paris 1995 album, even though it’s not live?

[ryba]

Did you know that the song Let’s talk about love is a cover of JJGs French version of that song that he recorded and released some decades prior?

[LukeD]

 ryba, on 19 November 2023 - 09:50 AM, said:

Did you know that the song Let's talk about love is a cover of JJGs French version of that song that he recorded and released some decades prior?

Yes! Puisque tu pars! The original is beautiful as well but different to Celine's version.

[LukeD]

We might not realize this but half the LTAL album is covers:

01.Treat Her Like A Lady (original by Diane King)
02.Love Is On The Way (original by Billy Porter)
03.Amar Haciendo El Amor (original by Billy Mann)
04.When I Need You (original by Leo Sayer)
05.Just A Little Bit Of Love (cannot recall who sang this originally, but I believe it was first recorded in 1995)
06.I Hate You Then I Love You (original by Mina)
07.Let's Talk About Love (original by JJG)

By the way, this is pretty awesome:

[MaiconSC]

 ryba, on 19 November 2023 - 09:50 AM, said:

Did you know that the song Let's talk about love is a cover of JJGs French version of that song that he recorded and released some decades prior?

 LukeD, on 19 November 2023 - 09:59 AM, said:

Yes! Puisque tu pars! The original is beautiful as well but different to Celine's version.

Bryan Addams did the english version, and included new parts... I preffer Celine's version

[ryba]

 LukeD, on 19 November 2023 - 10:15 AM, said:

We might not realize this but half the LTAL album is covers:

01.Treat Her Like A Lady (original by Diane King)
02.Love Is On The Way (original by Billy Porter)
03.Amar Haciendo El Amor (original by Billy Mann)
04.When I Need You (original by Leo Sayer)
05.Just A Little Bit Of Love (cannot recall who sang this originally, but I believe it was first recorded in 1995)
06.I Hate You Then I Love You (original by Mina)
07.Let's Talk About Love (original by JJG)

By the way, this is pretty awesome:

Wow, I had no Idea. Thanks for sharing! The Billy Mann version is really good

Edited by ryba, 19 November 2023 - 11:29 AM.

[ryba]

 MaiconSC, on 19 November 2023 - 10:59 AM, said:

Bryan Addams did the english version, and included new parts... I preffer Celine's version

Bryan Adams covered it too? What’s the title?

[Davey84]

 ryba, on 19 November 2023 - 11:29 AM, said:

Bryan Adams covered it too? What’s the title?

Eeuh Let's Talk About Love!

It was released on his Cloud #9 single, not on one of his albums. I found his version drags on a bit. It's not as strong as Céline's version.
https://www.discogs....n-Adams-Cloud-9

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[MaiconSC]

 ryba, on 19 November 2023 - 11:29 AM, said:

Bryan Adams covered it too? What's the title?

I mean he wrote the english version for Celine... I didn't knew he recorded it too!

here he talks about it (43:52):



p.s.: they show a performance of Everything I Do that I never saw before... wish we would have it in full

Edited by MaiconSC, 19 November 2023 - 04:16 PM.

[MaiconSC]

 Davey84, on 19 November 2023 - 02:17 PM, said:

Eeuh Let's Talk About Love!

It was released on his Cloud #9 single, not on one of his albums. I found his version drags on a bit. It's not as strong as Céline's version.
https://www.discogs....n-Adams-Cloud-9

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I didn't knew he recorded it...
it sounds like the demo for Celine...

[Chantemoi]

 MaiconSC, on 19 November 2023 - 04:09 PM, said:

I mean he wrote the english version for Celine... I didn't knew he recorded it too!

here he talks about it (43:52):



p.s.: they show a performance of Everything I Do that I never saw before... wish we would have it in full

WOW so much footage from Chicago - which is proof enough to me that they filmed the entire show. Would have been nice to release it for the anniversary…

She said the clip of “Everything I Do…” is from Cannes - supposing that’s from her FIY tour. Love the 1996 versions more than the 1999 one. Her “I’d die for you” line and the final “…for you” are sublime!

[MaiconSC]

 Chantemoi, on 19 November 2023 - 07:23 PM, said:

WOW so much footage from Chicago - which is proof enough to me that they filmed the entire show. Would have been nice to release it for the anniversary…

She said the clip of "Everything I Do…" is from Cannes - supposing that's from her FIY tour. Love the 1996 versions more than the 1999 one. Her "I'd die for you" line and the final "…for you" are sublime!

Yes! but her costumes in this duet doesn't seem from the regular shows... maybe it was an event they both were at...
her vocals are amazing!

I love the footage from Chicago... isn't the S'il suffisait d'aimer live videoclip from that show also?

[Chantemoi]

 MaiconSC, on 19 November 2023 - 09:20 PM, said:

Yes! but her costumes in this duet doesn't seem from the regular shows... maybe it was an event they both were at...
her vocals are amazing!

Perhaps this special concert?
https://www.celinedi...-edition-midem/

 MaiconSC, on 19 November 2023 - 09:20 PM, said:

I love the footage from Chicago... isn't the S'il suffisait d'aimer live videoclip from that show also?

Yep! It was also the concert which I believe many fans consider her best LTAL Tour vocal of MHWGO, which we’ve heard in bootleg audio. And as a former Chicago resident, I’d especially love to see it!

** Edit: come to think of it, can anyone identify the performance they used in the opening of the Un An Avec doc? Is that vocal from Chicago, too?
https://youtu.be/0Zt...0CxTsszl9_b56l4

Edited by Chantemoi, 19 November 2023 - 11:27 PM.

[MaiconSC]

 Chantemoi, on 19 November 2023 - 11:19 PM, said:

Perhaps this special concert?
https://www.celinedi...-edition-midem/

I think it is!

 Chantemoi, on 19 November 2023 - 11:19 PM, said:

Yep! It was also the concert which I believe many fans consider her best LTAL Tour vocal of MHWGO, which we've heard in bootleg audio. And as a former Chicago resident, I'd especially love to see it!

** Edit: come to think of it, can anyone identify the performance they used in the opening of the Un An Avec doc? Is that vocal from Chicago, too?
https://youtu.be/0Zt...0CxTsszl9_b56l4

when comparing to the bootleg, it sounds the same...

I've been trying to identify from where comes the video from 03:26 (brown dress), but I can't find it...