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[CSCfan]

Btw, love the edit Bellamy....

[SHYRAH]

CSCfan, on Jun 1 2005, 07:03 AM, said:

SHYRAH, on Jun 1 2005, 01:50 PM, said:

WMA are ridiculous they'll say whatever their record company wants,just to have  spectacle..just like every single article TV appearance claims MAriah  is the biggest ever..it's all fake,what record companies want them to say.

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I mean, they (Soundscan, Sony, etc.) counted it for that event.... not for the organisation itself.. They didn't have to, but they did..

And they counted from '87, not '91, so it's not only Soundscan....
Either way Celine definately sold over 175 million albums now..  

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are you blind   ,she did not, it's evident,just take her IFPI and RIAA numbers and there's no way,Asia doesn't cover the missing part.
the only way she sold 175 million is if they count her singles in but in that case  than MAriah would surpass her and not to mention Madonna,she'd probably top them all.

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[SHYRAH]

Bellamy, on Jun 1 2005, 07:03 AM, said:

SONY had shipped tons of more Mariah albums than what she sold. I just don't believe her RIAA figure. and soundscan start track in 1991, Mariah hadn't sold 15 million in US before that for sure, even not 5 millions.

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Mariah's debut is certified 9 million in 1999 in US ,it's diamond now.
emotions are 4 X platinum
she had 5 #1 singles during that time.
and yes what's important is what they shipped,not what they sold,that's how it works.That's how certifications work.

Edited by SHYRAH, 01 June 2005 - 06:11 AM.

[SHYRAH]

oh and certifications are for shipped she may have sold only 8.9 million but shipped is what's certified and possibly Celine is under certified but that's how it works.

[Bellamy]

SHYRAH, on Jun 1 2005, 08:02 PM, said:

IFPI says All the way is 5X platinum in Europe in 2004,
so USA+Europe =11
if we take it sold 20 WWwhere did another 9 million come from,asia
http://www.ifpi.org/.../20040206a.html

OH is 1Xplatinum in Europe and A new day is 3Xplatinum
http://www.ifpi.org/...m/plat2003.html

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so where is Mariah's 150 million album figure come from? in IFPI Mariah have less only less than 10 platinum. add her RIAA figure 57 million. so you mean she had sold more than 83 million albums in Asia?    no wonder she is the best selling female artist of all time worldwide.

[CSCfan]

Bellamy, on Jun 1 2005, 02:16 PM, said:

so where is Mariah's 150 million album figure come from? in IFPI Mariah have less only less than 10 platinum. add her RIAA figure 57 million. so you mean she had sold more than 83 million albums in Asia?    no wonder she is the best selling female artist of all time worldwide.   

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[SHYRAH]

Bellamy, on Jun 1 2005, 07:16 AM, said:

SHYRAH, on Jun 1 2005, 08:02 PM, said:

IFPI says All the way is 5X platinum in Europe in 2004,
so USA+Europe =11
if we take it sold 20 WWwhere did another 9 million come from,asia
http://www.ifpi.org/.../20040206a.html

OH is 1Xplatinum in Europe and A new day is 3Xplatinum
http://www.ifpi.org/...m/plat2003.html

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so where is Mariah's 150 million album figure come from? in IFPI Mariah have less only less than 10 platinum. add her RIAA figure 57 million. so you mean she had sold more than 83 million albums in Asia?    no wonder she is the best selling female artist of all time worldwide.

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oh i think Mariah's numbers are fake as well..but i think her record company counts her single sales in ,they always say records sold and she is the biggest selling female in Japan ever,she holds record for  4 biggest albums ever there.
but i think her numbers are as fake as Celine's

Edited by SHYRAH, 01 June 2005 - 06:22 AM.

[CSCfan]

that's not all that's fake..   

[SHYRAH]

CSCfan, on Jun 1 2005, 07:24 AM, said:

that's not all that's fake..  

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,they are fake in my book

Edited by SHYRAH, 01 June 2005 - 06:25 AM.

[Bellamy]

so why argue? Barbra's, Modonna's numbers are as fake too. just believe what you think is true.

[SHYRAH]

Bellamy, on Jun 1 2005, 07:24 AM, said:

so why argue? Barbra's, Modonna's numbers are as fake too. just believe what you think is true.

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exactly, that's why i responded here cause kids take everything for granted what some R.company says

[nano]

numbers and numbers I don't care about the numbers... Numbers can't sing or dance, I'm not a fan because the numbers     

[nano]

   Just deleting my post...'cause it was here twice

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[CSCfan]

nano, on Jun 1 2005, 02:30 PM, said:

numbers and numbers I don't care about the numbers... Numbers can't sing or dance, I'm not a fan because the numbers    

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Great point.... me neither..  
"I'm [Celine is] the best singer...in the whoooooooooooole world"

  

[EL1973]

I 'm glad to see a topic for Mariah in Celine's forum (started by phoebus69!!!!!!!!)!

I am a big fan of her and i think that she has THE VOICE and to make #1 on Hot 100 is not just a matter of enlarged boobs or ONE (maybe!) photoshoped pic for the cover of the album!

Her sucess is so BIG so now everyone talks about the COME BACK of the diva!

I also wanna say that i love Celine too!

[EL1973]

And the 16 number 1 i don't think that happened accidantally.......

[EL1973]

Ronny83, on May 27 2005, 08:25 AM, said:

mariahcarey.com confirmed she sold 150 million albums, pretending she is "the top-selling female artist in history".

But Céline sold 175 million albums. So?

I highly doubt Mariah can sell 25 milion copies of "The Emancipation Of Mimi" to reach Céline. 

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You are unfair!

CEline has 20 albums and Mariah only 10!
Can anyone compare?

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[EL1973]

Koolan, on May 27 2005, 02:03 AM, said:

Geez, I thought Oprah already state it clearly that Celine is the best selling female artist of all-time. Just the lousy 2 million albums sold won't put Mariah in the lead now. The Insider =

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Mariah Carey (born March 27, 1970 in Huntington, New York) is an American popular music singer, songwriter, record producer, music video director, and actress, who rose to prominence in the 1990s. Carey's music has been influenced by rhythm and blues, pop, gospel, hip hop, and rock and roll. She is credited as having a five-octave vocal range, possibly the greatest range of any popular singer. She makes lavish use of melisma; her vocal swoops and trills are an easily recognized feature of her sound.

Surveys have placed Carey as one of the best-selling female recording artists ever worldwide. She was also the top-selling recording artist of any kind during the 1990s. Her singles have spent more weeks at No. 1 than any other living artist in Billboard history. Carey's vocal style influenced a generation of singers who came after her, including Christina Aguilera and Beyoncé Knowles as well as many American Idol competitors.


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[VinnyT.]

I think someone lost the right way..first of all i think this is a celine's forum or am i wrong? then i dont understand why all mariah's fans need to proove everytime that mariah is the best,the most pretty and so on..I personally dont care anything about mariah and I'm very tired of all those topics.ok mariah sold 150 millions of albums..good for her,celine 175 millions so?mariah has 16 n1 singles?elvis and the beatles more than her!who cares?i dont think elvis and paul mc cartney had a party mariah's latest album is doing "well" only in the Usa such a flop in the rest of the world!(since now it sold less than 2 millions world wide fans says it's a successfull album ) once again who cares? she has a party for each good step...so why we dont talk about her 2 last flop albums? enough is enough...its usless posting banners with WBT and so on...WHO CARES?  

[Ronny83]

VinnyT., on Jun 2 2005, 12:30 AM, said:

mariah has 16 n1 singles?elvis and the beatles more than her!who cares?i dont think elvis and paul mc cartney had a party she has a party for each good step

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[VinnyT.]

phoebus_69, on May 26 2005, 06:47 PM, said:

I am very worried about Celine's carreer. Everybody thought that Mariah (the diva with the most #1 ) has failed, but this week her "we belong together" is #1 after 5 years. Do you believe that Celine can make another #1? Do you think that she has "failed" at Billboard's Hot 100? My opinion is that Celine can't, because pop has "died".    

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I personally dont think Celine needs one more #1 on billboard hot 100 she must not proove anything,she has her amazing carreer,she hit vegas with a big show all her sold out nights...dont u think these are great steps from her?I do think so!as she said people thought she was crazy to move to vegas to do a show like that,they were wrong she is still on top after more than 2 years!Once again Mariah got here #16 n1 she needed it she has to proove that she was still"alive"even we listened to her live,she cant sing anymore in her recording studio she can do everything she wants! .We all know that Universal Music bought digital downloads and let fans download them for free in the way to help WBT to climb the chart they did the same with Gwen Stefani..they cheated we all know..so who cares? :rolleyes:In italy they decided to stop the cd singles sells hoping people will buy the album not finding singles in stores anymore.In USA They tried their best to let mariah have her #16 n1 to let press talks about that and so on this is marketing kids!,mariah needed to be loved again after her 2 big flop albums..they are on the right way to let a fallen diva shine again   

[Bellamy]

EL1973, on Jun 2 2005, 06:03 AM, said:

Carey's vocal style influenced a generation of singers who came after her, including Christina Aguilera and Beyoncé Knowles as well as many American Idol competitors.

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wikipedia is a bad source. and this is written by lambs for sure.
yeah, Carey's vocal style influenced a generation of witches who can scream only.      

[VinnyT.]

yeah for sure lambs wrote that..each person with sane brain couldnt write she is also an"actress"    oh she is also a music video director GOSH this girl never stop to impress me

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[CSCfan]

Bellamy, on Jun 2 2005, 01:12 AM, said:

Carey's vocal style influenced a generation of witches who can scream only.     

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[Koolan]

Actually, Mariah's album sales did well during the first half of the 90s wheras Celine ruled the other half. Celine has the International appeal which Mariah lacks.      

[SHYRAH]

Koolan, on Jun 1 2005, 08:05 PM, said:

Actually, Mariah's album sales did well during the first half of the 90s wheras Celine ruled the other half. Celine has the International appeal which Mariah lacks.     

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international appeal...i guess that's why MAriah is introduced as the biggest selling female ever on every single show she's been on recently in US.Also how come she's the biggest ever in Japan and Asia
Celine has international appeal?..OH sold 1 million in US and another million in Europe   

meanwhile Mariah scanned another 180.000. copies in US this week with few percent increase from last week  and is expected to come @#1 again next week on Billboard hot 200 albums.
Her single WBT remains #1   

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[Bellamy]

SHYRAH, on Jun 2 2005, 11:43 AM, said:

international appeal...i guess that's why MAriah is introduced as the biggest selling female ever on every single show she's been on recently in US.Also how come she's the biggest ever in Japan and Asia
Celine has international appeal?..OH sold 1 million in US and another million in Europe  

meanwhile Mariah scanned another 180.000. copies in US this week with few percent increase from last week  and is expected to come @#1 again next week on Billboard hot 200 albums.
Her single WBT remains #1  

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maybe in Japan it's true, but not in asia, at least not in China. Celine is the best known singer in China cause of MHWGO, most people don't know which song Mariah sang or who she is. and Celine has the best selling single by Female artist, and best selling single in decades in Japan.

compare OH to Mariah's Charmbracelet. and ANDHC to MIMI. Celine still sold many more.    and Celine almost did no promo for OH album at all. while Mariah always promo her albums, singles in every way, including use her HUGE boobs.  

[juan_]

what they pass and they say by television and radio they are only numbers!  that makes to look for it press...

[piglot82]

Man...such hostility in this topic.  For a minute I thought I was the other site (which I will not name )