québecflower Posted June 9, 2016 at 08:02 PM Posted June 9, 2016 at 08:02 PM I'm not sure I got what you wanted to say... Does that mean you want to go for my jugular for what I wrote? But I never insulted anyone, unless HE insulted and called me names before i was not thinking about the past...always the present, i'm a lot like Celine that way... today is a great day. Quote Plus qu'ailleurs , but now Si c'était à refaire , i still love tant de temps....
Javito Posted June 9, 2016 at 08:04 PM Posted June 9, 2016 at 08:04 PM (edited) If this is going to get her name out there.... I don't see it as a bad thing... Kev x As if she needed it, Kev! Celine Dion is known for being a renowned singer -and always will be- not the cousin of IKEA or the famous face of PRIMARK altogether . As Marcin cleverly pointed out, now that there's a new manager they had the chance to focus 100% on what she does BEST and make them the best they can, not mediocre. But no... Edited June 9, 2016 at 08:05 PM by Javito 2 Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
québecflower Posted June 9, 2016 at 08:08 PM Posted June 9, 2016 at 08:08 PM so disappointing... Of course, it's another way to make money and actually they could do whatever they want to if it wasn't detrimental to her main domain which is music. I wouldn't really mind it if she continued focusing on music, new sounds, new albums, good promotion, good music videos, but no, they want to launch another thing. Instead of focusing 100% on things she does best and to make them successful they will do bunch of mediocre things. Bye bye music videos, bye bye original songs... bye bye well-produced albums... Welcome to Celine Dion Home, buy your TV set or cd player with Celine Dion logo, but remember you can only play old covers using them.but she did some great things lately. I don't know what some wants at this point. Billboard was great. I did like the AMA's super good, one of her more emotionnal performance . Her french song is super. It seems that she goes more in the emotion now, even in english, something that was missing sometimes. We will see the best of her i think. 4 Quote Plus qu'ailleurs , but now Si c'était à refaire , i still love tant de temps....
flutefreak Posted June 9, 2016 at 08:18 PM Posted June 9, 2016 at 08:18 PM (edited) I'm interested in the age group they are marketing to. You know, the people who are already fans or trying to make new younger fans? Don't know what to think... Edited June 9, 2016 at 08:21 PM by flutefreak 2 Quote
DionFanAlways Posted June 9, 2016 at 08:18 PM Posted June 9, 2016 at 08:18 PM you just always want wine... I know but they really sounded good! Quote I have had the time of my life following this woman! Much love.
comingback Posted June 9, 2016 at 08:27 PM Posted June 9, 2016 at 08:27 PM (edited) http://www.thefieldg...t-marketing.htm What can Celine Dion Teach You About Marketing December 5, 2007What do you think a woman who has sold more than 200 million albums worldwide might be able to teach you about marketing?She could teach all of us a lot. In all marketing, there’s a formula.If you’ve made the rounds on the talk show circuit in the last few weeks, by now you know Celine Dion has a new CD (Taking Chances) out. In showbiz, there’s a marketing formula. It looks something like this:1. Create CD, Movie, etc. (this could be your program or product)2. Set up tour or movie launch date (this could be your launch date)3. Set up PR interviews on television, radio, newspaper, web – anywhere the customer is (this could be how you let others know about your launch) and other marketing tactics4. Promote like crazy (show up for those press interviews and such) and let your customers get a ‘taste’ of what they can get with the actual product5. Launch Tour (launch product or program)So many people think marketing is a ‘one-off’ item that needs to be done ‘until’ you’ve made it. When in reality, marketing is never done. It is never over. It is always something that will require your attention. Experts like Dan Kennedy suggest that marketing IS your business. That would mean that Celine is a marketer who just happens to have a talent for singing! When you follow this line of thinking, you realize that no matter how talented you are if marketing doesn’t happen, people will not know about what you are doing, and if people don’t know what you are doing then they can’t buy what you have.Celine is a great example of this. In 2004, she was presented with the Chopard Diamond Award from the World Music Awards show for becoming the “Best-selling Female Artist in the World.” In April 2007 Sony BMG announced that Celine Dion had sold more than 200 million albums worldwide. If Celine must promote each CD and each tour, then so do you! Celine does what she loves when she markets, so on Oprah she mixed and mingled with fans and made some lucky individual’s wildest dreams come true. She also sings and shares a taste of her product. She performs with all of her heart and gives 100 percent on each show.You can do this too! If you love to gab, go toward radio appearances. If you prefer to be flamboyant, try some outrageous marketing promotions. Go where your customers are and give it all you’ve got by planning the steps and then carrying those out! Edited June 9, 2016 at 08:28 PM by comingback Quote
Jamieb12321 Posted June 9, 2016 at 08:40 PM Posted June 9, 2016 at 08:40 PM Well ultimately she had to say yes to this right? So I don't blame Aldo all the way. I don't know what to think of this step yet.The more stuff i can get with celine all over it the happier i will be 😎😎 1 Quote
CelinesDIVO5 Posted June 9, 2016 at 08:44 PM Posted June 9, 2016 at 08:44 PM you just always want wine... I always have wine Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
incognito Posted June 9, 2016 at 08:46 PM Posted June 9, 2016 at 08:46 PM I always have wine Yeah. You're like Olivia Pope. 3 Quote
Celine Fan 77 Posted June 9, 2016 at 08:47 PM Posted June 9, 2016 at 08:47 PM Absolutely NOT a fan of this idea. She is an artist and, as an artist, any "natural extension" of her career should be related to art. 4 Quote Tournée Européenne in Paris (December 1, 2013)Céline Dion Live 2016 in Antwerp (June 20, 2016)Céline Dion Live 2017 in Birmingham (July 27, 2017)
Kyle_Jared Posted June 9, 2016 at 08:50 PM Posted June 9, 2016 at 08:50 PM I'm all for it! lol. Quote
Javito Posted June 9, 2016 at 08:51 PM Posted June 9, 2016 at 08:51 PM (edited) Absolutely NOT a fan of this idea. She is an artist and, as an artist, any "natural extension" of her career should be related to art. In Céline's world the word "art" would include creating her parfums in 2003 LOL :whistling:I'm not questioning that creating the fragance for a parfum if it's enough original could be an artistic process too, but with this new lifestyle line that may include such random products as home goods, more sunglasess and underwear, maybe she's going too far with her "art" here? Edited June 9, 2016 at 08:51 PM by Javito 1 Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
stevo Posted June 9, 2016 at 09:58 PM Posted June 9, 2016 at 09:58 PM Will she have any I out into the 'design' of these goods? Really? I'm sceptical. So many artists have their own 'range' of products. Doesn't Lionel Ritchie have a new kitchenware range? It bores me. I'd rather she stick to singing Quote
celinesounds Posted June 9, 2016 at 10:38 PM Posted June 9, 2016 at 10:38 PM Maybe she will get her own program at Q TV Store 1 Quote #FREEJAVITO
Cuquito Posted June 9, 2016 at 10:40 PM Posted June 9, 2016 at 10:40 PM I hope they will not sell her products in JCPenney or Kmart like a bunch of other celebrities... So cheap!! 2 Quote
nuts2you Posted June 9, 2016 at 11:00 PM Posted June 9, 2016 at 11:00 PM Now I wonder if she will even go on QVC/ HSN Like she did with the tour DVD /CD Quote
couldawouldashoulda Posted June 9, 2016 at 11:24 PM Posted June 9, 2016 at 11:24 PM I know many people won't like this but it makes absolute sense to me. I've always considered Celine a singer & performer, never an artist. As she gets older, her voice will eventually fade and she won't be able to do as many live concerts as she used to (which is where she makes the bulk of her paycheck) a la Streisand. Whereas Streisand has residuals of all of her films to fall back on (not to mention charging $750 for floor seats for the general public when she DOES tour - and several thousand for VIP), Celine needs something to keep her in the lifestyle to which she has become accustomed as she gets older. Being a "brand" of home goods and clothing will do just that. Smart business woman! 5 Quote
DionFanAlways Posted June 9, 2016 at 11:55 PM Posted June 9, 2016 at 11:55 PM The more stuff i can get with celine all over it the happier i will be I think this could be a smart business move. I want her to be happy. Quote I have had the time of my life following this woman! Much love.
québecflower Posted June 10, 2016 at 12:55 AM Posted June 10, 2016 at 12:55 AM I hope they will not sell her products in JCPenney or Kmart like a bunch of other celebrities... So cheap!!i would like it to be not cheap stuff...Wallmarde would be the worst. Quote Plus qu'ailleurs , but now Si c'était à refaire , i still love tant de temps....
québecflower Posted June 10, 2016 at 01:01 AM Posted June 10, 2016 at 01:01 AM I know many people won't like this but it makes absolute sense to me. I've always considered Celine a singer & performer, never an artist. As she gets older, her voice will eventually fade and she won't be able to do as many live concerts as she used to (which is where she makes the bulk of her paycheck) a la Streisand. Whereas Streisand has residuals of all of her films to fall back on (not to mention charging $750 for floor seats for the general public when she DOES tour - and several thousand for VIP), Celine needs something to keep her in the lifestyle to which she has become accustomed as she gets older. Being a "brand" of home goods and clothing will do just that. Smart business woman! She creates emotion, she has impact on people, she influences the lives and their way of thinking, she is an artist. This is the definition of an artist. 6 Quote Plus qu'ailleurs , but now Si c'était à refaire , i still love tant de temps....
CelineDionFreak Posted June 10, 2016 at 01:04 AM Posted June 10, 2016 at 01:04 AM (edited) She creates emotion, she has impact on people, she influences the lives and their way of thinking, she is an artist. This is the definition of an artist.THIS^^^^ 10000000%!!!! Edited June 10, 2016 at 01:04 AM by CelineDionFreak 1 Quote I didn't know love until they loved me back to life because somebody loves somebody!Le temps qui compte pour Celine est maintenant!
Xpresso Posted June 10, 2016 at 01:11 AM Posted June 10, 2016 at 01:11 AM Well it's not like she will start going to retail stores and sell her pillows and shoes herself. She can do whatever she wants to. Who are we to say she should only do this and that... bla bla...When you have done the same job for about 35 years, most people would also want to try something different - without necessarily giving up their first love completely... 4 Quote
scielle Posted June 10, 2016 at 03:14 AM Posted June 10, 2016 at 03:14 AM This makes me cringe. But mostly, it just makes me sad. Sad that Aldo's focus is on slapping her logo on stuff rather than what she's actually great at - you know, singing! Sad at how such a crass and commercial move will dilute her musical legacy. Sad that he'd rather do this than help her explore new creative avenues as an artist. Sad that Celine would actually agree to do this. Is she really in such dire need of cash? This, and the real estate firesales...you've got to wonder. Sure, she'll make good money off of this, but at what cost? She'll lose a lot more in terms of respect, and any good will she may have amassed over these past few months from people who were just about to turn the corner and give her due recognition for her work. And just as she's making some of her most artistically significant music (Encore un Soir and this upcoming album seem so promising!) Really difficult to respect her as an artist when the focus is so clearly on $$$ rather than music. So yeah, as a long-time fan, this really broke my heart. 3 Quote
gafsa Posted June 10, 2016 at 03:34 AM Posted June 10, 2016 at 03:34 AM I see no problem as long as she continue making music and I think she will always be a singer. 2 Quote
SuperLove4Celine Posted June 10, 2016 at 03:36 AM Posted June 10, 2016 at 03:36 AM She creates emotion, she has impact on people, she influences the lives and their way of thinking, she is an artist. This is the definition of an artist. Hitler did the same thing. That doesn't mean he was an artist. 2 Quote
gafsa Posted June 10, 2016 at 03:39 AM Posted June 10, 2016 at 03:39 AM Hitler did the same thing. That doesn't mean he was an artist. Because what Hitler did has nothing to do with art 😆 1 Quote
scielle Posted June 10, 2016 at 03:52 AM Posted June 10, 2016 at 03:52 AM (edited) Because what Hitler did has nothing to do with art �� Well, he WAS a painter... https://en.wikipedia...by_Adolf_Hitler Edited June 10, 2016 at 03:54 AM by scielle 1 Quote
québecflower Posted June 10, 2016 at 03:52 AM Posted June 10, 2016 at 03:52 AM Hitler did the same thing. That doesn't mean he was an artist.i should have add the word positive. But when it is positive, people thinks less of it, the whining and the negativity will always have better press. And people who whine have always the tendancy to think they say intelligent things, positivity is for the losers. And putting Celine and Hitler in the same sentence, wow. It takes a lot of imagination. If Hitler would have pursue his first interest, drawings, we would not talk about him today. 4 Quote Plus qu'ailleurs , but now Si c'était à refaire , i still love tant de temps....
SuperLove4Celine Posted June 10, 2016 at 04:08 AM Posted June 10, 2016 at 04:08 AM (edited) i should have add the word positive. But when it is positive, people thinks less of it, the whining and the negativity will always have better press. And people who whine have always the tendancy to think they say intelligent things, positivity is for the losers. And putting Celine and Hitler in the same sentence, wow. It takes a lot of imagination. If Hitler would have pursue his first interest, drawings, we would not talk about him today. The point I'm trying to make is just because someone does the things you listed, doesn't automaticalky make them an artist. For the most part, all Celine does is sing the words somebody else wrote and hits the notes someone else tells her to hit. Until she starts being more involved in the creation process, I will continue to view her as an amazing vocalist/entertainer, but not an artist. Edited June 10, 2016 at 04:09 AM by SuperLove4Celine 2 Quote
québecflower Posted June 10, 2016 at 04:15 AM Posted June 10, 2016 at 04:15 AM The point I'm trying to make is just because someone does the things you listed, doesn't automaticalky make them an artist. For the most part, all Celine does is sing the words somebody else wrote and hits the notes someone else tells her to hit. Until she starts being more involved in the creation process, I will continue to view her as an amazing vocalist/entertainer, but not an artist.if Jean-Jacques Goldman is so good and Celine is just singing the words, why isn't he able to write songs that are as good for others. She is an inspiration, i think she has as much to do with the songs as him. He is writing for her, but it could be her words. But i will let it like that, you have the right to think like you want. but there is always this tendancy to see Celine for less that she is. Her succes is not hers, it's René, the authors , the producers, etc , and Celine is too humble to bring it back to her a little. She could say she writes her songs like Beyonce even if it ain't true. 4 Quote Plus qu'ailleurs , but now Si c'était à refaire , i still love tant de temps....
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