Ororo Munroe Posted February 23, 2015 at 01:08 PM Posted February 23, 2015 at 01:08 PM I know there is topic which is dedicated to youtube videos that we can share, but I thought the time to create a new topic about a guy which likes to spread fake videos on youtube with live performances of Céline whith wrong keys..... He is totally insane, he wants to make believe that the song is sung in a higher key.... Best example is this : Exemple : the video he did on the prayer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjNfkbQr5zc The real key.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM0lcnechaM another example Fake video with wrong key https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBeeyNLQb-A Real vidéo....with the good key https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ChsXqRoTmE We have to stop him ! 1 Quote
DionFanAlways Posted February 23, 2015 at 02:04 PM Posted February 23, 2015 at 02:04 PM How? Quote I have had the time of my life following this woman! Much love.
Ororo Munroe Posted February 24, 2015 at 05:09 AM Author Posted February 24, 2015 at 05:09 AM Spread the message Quote
Duchess Posted February 24, 2015 at 06:28 AM Posted February 24, 2015 at 06:28 AM where does he actually state this???? Quote http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/Duchess_Nicol/flower20cropped.jpg
woodstock Posted February 24, 2015 at 11:14 AM Posted February 24, 2015 at 11:14 AM Maybe this guy has problems with the audio part of the software he uses and this is not made on purpose ? 3 Quote
Ororo Munroe Posted February 24, 2015 at 02:34 PM Author Posted February 24, 2015 at 02:34 PM Maybe this guy has problems with the audio part of the software he uses and this is not made on purpose ? I had already tried to contact him few years ago and he was very mad and angry when I told him that it was not really honest to make believe those type of things. He erased each message I posted on his wall and told me to go to the hell. So in my opinion, it's not a software problem but more a mental problem. He used the videos and the audios of others without asking permission and change key for all of them.... weird. 2 Quote
woodstock Posted February 24, 2015 at 08:28 PM Posted February 24, 2015 at 08:28 PM What's the point ? Regarding what you say, it's made on purpose and obviously it is silly ! Quote
Ororo Munroe Posted February 25, 2015 at 04:55 AM Author Posted February 25, 2015 at 04:55 AM This guy made 20 000 000 views with the prayer with a fake vidéo ! I am sure he has a count on the forum. Quote
Angel2006 Posted February 25, 2015 at 06:58 AM Posted February 25, 2015 at 06:58 AM This person isn't doing any harm posting these videos, so at the end of the day, who cares really. It's know big deal in my opinion. Nothing is real in today's world anyways, with photo shop and auto tune. I really don't see this being any different. People edit and change things to suit there preference of what they think is perfect. This person obviously has alot of passion for Celine, like we all do and isn't doing any harm by changing a pitch of a song hear and there, so I say we just let him or her do there thing and just leave them alone. Think of it this way, This could be this person's passion. They might not have a lot that keeps there life full and happy. Maybe making these fake videos is this person's one and only joy, something that helps pass the time and makes them happy. Whoever this person is they might live a lonely life with not a lot that makes them happy. What will having this person's videos removed really accomplish? He's not harming anyone and having the videos removed could take away one of this person's only joys in life. He or she is just expressing there own creative outlet and yes, he or she might not be fully mentally stable, but all the more reason to just let it be. At the end of the day, He or she isn't trying to highlight Celine in a bad way. You can tell that this person truly cares for Celine. Some people might not understand it, but I don't think that give us the right to try and take down this person's videos. There's know nasty or disturbing content in the videos that this youtube user chooses to post, so I really don't see any harm in it. 1 Quote
Ororo Munroe Posted February 25, 2015 at 07:55 AM Author Posted February 25, 2015 at 07:55 AM (edited) This person isn't doing any harm posting these videos, so at the end of the day, who cares really. It's know big deal in my opinion. Nothing is real in today's world anyways, with photo shop and auto tune. I really don't see this being any different. People edit and change things to suit there preference of what they think is perfect. This person obviously has alot of passion for Celine, like we all do and isn't doing any harm by changing a pitch of a song hear and there, so I say we just let him or her do there thing and just leave them alone. Think of it this way, This could be this person's passion. They might not have a lot that keeps there life full and happy. Maybe making these fake videos is this person's one and only joy, something that helps pass the time and makes them happy. Whoever this person is they might live a lonely life with not a lot that makes them happy. What will having this person's videos removed really accomplish? He's not harming anyone and having the videos removed could take away one of this person's only joys in life. He or she is just expressing there own creative outlet and yes, he or she might not be fully mentally stable, but all the more reason to just let it be. At the end of the day, He or she isn't trying to highlight Celine in a bad way. You can tell that this person truly cares for Celine. Some people might not understand it, but I don't think that give us the right to try and take down this person's videos. There's know nasty or disturbing content in the videos that this youtube user chooses to post, so I really don't see any harm in it. This is not my point of view at all, I don't agree with each point you presented. I am really sorry to say that's the big problem of our time, make believe people in fake things. It would not be a problem if his videos were not famous, I am sorry but if for you 20 millions views is nothing for a fake video on Celine Dion, it's totally insane. So because I have a passion for this artist, I would be allowed to do what I want.... and stupid things ! Are you serious ? Edited February 25, 2015 at 07:57 AM by Ororo Munroe Quote
browseceline Posted February 25, 2015 at 09:03 AM Posted February 25, 2015 at 09:03 AM One thing that i immediately thought of is that he lowered the pitch because he wanted to avoid havng copyright problems on youtube! Youtube has a build in function that kind of listens to the audio and matches it with a database of known songs. If you lower the pitch with audacity for example you can fool that function. That's why. Nothing more nothing less 3 Quote <iframe width="640" height="390" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/hl2XkxnYljg" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Angel2006 Posted February 25, 2015 at 09:32 AM Posted February 25, 2015 at 09:32 AM This is not my point of view at all, I don't agree with each point you presented. I am really sorry to say that's the big problem of our time, make believe people in fake things. It would not be a problem if his videos were not famous, I am sorry but if for you 20 millions views is nothing for a fake video on Celine Dion, it's totally insane. So because I have a passion for this artist, I would be allowed to do what I want.... and stupid things ! Are you serious ? I agree with alot of the points you made. I don't agree with this person misleading fans into thinking that Celine sounds a certain way when she doesn't. I guess that's the only thing I have a problem with. I never thought of how many viewers have probably watched these videos, thinking something was true when it isn't. I could see how it would bother a lot of Celine fans because this user is representing false advertisement in a way. I guess I just never saw it as a big deal because this persons videos weren't harming anyone, but I never really thought about it from your point of view before. I don't know. Everyone has there own opinions about people who post these kinds of videos. I don't really know what to say about it. I still think that everyone has the right to post the videos that they want to post, but maybe there should be some type of law that people can't drastically alter a performance, but then that would make it pretty much impossible for people to make remixes and mash ups of songs, so I don't know how to solve that. 2 Quote
couldawouldashoulda Posted February 25, 2015 at 01:12 PM Posted February 25, 2015 at 01:12 PM I am really sorry to say that's the big problem of our time, make believe people in fake things. You mean like lip-synching to your own songs but make people believe that you're actually on stage singing live? Quote
Ororo Munroe Posted February 25, 2015 at 01:30 PM Author Posted February 25, 2015 at 01:30 PM You mean like lip-synching to your own songs but make people believe that you're actually on stage singing live? Please..... It sounds so ridiculous.... Pathetic 1 Quote
Neddo Posted February 25, 2015 at 03:09 PM Posted February 25, 2015 at 03:09 PM Videos that Ororo posted just prove that Celine can do circles around her songs she usually lips. Quote http://imageshack.us/a/img138/7804/5tq2.png
Ororo Munroe Posted February 25, 2015 at 03:34 PM Author Posted February 25, 2015 at 03:34 PM ? Quote
Neddo Posted February 26, 2015 at 08:27 PM Posted February 26, 2015 at 08:27 PM ? unpitched of course Quote http://imageshack.us/a/img138/7804/5tq2.png
Duchess Posted February 28, 2015 at 12:05 PM Posted February 28, 2015 at 12:05 PM do you perhaps have a problem with this person posting on youtube? it would seem so. you have attacked every single video he has posted and yet I have listened to the same video posted by another person and it is the exact same sound. this has to stop now. this is starting to get a bit ridiculous to say the least. find a hobby please and stop starting arguments with people. 3 Quote http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/Duchess_Nicol/flower20cropped.jpg
Ororo Munroe Posted February 28, 2015 at 04:29 PM Author Posted February 28, 2015 at 04:29 PM (edited) do you perhaps have a problem with this person posting on youtube? it would seem so. you have attacked every single video he has posted and yet I have listened to the same video posted by another person and it is the exact same sound. this has to stop now. this is starting to get a bit ridiculous to say the least. find a hobby please and stop starting arguments with people. I have nothing against the person, I don't even know who he or she is, but if people are happy about the fact that somoene spread fake videos on youtube. If you consider that he or she did not change the key.... you should buy new hears.... Fake keyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JacIqO51deg Good keyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUWZ0F5U2og Duration of both videos is the same, so he edited the video...just to make people believe she sing in a higher a key or in the original key. Sometimes it sounds funny Real key SO THAT's MY BIG PROBLEM Edited February 28, 2015 at 04:41 PM by Ororo Munroe Quote
Duchess Posted February 28, 2015 at 07:32 PM Posted February 28, 2015 at 07:32 PM oh my word, both water and a flame and the singing in the bathroom from both videos sound exactly the same. what media do you have that is distorting the sound? enough with this already. stop it's getting too much and it's becoming tiresome now. 1 Quote http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/Duchess_Nicol/flower20cropped.jpg
Neddo Posted February 28, 2015 at 09:12 PM Posted February 28, 2015 at 09:12 PM I can actually hear a difference in pitch. Maybe 1/4 or 1/3 more pitch 1 Quote http://imageshack.us/a/img138/7804/5tq2.png
Ororo Munroe Posted February 28, 2015 at 09:15 PM Author Posted February 28, 2015 at 09:15 PM I can actually hear a difference in pitch. Maybe 1/4 or 1/3 more pitch Sometimes it's near 1/2 (The prayer) Quote
Ororo Munroe Posted February 28, 2015 at 09:17 PM Author Posted February 28, 2015 at 09:17 PM (edited) oh my word, both water and a flame and the singing in the bathroom from both videos sound exactly the same. what media do you have that is distorting the sound? enough with this already. stop it's getting too much and it's becoming tiresome now. You should really buy new ears Especially if you don't hear no differencies here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjNfkbQr5zc The real key.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM0lcnechaM Edited February 28, 2015 at 09:20 PM by Ororo Munroe Quote
Neddo Posted March 1, 2015 at 11:38 AM Posted March 1, 2015 at 11:38 AM I think that there is no need to annoy people with comments like "buy new Hears" etc. 1 Quote http://imageshack.us/a/img138/7804/5tq2.png
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