Should "Falling Into You" have had a 4th US/North American Single?

[Kyle_Jared]

Celine was on fire in 96-97 with this monster album, and 'striking' while the iron is hot of course is key. Coming off of three huge singles and all top tens on the Billboard Hot 100 (Because you loved me #1, It's all coming back to me now #2, and All by myself #4), personally I think a 4th single should have been released to the North American market. Europe got "Call the Man". In Canada and the states it stopped after "All By Myself." Any thoughts as to why this happened? and if a fourth single had to be released what would have done the best in this market?

 

Personally, I think "Seduces Me", could have been a pretty big hit in the states or even "Call the man".

 

Thoughts?

[Alex_Incognito]

You're 15 years too late! lol

(God, it only feels like 6 or 8!)

[Javito]

Please, give this album a rest... yes is great, but it already had the greater number of singles worldwide

 

What this album started in terms of wide and big promotion should (and could) have been continued with LTAL, All The Way and above all, ANDHC. But they just simply didn't do many efforts. Gert over it...

[Dionesque]

I love "Seduces Me", "Make You Happy" would make a good single probably.

But what does it change for today?...

Keep listen to that masterpiece and look towards the future.

[NancyxxM]

I am just looking forward to the future albums

[Matias]

Celin e was "discovered" by so many people (including me) around 1996, so she was the big sensation back then, because her singles from FIY ( IACBTN and BYLM) were huge success, and then she won album of the year. She was on a roll back then, she now has a name of her own, and like she says "has nothing to prove anymore" so...maybe she, Rene & team got a little bit lazy over the years....

[RomualdlovesCeline]

Those were the singles released for FIY according to wikipedia; the singles weren't all worldwide released but in selected countries:

 

1."Falling into You"

Released: February 19, 1996

2."Because You Loved Me"

Released: February 19, 1996

3."It's All Coming Back to Me Now"

Released: July 29, 1996

4."The Power of the Dream"

Released: August 20, 1996

5."All by Myself"

Released: October 7, 1996

6."Call the Man"

Released: June 23, 1997

7."Make You Happy"

Released: July 7, 1997

8."Dreamin' of You"

Released: July 14, 1997

[Dionesque]

That's true but ome of these were relesed loclly only, for example "Make You Happy" was released only in Brazil and/or in Mexico...

[wjd]

Back in 1996, there was no such thing as a digital market, and the only way you could listen to music was on the radio (if a song was pushed as a single) or a physical single, if a song was released as such. Record labels repressed single sales, for the sake of selling albums - simple fact is that you got more from one album sale than 5 singles in 1996 (the average single cost about $3, and the average album around $15 in 1996). So by not releasing many singles, which has always been the case for Celine - she's always had on average 3 singles released from each English album - her label were maximising the album's sales.

 

And its a strategy that worked well. 31m copies sold, and counting. You cannot grumble

[Xpresso]

Always thought they should have released SEDUCES ME! And that's what she should have sung on the Grammy Awards instead of All By Myself (another cover)...

[Black Kitten]

still feeling frustrated that I Love You wasn't released as a single worldwide. it's actually one of her BIGGEST hits here in the Philippines. it is IMHO the ULTIMATE Celine Dion ballad. out of this world vocals, powerful lyrics, great production. very underrated.

[Esty]

Wasn't FIY released as a single? There's even a video... So it wasn't released in North America then? It's a shame because it's a fabulous song. It would have been successful there.

[RebelRebel]

Because it didn't need more singles. AFAIK it's like the tenth best selling album of the last 20 years (since sales are officially counted) and to achieve that with 3 singles is astonishing. I guess the label stopped after 3 singles because they knew FIY would be a big catalog seller and I assume the recurrent airplay of the 3 singles was so big that radio wouldn't have jumped on a 4th single, so not only it wouldn't have reached the top 5, but its overall effect wouldn't have been significant. If the 3 hits didn't make a person buy the album, most likely no other song would have convinced them otherwise. It wasn't about pleasing the fans, but to get the most out of an album with as less cost as possible. With Let's Talk About Love it was more obvious, they knew no song would get as much attention as MHWGO, so it got a radio-only single in TLYM but it wasn't nearly as big as MHWGO.

[CelinesDIVO5]

Because it didn't need more singles. AFAIK it's like the tenth best selling album of the last 20 years (since sales are officially counted) and to achieve that with 3 singles is astonishing. I guess the label stopped after 3 singles because they knew FIY would be a big catalog seller and I assume the recurrent airplay of the 3 singles was so big that radio wouldn't have jumped on a 4th single, so not only it wouldn't have reached the top 5, but its overall effect wouldn't have been significant. If the 3 hits didn't make a person buy the album, most likely no other song would have convinced them otherwise. It wasn't about pleasing the fans, but to get the most out of an album with as less cost as possible. With Let's Talk About Love it was more obvious, they knew no song would get as much attention as MHWGO, so it got a radio-only single in TLYM but it wasn't nearly as big as MHWGO.

 

What is AFAIK???

[Dionesque]

AFAIK = as far as I know.

 

Well, at least that's what I guess it can be meaning.

Edited January 25, 2011 at 10:51 PM by Dionesque

[wjd]

Falling Into You, like most 90's studio albums from the big divas, is an astonishingly poor catalogue seller, and was so from as early as 1999. The album only sold 1m+ in two years (1996, and 1997) - it then plummeted to below 7 figures. Nowadays, the album shifts less than 4,000 copies each year. As I said, back in the 90's it was commonplace for albums to only see 3 singles, but not many on the scale of Celine's near 11m Soundscan selling FIY!

[RLAAMJR.]

I'd say "I Love You" would be the best 4th single

[wjd]

I Love You would've been a terrible choice for a single off any of her albums - its smarmy, self indulgent tripe (that's not to say that I don't love, I do!) and would not have sold a dime, even when she was at her hottest. Stick with the safe, sound choices and that's what made her

[RebelRebel]

Falling Into You, like most 90's studio albums from the big divas, is an astonishingly poor catalogue seller, and was so from as early as 1999. The album only sold 1m+ in two years (1996, and 1997) - it then plummeted to below 7 figures. Nowadays, the album shifts less than 4,000 copies each year. As I said, back in the 90's it was commonplace for albums to only see 3 singles, but not many on the scale of Celine's near 11m Soundscan selling FIY!

 

Pop albums usually die when a greatest hits record comes out and has the hits that still get the recurrent airplay etc. Of course nowadays old albums in general barely sell because of iTunes and illegal downloading so it's a moot point, but in the 90s there was no need for a 4th single.

 

And yes, AFAIK is 'as far as I know'. I did check and it's indeed the 10th best selling album of the SoundScan era with sales of 10,781,000.

[Ray]

River Deep Mountain High could have been a great choice as final single in the USA.

 

You Make Me Feel Like A Natural Woman was a top 10 hit in Iceland before the album was even released. (probably to promote the Carole King Tribute Album).

[Dionesque]

I agree with you, RebelRebel, we now live in a different, "digitalized/internetized" times so we can't compare today's reality to that of the 90s and we can't complain about old albums not selling well.

But, on the other hand, nowadays we can buy those old albums (no matter what artist is involved) on a very low prices on amazon or at retailers such as Saturn, MediaMarkt, Fnac and so on, there are numbers of very pricy offers in the recent year. Personally, I bought pretty a lot of old albums by different artists (from the 80s and from the 90s) just for that very reason. Back than, when those albums were relased, they were way too expansive for me but now I can finally add them to my collection, even if I've already downloaded an illegal copy in the meantime...

 

Egyébként, RebelRebel, lehet hogy ismerjük egymást? Bár a neved nem mond semmit nekem...

Edited January 27, 2011 at 03:08 PM by Dionesque

[RebelRebel]

I agree with you, RebelRebel, we now live in a different, "digitalized/internetized" times so we can't compare today's reality to that of the 90s and we can't complain about old albums not selling well.

But, on the other hand, nowadays we can buy those old albums (no matter what artist is involved) on a very low prices on amazon or at retailers such as Saturn, MediaMarkt, Fnac and so on, there are numbers of very pricy offers in the recent year. Personally, I bought pretty a lot of old albums by different artists (from the 80s and from the 90s) just for that very reason. Back than, when those albums were relased, they were way too expansive for me but now I can finally add them to my collection, even if I've already downloaded an illegal copy in the meantime...

 

Egyébként, RebelRebel, lehet hogy ismerjük egymást? Bár a neved nem mond semmit nekem...

 

That's true, if you look around you can find cheap albums, but at this time and age not many people do that anymore, they don't actually need the physical product since it "takes space" and even dedicated fans a lot of times just buy the CD, rip the audio and never use the CD again so it's really not that surprising...

 

And no, we've never met, I'm new here and a recent fan as well.

[imike24]

ok

 

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[JasonFromTheMoon]

I remember going to a music store at the beginning of my hardcore era (1999), right after I bought All The Way. I asked the seller what of Celine's albums should I take next and he said "Take Falling Into You, that's her best album ever!", but at the end I preferred Let's Talk About Love and I was not sorry after when I actually bought FIY as well. It has an amazing mixture of styles and tempos, but I'm sooooooo into balladry, so LTAL was much more appropriate for me and still is in my TOP 3.

About another US single from FIY I think an R&B remix of Dreamin' Of You with a video would be #1, but let's think about the future, past is past