sebulba Posted July 29, 2020 at 12:48 PM Posted July 29, 2020 at 12:48 PM (edited) Check this out it's pretty interesting and cool!Also for those who are interested that channel has more videos about "perfect pitch" which is pretty interesting.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3Cb1qwCUvI I think the perfect pitch topic is really interesting since it doesn't seem to be really established how you learn it.I still think most people that claims to have "perfect pitch" only has a extremely high degree of "relative pitch". I mean you can still learn to such high degree that you can be mistaken for "perfect pitch". At least what I've read about this. Edited July 29, 2020 at 12:55 PM by sebulba 1 Quote < >
couldawouldashoulda Posted July 29, 2020 at 01:17 PM Posted July 29, 2020 at 01:17 PM Nope, but Céline did for sure but i want to learn to play piano. I can play piano using one hand only by listening. So, if i listen to a movie score. I can play that on piano by just listening to the tune but first i need to find the note on the piano keys after finding them all.. i can play it smoothly It’s hard to use both hands. By the way, I’m playing piano on Garageband on my iPad lol i can even play the intro of Incredible. I didn’t even look on the internet. I‘ll just play it until i find the right note on the keys on piano Ok, so if someone says to you, sing an F#, you can do that without first having to go to a piano? Quote
jpatdeleon09 Posted July 29, 2020 at 01:19 PM Posted July 29, 2020 at 01:19 PM (edited) 1596028655[/url]' post='2388276']Ok, so if someone says to you, sing an F#, you can do that without first having to go to a piano? if i study music maybe. Vocal coach can know that without going to the piano. I think if you study music more you can know these notes without going to the piano. The issue here is we’re assuming that Céline can’t read notes. She’s playing instruments like guitar and piano. I’m sure she knows F5 or B natural lol Edited July 29, 2020 at 01:22 PM by jpatdeleon09 Quote
couldawouldashoulda Posted July 29, 2020 at 01:22 PM Posted July 29, 2020 at 01:22 PM if i study music maybe. Vocal coach can know that without going to the piano. Thank God somebody out there has already gone to the trouble of explaining this in excruciating detail. Read this. It should help you to better understand what you’re talking about. https://www.perfectpitch.com/perfectrelative.htm#:~:text=Perfect%20Pitch%20vs.%20Relative%20Pitch.%20Musicians%20often%20think,each%20with%20its%20own%20unique%20powers%20and%20abilities. Quote
jpatdeleon09 Posted July 29, 2020 at 01:25 PM Posted July 29, 2020 at 01:25 PM Thank God somebody out there has already gone to the trouble of explaining this in excruciating detail. Read this. It should help you to better understand what you’re talking about. https://www.perfectp... and abilities. Triggered much with these arguments? LOL Sorry, I’m watching “The World Of Married Couple” - it is much important than this. If it’s commercial let’s see Quote
couldawouldashoulda Posted July 29, 2020 at 01:43 PM Posted July 29, 2020 at 01:43 PM Triggered much with these arguments? LOL Sorry, I’m watching “The World Of Married Couple” - it is much important than this. If it’s commercial let’s see Translation: “I’d rather not have my beliefs challenged and would prefer to continue to speak with ignorance on a subject rather than inform myself.” Welcome to Trump’s America, folks! 1 Quote
jpatdeleon09 Posted July 29, 2020 at 02:14 PM Posted July 29, 2020 at 02:14 PM (edited) 1596030233[/url]' post='2388280']Translation: "I'd rather not have my beliefs challenged and would prefer to continue to speak with ignorance on a subject rather than inform myself." Welcome to Trump's America, folks! i rather believe that she can read notes than assume that she can’t since first of all we really don’t know for sure but she’s a singer, she did study music compared to us About Trump... he’s garbage. Edited July 29, 2020 at 02:24 PM by jpatdeleon09 Quote
Céline RO Posted July 29, 2020 at 02:55 PM Posted July 29, 2020 at 02:55 PM She’s playing instruments like guitar and piano. I’m pretty sure Céline doesn’t play either of those instruments, at least not to a significant degree of proficiency. Yes, there are clips of her “playing” the piano but anyone can memorize a few chords. She said it herself in ‘Céline face à Dion’ a few years ago “Je joue pas du piano”. About the guitar, I vaguely remember something about Céline and a guitar but that was long ago (maybe 20 years) and I don’t think she ever really took it seriously. Quote The best is yet to come...
jpatdeleon09 Posted July 29, 2020 at 03:03 PM Posted July 29, 2020 at 03:03 PM (edited) 1596034522[/url]' post='2388283']I’m pretty sure Céline doesn’t play either of those instruments, at least not to a significant degree of proficiency. Yes, there are clips of her “playing” the piano but anyone can memorize a few chords. She said it herself in ‘Céline face à Dion’ a few years ago “Je joue pas du piano”. About the guitar, I vaguely remember something about Céline and a guitar but that was long ago (maybe 20 years) and I don’t think she ever really took it seriously. i think the last thing that i remember céline playing with a guitar it was back in 2003 for her 1 fille et 4 types album. So, you believe that she can’t read notes? Since we’re just assuming.. if she can or can’t. We are just saying our own opinions here For me, since we don’t know. I think she can Edited July 29, 2020 at 03:05 PM by jpatdeleon09 Quote
couldawouldashoulda Posted July 29, 2020 at 03:05 PM Posted July 29, 2020 at 03:05 PM i rather believe that she can read notes than assume that she can’t since first of all we really don’t know for sure but she’s a singer, she did study music compared to us About Trump... he’s garbage.I’ve studied music!! You are the most infuriating human being I’ve ever dealt with and that’s saying a lot. You just want to make up you own facts and, when confronted with facts, you refuse to read them. You think Trump is garbage? Guess what, YOU ACT JUST LIKE HIM! Another person to put on ignore. Quote
jpatdeleon09 Posted July 29, 2020 at 03:07 PM Posted July 29, 2020 at 03:07 PM (edited) 1596035109[/url]' post='2388285']I’ve studied music!! You are the most infuriating human being I’ve ever dealt with and that’s saying a lot. You just want to make up you own facts and, when confronted with facts, you refuse to read them. You think Trump is garbage? Guess what, YOU ACT JUST LIKE HIM! Another person to put on ignore. Ohh you studied music. Good for you! Well, I just don’t want to assume that she can’t do this or that since we really don’t know for sure. We’re just assuming. Is it right? Anyways, again. It’s your OWN opinion. I just act like him? How? Isn’t that.... you? Making assumptions..... Sure ignore me. No problem Edited July 29, 2020 at 03:10 PM by jpatdeleon09 Quote
Ajax Posted July 29, 2020 at 03:18 PM Posted July 29, 2020 at 03:18 PM I’ve studied music!! You are the most infuriating human being I’ve ever dealt with and that’s saying a lot. 🤣😁 he is. Like only him has this special way to turn things this way and freaks you out haha. Still Celine can read music I’m sure about that. Like someone who learned music theory and basics of Piano for a few years. Does it make her able to make a f5 without piano as an exemple ? I have no clue about that. But for sure she learnt the basics of music theory and piano. 1 Quote
jpatdeleon09 Posted July 29, 2020 at 03:20 PM Posted July 29, 2020 at 03:20 PM he is. Like only him has this special way to turn things this way and freaks you out haha. Still Celine can read music I'm sure about that. Like someone who learned music theory and basics of Piano for a few years. Does it make her able to make a f5 without piano as an exemple ? I have no clue about that. But for sure she learnt the basics of music theory and piano. Really? But I’m soooooooooo nice see this? Quote
Angel2006 Posted July 29, 2020 at 06:25 PM Posted July 29, 2020 at 06:25 PM Doesn't anyone remember the story of Celine's mom teaching all her kids to have perfect pitch on the stairs of there house? I am pretty sure I've read or seen a video discribing this story somewhere in the past. No? I can't be the only one who remembers hearing or reading that Celine's mom taught all her kids perfect pitch? Anyways. I guess I don't care. It's not a big deal anyways. Perfect pitch or not, Celine is still a perfect singer! 1 Quote
jpatdeleon09 Posted July 29, 2020 at 07:40 PM Posted July 29, 2020 at 07:40 PM Doesn't anyone remember the story of Celine's mom teaching all her kids to have perfect pitch on the stairs of there house? I am pretty sure I've read or seen a video discribing this story somewhere in the past. No? I can't be the only one who remembers hearing or reading that Celine's mom taught all her kids perfect pitch? Anyways. I guess I don't care. It's not a big deal anyways. Perfect pitch or not, Celine is still a perfect singer! Exactly Quote
rfkavanagh Posted July 29, 2020 at 10:01 PM Posted July 29, 2020 at 10:01 PM So many unrelated musical proficiencies being conflated here. Perfect pitch does not equal singing on pitch does not equal ability to read music does not equal playing by ear does not equal knowledge of music theory does not equal ability to play a musical instrument. While these abilities can certainly complement and inform each other to make someone more musically well-rounded and proficient, one is not a requirement for any of the others. 7 Quote
sebulba Posted July 30, 2020 at 10:20 AM Posted July 30, 2020 at 10:20 AM Thank God somebody out there has already gone to the trouble of explaining this in excruciating detail. Read this. It should help you to better understand what you’re talking about. https://www.perfectp... and abilities.Interesting link. And that link shows how "perfect pitch" is an automatic ability rather some ability you've learned. Although perfect and relative pitch goes hand in hand pretty well. Also a musician has more use of relative pitch compared to perfect pitch alone. Also from what I've found is that there doesn't seem to be any known cases of where true perfect pitch has been learned. The statistics shows that like 1 in 10000 have the ability and with that far from all becomes a musician. I mean what are the odds that Celine have the ability AND one of the best singing voices in the world. So I'm sceptical....sorry. Quote < >
québecflower Posted July 30, 2020 at 10:28 PM Posted July 30, 2020 at 10:28 PM So, if I ask her “Céline, please sing an F#4” she could instantly do it without any hesitation? I doubt it but, if you say so...So, if I ask her “Céline, please sing an F#4” she could instantly do it without any hesitation? I doubt it but, if you say so...it is Dan Bigras, a well knowned singer sho says so, who would not say bullshit, to save his life. . He was quite impressed with her talent in that regard. I searched for the interview, but they don't have it anymore on the radio-Canada website. 2 Quote Plus qu'ailleurs , but now Si c'était à refaire , i still love tant de temps....
justinecoria Posted August 3, 2020 at 05:03 PM Posted August 3, 2020 at 05:03 PM (edited) it is Dan Bigras, a well knowned singer sho says so, who would not say bullshit, to save his life. . He was quite impressed with her talent in that regard. I searched for the interview, but they don't have it anymore on the radio-Canada website.People say stuff just to be nice sometimes. It was not part of any kind of study with regards to Celine's talents or voice. So he can say whatever he wants, it doesn't make it real. Also, I remember once in a French interview that Celine said that she cannot play the guitar, which was why she loved doing the air guitar (which she did a lot around 1 Fille & 4 Types) because at least she can pretend. If Celine had perfect pitch, or could play a melody by just reading notes, we would know by now. They would be talking about it in every interview. And she definitely would have done lives with her singing while playing the piano, a la Aretha or Alicia Keys. It wouldn't even have to be extraordinary, because it would be a big thing by itself. But she never did such things. Edited August 3, 2020 at 05:04 PM by justinecoria Quote
jpatdeleon09 Posted August 3, 2020 at 06:29 PM Posted August 3, 2020 at 06:29 PM 3:45 Céline playing the guitar 1 Quote
Céline RO Posted August 3, 2020 at 07:19 PM Posted August 3, 2020 at 07:19 PM (edited) 1596479355[/url]' post='2388512']3:45 Céline playing the guitar https://youtu.be/KpeaFOPNQT0 That proves nothing. Anyone can strum a few strings. I think if she actually played the guitar she would’ve at least known what the word “strum” means when recording “Map to My Heart”. Edited August 3, 2020 at 07:20 PM by Céline RO 1 Quote The best is yet to come...
jpatdeleon09 Posted August 3, 2020 at 07:34 PM Posted August 3, 2020 at 07:34 PM (edited) That proves nothing. Anyone can strum a few strings. I think if she actually played the guitar she would’ve at least known what the word “strum” means when recording “Map to My Heart”. it’s understandable if she didn’t know the word “strum”. I wish they played the background when she was playing the guitar. Like they did back in 1998 when she was playing a piano when recording SSDA But yeah we didn’t know for sure like all were talking about here are assumptions anyways Javascript is not enabled OR refresh the page to viewClick here to view the Tweet Edited August 3, 2020 at 07:41 PM by jpatdeleon09 Quote
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