A Singing Celine but soulless

[MalaysiaCeline]

I was listening to Celine's old song yesterday like Where Does My Heart Beat Now, Only One Road, Fly, I love You, If You Asked Me To, Where Is the Love and many many more and a weired feeling comes to me....I am so down ...by comparing what she recorded and released now...i found out what left for right now is a "Singing" Celine....sing for the sake of singing and i could never never feel the emotions she was once used to have for every songs she recorded in earlier in her career. Even a simple song, i am not only hearing she singing but i can even feel it how much she devoted and all the emotions she felt when she sangs all those songs. But now....I listen again and again for all those songs that she recorded after her come back...start from A New Day Has Come till the latest album D'elles, I could hardly feel the what i used to feel last time in her song. I dont care about how she sounds vocally (Indeed i do care) and now all those songs she sang is dead (She was once given lives to all her songs) I dont know how many of here will disagree with me by saying that "I am wrong, she still given emotion to all her latest records" if YEs please name a few....but take a close listen to all her previous release then you will feel what i feel and saying. I know she still performing like what she always performed on stage.....yes that is what i called a "Singing" Celine.... but just want to share my feeling....no matter what i will still support her all the way.....till the end of my day......i remembered that in this forum...someone mentioned that Celine could never sing Only One Road like what she used to sing.....sigh.....

[Bellamy]

That's when Celine was called a "singing machine" by press.

[Tal]

i think a lot of people would disagree with you. even celine herself. because since she had RC, she decided to stop the strict vocal regemine she has been on most of her life. and for that she says that she might not sing as techinically perfect as she used to, but she sings with a lot more emotion now.

 

i have to say, i agree with her.

[thevoice]

i think a lot of people would disagree with you. even celine herself. because since she had RC, she decided to stop the strict vocal regemine she has been on most of her life. and for that she says that she might not sing as techinically perfect as she used to, but she sings with a lot more emotion now.

 

i have to say, i agree with her.

 

tal u should know better . celine is saying it cause obviously she wants the fans to understand what happened to her voice...she knew back in 2002 that we'll hear the diffrence instantly and that's why she came with this story about not caring about her voice like she used to and how her vocal chords used to rule her life and now it's diffrent ...

 

i just think she is getting older and while some singers like shirley bassey only sound more powerful as time goes by (she is 70 and her voice is more powerful than any other female artist i know) most singers cant fight the age factor forever . celine obviously still cares about her voice - she is not smoking , not talking too much before performances , not eating certain stuff but just like she is saying herself - vocal chords r not like any other instrument , it's not a piano or a guitar - u cant fix it everytime something happens or just replace it .

there r some amazing nights when she sounds as powerful as ever but most of the time we can all hear the diffrence , i just think it has nothing to do with discipline because i dont think there is a singer out there more descipline than celine - celine is a bit fragile and her voice just changed . maybe she should take some vocal lessons from shirley and im not saying celine doesnt know how to sing yet it's almost not human how at 70 this woman belts those notes so easily

[Javito]

I feel the same and I agree you, and sure there are many fans that feel that, but well its still Céline and she sings good, but of course the doesn't sing and shine on the stage the way she did in the beggining of 90's, for example in the Olympia concert or Live Á Paris, or even in the Unison era, when she added so many passion to her songs .

She herself says that she doesn't sing technically as she sang before

[salsacolin]

I definitely don't agree that she is soulless - far from it. However, her voice has changed. I don't think its less powerful but it has a different sound to it. It is less edgy and more round, I would say more soulful than before. I think it just sounds older and more mature. If you listen to performances of Think Twice, Only One Road or I Cant help falling in love - from 1994 you can hear the sharp edges. Now she sounds rounder and mellower and has much more depth, she can sing deeper now than she ever could.

 

I don't think this change is bad. I feel her voice is just growing more mature and we get different sounds. In 2 or 3 albums it will be different again.

 

I think her new voice is less suited to upbeat songs or she needs to change the way she sounds when singing fast.

 

She is still the only singer I know that has so many different colours to her voice.

[Costa Santos]

Celine's voice has changed... That's what the matter is (...) I think her voice has been amazin' since her comeback and that change hasn't been a problem to argue about. Celine's voice's got a unique power, which the only people who can recognize it are those who really love her. Her emotion and her feeling for music are the same and I think they've got much deeper... Celine cried when she sang Je Cherche L'ombre and Berceuse... I think you watched it... How can you say that she's soulles? Another important point to consider is that the lyrics of D'elles tell us how soulful and emotional Celine's songs are. Those who don't understant what she says can feel it, havin' a look at Celine's wonderful interpretation... Edited June 8, 2007 at 04:38 PM by Costa Santos

[amelie]

i think most of her new recordings sound soulless compared to the 90s ones too

[Davey84]

I think Céline sings Seduces Me now in AND with MUCH more emotion then on FIY the album!

[Costa Santos]

Celine's voice has changed... That's what the matter is (...) I think her voice has been amazin' since her comeback and that change hasn't been a problem to argue about. Celine's voice's got a unique power, which the only people who can recognize it are those who really love her. Her emotion and her feeling for music are the same and I think they've got much deeper... Celine cried when she sang Je Cherche L'ombre and Berceuse... I think you watched it... How can you say that she's soulless? Another important point to consider is that the lyrics of D'elles tell us how soulful and emotional Celine's songs are. Those who don't understant what she says can feel it, havin' a look at her wonderful interpretation...

 

Edited June 8, 2007 at 05:25 PM by Costa Santos

[Tal]

I'm sorry but singing with power and flexibility is not equivalent to singing with emotion. And this is coming from a person who LOVES it when she belts out huge notes. Its two different things. Yeah she doesnt have the same effortlessness she used to have in the 90's but what does that have to do with emotion?

[amelie]

I'm sorry but singing with power and flexibility is not equivalent to singing with emotion. And this is coming from a person who LOVES it when she belts out huge notes. Its two different things. Yeah she doesnt have the same effortlessness she used to have in the 90's but what does that have to do with emotion?

 

erm we ARE talking about emotion. who said that emotion is about power and flexibility. that emotion though doesn't have to be felt by the singer but has to be conveyed to the audience too.some of us obviously don't feel it and i don't think its our fault. on the other hand songs like "a new day has come", "je t'aime encore" and "on s'est aime a cause" are full of emotion for me.

Edited June 8, 2007 at 06:36 PM by amelie

[Céline's Blues]

Some ppl simply misinterpret emotion. They think powerful singing = emotion. I mean is SISDA sung with emotion or not?! Is D'elles emotion or not!? It's subjective to some extent but even on OH Céline exerts some kind of emotional aura. In my opinion she still has the emotion she had back then but now she chooses to sing the way she enjoys it the most, without going over the top - no matter whether she can or can't do it. She just doesn't anymore.

[Cheerfuljane]

All this chitter chatter nonsense but how many of you can't stop listening to D'elles?

 

Don't call her souless

[Tal]

I'm sorry but singing with power and flexibility is not equivalent to singing with emotion. And this is coming from a person who LOVES it when she belts out huge notes. Its two different things. Yeah she doesnt have the same effortlessness she used to have in the 90's but what does that have to do with emotion?

 

erm we ARE talking about emotion. who said that emotion is about power and flexibility. that emotion though doesn't have to be felt by the singer but has to be conveyed to the audience too.some of us obviously don't feel it and i don't think its our fault. on the other hand songs like "a new day has come", "je t'aime encore" and "on s'est aime a cause" are full of emotion for me.

 

sorry, i was really replying to thevoice.

 

still though, i dont get how some think that she's less emotional now then before. give an example of a song that you think has no emotion.

[thevoice]

ohh tal i think she is as emotional as ever . i was talking about her voice actually

[Cheerfuljane]

How can you separate the 2 ?

[amelie]

its not like she has no emotion...its just that i think she had more passion about singing and therefor more emotion when she was younger, it seems natural.as she's said her priorities have changed and she doesn't hang on to singing anymore and its not only about keeping her voice perfect...BUT being able to sing effortlessly makes it easier to convey emotion.

[SuperLove4Celine]

There are some songs ("Rain, Tax," "One Heart," "Forget Me Not," etc.) that I could agree with the OP about. However there are countless others that there is DEFINATE emotion in her vocals. "If I Could" is a BIG example. Heck, Celine even cries when she performs it. Granted it could all be "an act," but I HIGHLY, HIGHLY doubt that. Celine doesn't fake her emotions. And if she does and has in the past she deserves some major kudos for being such a superb actress for 20+ years.

 

I guess it all comes down to interpretation, but for me I don't think she's soulless. I just think that A) Singing styles have changed with the times, Celine isn't 20-years-old anymore, and C) She's been experimenting with different styles...that alone would throw any fan of an artist off/for a loop.

 

...Joe...

[celine5-5]

I think y'all need to quit worrying. Celine is a genious. Her voice is as good as it ever was, her style has just changed. If you're not convinced, listen to a recent album like D'elles while looking at pictures of when Celine was young (ie, Unison album cover, D'eux cover, etc.), and tell yourself "this is the same woman singing this very song". It makes a lot of sense.

[Au coeur de Céline]

I agree with you. But i think that some songs like On s'est aimé a cause, The greatest Reward, i know what love is, Retiens-moi, Rien n'est vraiment fini, etc she still doing it with the same emotion that she did before. For Celine your voice isn't in first place today. She's a mother before a singer. I miss Celine's voice from Falling in to you, LTAL, D'eux...but we have to be happy because today she isn't a voice machine as before ;D

 

Sorry for my english ;(

[Au coeur de Céline]

And today Celine is getting more and more beautiful!its amazing...she's getting old and more beautiful!

Love her!

[celine5-5]

If you're still not convinced.... think of how many people she's still better than, um, like everyone. However, I think the new English album will bring back some of her classic vocals, with new music. You may miss the way she sounded in the 90's, but I'm sure she's very capable of at least sounding the way she did on ATW. I'm not even kidding.

[Costa Santos]

As my friend's just written (...) Celine's gettin' much prettier... Her voice's still wonderful and it'll always be... Celine worries about her fans and we've got to think the world of her. Nowadays, when I listen to a new song of hers, I feel absolutely fantastic. That's why I say that she's the same singer she always was.

[Mozinha]

i think a lot of people would disagree with you. even celine herself. because since she had RC, she decided to stop the strict vocal regemine she has been on most of her life. and for that she says that she might not sing as techinically perfect as she used to, but she sings with a lot more emotion now.

 

i have to say, i agree with her.

I agree with you.

 

For me there was never a soulless Celine. Never. You can argue about her voice but you can't argue about her emotion. For me her emotion was what set her apart from all the screaming divas of her time.

[JP]

All the songs you talk about have a BIG David Foster's note, maybe it's just the problem for the music she's doing.. If we erase One Heart's, i don't feel the thing you talking about.. And in D'Elles, i really think she have a big soul and i feel it a lot..

[Costa Santos]

i think a lot of people would disagree with you. even celine herself. because since she had RC, she decided to stop the strict vocal regemine she has been on most of her life. and for that she says that she might not sing as techinically perfect as she used to, but she sings with a lot more emotion now.

 

i have to say, i agree with her.

I agree with you.

 

For me there was never a soulless Celine. Never. You can argue about her voice but you can't argue about her emotion. For me her emotion was what set her apart from all the screaming divas of her time.

 

I totally agree with you. As I've already written (...) Celine's voice's changed... However, her emotion is the same it always was; there's no change...

[celinerific]

That's not completely true. Since Celine got married and had RC, she has been putting even more emotion and soul into her songs. It's clearly not her not being able to put her heart into it, but it's the songs. Her songs are becomming more modern and most of them don't require so much emotion because ballads are not the biggest thing right now. She's still go all the energy in her.

 

Though of course, like you said, it is true that her voice has changed, but in such a magnifacent and beautiful way. Her voice is so much stronger and she is so much more sure of herself. It's incredible.

Edited June 8, 2007 at 10:47 PM by celinerific

[stevethefan]

Although Celine's voice has changed a little bit more recently I still think she still sings with a lot of soul. I think the perception of "less soul" maybe more in the problem of having to do mostly the same set of songs for the last

five years. On any recordings she does the soul factor may sometimes be out of her control if the material if not that great, as on One Heart, where most of the songs are so technical and cold sounding and the vocal parts are almost treated as afterthoughts. But on her other more recent albums such as AND and IF4T, I think there was some good material that showcased her voice very nicely.

 

My dream is that someday she records a more simply produced album with songs chosen less for the factor that they may produce a hit song and more for that the whole album sounds beautiful.

[Love,]

All this chitter chatter nonsense but how many of you can't stop listening to D'elles?

 

Don't call her souless

 

:w00t: :w00t: :mdr: :mdr:

 

I love you, Jane! I was just going to respond with a paragraph-long sermonette, but I guess you said it all!

Edited June 9, 2007 at 01:00 AM by Love,