Troubles

[1Celine12]

I am having trouble with 2 ex-friends that have said that they do not want anything to do with me and I don't get why they said that. Here's the story:

 

Michael and JJ have said that I have been influenced by someone on the boards here and they know who they are, and my 2 brothers Adam and Jeremy for not liking them. Also JJ wants another friend of mine, Ryan to tell him everything that we talk about when we talk about JJ and that is making me upset that JJ thinks he needs to know what is going on between me and Ryan. Ryan is a very nice friend and I asked him if he was going to still be my friend and he said yes he would. What I am getting at here is that Michael and JJ think that I have spread lies about JJ and in a way, I have and in a way, I have not. Some things are true and some things are true lies(pun intended). What I am getting at here is what to do about them.

 

VanMerlin has said for me to let "dead dogs die" and I happen to agree. What that means is that I need to let this whole thing go and not spend my whole time worrying about it. Is the advice that VM gave me something to follow?

[VanMerlin]

Michael and JJ have said that I have been influenced by someone on the boards here and they know who they are,

 

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That would be me...

 

Someone that doesn't even know me hates me...Damien, don't cheer so loudly.

 

Dana, when I said let dead dogs lie, I meant your relationship with MIchael. You ended it, said you called him again and got a bad response, and I just said to leave that relationship broken...the way you broke it.

 

As for the others, you have to turn a deaf ear to many people in your life. Don't pay any mind to your friends who want nothing to do with you. They obviously aren't worth your time.

 

If you trust Ryan, then trust him to keep your conversations to himself and have faith in him, and let him deal with JJ on his own. That's not your problem.

 

By the way, Dana, if you want Ryan to keep your confidentiality, try doing the same. We talked via PM and here you tell everyone what I said without telling the whole story. I don't appreciate having my words stated and then having you ask people to judge my advice. This isn't my problem and I don't want you putting me up to speculation...I can do that enough on my own and it should be my choice. I'm not angry, just don't do it again.

Edited June 20, 2006 at 10:42 PM by VanMerlin

[1Celine12]

I just want people to tell me what they think about your advice.I am sorry if I caused any problems. All I wanted is their thoughts on it, that's all. Is that wrong to ask people what they think about someone's peice of advice? I don't think it is wrong.

[VanMerlin]

Yes, it is wrong. There is absolutely no reason you needed to mention my name. DON'T EVER TALK ON THIS FORUM ABOUT WHAT WAS SAID IN A PERSONAL MESSAGE. Ask about your friends...there's no reason to bring me into it. I don't care to have myself put on a platform to be judged, and that is what you asked to be done. You crossed a line...and you've done the exact same thing before. Like I said, don't do it again.

[1Celine12]

Fine. What does everyone think of the situation between me and my ex-friends? Is that a better way of asking?

[VanMerlin]

Yes. Thank you.

[1Celine12]

You're welcome. I just don't think those 2 should even talk about me behind my back. They say nasty things and it makes me mad. I just don't know what to do anymore about Michael and JJ. Anyone else have any comments?

[Bellamy]

If you can talk about them without them knowing here, why can't they talk about you behind your back? You were telling about them to the complete strangers like us. At least both of them know you when they were telling about you. I think yo've done much worse than them. Learn to switch your position to think. And you can't shut them up anyway.

[1Celine12]

They were talking about me way before I started talking about them here. Maybe you should close this topic soo things won't get any worse than they already are.

[Koolan]

already you are picking up where you left off maybe it's best if you keep the personal problems to yourself.

[1Celine12]

Could you[please close the topic then?

[Célinefull]

Someone that doesn't even know me hates me...Damien, don't cheer so loudly. 

 

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Just to have my two cents worth; because I like doing that. I am not happy you are back, not in the slightest, because you cause problems that are ridiculous. A smart person would have come back and layed low, but that obviously isn't you. You've come back on here and in the first day started a thread telling sharing with us what someone told you in a PM (PRIVATE message), what would be the point of VM sending you one if he was comfortable with saying it in the forum? You did the same thing to Helen, telling us all personal things that she had told you, and now she dislike you. You got banned for it, but now your back and your doing the same thing again! Take the hint, Dana, think before you type. Stop opening threads and then asking for them to be closed, just don't start them to begin with.

[mazceline]

f*** me..........

[celinedionsfan]

f*** me..........

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guess that just about says it all, Marie!

[Célinefull]

yeah, pretty much.

[1Celine12]

Someone that doesn't even know me hates me...Damien, don't cheer so loudly. 

 

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Just to have my two cents worth; because I like doing that. I am not happy you are back, not in the slightest, because you cause problems that are ridiculous. A smart person would have come back and layed low, but that obviously isn't you. You've come back on here and in the first day started a thread telling sharing with us what someone told you in a PM (PRIVATE message), what would be the point of VM sending you one if he was comfortable with saying it in the forum? You did the same thing to Helen, telling us all personal things that she had told you, and now she dislike you. You got banned for it, but now your back and your doing the same thing again! Take the hint, Dana, think before you type. Stop opening threads and then asking for them to be closed, just don't start them to begin with.

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I won't start them anymore and that's a promise I intend to keep. Sorry if I caused any problems, but I do have a right to start a topic around here. I will start a topic that has nothing to do with advice anymore. If I see something in the news and think it's worth sharing I will start a thread about that, okay guys. Will that make everyone happy?

Edited June 21, 2006 at 11:26 AM by 1Celine12

[Célinefull]

You've missed the point again... you have the right to post here, and we have the right to be offended by your insensitivity.

[1Celine12]

Like I said,I will not post any topics that have to do with advice giving, because that subject hits hard for some people and I just don't want to cause anymore problems since it is my second day back posting here.

 

I will post topics on different subjects other than advice giving. Does that sound fair?

Edited June 21, 2006 at 11:46 AM by 1Celine12

[Céline's Blues]

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[VanMerlin]

This is one of these threads where Sainkho photos would do goood! Shall I shall I shall I????????????????        

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Do it, baby!!!!

[Céline's Blues]

Oh, Merlin.

 

 

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[VanMerlin]

Now that's what I'm talkin 'bout! You never let me down, Siur!!

 

There seems to be nothing in this world that can't be said with Sainkho...

[celinedionsfan]

Like I said,I will not post any topics that have to do with advice giving, because that subject hits hard for some people

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The ONLY thing that "hits hard" for someone people is your need to take what is said to you in PRIVATE and post it in PUBLIC! Why do you do that ALL the time, Dana? When you ask someone for advice privately, you do not then turn around and put that advice up for vote in the public arena the way you did. If you were that unsure about the advice you were given, and wanted to hear other views, all you really needed to do was just state the problem and ask for others' advice.

 

And as for your friends, Dana. You admitted that you told LIES about one of them. There is no justifying, no sugar-coating, no "it's okay because they've done the same thing to me", NOTHING that will make what you did right.

 

You don't want your friends to talk about you behind your back, but you admit that you talk about them behind their backs. You do not want your friends to tell one another about your private conversations and that is EXACTLY what you DID and continue to DO.

 

How is anyone ever going to trust you, Dana?

[1Celine12]

I guess no one can trust me anymore, Patty. You guys are taking this wayyyyyyy too seriously and should just leave the situation well enough alone, but no you guys have to drag my name through the mud. I don't think once I have dragged your name around in the mud, but I'm not sure about that. If you don't want to read what I have to say, then just ignore me. Put me on your ignore list or whatever you call that thing. You guys are making me mad about this. It is my second day back and already I am getting yelled at.

 

If you didn't read in the I'm Sorry thread, I said that I am not going to make anymore topics that have to do with advice giving since I know that some people around here don't like that kind of thing. Can't we just drop this whole thing and get back to more positive things? I don't think that is a hard thing to do, now do I? No, I don't Let's just drop the whole thing and forget about what was said. Thank You.

[VanMerlin]

Dana, it's not about a thread asking for advice...many people have asked for advice quite well on the forum. It's the way you handle it, and brother, you don't handle it well. You not only completely misconstrued the advice I gave you, but then publicly announced it...in the wrong context. Get it? It's not the thread...it's the way you do it. If you think we're taking it too seriously, then obviously you have no concept of how your actions effect others and the gravity of your own actions.

 

If you think haven't done any mud-work, you must have a short memory. There are times on this forum when you've been downright vicious.

 

Do you think 'advice' is to blame for this? Do you think opening another style of thread will be any better? Maybe it will, until you stick you foot in your mouth again. You've caused problems before and you've never once considered that it was your action that did it. You just blame everyone else...

 

Stop asking for a thread to be closed as soon as it runs into trouble...if you make a mistake stand up, be a grown man, and face it. You started this situation and, once it becomes a little tough for you, you run for the hills and expect everything to be fixed up and forgotten...no harm done. It doesn't work that way. You made a poor action have to deal with it yourself. You just want everything cleaned up so it's easier for you and the weight is off your shoulders. And you make a separate 'sorry' thread that isn't an apology at all but a way of blaming us for not understanding that you were being 'positive' and telling us not to make you angry. You know what? Get angry. Go right ahead.

 

If this needs to be closed, a moderator will make that decision.

 

Oh, this thread has the perfect title...

Edited June 21, 2006 at 05:41 PM by VanMerlin

[1Celine12]

You obviously didn't read my post above saying that you are taking this seriously and you are taking this seriously. Can't we please drop the subject? I don't want a whole topic to be an arguement about how childish a person is. I just want to let go of the situation, please.

 

I admit that everytime I come on here and cause a problem it is my fault. I truly sorry this time. If you don't want to believe me that's fine.

Edited June 21, 2006 at 05:47 PM by 1Celine12

[Bellamy]

I guess no one can trust me anymore, Patty.  You guys are taking this wayyyyyyy too seriously and should just leave the situation well enough alone, but no you guys have to drag my name through the mud.  I don't think once I have dragged your name around in the mud, but I'm not sure about that.  If you don't want to read what I have to say, then just ignore me. Put me on your ignore list or whatever you call that thing.  You guys are making me mad about this.  It is my second day back and already I am getting yelled at.

 

If you didn't read in the I'm Sorry thread, I said that I am not going to make anymore topics that have to do with advice giving since I know that some people around here don't like that kind of thing.  Can't we just drop this whole thing and get back to more positive things?  I don't think that is a hard thing to do, now do I?  No, I don't  Let's just drop the whole thing and forget about what was said.  Thank You.

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Sick and ridiculors post. Can't believe there's people so arrogant and ignorant.

 

You obviously didn't read my post above saying that you are taking this seriously and you are taking this seriously.  Can't we please drop the subject?  I don't want a whole topic to be an arguement about how childish a person is.  I just want to let go of the situation, please.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I regret I give you posting ability again. Now you've lost your last chance. You should take the resonsibility and result of what you did yourself, not the others. You can get out of the situation forever now. Hope you'd feel relieved. I think many others would feel so.

[Koolan]

If you can't take us seriously, why bother making another ridiculous topic to ask for advice? You made a mistake and ask us to close the topic (for the 3rd or 4th time). Learn to face and accept the fact, take it like a man. I don't think you realize how arrogant of a person you are. You came back for 2 days and managed to tick off god knows how many people. How many more "please let's move on" remarks are you going to make? Sorry doesn't do any good, do you seriously think we are going to take your s*** any further? No matter how many times others tell you, it doesn't seem to get through your thick head. It's like beating a dead horse. Your presence here has really caused a negative atmosphere.

 

And please do not send me any PMs, they will be ignored.

[Fanny!]

I can see that what I thought was right.

[disadiva]

I can see that what I thought was right.

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Dana has a very difficult life and i am so sad for him/Her but this topic has gone beyond far and we should not talk badly about him/Her? God Bless you Dana.