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[mirage]

Is the Q&A with Irene already available? Or did I miss it?

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[Jeanette]

incognito, le 16 July 2024 - 05:21 PM, dit :

You posting this on a Celine forum isn’t you saying this publicly? Okay…lol

I meant all over the internet for the world to see.  How many people are reading this?! 😂 And I certainly meant no harm or offence by it, unlike some of the reviewers.  Quite the contrary actually as I realised that the kids were also heavily affected by her illness (which of course they would be) and also that she’s probably changed her whole outlook on things as she’s said a couple of times in the doc promo interviews that life is too short.

[jpatdeleon09]

Jeanette, le 16 July 2024 - 02:22 PM, dit :

Just looking through some of the viewer reviews on the doc and honestly the amount of people who would rather comment on the size of the twins and her dog, is crazy. Honestly, if you have nothing nice to say, just say nothing at all! Can't believe that was their only take away from such a raw, powerful documentary ��

Having said that, although I would never say it publicly, I was surprised to see the twins were so big, as I thought Celine was always so health conscious and remember how she used to give Rene a hard time for being bigger.  It does make me think that the kids were also cooped up at home along with Celine for much of the pandemic or more worrying that Celine was just too ill herself during that time to ensure the kids ate healthily and got plenty of exercise.

Weird because most reviews that I saw was mostly about her and her illness (still on going when watching YouTube videos, Twitter, Instagrams) and nothing about the twins. But they also felt bad about the dog.

This review about the kids were for the people who have watched it more than 1. Which we focused on other stuff just as you ask before if you watch it a couple of times

Edited by jpatdeleon09, 17 July 2024 - 01:59 AM.

[jpatdeleon09]

So it's 1 month now since the release of the docu

[jpatdeleon09]

[lyn]

Took me a while to build up the courage to watch this. I don’t need to explain this to anyone here, but Celine is one of the people I’m closest to in life. As so many people say, she’s the soundtrack to our lives, there for every high, low, jog, bus ride, grocery run,… But she’s also in every single decision I make for how to live my life. Sure I was first drawn in by the music at 9, but by 10 I had seen everything I needed behind the scenes to realize, even if not consciously, that there was something incredibly important about this person and how much there was to love and learn, just like Irene mentioned in an interview of why her fans really stick around. I’m 37 now and Celine lives in every choice from how to show up for the people around me like her, how to be dedicated mind and soul to my craft, how to hold myself… she’s in every board meeting, every presentation, every consolation to a friend. She’s raised me in ways that not even my own family has and it’s taken me until adulthood to really appreciate just how much an icon on a screen has done for me.

And so I just couldn’t watch this. Since hearing the diagnosis, I’ve told people it’s affected me exactly as much as if it were a friend. I just cannot believe that this is how the story unfolds. A tragedy of the highest Greek order, and it has to be her. Truly, why does life work this way. With everything about her that has uplifted me and shone a beacon for the way forward the past.. 28 years, this is crushing in equal measure. I have pored over every page of her open book and I cannot simply shut it now and look away. I cannot take all the good she has given me without staring into her eyes as she lies on that table and literally see everything that is good and important about the world seize in its tracks. She has meant so much beyond even she or I – she has meant something universal, something true, that connected a petite fille miagre walking through the snow in Charlemagne, to one sweating under the Singapore sun. And I cannot walk this turn of events down the way I cannot reduce any of the brilliance of the story til now.

I know this is ridiculous and sorry for the rambling but well, who else will understand. It’s going to take me a while to process this and try my best to decouple her situation from some deeper meaning to the universe… yet if I do, all the beautiful and important ways we’ve been coupled must lose their shine as well.

[Jeanette]

lyn, le 17 July 2024 - 05:49 AM, dit :

Took me a while to build up the courage to watch this. I don’t need to explain this to anyone here, but Celine is one of the people I’m closest to in life. As so many people say, she’s the soundtrack to our lives, there for every high, low, jog, bus ride, grocery run,… But she’s also in every single decision I make for how to live my life. Sure I was first drawn in by the music at 9, but by 10 I had seen everything I needed behind the scenes to realize, even if not consciously, that there was something incredibly important about this person and how much there was to love and learn, just like Irene mentioned in an interview of why her fans really stick around. I’m 37 now and Celine lives in every choice from how to show up for the people around me like her, how to be dedicated mind and soul to my craft, how to hold myself… she’s in every board meeting, every presentation, every consolation to a friend. She’s raised me in ways that not even my own family has and it’s taken me until adulthood to really appreciate just how much an icon on a screen has done for me.

And so I just couldn’t watch this. Since hearing the diagnosis, I’ve told people it’s affected me exactly as much as if it were a friend. I just cannot believe that this is how the story unfolds. A tragedy of the highest Greek order, and it has to be her. Truly, why does life work this way. With everything about her that has uplifted me and shone a beacon for the way forward the past.. 28 years, this is crushing in equal measure. I have pored over every page of her open book and I cannot simply shut it now and look away. I cannot take all the good she has given me without staring into her eyes as she lies on that table and literally see everything that is good and important about the world seize in its tracks. She has meant so much beyond even she or I – she has meant something universal, something true, that connected a petite fille miagre walking through the snow in Charlemagne, to one sweating under the Singapore sun. And I cannot walk this turn of events down the way I cannot reduce any of the brilliance of the story til now.

I know this is ridiculous and sorry for the rambling but well, who else will understand. It’s going to take me a while to process this and try my best to decouple her situation from some deeper meaning to the universe… yet if I do, all the beautiful and important ways we’ve been coupled must lose their shine as well.

I understand exactly what you mean.  Having been a fan of hers for 30 years, thinking she led some fairytale lifestyle that we could only ever dream of, to which she has done and still does in many ways, but something of that fairytale has been tainted by all this in a way, if that makes sense.  Although, through no fault of hers, it’s just that the universe had slightly different plans for her.  Perhaps she is just too good a person not to have to carry such a burden on her shoulders, to elevate her on an even bigger plane, she is very spiritual after all.  And perhaps beauty really can come out of ashes 😇

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ewh12, le 18 July 2024 - 12:28 AM, dit :

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[scielle]

I had already posted the full article in the Reviews thread, but this is new today from The Atlantic -

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[lyn]

scielle, le 18 July 2024 - 10:35 AM, dit :

I had already posted the full article in the Reviews thread, but this is new today from The Atlantic -

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Oh wow what a fantastic review. One that continues to depress me those last lines.. ugh.

Edited by lyn, 18 July 2024 - 11:19 AM.

[Jeanette]

Yep, great review but those last lines broke me 😢

[karatedude317]

Dare I ask what the last lines are? I’m not a subscriber to the Atlantic. I’ve not seen the documentary yet. I’m waiting to see it with my grandmother next month.

[lyn]

karatedude317, le 18 July 2024 - 11:39 AM, dit :

Dare I ask what the last lines are? I’m not a subscriber to the Atlantic. I’ve not seen the documentary yet. I’m waiting to see it with my grandmother next month.

Spoiler tagging it then in case! Not actually one though.

Spoiler

“By the end, I didn’t care if Celine Dion would ever be able to perform again; I just hoped she would live. But I also understood that, for her, there is no difference.”

[Mtk4097]

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Edited by Mtk4097, 18 July 2024 - 11:53 AM.

[Mtk4097]

That last part of the review is interesting because although Celine will have this likely forever, there seems to have been significant progress in her condition from what we’ve seen over the past months. I would say even vocally from what we heard in the documentary vs what we hear “now” in interviews and such - her voice is clearer and stronger. She looks stronger. Yes maybe they could have ended the documentary *a little* differently , but Celine is better now and I don’t think reviewers are taking that into account.  I believe Celine will be back some day.

Edited by Mtk4097, 18 July 2024 - 11:55 AM.

[scielle]

karatedude317, le 18 July 2024 - 11:39 AM, dit :

Dare I ask what the last lines are? I'm not a subscriber to the Atlantic. I've not seen the documentary yet. I'm waiting to see it with my grandmother next month.

I had put the entire article in the Reviews thread: https://www.celinedi...s/#entry2455777
(It talks about specific scenes in the film though so you may not want to read the full thing if you haven't seen it yet.)

Edited by scielle, 18 July 2024 - 12:02 PM.

[karatedude317]

scielle, le 18 July 2024 - 12:00 PM, dit :

I had put the entire article in the Reviews thread: https://www.celinedi...s/#entry2455777
(It talks about specific scenes in the film though so you may not want to read the full thing if you haven't seen it yet.)

Ok thanks! I saw the last line that you referenced and that’s all I’ll look at for now 😂

[karatedude317]

Mtk4097, le 18 July 2024 - 11:52 AM, dit :

That last part of the review is interesting because although Celine will have this likely forever, there seems to have been significant progress in her condition from what we’ve seen over the past months. I would say even vocally from what we heard in the documentary vs what we hear “now” in interviews and such - her voice is clearer and stronger. She looks stronger. Yes maybe they could have ended the documentary *a little* differently , but Celine is better now and I don’t think reviewers are taking that into account.  I believe Celine will be back some day.

I think it’s by design that the doc ended when and how it did. The happy ending is playing out now

[Jeanette]

Transcript of a conversation between Carl Wilson & Irene Taylor after he discovered she read his book as a reference before taking on the directors role for the doc.

https://open.substac...&utm_medium=web

[scielle]

Jeanette, le 18 July 2024 - 03:04 PM, dit :

Transcript of a conversation between Carl Wilson & Irene Taylor after he discovered she read his book as a reference before taking on the directors role for the doc.

https://open.substac...&utm_medium=web

Such a good read. Was really hoping they’d meet and talk Celine, and voila!

[lyn]

Jeanette, le 18 July 2024 - 03:04 PM, dit :

Transcript of a conversation between Carl Wilson & Irene Taylor after he discovered she read his book as a reference before taking on the directors role for the doc.

https://open.substac...&utm_medium=web

“Primal authenticity”… that’s beautiful. So true.

[Jeanette]

Yeah, it was quite an interesting read.  Carl Wilson does tend to annoy me at times but I could listen/read transcripts of Irene Taylor talking about Celine all day long and never tire of it. She speaks so eloquently about her.

Couple of things she said which struck me, as both in the same vein as what I’ve been saying on here, is firstly the watching back old performances has a bitter sweet quality to it now, knowing what we now know.  She said:

“And I thought now to look back at her canon, particularly her performances, it is both profoundly sad and it is also profoundly inspiring.”

And secondly where she says about possibly having a higher calling, as if fate chose her for a reason, I mentioned something similar in a reply to a member yesterday under this thread.  She said:

“I will tell you,” she said, “I may have found my calling.” And I remember I said to her: “Céline, I think plenty of people feel like you already had a pretty strong calling, and you have been pretty good at your calling.” And she said, “Yes, but this might be the real calling.”

Bless her, I’m just so in awe of her resilience and strength.  She really is one of a kind, of that there’s no doubt.

[lyn]

Jeanette, le 18 July 2024 - 05:52 PM, dit :

And secondly where she says about possibly having a higher calling, as if fate chose her for a reason, I mentioned something similar in a reply to a member yesterday under this thread.  She said:

“I will tell you,” she said, “I may have found my calling.” And I remember I said to her: “Céline, I think plenty of people feel like you already had a pretty strong calling, and you have been pretty good at your calling.” And she said, “Yes, but this might be the real calling.”

Bless her, I’m just so in awe of her resilience and strength.  She really is one of a kind, of that there’s no doubt.

Heh I immediately thought of your comment reading that. It blows the mind to think she may have an even greater calling than the one she’s had already. If anyone could accomplish that, it’s her.

Edited by lyn, 18 July 2024 - 06:57 PM.

[dawn]

mirage, le 17 July 2024 - 01:31 AM, dit :

Is the Q&A with Irene already available? Or did I miss it?

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It's out.

Q&A after "I AM: Céline Dion" | Director Irene Taylor & PAM CUT Director Amy Dotson

[Jeanette]

dawn, le 19 July 2024 - 11:04 AM, dit :

It's out.

    Q&A after "I AM: Céline Dion" | Director Irene Taylor & PAM CUT Director Amy Dotson

Great, wondered where this was.  I look forward to catching up with it! 👍🏻

[Jeanette]

Also for anyone interested, the I Am: Celine Dion t-shirts from Amazon are now available from Amazon UK.

[scielle]

dawn, le 19 July 2024 - 11:04 AM, dit :

It's out.

Q&A after "I AM: Céline Dion" | Director Irene Taylor & PAM CUT Director Amy Dotson

So glad this is finally available!
Funny to hear her talk about how Celine was singing her way through every answer, and Irene freaked out about how much the budget is going to have to go up to pay for rights to all those songs. I hadn't considered that, but it's a very real concern with Celine!
Also, interesting to hear how the choice to include RC in that chain carousel was a nod to Moonlight Sonata (if you haven't seen that film, there's a similar shot in it of Irene's son, who the film is about). And cool to hear about how Richard Comeau (the Quebecois editor) recalled seeing Celine when she was 13 (and he 18).

Edited by scielle, 19 July 2024 - 01:29 PM.

[Jeanette]

Re the Q&A, I could have done with it being longer but interesting titbits in there and once again Irene speaks so fondly of Celine.  And we kinda get a bit of context re the archival footage as I remember a lot of people were disappointed originally that most of what we saw in the film had already been seen before.  As I kinda thought, this wasn’t intentional but due to the fact Irene didn’t know much about Celine beforehand or watch old documentary footage back, she wouldn’t know and a lot of what she used stood out to her, hence it’s inclusion in the film but she did seem a little disappointed that not all of it was exclusive and never before seen.  I guess as they said, with Celine’s megastardom, that would have really been a tall order and in fairness to Irene, I reckon a lot of the 600 or 700 hrs of archival she was given has probably surfaced somewhere over the years, through the medium of the internet etc.

Also, made me laugh when she said Celine wears an 8 1/2 shoe size, same as her.  I was thinking but does she really or were they just mixed in with her anything from 6 - 10’s 😂

Edited by Jeanette, 19 July 2024 - 05:32 PM.

[Céline RO]

Jeanette, le 19 July 2024 - 05:29 PM, dit :

Also, made me laugh when she said Celine wears an 8 1/2 shoe size, same as her.  I was thinking but does she really or were they just mixed in with her anything from 6 - 10's ��

My knowledge has always been that she wears an 8.5 (39 EU). I don’t remember where exactly that comes from but I think Annie told us at one point and also Céline herself probably said it a couple times.