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[CelineDionForeverNY]

ryba, on 11 April 2019 - 02:56 PM, said:

Can I actually listen to the ATW and ANDHC SACDs on my Blu Ray player, or does it only work on a specific SACD player?

Blu-Ray players can play SACDs too!

[ryba]

CelineDionForeverNY, on 11 April 2019 - 03:12 PM, said:

Blu-Ray players can play SACDs too!

wow, so I don't have to buy that extra SACD device in order to be able to listen to it? Are you absolutely sure? If so, then I will go ahead and biy me these 2 SACDs (they are very expensive though...)

Edited by ryba, 11 April 2019 - 03:18 PM.

[CelineDionForeverNY]

ryba, on 11 April 2019 - 03:18 PM, said:

wow, so I don't have to buy that extra SACD device in order to be able to listen to it? Are you absolutely sure? If so, then I will go ahead and biy me these 2 SACDs (they are very expensive though...)

Yup, I can listen to my SACDs on my Blu-Ray player. I would double check to see if your model can, mine has the SACD symbol on the actual machine.

[ryba]

CelineDionForeverNY, on 11 April 2019 - 03:23 PM, said:

Yup, I can listen to my SACDs on my Blu-Ray player. I would double check to see if your model can, mine has the SACD symbol on the actual machine.

I have no SACD symbol on it, but I bought it in 2015 and it's a very good brand. Do you think it might still play it?

[CelineDionForeverNY]

ryba, on 11 April 2019 - 03:25 PM, said:

I have no SACD symbol on it, but I bought it in 2015 and it's a very good brand. Do you think it might still play it?

Try Googling the model number? I wouldn't know the specifics.

[ryba]

CelineDionForeverNY, on 11 April 2019 - 03:28 PM, said:

Try Googling the model number? I wouldn't know the specifics.

Cool, thanks! Do you also know where I could buy these SACDs apart from Amazon and Ebay? I assume that the music stores won't be able to order them after all these years

[CelineDionForeverNY]

ryba, on 11 April 2019 - 03:35 PM, said:

Cool, thanks! Do you also know where I could buy these SACDs apart from Amazon and Ebay? I assume that the music stores won't be able to order them after all these years

The SACD for All the Way was recently reissued in Hong Kong, I think it was last year, there might still be some copies available somewhere. But yeah, her SACDs are pretty expensive. I managed to get a copy of ANDHC for a decent price on eBay last year. I would just keep eyes open for good deals.

[SuperLove4Celine]

TommKat22, on 11 April 2019 - 05:59 AM, said:

Oh, I forgot her duet with Paul Anka, It’s Hard To Say Goodbye. On his Duets album, the song has a longer intro and outro with more vocals from Céline.

I guess I need to buy his “Duets” album now. LOL

[GoldenLeaf]

CelineDionForeverNY, on 11 April 2019 - 02:27 PM, said:

There is no stereo layer on the SACD for All the Way. ATW and ANDHC only have the 5.1 sound layer and therefore can only be played in SACD players. Only SACD hybrids have the stereo layer and are able to be played on both regular CD players and SACD players. The only SACD hybrid for Celine is Falling Into You made in Hong Kong (which has no special mixing done).

Thank you for the information! Good to know that SACD can be played on a Blu-Ray player.

CelineDionForeverNY, on 11 April 2019 - 03:12 PM, said:

Blu-Ray players can play SACDs too!

Edited by GoldenLeaf, 11 April 2019 - 04:20 PM.

[Taking Chances]

CelineDionForeverNY, on 11 April 2019 - 02:08 PM, said:

I was slightly misremembering, there are no additional adlibs in the SACD version. However, on the album version, the song fades out starting around 5:00. The SACD version does not fade out at all and ends with a beat.

That said, all of the songs on the ATW SACD have mixing differences when compared to the album version. There's a lot of added instruments and a lot more depth to the balance of the sound.

I never knew this. i have the SACD of All The Way actually, but I've never listened to it. I must somehow rip the audio to my computer now. I have a blu-ray ripper so that should work?

edit: Apparently ripping an SACD is complicated stuff.

Edited by Taking Chances, 11 April 2019 - 05:14 PM.

[Celine-Express]

2 another songs from Loved Me Back To Life era :

Save Your Soul (Album Version)
Save Your Soul (Rap Version Featuring Malcom Kelly)

Thank You (CD Version)
Thank You (Vinyl Version)

[Loup_garou]

Taking Chances, on 11 April 2019 - 04:56 PM, said:

I never knew this. i have the SACD of All The Way actually, but I've never listened to it. I must somehow rip the audio to my computer now. I have a blu-ray ripper so that should work?

edit: Apparently ripping an SACD is complicated stuff.

XLD is a free software that can help with that once you extract the .ISO

[Taking Chances]

Loup_garou, on 11 April 2019 - 06:04 PM, said:

XLD is a free software that can help with that once you extract the .ISO

I have no idea how to do that. I've Googled it, and it's just so complicated. The more I read, the more confused I get.

[celine81]

GoldenLeaf, on 11 April 2019 - 04:15 PM, said:

Thank you for the information! Good to know that SACD can be played on a Blu-Ray player.

Guys, this is factually not correct. SACD is a completely different authoring technology compared to Blu-Ray, not all players can play SACD. I would advocate googling your model number to check it's technical specs.

[CelinesDIVO5]

Celine-Express, on 11 April 2019 - 06:02 PM, said:

2 another songs from Loved Me Back To Life era :

Save Your Soul (Album Version)
Save Your Soul (Rap Version Featuring Malcom Kelly)

Thank You (CD Version)
Thank You (Vinyl Version)

What’s the difference on “Thank You” ?!?!

[tiniann88]

CelinesDIVO5, on 11 April 2019 - 07:59 PM, said:

What's the difference on "Thank You" ?!?!

A few seconds are cut from the vinyl. The CD & digital version clocks in at 3:59 and the vinyl clocks in at 3:51.

[Nando Férri]

Has anyone got the SACD version of If walls could talk? Ive never heard that.

[MTJ]

Nando Férri, on 11 April 2019 - 08:21 PM, said:

Has anyone got the SACD version of If walls could talk? Ive never heard that.

there are a few on youtube if you search Celine Dion "if walls could talk"

[CelineDionForeverNY]

Also

Thankful (CD Version)
Thankful (Vinyl Version)

[CelinesDIVO5]

CelineDionForeverNY, on 11 April 2019 - 08:30 PM, said:

Also

Thankful (CD Version)
Thankful (Vinyl Version)

Differences??

[jpatdeleon09]

Don’t forget The Show Must Go On!!

The Show Must Go On (Album Version)
The Show Must Go On (Promo Version) - Shorter Version/Radio Edit? Maybe short like her performance in Jimmy Kimmel so different arrangements? I saw one in ebay. Maybe someone here bought that?

[CelineDionForeverNY]

CelinesDIVO5, on 11 April 2019 - 08:33 PM, said:

Differences??

On the CD version, at the end of the song, just the backing chorus sings "Thankful my heart always mends" before Celine sings it solo. On the vinyl version, Celine sings along with the chorus too.

[woodstock]

Album version vs. radio edit is non pertinent, we're talking about different mixes or different takes.

My contribution :

Singles :

Ce n'était qu'un rêve : single version / album version (different take & different lyrics)
La Voix du Bon Dieu : single version / album version (with Celine's family) / "Les oiseaux du bonheur" version (new recording)
Ne me Plaignez pas : single version / "Du soleil au coeur" version (different mix)
L'Univers a Besoin d'Amour : solo version / duet version
'If there was) Any Other Way : Album Version / Promo Single Mix (different mix)
Unison (Single Dance Mix) : with rap / without rap
L'Amour Existe Encore : original version / 2009 duet version
Nothing Broken but my Heart : album version / promo extended version
Love can Move Mountains : album version / promo extended version
When I Fall in Love : album version / movie version
The Power of Love : original album version / 2012 alternate mix
Think Twice : album version / "My Love" alternate version (different mix - mono version)
Only One Road : album version / "My Love" alternate version (different mix - mono version)
Pour que tu m'aimes Encore : album version / "500 choristes" version (different vocals from the original take)
Because you Loved Me : album version / movie version
All by Myself : album version / "My Love 3.0" alternate mix
Tell Him : album version / radio version (different mix on the bridge)
Be the Man : album version / alternate promo version
My Heart will Go on : album version / OST version
The Prayer : duet version / solo version
Then you Look at Me : album version / OST version / movie version
Sous le Vent : single version / "500 choristes" version
A New Day has Come : radio mix / album version (different mix, different tempo & different vocals)
I'm Alive : album version / Humberto Gatica mix / movie version
Je ne vous oublie pas : single version / 500 choristes version
A World to believe in : album solo version / single duet version / USA duet mix
My Love : album version / single version (different mix)
Qui peut Vivre sans Amour : album version / single version (different mix)


Album tracks :

The Greatest Rewards : original album version / long version
Nature Boy : album version / orchestral version
Save your Soul : CD version / vinyle version (with rap)
Thank You : CD version / vinyle version (different vocals)
Brahm's Lullaby : 1996 version / Miracle version
It's Hard to say Goodbye : album version / long version
The Magic of Christmas Day : solo album version / duet version
Unfinished Songs : album mix / alternate mix / OST version

[jpatdeleon09]

woodstock, on 12 April 2019 - 01:12 AM, said:

Album version vs. radio edit is non pertinent, we're talking about different mixes or different takes.

My contribution :

Singles :

Ce n'était qu'un rêve : single version / album version (different take & different lyrics)
La Voix du Bon Dieu : single version / album version (with Celine's family) / "Les oiseaux du bonheur" version (new recording)
Ne me Plaignez pas : single version / "Du soleil au coeur" version (different mix)
L'Univers a Besoin d'Amour : solo version / duet version
'If there was) Any Other Way : Album Version / Promo Single Mix (different mix)
Unison (Single Dance Mix) : with rap / without rap
L'Amour Existe Encore : original version / 2009 duet version
Nothing Broken but my Heart : album version / promo extended version
Love can Move Mountains : album version / promo extended version
When I Fall in Love : album version / movie version
The Power of Love : original album version / 2012 alternate mix
Think Twice : album version / "My Love" alternate version (different mix - mono version)
Only One Road : album version / "My Love" alternate version (different mix - mono version)
Pour que tu m'aimes Encore : album version / "500 choristes" version (different vocals from the original take)
Because you Loved Me : album version / movie version
All by Myself : album version / "My Love 3.0" alternate mix
Tell Him : album version / radio version (different mix on the bridge)
Be the Man : album version / alternate promo version
My Heart will Go on : album version / OST version
The Prayer : duet version / solo version
Then you Look at Me : album version / OST version / movie version
Sous le Vent : single version / "500 choristes" version
A New Day has Come : radio mix / album version (different mix, different tempo & different vocals)
I'm Alive : album version / Humberto Gatica mix / movie version
Je ne vous oublie pas : single version / 500 choristes version
A World to believe in : album solo version / single duet version / USA duet mix
My Love : album version / single version (different mix)
Qui peut Vivre sans Amour : album version / single version (different mix)


Album tracks :

The Greatest Rewards : original album version / long version
Nature Boy : album version / orchestral version
Save your Soul : CD version / vinyle version (with rap)
Thank You : CD version / vinyle version (different vocals)
Brahm's Lullaby : 1996 version / Miracle version
It's Hard to say Goodbye : album version / long version
The Magic of Christmas Day : solo album version / duet version
Unfinished Songs : album mix / alternate mix / OST version

Yeah! “Some” radio edits and album version have different takes/different mixes.

A New Day Has Come is one example

Remix/Dance remix should not be included in this topic

Edited by jpatdeleon09, 12 April 2019 - 01:49 AM.

[GoldenLeaf]

celine81, on 11 April 2019 - 07:28 PM, said:

Guys, this is factually not correct. SACD is a completely different authoring technology compared to Blu-Ray, not all players can play SACD. I would advocate googling your model number to check it's technical specs.

Thank you for pointing this out. I google my model number and my Blu-Ray player can plays SACD according to the thechnical specs.

[GoldenLeaf]

CelineDionForeverNY, on 11 April 2019 - 02:27 PM, said:

There is no stereo layer on the SACD for All the Way. ATW and ANDHC only have the 5.1 sound layer and therefore can only be played in SACD players. Only SACD hybrids have the stereo layer and are able to be played on both regular CD players and SACD players. The only SACD hybrid for Celine is Falling Into You made in Hong Kong (which has no special mixing done).

Just found this, on the back cover it says DSD and Stereo, however I’m not sure if both layers have the alternate mixes, does anyone can confirm ?

Edited by GoldenLeaf, 12 April 2019 - 05:48 PM.

[jpatdeleon09]

GoldenLeaf, on 12 April 2019 - 05:43 PM, said:

Just found this, on the back cover it says DSD and Stereo, however I'm not sure if both layers have the alternate mixes, does anyone can confirm ?

One thing to find out is to play it

Start with "If Walls Could Talk" if it stops at 5:25 instead of 5:18.. Then, this is the version you're looking for and care to share.. the IWCT? Just Curious

[GoldenLeaf]

jpatdeleon09, on 12 April 2019 - 10:39 PM, said:

One thing to find out is to play it

Start with "If Walls Could Talk" if it stops at 5:25 instead of 5:18.. Then, this is the version you're looking for and care to share.. the IWCT? Just Curious

I haven’t bought the SACD yet, just found the picture above on this website : https://picclick.com...1598091562.html

It seems like some versions of the ATW SACD only have a single layer (multichannel only) and some other versions have two layers (multichannel and stereo).

Edited by GoldenLeaf, 12 April 2019 - 11:01 PM.

[woodstock]

It's true that some tracks on "All the Way" SACD version have different mixes too : for exemple, "To Love You More" has a guitar sound at the "I'll be...." moment just after the bridge !

[GoldenLeaf]

jpatdeleon09, on 12 April 2019 - 10:39 PM, said:

One thing to find out is to play it

Start with "If Walls Could Talk" if it stops at 5:25 instead of 5:18.. Then, this is the version you're looking for and care to share.. the IWCT? Just Curious

I managed to download some tracks and I can confirm that only the Multichannel layer on the SACD have the alternate mixes, the stereo layer have the exact same mixes as the regular CD version.

Edited by GoldenLeaf, 13 April 2019 - 12:27 PM.