2898 replies to this topic

[Fanxiaoqiang]

Celine Dion’s most streamed songs

10/25/2019

1. My Heart Will Go On - 221,877,190 (+197,512)
2. Because You Loved Me - 133,249,247 (+ 172,119)
3. It’s All Coming Back To Me Now - 89,294,557 (+99,638)
4. The Power Of Love - 86,559,847 (+102,037)
5. Ashes - 60,977,608 (+66,920)
6. Beauty And The Beast - 57,136,785 (+51,273)
7. All By Myself - 54,295,886 (+51,145)
8. Happy Xmas (War Is Over) - 49,029,582 (+13,277)
9. I’m Alive - 48,375,697 (+49,951)
10. The Prayer - 41,879,663 (+32,462)

[Fanxiaoqiang]

Celine Dion’s most streamed songs

10/26/2019

1. My Heart Will Go On - 222,080,214 (+203,024)
2. Because You Loved Me - 133,421,975 (+ 172,728)
3. It’s All Coming Back To Me Now - 89,397,198 (+102,641)
4. The Power Of Love - 86,664,570 (+104,723)
5. Ashes - 61,044,758 (+67,150)
6. Beauty And The Beast - 57,187,259 (+50,474)
7. All By Myself - 54,348,033 (+52,147)
8. Happy Xmas (War Is Over) - 49,042,562 (+12,920)
9. I’m Alive - 48,426,309 (+50,612)
10. The Prayer - 41,913,052 (+33,389)

[PC_59]

For a million stream, Spotify pays about 7,000$. With Celine's number, Sony music is making at least 6M$ which is to be split between the owner's of the song's rights (Celine, writers, producers, recording label, etc.).

That's an impressive amount of cash.

[scielle]

PC_59, on 29 October 2019 - 03:28 PM, said:

For a million stream, Spotify pays about 7,000$. With Celine's number, Sony music is making at least 6M$ which is to be split between the owner's of the song's rights (Celine, writers, producers, recording label, etc.).

That's an impressive amount of cash.

That's not remotely close to reality...

The amount received by an artist from a DSP (Digital Service Provider, like Spotify, Deezer, Apple, etc) depends on a number of factors, including the artists specific contract, the deal their label has with the DSP, that label's share of the DSP's total streaming, and the artists share of streaming as % of their label's total.

So, for simplicity, let's assume Spotify charges $10 per user (in reality, the ARPU, or average revenue per user, is much lower than that, because of discounts, promotions, family and student plans, bundles, and emerging markets pricing which is a fraction of $10).

But let's assume $10 / user / month for easy math.
From there, Spotify pays about 13-15% ($1.30-$1.50) to the publisher (which then gets divided between the publisher and songwriters depending on the songwriters' individual contracts).
At the moment, Spotify pays about 52% out to the repertoire owner (i.e. the recording label), which can also be expressed as a per subscriber minimum (depending on the label's individual deal with Spotify, service tier, other factors). But for simplicity, let's say that $5.20.
That $5.20 is payable to all labels, in aggregate.
It then gets distributed to the labels based on their share of listening on the DSP. So, for e.g., if Sony constitutes 25% of Spotify's total streams, they get 25% x $5.20 = $1.30
That $1.30 then gets distributed amongst the artists on that label's roster.
So, if artist A represents 10% of Sony's streams on Spotify (and in reality, no artist is that high), that's 10% x $1.30 = $0.13
From there, you need to apply the artist's royalty rate. For most traditional label deals, that's about 15-20% all in.
Let's pick 15%, with the remaining 85% going to the label.
The 15% all in, means that this is inclusive of any 3rd party royalties the artist has to pay from their share (e.g. to the producer), which is usually about 3%. So the artist's net royalty is ~12%.
So, $0.13 x 12% = $0.0156.
Again, that's assuming a $10 starting price per user, for easy math.

In reality, across DSPs in the US, this all translates to an average of about $0.004 per stream payable to the label (but again, that depends on things like the label's deal with the the DSP, their market share, the artist's share of listening, etc.)
At 12% net royalty to the artist, that's $0.00048 per stream payable to the artist, or $480 for a million streams, but, the artist only sees any of this money if their advance is recouped.
For artists of Celine's caliber, recording advances go into the millions, and may take years to recoup, and the artist doesn't receive any royalties until they do.

Bottom line: this is why she tours much more than she records.

[Xpresso]

And that's why many artists weren't too happy about Spotify when it first started (and even now). Many artists complain that they barely get any money out of streaming.
Remember when Adele didn't want her new album (25) to be available on Spotify? It took about seven months for that album to be available on that platform. Music isn't as profitable as it once was. Touring is where the money is.

[Nmj]

Fanxiaoqiang, on 26 October 2019 - 08:10 AM, said:

Celine Dion’s most streamed songs

10/25/2019

1. My Heart Will Go On - 221,877,190 (+197,512)
2. Because You Loved Me - 133,249,247 (+ 172,119)
3. It’s All Coming Back To Me Now - 89,294,557 (+99,638)
4. The Power Of Love - 86,559,847 (+102,037)
5. Ashes - 60,977,608 (+66,920)
6. Beauty And The Beast - 57,136,785 (+51,273)
7. All By Myself - 54,295,886 (+51,145)
8. Happy Xmas (War Is Over) - 49,029,582 (+13,277)
9. I’m Alive - 48,375,697 (+49,951)
10. The Prayer - 41,879,663 (+32,462)

Looks like the setlist for the tour lol 8/10... 9/10 if you don’t count happy Xmas. And that’s why not including “Ashes” in this tour was a big surprise.

[Fanxiaoqiang]

Nmj, on 30 October 2019 - 11:55 AM, said:

Looks like the setlist for the tour lol 8/10... 9/10 if you don’t count happy Xmas. And that’s why not including “Ashes” in this tour was a big surprise.

I wonder why they don't through ashes into this album

[Fanxiaoqiang]

anybody please update some spo numbers about celines songs

[Fanxiaoqiang]

still no update
so sad

[wjd]

Celine Dion - Most Streamed Songs (Spotify)
07th Dec - 14th Dec

01. Happy Xmas (War Is Over) - 3,140,055
02. My Heart Will Go On - Love Theme from "Titanic" - 1,224,815
03. Because You Loved Me (Theme from "Up Close and Personal") - 1,041,148
04. Ashes - from "Deadpool 2" Motion Picture Soundtrack - 464,474
05. The Power of Love - 453,014
06. Imperfections - 427,520
07. The Prayer - 412,591
08. It's All Coming Back to Me Now - 386,263
09. O Holy Night - 348,050
10. That's the Way It Is - 329,537
11. All By Myself - 327,909
12. Beauty and the Beast - from the Soundtrack "Beauty and the Beast" - 324,545
13. I'm Alive - 306,702
14. Don't Save It All for Christmas Day - 297,497
15. Pour que tu m'aimes encore - 242,429
16. It's All Coming Back to Me Now - Radio Version - 240,622
17. Courage - 216,571
18. Lying Down - 209,069
19. Flying On My Own - 203,383
20. Lovers Never Die - 201,934
21. The Power of Love - Radio Edit - 195,551
22. Another Year Has Gone By - 186,509
23. Sous le vent - 165,145
24. J'Irai Ou Tu Iras (with Jean-Jacques Goldman) - en duo avec Jean-Jacques Goldman - 150,270
25. Think Twice - 138,894
26. Ave Maria - 134,205
27. Christmas Eve - 126,222
28. Hasta mi final - 118,815
29. The Magic Of Christmas Day (God Bless Us Everyone) - 116,462
30. I Drove All Night - 112,178
31. To Love You More - Radio Edit - 111,018
32. Falling In Love Again - 108,687
33. Feliz Navidad - 104,141
34. A New Day Has Come - Radio Remix - 102,965
35. Immortality (feat. Bee Gees) - 102,032
36. The Christmas Song (Chestnuts Roasting on an Open Fire) - 96,325
37. Change My Mind - 92,469
38. I Believe in You (Je crois en toi) - 91,349
39. Encore un soir - 86,226
40. Tell Him (Duet with Barbra Streisand) - 83,846
41. For The Lover That I Lost - 80,521
42. S'il suffisait d'aimer - 80,300
43. Baby - 79,273
44. Nobody's Watching - 79,218
45. Say Yes - 79,122
46. The Chase - 77,839
47. Blue Christmas - 76,746
48. Adeste Fideles (O Come All Ye Faithful) - 74,910
49. Heart of Glass - 73,087
50. On ne change pas - 71,787

Over the course of the last 7 days, Celine's catalogue has been streamed more than 17m times.

The These Are Special Times album was her most streamed album last week and had 5,270,043 streams; to-date, the album has had 157,372,951 streams.

Falling Into You has 299,637,023 streams - it should pass the 300m mark tomorrow - and it is her most streamed album. Including radio edits (that feature on her compilation records), the album has actually been streamed 340m times.

[jpatdeleon09]

It’s december. Of course TAST album will be played the most. That’s why.. they should haven’t released Courage album in Nov.

[fred]

Hasta Mi Final??? 😞😞

[Bruno Portugal]

jpatdeleon09, on 15 December 2019 - 01:04 AM, said:

It’s december. Of course TAST album will be played the most. That’s why.. they should haven’t released Courage album in Nov.

Exactly. The success formula they used in the 1990s no longer works. Sony Music has successively postponed the release of the Courage album to enjoy the Christmas season and this is the sad result.
If the album had been released in August or September it would have been much more prominent, Celine would have time to promote it and would be eligible for the next awards season.
Now we have an amazing album, in my opinion the best since FIY, which is set to become the biggest flop of Celine Dion's career.

[Robrules3]

Bruno Portugal, on 15 December 2019 - 12:44 PM, said:

Exactly. The success formula they used in the 1990s no longer works. Sony Music has successively postponed the release of the Courage album to enjoy the Christmas season and this is the sad result.
If the album had been released in August or September it would have been much more prominent, Celine would have time to promote it and would be eligible for the next awards season.
Now we have an amazing album, in my opinion the best since FIY, which is set to become the biggest flop of Celine Dion's career.

The biggest flop of her career is still likely to sell 500 000 copies, and in todays market thats a huge success for a veteran artist. Of course she could have sold a lot more if she promoted after album release, but its not the end of the world

[wjd]

Celine Dion - Most Streamed Songs (Spotify)
14th Dec - 21st Dec

01.    Happy Xmas (War Is Over)    -    3,638,753
02.    My Heart Will Go On - Love Theme from "Titanic"    -    1,246,592
03.    Because You Loved Me (Theme from "Up Close and Personal")    -    1,043,524
04.    The Prayer    -    459,493
05.    The Power of Love    -    449,283
06.    Ashes - from "Deadpool 2" Motion Picture Soundtrack    -    434,124
07.    O Holy Night    -    422,334
08.    Imperfections    -    417,139
09.    It's All Coming Back to Me Now    -    387,912
10.    Don't Save It All for Christmas Day    -    356,709
11.    Beauty and the Beast - from the Soundtrack "Beauty and the Beast"    -    327,036
12.    That's the Way It Is    -    325,060
13.    All By Myself    -    323,671
14.    I'm Alive    -    301,332
15.    Pour que tu m'aimes encore    -    240,910
16.    It's All Coming Back to Me Now - Radio Version    -    234,959
17.    Another Year Has Gone By    -    225,722
18.    Flying On My Own    -    207,227
19.    Courage    -    203,023
20.    The Power of Love - Radio Edit    -    194,702
21.    Lying Down    -    192,225
22.    Sous le vent    -    167,423
23.    Lovers Never Die    -    163,482
24.    Ave Maria    -    160,001
25.    J'Irai Ou Tu Iras (with Jean-Jacques Goldman) - en duo avec Jean-Jacques Goldman    -    156,843
26.    Christmas Eve    -    153,804
27.    The Magic Of Christmas Day (God Bless Us Everyone)    -    136,986
28.    Think Twice    -    134,901
29.    Feliz Navidad    -    122,795
30.    Hasta mi final    -    117,127
31.    The Christmas Song (Chestnuts Roasting on an Open Fire)    -    116,519
32.    I Drove All Night    -    107,753
33.    A New Day Has Come - Radio Remix    -    105,305
34.    To Love You More - Radio Edit    -    103,770
35.    Falling In Love Again    -    100,095
36.    Immortality (feat. Bee Gees)    -    99,133
37.    I Believe in You (Je crois en toi)    -    90,794
38.    Blue Christmas    -    90,720
39.    S'il suffisait d'aimer    -    88,049
40.    Adeste Fideles (O Come All Ye Faithful)    -    87,777
41.    Tell Him (Duet with Barbra Streisand)    -    83,536
42.    Change My Mind    -    83,287
43.    Encore un soir    -    82,268
44.    I'm Your Angel    -    79,598
45.    For The Lover That I Lost    -    72,583
46.    Baby    -    72,402
47.    Nobody's Watching    -    71,893
48.    Say Yes    -    70,938
49.    The Chase    -    69,350
50.    On ne change pas    -    69,125
51.    Brahms' Lullaby    -    69,061
52.    These Are the Special Times    -    67,718
53.    Heart of Glass    -    67,181
54.    A New Day Has Come    -    66,847
55.    How Did You Get Here    -    63,341
56.    Perfect Goodbye    -    63,065
57.    The Hard Way    -    62,682
58.    I Will Be Stronger    -    61,102
59.    Look at Us Now    -    60,351
60.    Best of All    -    58,608

During last week, and perhaps to nobody's surprise, Happy Xmas (War Is Over) topped the list again with over 3.6m streams.

These Are Special Times achieved a massive 6,158,326 streams and to date, it has had 163,531,277 streams.

To date, Courage has had 33,136,009 streams.

Last week, two albums had big milestones - Falling Into You (topped 300m) and D'eux (topped 100m).

[wjd]

Edited.

Edited by wjd, 21 December 2019 - 04:12 PM.

[Fanxiaoqiang]

wjd, on 21 December 2019 - 04:11 PM, said:

Edited.

thanks so very much for updating

[ordinary fan]

Robrules3, on 15 December 2019 - 10:01 PM, said:

The biggest flop of her career is still likely to sell 500 000 copies, and in todays market thats a huge success for a veteran artist. Of course she could have sold a lot more if she promoted after album release, but its not the end of the world

True words, thank you

[wjd]

Celine Dion - Most Streamed Songs (Spotify)
21st Dec - 28th Dec

01. Happy Xmas (War Is Over) - 5,819,456
02. My Heart Will Go On - Love Theme from "Titanic" - 1,347,200
03. Because You Loved Me (Theme from "Up Close and Personal") - 1,110,524
04. The Prayer - 649,783
05. O Holy Night - 621,101
06. Don't Save It All for Christmas Day - 558,647
07. The Power of Love - 493,413
08. Ashes - from "Deadpool 2" Motion Picture Soundtrack - 437,706
09. Imperfections - 412,946
10. It's All Coming Back to Me Now - 401,951
11. Beauty and the Beast - from the Soundtrack "Beauty and the Beast" - 355,490
12. All By Myself - 347,515
13. Another Year Has Gone By - 332,676
14. That's the Way It Is - 321,074
15. I'm Alive - 317,727
16. Pour que tu m'aimes encore - 283,975
17. Ave Maria - 258,078
18. It's All Coming Back to Me Now - Radio Version - 253,381
19. Christmas Eve - 247,175
20. Flying On My Own - 229,055
21. Lying Down - 225,635
22. Sous le vent - 209,782
23. Courage - 206,953
24. The Power of Love - Radio Edit - 206,538
25. J'Irai Ou Tu Iras (with Jean-Jacques Goldman) - en duo avec Jean-Jacques Goldman - 201,661
26. Feliz Navidad - 191,399
27. The Magic Of Christmas Day (God Bless Us Everyone) - 191,129
28. The Christmas Song (Chestnuts Roasting on an Open Fire) - 177,086
29. Think Twice - 147,102
30. Lovers Never Die - 139,760
31. Blue Christmas - 135,431
32. Adeste Fideles (O Come All Ye Faithful) - 126,335
33. Hasta mi final - 126,028
34. I Drove All Night - 112,329
35. Immortality (feat. Bee Gees) - 110,765
36. A New Day Has Come - Radio Remix - 108,282
37. Brahms' Lullaby - 107,946
38. I'm Your Angel - 105,394
39. To Love You More - Radio Edit - 104,070
40. Encore un soir - 102,682
41. Falling In Love Again - 101,141
42. I Believe in You (Je crois en toi) - 99,563
43. S'il suffisait d'aimer - 98,072
44. These Are the Special Times - 97,569
45. Tell Him (Duet with Barbra Streisand) - 93,399
46. Change My Mind - 81,453
47. Les Cloches du Hameau - 76,424
48. On ne change pas - 75,300
49. Nobody's Watching - 70,548
50. Baby - 69,706
51. For The Lover That I Lost - 69,673
52. Say Yes - 69,042
53. I Met an Angel (On Christmas Day) - 68,616
54. The Chase - 66,191
55. A New Day Has Come - 65,907
56. Heart of Glass - 63,811
57. Perfect Goodbye - 61,112
58. How Did You Get Here - 60,980
59. The Hard Way - 59,609
60. Alone - 59,259

The Spotify numbers tool on Chartmasters was down yesterday when I checked so it's possible that the above is based on 8 days and not 7 days streams - I guess we'll see next week

[wjd]

Over at the website I own - UKMIX - I’ve started to build a database of the most successful live acts ever and I’ve started with the women! See here if interested: https://www.ukmix.or...cts-of-All-Time

Anyway, guess who’s #1 as far as women goes?

[pat200]

great job Wayne!

[Dane]

Hasta mi final? What song is that?

[mebe]

Dane, on 03 January 2020 - 02:50 PM, said:

Hasta mi final? What song is that?

Was also wondering ...

Envoyé de mon SM-A520W en utilisant Tapatalk

[beelee]

wjd said:

1577947867[/url]' post='2373951']
Over at the website I own - UKMIX - I've started to build a database of the most successful live acts ever and I've started with the women! See here if interested: https://www.ukmix.or...cts-of-All-Time

Anyway, guess who's #1 as far as women goes?

Wow, I didn’t realize you own UKMIX!  I love that forum!

Edited by beelee, 12 January 2020 - 10:32 PM.

[SantiagoColorado]

Dane, on 03 January 2020 - 02:50 PM, said:

Hasta mi final? What song is that?

mebe, on 03 January 2020 - 07:39 PM, said:

Was also wondering ...

Envoyé de mon SM-A520W en utilisant Tapatalk

weird, it's an Il Divo song

[Davey84]

Does anyone have the current Spotify count for Courage the album?

[Fanxiaoqiang]

Davey84, on 12 February 2020 - 01:48 AM, said:

Does anyone have the current Spotify count for Courage the album?

total：44M➕   the whole album

[Davey84]

Fanxiaoqiang, on 12 February 2020 - 05:02 AM, said:

total：44M➕   the whole album

awesome! Thanks! But do you have a breakdown per song?

[Fanxiaoqiang]

Davey84, on 12 February 2020 - 05:48 AM, said:

awesome! Thanks! But do you have a breakdown per song?

by February 7th, 2020,

06,295,471 (+604,168) 01. Flying On My Own
02,942,879 (+338,461) 02. Lovers Never Die
01,468,087 (+273,425) 03. Falling In Love Again
04,874,543 (+595,703) 04. Lying Down
04,345,205 (+521,149) 05. Courage
10,774,599 (+1,248,420) 06. Imperfections
01,164,530 (+163,303) 07. Change My Mind
00,999,005 (+129,603) 08. Say Yes
01,009,576 (+140,066) 09. Nobody's Watching
00,941,745 (+122,386) 10. The Chase
01,033,037 (+157,246) 11. For The Lover That I Lost
01,007,025 (+142,988) 12. Baby
00,856,445 (+113,790) 13. I Will Be Stronger
00,870,197 (+119,623) 14. How Did You Get Here
00,834,225 (+113,887) 15. Look at Us Now
00,884,236 (+124,118) 16. Perfect Goodbye
00,786,153 (+105,329) 17. Best of All
00,916,539 (+137,419) 18. Heart of Glass
00,760,083 (+101,068) 19. Boundaries
00,856,623 (+126,271) 20. The Hard Way
00,651,809 (+647,797) 21. Soul
___________________________

44,272,012 TOTAL STREAMS

[Davey84]

Thank you very much for the breakdown! Am I a debby downer if I say I think these numbers are a bit disappointing? I mean 1 song is responsible for almost 25% of all the plays...

Where are the fans? Aren't they on Spotify? Are people not bothered? Don't people like the songs? Or doesn't the majority of the general public know there are new songs out? (Aka lack of promotion/radio support/no support by not being added to hot Spotify playlists)

I'm sure her team must be asking themselves the same things...

Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G950F met Tapatalk