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[comingback]

LukeD, on 04 November 2023 - 02:14 AM, said:

With all that s*** that is going on around the world I believe ''Happy Christmas (War Is Over)'' will be streamed more times this year than any previous year.

Yes, they should upload The Prayer (from the TAST TV Special) and Happy X-mas (from another Special with G. Estefan) on her YT channel.

Edited by comingback, 04 November 2023 - 07:34 AM.

[Fanxiaoqiang]

comingback, on 04 November 2023 - 07:32 AM, said:

Yes, they should upload The Prayer (from the TAST TV Special) and Happy X-mas (from another Special with G. Estefan) on her YT channel.

not only these two songs
celine has so many incredible live performance:d “Adeste Fideles (O Come All Ye Faithful)”,  “The Prayer” “Christmas Eve”, and “Don’t Save It All For Christmas Day”
especially with Michael Bublé

[blacktooth]

[LukeD]

Guiness World Records released a list of the top 5 best selling female artists:

01.Madonna
02.Rihanna
03.Mariah Carey
04.Taylor Swift
05.Beyonce



This is such BULLSHIT! I am so frustrated! Celine deserves the 2nd spot considering she has sold over 195.000.000 PHYSICAL ALBUMS.

The main reason she is missing a higher spot is because she is so grossly undercertified. See her single sales in United States for example. Her certifications stand at approximately 12m which is FAR below what she has sold and what her certifications should be (around 25m actually).

The following singles have NO certification but are eligible for one:

- Where Does My Heart Beat Now should be 1xGOLD
- If You Asked Me To 1xGOLD
- To Love You More 1xGOLD
- The Prayer 1xPLATINUM
- O Holy Night 1xGOLD
- That's The Way It Is 1xGOLD
- A New Days Has Come 1xGOLD
- I'm Alive 1xGOLD
- I Drove All Night 1xGOLD
- Taking Chances 1xGOLD
- Ashes 1xGOLD

So we get 6m uncertified sales from these.

There are also singles that are eligible for a higher certification.

- My Heart Will Go On is eligible for 6xP (currently 4xP)
- Because You Loved Me is eligible for 4xP (currently 2xP)
- It's All Coming Back To Me Now is eligible for 3xP (currently 2xP)
- The Power Of Love is eligible for 2xP (currently 1xP)
- All By Myself is eligible for 1xP (currently 1xG)
- Beauty And The Beast is eligible for 1xP (currently 1xG)
- I'm Your Angel soon to be eligible for 2xP

So she is missing like 7m from these. Adding the 6m above, we talk about 13.000.000 single sales that are nowhere in the radar of GWR. And these come from ONE market only.

Source: UKMIX Forums

So... What the f*** is her team doing? Why do they not push for her songs to be certified? Do they not realise that this impacts her image?

Some albums need a higher certification too:

Celine Dion is eligible for 3xP in US (Currently 2xP)
All The Way...A Decade of Songs is eligible for at least 9xP (currently 7xP)
The Collector's Series Vol. 1 is eligible for 1xP
My Love...The Essential Collection is eligible for 1xGOLD

Needless to say that FIY and LTAL sell like hotcakes still and will soon be eligible for 13xP and 12xP certifications, respectively.

Edited by LukeD, 10 November 2023 - 06:19 AM.

[Dreamy]

LukeD, on 10 November 2023 - 06:16 AM, said:

Guiness World Records released a list of the top 5 best selling female artists:

01.Madonna
02.Rihanna
03.Mariah Carey
04.Taylor Swift
05.Beyonce



This is such BULLSHIT! I am so frustrated! Celine deserves the 2nd spot considering she has sold over 195.000.000 PHYSICAL ALBUMS.

The main reason she is missing a higher spot is because she is so grossly undercertified. See her single sales in United States for example. Her certifications stand at approximately 12m which is FAR below what she has sold and what her certifications should be (around 25m actually).

The following singles have NO certification but are eligible for one:

- Where Does My Heart Beat Now should be 1xGOLD
- If You Asked Me To 1xGOLD
- To Love You More 1xGOLD
- The Prayer 1xPLATINUM
- O Holy Night 1xGOLD
- That's The Way It Is 1xGOLD
- A New Days Has Come 1xGOLD
- I'm Alive 1xGOLD
- I Drove All Night 1xGOLD
- Taking Chances 1xGOLD
- Ashes 1xGOLD

So we get 6m uncertified sales from these.

There are also singles that are eligible for a higher certification.

- My Heart Will Go On is eligible for 6xP (currently 4xP)
- Because You Loved Me is eligible for 4xP (currently 2xP)
- It's All Coming Back To Me Now is eligible for 3xP (currently 2xP)
- The Power Of Love is eligible for 2xP (currently 1xP)
- All By Myself is eligible for 1xP (currently 1xG)
- Beauty And The Beast is eligible for 1xP (currently 1xG)
- I'm Your Angel soon to be eligible for 2xP

So she is missing like 7m from these. Adding the 6m above, we talk about 13.000.000 single sales that are nowhere in the radar of GWR. And these come from ONE market only.

Source: UKMIX Forums

So... What the f*** is her team doing? Why do they not push for her songs to be certified? Do they not realise that this impacts her image?

Some albums need a higher certification too:

Celine Dion is eligible for 3xP in US (Currently 2xP)
All The Way...A Decade of Songs is eligible for at least 9xP (currently 7xP)
The Collector's Series Vol. 1 is eligible for 1xP
My Love...The Essential Collection is eligible for 1xGOLD

Needless to say that FIY and LTAL sell like hotcakes still and will soon be eligible for 13xP and 12xP certifications, respectively.

I'm very upset about it.
It's time to make something.

I Share here that I wrote a few days ago of I may and I am sorry for doing that.

Hello everyone:
How are you?
Sorry if I am writing in the wrong post.

I know that we are not happy about Sony music and Team Céline is lately not doing anything to promote her, not doing anything right celebrating the anniversaries of her albums, now TAST deserves a huge celebration.
Do you trust me?
Nobody is obliged to do what I am going to propose.
But I would like to express our discontent on all Sony music social networks.
The main message is to let them know that Céline deserves another record company that values, takes care of her projects and promotes her with a good team.
That it is time for changes in her discographic career.
I propose all this so get the atrention of Sony Music, Céline's manager, can take notice and draw the attention of other record companies that I am 100% sure would do everything possible to hire Céline. I know that Sony Music has the rights to her catalog, but everything is a matter of negotiation and nothing is impossible.
Well, this is my proposal. Maybe it sounds very daring but my interest, like yours, is for Céline to maintain her megastar status.
Be safe everyone
Best wishes

[rodrigofreitas]

LukeD, on 10 November 2023 - 06:16 AM, said:

Guiness World Records released a list of the top 5 best selling female artists:

01.Madonna
02.Rihanna
03.Mariah Carey
04.Taylor Swift
05.Beyonce



This is such BULLSHIT! I am so frustrated! Celine deserves the 2nd spot considering she has sold over 195.000.000 PHYSICAL ALBUMS.

The main reason she is missing a higher spot is because she is so grossly undercertified. See her single sales in United States for example. Her certifications stand at approximately 12m which is FAR below what she has sold and what her certifications should be (around 25m actually).

The following singles have NO certification but are eligible for one:

- Where Does My Heart Beat Now should be 1xGOLD
- If You Asked Me To 1xGOLD
- To Love You More 1xGOLD
- The Prayer 1xPLATINUM
- O Holy Night 1xGOLD
- That's The Way It Is 1xGOLD
- A New Days Has Come 1xGOLD
- I'm Alive 1xGOLD
- I Drove All Night 1xGOLD
- Taking Chances 1xGOLD
- Ashes 1xGOLD

So we get 6m uncertified sales from these.

There are also singles that are eligible for a higher certification.

- My Heart Will Go On is eligible for 6xP (currently 4xP)
- Because You Loved Me is eligible for 4xP (currently 2xP)
- It's All Coming Back To Me Now is eligible for 3xP (currently 2xP)
- The Power Of Love is eligible for 2xP (currently 1xP)
- All By Myself is eligible for 1xP (currently 1xG)
- Beauty And The Beast is eligible for 1xP (currently 1xG)
- I'm Your Angel soon to be eligible for 2xP

So she is missing like 7m from these. Adding the 6m above, we talk about 13.000.000 single sales that are nowhere in the radar of GWR. And these come from ONE market only.

Source: UKMIX Forums

So... What the f*** is her team doing? Why do they not push for her songs to be certified? Do they not realise that this impacts her image?

Some albums need a higher certification too:

Celine Dion is eligible for 3xP in US (Currently 2xP)
All The Way...A Decade of Songs is eligible for at least 9xP (currently 7xP)
The Collector's Series Vol. 1 is eligible for 1xP
My Love...The Essential Collection is eligible for 1xGOLD

Needless to say that FIY and LTAL sell like hotcakes still and will soon be eligible for 13xP and 12xP certifications, respectively.

Where is the official link about this from Guinness? Or is just FAN MADE list again?

[LukeD]

rodrigofreitas, on 10 November 2023 - 06:51 AM, said:

Where is the official link about this from Guinness? Or is just FAN MADE list again?

If you Google it you will see results. Links were also shared on Twitter and UKMIX Forum.

[comingback]

LukeD, on 10 November 2023 - 06:16 AM, said:

Guiness World Records released a list of the top 5 best selling female artists:

01.Madonna
02.Rihanna
03.Mariah Carey
04.Taylor Swift
05.Beyonce



This is such BULLSHIT! I am so frustrated! Celine deserves the 2nd spot considering she has sold over 195.000.000 PHYSICAL ALBUMS.

The main reason she is missing a higher spot is because she is so grossly undercertified. See her single sales in United States for example. Her certifications stand at approximately 12m which is FAR below what she has sold and what her certifications should be (around 25m actually).

The following singles have NO certification but are eligible for one:

- Where Does My Heart Beat Now should be 1xGOLD
- If You Asked Me To 1xGOLD
- To Love You More 1xGOLD
- The Prayer 1xPLATINUM
- O Holy Night 1xGOLD
- That's The Way It Is 1xGOLD
- A New Days Has Come 1xGOLD
- I'm Alive 1xGOLD
- I Drove All Night 1xGOLD
- Taking Chances 1xGOLD
- Ashes 1xGOLD

So we get 6m uncertified sales from these.

There are also singles that are eligible for a higher certification.

- My Heart Will Go On is eligible for 6xP (currently 4xP)
- Because You Loved Me is eligible for 4xP (currently 2xP)
- It's All Coming Back To Me Now is eligible for 3xP (currently 2xP)
- The Power Of Love is eligible for 2xP (currently 1xP)
- All By Myself is eligible for 1xP (currently 1xG)
- Beauty And The Beast is eligible for 1xP (currently 1xG)
- I'm Your Angel soon to be eligible for 2xP

So she is missing like 7m from these. Adding the 6m above, we talk about 13.000.000 single sales that are nowhere in the radar of GWR. And these come from ONE market only.

Source: UKMIX Forums

So... What the f*** is her team doing? Why do they not push for her songs to be certified? Do they not realise that this impacts her image?

Some albums need a higher certification too:

Celine Dion is eligible for 3xP in US (Currently 2xP)
All The Way...A Decade of Songs is eligible for at least 9xP (currently 7xP)
The Collector's Series Vol. 1 is eligible for 1xP
My Love...The Essential Collection is eligible for 1xGOLD

Needless to say that FIY and LTAL sell like hotcakes still and will soon be eligible for 13xP and 12xP certifications, respectively.

We know that Rihanna, Taylor Swift and Beyonce have strong digital sales, but did they really sell 150-200 Mio records? 🤔
I have my doubts. But Mariah? She also has strong didital sales (especially in Christmas time). So maybe she has a recordsale between 170-200 Mio?

Yes, Sony Music Canada should update Celine's sales! When was the last update?

[anewdionhascome]

LukeD, on 10 November 2023 - 06:16 AM, said:

Guiness World Records released a list of the top 5 best selling female artists:

01.Madonna
02.Rihanna
03.Mariah Carey
04.Taylor Swift
05.Beyonce



This is such BULLSHIT! I am so frustrated! Celine deserves the 2nd spot considering she has sold over 195.000.000 PHYSICAL ALBUMS.

The main reason she is missing a higher spot is because she is so grossly undercertified. See her single sales in United States for example. Her certifications stand at approximately 12m which is FAR below what she has sold and what her certifications should be (around 25m actually).

The following singles have NO certification but are eligible for one:

- Where Does My Heart Beat Now should be 1xGOLD
- If You Asked Me To 1xGOLD
- To Love You More 1xGOLD
- The Prayer 1xPLATINUM
- O Holy Night 1xGOLD
- That's The Way It Is 1xGOLD
- A New Days Has Come 1xGOLD
- I'm Alive 1xGOLD
- I Drove All Night 1xGOLD
- Taking Chances 1xGOLD
- Ashes 1xGOLD

So we get 6m uncertified sales from these.

There are also singles that are eligible for a higher certification.

- My Heart Will Go On is eligible for 6xP (currently 4xP)
- Because You Loved Me is eligible for 4xP (currently 2xP)
- It's All Coming Back To Me Now is eligible for 3xP (currently 2xP)
- The Power Of Love is eligible for 2xP (currently 1xP)
- All By Myself is eligible for 1xP (currently 1xG)
- Beauty And The Beast is eligible for 1xP (currently 1xG)
- I'm Your Angel soon to be eligible for 2xP

So she is missing like 7m from these. Adding the 6m above, we talk about 13.000.000 single sales that are nowhere in the radar of GWR. And these come from ONE market only.

Source: UKMIX Forums

So... What the f*** is her team doing? Why do they not push for her songs to be certified? Do they not realise that this impacts her image?

Some albums need a higher certification too:

Celine Dion is eligible for 3xP in US (Currently 2xP)
All The Way...A Decade of Songs is eligible for at least 9xP (currently 7xP)
The Collector's Series Vol. 1 is eligible for 1xP
My Love...The Essential Collection is eligible for 1xGOLD

Needless to say that FIY and LTAL sell like hotcakes still and will soon be eligible for 13xP and 12xP certifications, respectively.

I think were pointing on the wrong target. The one should be in question is who ever wrote the article. It states that Madonna is the best-selling female artist of all time with 400 million sales because she (Madge) said so lol. Beyonce outselling Céline is just absurb and questionable, let alone her absence in the top 5. Updating her certifications wouldn't really do anything if Sony Music and her team wont solidify and make a move to prove that Celine is still indeed among the top 5 female sellers in history. I hope they see that article and do something soon.

Link to the article: https://www.guinness...all-time-760147

Edited by anewdionhascome, 10 November 2023 - 08:12 AM.

[rodrigofreitas]

Look at this note from Guinnes:

https://www.guinness...ecording-artist


Who: Madonna
What:400,000,000 unit(s) sold
Where:Not Applicable ()
When: 15 September 2023


On an episode of The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon (NBC) on 10 August 2022, guest Madonna (USA, b. Madonna Ciccone) claimed that she had sold over 400 million records (albums and singles, including digital) during her career. Although precise sales figures are difficult to obtain and are often disputed, it is widely acknowledged that only The Beatles, Elvis Presley and Michael Jackson have conclusively sold more records worldwide than Madonna, with most estimates settling on a figure between 300 and 400 million.   
Her biggest-selling albums include The Immaculate Collection (1990; c. 30 million copies sold), True Blue (1986; c. 25 million) and Like a Virgin (1984; c. 22 million), while a handful of her singles are estimated to have registered worldwide sales of more than 5 million units, including “Like a Virgin” (1984), “Like a Prayer” (1989), “Vogue” (1990), “Hung Up” (2005) and “4 Minutes” (2008).

In her homeland, Madonna has Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA)-certified units of 65.5 million albums and 18.5 million singles, with 20 gold, 17 platinum and 12 multi-platinum album awards and 27 gold, 6 platinum and 2 multi-platinum singles awards.
Her highest-certified albums are The Immaculate Collection (11x multi-platinum) and Like a Virgin (10x multi-platinum), while the singles “4 Minutes” and “Vogue” have both been certified 2x multi-platinum by the RIAA.
In the UK, The Immaculate Collection (3.73 million) is her biggest-selling album, according to the Official Charts Company, and she leads the way among female artists for the most UK No.1 albums (12) and singles (13) in a 40-year-long career.

   It's like, You only need to go to a TV Program and to say: I'm the Best Selling Female Recording Artist" to enter on Guinnes Book

Edited by rodrigofreitas, 10 November 2023 - 08:31 AM.

[LukeD]

comingback, on 10 November 2023 - 07:41 AM, said:

We know that Rihanna, Taylor Swift and Beyonce have strong digital sales, but did they really sell 150-200 Mio records? ��
I have my doubts. But Mariah? She also has strong didital sales (especially in Christmas time). So maybe she has a recordsale between 170-200 Mio?

Yes, Sony Music Canada should update Celine's sales! When was the last update?

Both Celine and Mariah have sold over 250m records (albums & singles & DVDs). But Celine always edges her out in record sales and by far surpass her in tciket sales, so overall she is consistently the best selling recording artist. I mean Encore Un Soir sold more than Caution, The Elusive Chanteuse, and MC2Y COMBINED. Enough said.

[rodrigofreitas]

LukeD, on 10 November 2023 - 08:56 AM, said:

Both Celine and Mariah have sold over 250m records (albums & singles & DVDs). But Celine always edges her out in record sales and by far surpass her in tciket sales, so overall she is consistently the best selling recording artist. I mean Encore Un Soir sold more than Caution, The Elusive Chanteuse, and MC2Y COMBINED. Enough said.

Mariah sold 200 million albums
Celine sold 250 million albums
Both sold more with singles, DVDs and Digital Tracks

[rodrigofreitas]

Only Mariah and Celine received the diamond award.

[LukeD]

rodrigofreitas, on 10 November 2023 - 09:02 AM, said:

Mariah sold 200 million albums
Celine sold 250 million albums
Both sold more with singles, DVDs and Digital Tracks

The albums are the easiest to estimate. Celine has sold around 200m albums and Mariah around 160m albums.

[pat200]

The source for the Guinness article proves that this establishment has become invalid just like so many things in the world today. Standards in investigating and reporting are at an all time low. A baboon can claim something and you will have Guinness, New York Times, CNN and every other news outlet reporting it as a fact. This doesn't say good things about where society is heading...

Celine in terms of RECORDS (not just albums) sold, is 3rd overall, unless they are adding Destiny's Child to Beyonce's tallies, which would make Celine 4th then. She suffers from the low amount of digital singles she sold. However in terms of value of the sales of these records, Celine is 2nd, and it takes 3 physical singles to equate one album, and 10 digital singles to equate one album.

[blacktooth]

[LukeD]

I am even frustrated with the concept of 'streaming' counting as sales. So basically if you replay a song for free this will eventually constitute a sale for the artist. How absurd!

So LTAL sold 32.000.000 copies worldwide. People actually went to the store and bought it. Imagine how many times they replayed the album in their homes! Now imagine that replay value adding to the album sales back in the day. We would talk about total record sales of 90.000.000, if not more.

[blacktooth]

[ninetales]

The best figures in months so far. Celine's streams have been improving lately esp.those from I'm Alive, TPOL, ABM. And I'm pretty sure, these are better compared to last year.

[LukeD]

ninetales, on 11 November 2023 - 07:33 PM, said:

The best figures in months so far. Celine's streams have been improving lately esp.those from I'm Alive, TPOL, ABM. And I'm pretty sure, these are better compared to last year.

Her monthly listeners always peak in November and December, I attribute this to TAST. Last year she was slightly above 18m monthly listeners, maybe she can reach 20m this year.

[ninetales]

LukeD, on 12 November 2023 - 02:27 AM, said:

Her monthly listeners always peak in November and December, I attribute this to TAST. Last year she was slightly above 18m monthly listeners, maybe she can reach 20m this year.

Yes, that is given. I'm Alive and ABM have just registered their all time highest figures.

Celine's monthly listeners is 13.7M which stands at #528. #500 artist has 14.5M ML. Let's wait 'til end of Nov and she'll re-enter top 500.

Edited by ninetales, 12 November 2023 - 04:46 AM.

[blacktooth]

[emi&celine]

“Happy Xmas” is so close to 100k daily streams already. Last year the song reached that number on Nov 19 🤞🤞🤞

[emi&celine]

I think they should add “Happy Xmas” to the “This Is Céline Dion” playlist on Spotify already.

[smw]

emi&celine, on 14 November 2023 - 06:16 AM, said:

I think they should add “Happy Xmas” to the “This Is Céline Dion” playlist on Spotify already.

Agreed. Easy way to boost streams.

And this song is becoming her biggest Christmas song.

Edited by smw, 20 November 2023 - 09:39 PM.

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[blacktooth]

[LukeD]

Celine is finally back to Top 500 Spotify artists at number #498!

[blacktooth]

[LukeD]

''Happy Christmas (War Is Over)'' begs to become her signature Christmas song and her team is not doing anything about it. They could have created a lyric video to upload on YT? Is this too much to ask? I am wondering. Also ''O Holy Night'' deserves better treatment. It is eligible for Gold certification in the U.S.