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[Chin]

Everything is related to money... and it's the world we're living in

[SantiagoColorado]

SuperLove4Celine, on 28 May 2014 - 06:53 PM, said:

Her team understands that touring in Europe and Asia are guaranteed money makers.  Whereas, shooting a music video costs money and isn't guaranteed to generate a profit, be it long term or short term.  I know it's hard to read, but it's the truth and how part of the music business works.  Or should I say, "...today's music business works."?

Well... on today's music bussiness, singers and performers release a music video for their singles (Celine has at least 4 singles for LMBTL) and then go on tour... Of course they can make money for "touring" and that's why they are in Las Vegas, I think.

A music video does not guarantee a profit but helps with the album sales and promotion for any tour. Of course they don't need a music video because they aren't doing a World Tour, they're just choosing the countries with the higher sales (Antwerp and France for Sans Attendre and Now China for LMBTL), so they have the guarantee of that profit.

But hey! Let's stop complaining (in my case lol)!!! IT'S NOT CONFIRMED YET!

Edited by SantiagoColorado, 28 May 2014 - 07:11 PM.

[NicoNV]

SuperLove4Celine, on 28 May 2014 - 06:53 PM, said:

Her team understands that touring in Europe and Asia are guaranteed money makers.  Whereas, shooting a music video costs money and isn't guaranteed to generate a profit, be it long term or short term.  I know it's hard to read, but it's the truth and how part of the music business works.  Or should I say, "...today's music business works."?

SantiagoColorado, on 28 May 2014 - 07:10 PM, said:

Well... on today's music bussiness, singers and performers release a music video for their singles (Celine has at least 4 singles for LMBTL) and then go on tour... Of course they can make money for "touring" and that's why they are in Las Vegas, I think.

A music video does not guarantee a profit but helps with the album sales and promotion for any tour. Of course they don't need a music video because they aren't doing a World Tour, they're just choosing the countries with the higher sales (Antwerp and France for Sans Attendre and Now China for LMBTL), so they have the guarantee of that profit.

But hey! Let's stop complaining (in my case lol)!!! IT'S NOT CONFIRMED YET!

I think it has to do with the fact she has always said she prefers live performance, and she has said in interviews she wishes she could tour but a big world tour all at once is not feasible right now. She did briefly discuss the possibility of doing a world tour, but doing it in pieces, just like she performed in Paris. So, if she does go to China, it would not be out of the blue. It would seem consistent with the idea of touring the world, but in stages.


Really, I hope for the fans in Asia that she does do a short concert series (I know other fans want her to visit near them as well, but this thread is about the possibility of her tour in China and maybe Hong Kong)


Music videos cost an artist money out of their own pocket. A tour would, in theory, be covered by her Sony contract. So, doing another mini-tour lets her do promotion the way she prefers (live performance), at her pace and on her schedule (to some degree at least) at not as much cost to her as a series of music videos,  most artists and music labels make the most money from a tour as opposed to album sales or other promotions, a mini-tour probably gets more press than a random music video release, and fans who haven't seen her perform live in years get the chance to do so! All in all, it sounds like a win for everyone--much more so than a music video being posted on YouTube (at least in the United States, music videos are almost never played on television anymore). Plus, I think the concept of doing a world tour in stages is unique: she is both like a resident artist in the United States (due to Vegas), but she can still announce huge sold out shows around the world. It makes her seem more like an in demand commodity than just a touring machine.

Edited by NicoNV, 28 May 2014 - 07:42 PM.

[ehild]

RH posted something about this earlier today but it was very inconspicuous what they meant the way they worded.

[NicoNV]

ehild, on 28 May 2014 - 07:43 PM, said:

RH posted something about this earlier today but it was very inconspicuous what they meant the way they worded.

Yes, they asked if fans had started dreaming of Macau....


Call me an eternal optimist...but, maybe when they announce the mini-tour, they will release the Incredible video?

Edited by NicoNV, 28 May 2014 - 07:55 PM.

[cwnice]

where to find RH?

[ryba]

And why not in Germany or UK too?

[Celinefan1993]

If she comes to London, UK, I will be there for sure.. I never been to London and it's on my wishlist!! That would be nice to do two things at a time

[MrTim212]

Hopefully we will get a 2CD + BluRay/DVD of this show too! Maybe "Celine... Live 2014"?!

Would love to see:

• Unfinished Songs (a capella)
  
• I'm Alive (Remix)
  
• Loved Me Back to Life
  
• It's All Coming Back To Me Now
  
• The Power of Love
  
• Where Does My Heart Beat Now
  
• A New Day Has Come (Radio Remix)
  
• Somebody Loves Somebody
  
• The Reason
  
• At Seventeen
  
• Water and a Flame
  
• I Drove All Night
  
• Eyes On Me
  
• Breakaway
  
• Beauty and the Beast
  
• Because You Loved Me
  
• All By Myself
  
• Thankful
  
• Unison / Misled / Declaration of Love
  
• Love Can Move Mountains / River Deep Mountain High
  
• My Heart Will Go On
  
• Incredible
  
• Thank You
  
• Unfinished Songs (a cappella)

[CelineDionFreak]

MrTim212, on 29 May 2014 - 10:44 AM, said:

Hopefully we will get a 2CD + BluRay/DVD of this show too! Maybe "Celine... Live 2014"?!

Would love to see:

• Unfinished Songs (a capella)
  
• I'm Alive (Remix)
  
• Loved Me Back to Life
  
• It's All Coming Back To Me Now
  
• The Power of Love
  
• Where Does My Heart Beat Now
  
• A New Day Has Come (Radio Remix)
  
• Somebody Loves Somebody
  
• The Reason
  
• At Seventeen
  
• Water and a Flame
  
• I Drove All Night
  
• Eyes On Me
  
• Breakaway
  
• Beauty and the Beast
  
• Because You Loved Me
  
• All By Myself
  
• Thankful
  
• Unison / Misled / Declaration of Love
  
• Love Can Move Mountains / River Deep Mountain High
  
• My Heart Will Go On
  
• Incredible
  
• Thank You
  
• Unfinished Songs (a cappella)

I really do like that idea! Lots of new songs from the album, but oldies too.

[SuperLove4Celine]

MrTim212, on 29 May 2014 - 10:44 AM, said:

Hopefully we will get a 2CD + BluRay/DVD of this show too! Maybe "Celine... Live 2014"?!

Would love to see:

• Unfinished Songs (a capella)
  
  
• I'm Alive (Remix)
  
  
• Loved Me Back to Life
  
  
• It's All Coming Back To Me Now
  
  
• The Power of Love
  
  
• Where Does My Heart Beat Now
  
  
• A New Day Has Come (Radio Remix)
  
  
• Somebody Loves Somebody
  
  
• The Reason
  
  
• At Seventeen
  
  
• Water and a Flame
  
  
• I Drove All Night
  
  
• Eyes On Me
  
  
• Breakaway
  
  
• Beauty and the Beast
  
  
• Because You Loved Me
  
  
• All By Myself
  
  
• Thankful
  
  
• Unison / Misled / Declaration of Love
  
  
• Love Can Move Mountains / River Deep Mountain High
  
  
• My Heart Will Go On
  
  
• Incredible
  
  
• Thank You
  
  
• Unfinished Songs (a cappella)

Very nice.  I like how you incorporated "Unfinished Songs" as bookends for the concert.  I had a similar concept for if "Celine" were to be revamped.  I posted it a few weeks back.

Edited by SuperLove4Celine, 29 May 2014 - 12:57 PM.

[DionFanAlways]

Guys this is rumor right? So if nothing comes of this, which I doubt will, let's be civil to one another!

[Stuart2007]

Going to China just makes a lot of sense.  Huge population, more wealthy people than ever before.  The infrastructure to accomodate tens of thousands of fans hopefully without massive traffic jams or other incedents that would cause negative publicity.  

We keep hearing from fans saying why not my country?  If you live in a country that has experienced riots or other types of unrest then a concert would be less likely there.  If you live in countries that have long standing disputes with others then don't get your hopes up.  China is the exception to this rule for the same reason that you don't see the US cutting back on trade with China despite backing other countries that feel threatened by their big neighbour.  The money talks loudest.

[gafsa]

Celine should come to Indonesia since indonesia always pays artist to come higher. And i'm sure there won't be protets ig she come, i mean who can relate Celine to evil things ?

[marc-02]

It's official. Celine will perform in Macau on the 8th of November.


Manny Pacquiao’s Macau fight moved to Nov. 23–Arum
By Marc Anthony Reyes
Philippine Daily Inquirer
1:47 am | Thursday, May 29th, 2014
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MACAU—Celine Dion has “boxed out” Manny Pacquiao from the spotlight.
The superstar singer will stage a concert on Nov. 8 at Cotai Arena in the palatial Venetian Hotel and Casino here, forcing Top Rank to move Pacquiao’s next fight from the previous scheduled date of Nov. 16 to Nov. 23.
Top Rank big boss Bob Arum, in town for the Nonito Donaire-Simpiwe Vetyeka WBA featherweight title fight, said they have moved the date for the Pacquiao mega fight.
The reason behind the move is to give organizers enough time to drumbeat the two major spectacles to be held in the biggest casino complex in the region.
Arum said he has talked to Pacquiao camp but has yet to name the next opponent. Among those mentioned are Amir Khan, Ruslan Provodnikov and Juan Manuel Marquez.
“We have lots of names, list and list of names,” Arum told Filipino sportswriters during the grand arrival of Donaire and Vetyeka at the hotel main lobby.
Arum added that Pacquiao could get the biggest paycheck of his career in the next fight. “Manny can’t make less—for any fight—than $20 million,” said Arum. “It goes up from there, somewhere between $20 million to $30 million,” he said.


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[anewdayhascome]

Incredibleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee o o o o .... Incredibleeeeeee o o o o... I'll believe such news once celinedion.com posts it.

[DionFanAlways]

Are there two topics on this "concert"? The LV Sun has an article on it also. lasvegassun.com/vegasdeluxe/2014/may/29/robin-leach-macau-venetian-headliners-celine-dion-/#.U4g4qea2c7o.twitter …

[Yentl Anchel]

I wouldn't get my hopes too high on this, there are only rumours, and really if this would be in November wouldn't the tickets already be on sale? Since tickets for Paris and Antwerp went on sale in April or so. But if she does that would be great for the fans living in Asia

[LukeD]

If she goes for a mini-tour again she HAS to be in UK and Canada cause these markets really embraced her latest album. China not so much. And she had been there in 2013.

[Timster]

LukeD, on 30 May 2014 - 06:09 AM, said:

If she goes for a mini-tour again she HAS to be in UK and Canada cause these markets really embraced her latest album. China not so much. And she had been there in 2013.

I agree. Remember also that Celine talked on the radio about wanting to come back to the UK to do some unplugged shows. I really think something would have happened this year if it wasn't for Rene's health, especially after she got such a great response during the SA Tour.


Maybe next year....

Edited by Timster, 30 May 2014 - 06:17 AM.

[celine4evauk]

God can you imagine! In the UK, a small venue, complete darkness, and then you hear Celine sing the chorus of TT acapella!!!!!
Nop, mustn't think these things.

[dj_a_rock]

I really hope this is true and she visits other countries in Asia. However, if this is true, how come tickets are still not available?

[Yentl Anchel]

I believe the original plan was an English language leg and a French language leg of the 2013 tour. But since LMBTL was postponed so many times the skipped the English language leg I think. Wouldn't it be cool if Céline would do like 3 or 4 weeks in the O2, with a show similar to the Vegas one, but then with all the hit songs she had in the EU. I think this would really work since fans from all over Europe can easily travel to Lodon and if you got a 3 or 4 week period of shows, fans can plan and even can go multiple times (as if we already wouldn't do that ) Maybe she is going to do a small EU tour next year, and visit countries like the UK, Ireland, Netherlands, Germany just the countries where LMBTL sold good. and maybe she can go to Belgium and France again. I would also love to see a concert in Quebec again.

I think we have to wait till the official news about this tour is on celinedion.com. Till then I will consider this still a rumour and not a fact.

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I agree. Remember also that Celine talked on the radio about wanting to come back to the UK to do some unplugged shows. I really think something would have happened this year if it wasn't for Rene's health, especially after she got such a great response during the SA Tour.T


Maybe next year....

[chocolatechip15]

Yentl Anchel, on 31 May 2014 - 05:29 AM, said:

I think we have to wait till the official news about this tour is on celinedion.com. Till then I will consider this still a rumour and not a fact.

Well, when it's on celinedion.com, or when Rene tells the news to Journal de Montreal, which always seems to get it first!

[Del]

LukeD, on 30 May 2014 - 06:09 AM, said:

If she goes for a mini-tour again she HAS to be in UK and Canada cause these markets really embraced her latest album. China not so much. And she had been there in 2013.

I agree that a mini-tour in the UK and Canada would be great.  I think there's a bigger possibility of it happening in the UK than Canada.  I vaguely remember something about she's exclusive to Caesar's for North American performances and has to get special permission to perform outside Caesar's in North America.  I can see French concert being no issues to approve in Quebec but they might see an English language concert take away ticket sales from the Vegas show.

[LukeD]

Del, on 31 May 2014 - 08:24 AM, said:

I agree that a mini-tour in the UK and Canada would be great.  I think there's a bigger possibility of it happening in the UK than Canada.  I vaguely remember something about she's exclusive to Caesar's for North American performances and has to get special permission to perform outside Caesar's in North America.  I can see French concert being no issues to approve in Quebec but they might see an English language concert take away ticket sales from the Vegas show.

Was it about North America or just United States? I don't remember... And well, if there is one market she SHOULD visit then this market is UK. She was treated like a Queen there!

[DionFanAlways]

LukeD, on 31 May 2014 - 08:41 AM, said:

Was it about North America or just United States? I don't remember... And well, if there is one market she SHOULD visit then this market is UK. She was treated like a Queen there!

I think it was North America. I remember (I think) they had to get special permission for Quebec??????

[Del]

DionFanAlways, on 31 May 2014 - 09:15 AM, said:

I think it was North America. I remember (I think) they had to get special permission for Quebec??????

That's what I remember reading last summer prior to the Quebec concert.

[CSCfan]

DionFanAlways, on 31 May 2014 - 09:15 AM, said:

I think it was North America. I remember (I think) they had to get special permission for Quebec??????

Yes "just" North America... she doesn't need permission to perform outside NA.
While we should def wait for official word (this by no means is official!), I think this rumour will very likely be true... I have a feeling we might be hearing more about this sometime (mid-June)..

[DionFanAlways]

CSCfan, on 31 May 2014 - 01:53 PM, said:

Yes "just" North America... she doesn't need permission to perform outside NA.
While we should def wait for official word (this by no means is official!), I think this rumour will very likely be true... I have a feeling we might be hearing more about this sometime (mid-June)..

Correct. However Quebec is in Canada and Canada is part of North America