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[Lolo88]

Hello everyone

I don't post very often (even if I check the forum each day hoping for some news).

But I'm currently listening to a Celine playlist on Spotify and it's clearly noticable her voice is changing from an album to another. So, I was wondering.. As hardocare fans, how would you describe the changes in her voice ?

For example, from the "Celine Dion" album to "The Colour of my Love" and "Falling into You", how would you describe each vocals ?
And from "S'il suffisait d'aimer" to "1 Fille & 4 Types", how would you say her voice is evoluting ?

Because listening to Celine each day since 1999 (the year I became a real FAN), it's obvious her voice is changing from an album to another. Texures, sounds, melismas.. Celine is a real vocal masterpiece and I would love to know how you feel those changes in her voice trough the years ? Although it is a very subjective thing, I am sure that many of us think the same about Céline’s vocal evolution.

Of course, you can post YouTube videos to illustrate your thoughts and opinions about certain songs.

I can't wait to read from all of you.


Logan

[PuraVida]

One big change seems to be that between FIY and LTAL/SSDA, she started using a lot more mixed voice for high belting. The first time in her career she started using that technique heavily, it seems to me. Evident in many songs, but "Be The Man" and "Just A Little Bit of Love" comes to mind. As well as "Sur le même bateau."

[ordinary fan]

A big change between "Celine Dion" and "The colour of my love" is obviously that she added some rasp in her voice which she never really did so heavy before. I'm talking about songs like Misled and lovin proof. Before it was just emotion or pushing her voice that made the rasp happening like in water from the moon or if you could see me now









It seems in TCOML era she did it on purpose as in the live performance of think twice at the world music awards 1995
or here

Edited by ordinary fan, 24 October 2022 - 09:20 AM.

[ryba]

I think a very noticeable change was between ANDHC (pure perfection, cristal clear, controlled) and Miracle (nasal, dry). I guess that her amount of Vegas performances in the dry environment caused it.

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ordinary fan, on 24 October 2022 - 09:15 AM, said:

A big change between "Celine Dion" and "The colour of my love" is obviously that she added some rasp in her voice which she never really did so heavy before. I'm talking about songs like Misled and lovin proof. Before it was just emotion or pushing her voice that made the rasp happening like in water from the moon or if you could see me now









It seems in TCOML era she did it on purpose as in the live performance of think twice at the world music awards 1995
or here

Yes, the change of her voice between Celine Dion and The Colour Of My Love is very notable. Even Celine said that in her book My Story,My Dream. TCOML is her Diva album. At that time The Vocal Trinity was born and she was in a league with Whitney and Mariah. Her voice was fuller and she could sing with a lot of nuances (deep and high notes).

[ScotieG]

For me the most noticeable change in English albums is between LMBTL and Courage - her voice is much raspier and husky, considerably. She still sounds bloody great though.

[Taking Chances]

I remember the biggest change that annoyed me for a long time was the change between One Heart (skipping Miracle) and Taking Chances. But it's got more to do with production than her voice. Gone were the reverb that blended her voice perfectly and instead we got drier more forward placed vocals. And it's been like that ever since.

[Dion my heart Barbra]

comingback, on 24 October 2022 - 10:06 AM, said:

At that time The Vocal Trinity was born and she was in a league with Whitney and Mariah.

Yes, Celine
The artist who finally toppled "One Sweet Day" ended up truly dominating 1996. Although Dion had already released a string of albums before Houston and Carey had set foot inside a recording studio, the Canadian only began making waves outside the Francophone market with 1990’s Unison. It would be another four years before she started being mentioned in the same breath. But by the end of her fourth English-language album’s campaign, Dion
https://www.grammy.c...celine-dion?amp

[Ukrfan]

Taking Chances, on 24 October 2022 - 07:32 PM, said:

I remember the biggest change that annoyed me for a long time was the change between One Heart (skipping Miracle) and Taking Chances. But it's got more to do with production than her voice. Gone were the reverb that blended her voice perfectly and instead we got drier more forward placed vocals. And it's been like that ever since.

These vocals suited TC, in my opinion. Gave it a more suitable rockish sound. But they should have changed to their normal production with LMBTL and Courage.

[garyhollander]

Ukrfan, on 26 October 2022 - 11:02 AM, said:

These vocals suited TC, in my opinion. Gave it a more suitable rockish sound. But they should have changed to their normal production with LMBTL and Courage.

Dont agree for courage cause some songs there are not suited for clean and polished vocals

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[Dion my heart Barbra]

Dion my heart Barbra, on 25 October 2022 - 10:45 AM, said:

Yes, Celine
The artist who finally toppled "One Sweet Day" ended up truly dominating 1996. Although Dion had already released a string of albums before Houston and Carey had set foot inside a recording studio, the Canadian only began making waves outside the Francophone market with 1990’s Unison. It would be another four years before she started being mentioned in the same breath. But by the end of her fourth English-language album’s campaign, Dion
https://www.grammy.c...celine-dion?amp

But by the end of her fourth English-language album’s campaign, Dion had become the new queen.

A true blockbuster of a record, Falling Into You reportedly shifted a colossal 32 million copies, placing it in the same bracket as The Beatles’ Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band and Eagles’ Hotel California. It spawned two No.1 hits: the slow-building theme to the Robert Redford/Michelle Pfeiffer romance Up Close and Personal, "Because You Loved Me," and the epic-from-the-get-go "It’s All Coming Back to Me Now." And it saw Dion recognized at every major award ceremony, including the Oscars, Golden Globes, and, most notably, the GRAMMYs.


Of course, Houston had previously shared the Album of the Year award for her contributions to The Bodyguard OST. However, Dion was the first of her peers to achieve the accolade entirely independently: despite some rather snooty predictions, Carey’s Daydream had failed to win the category, or indeed any of the five others it was nominated for, in 1996. Falling Into You, which was additionally crowned Best Pop Album at the same 1997 ceremony, even beat another Houston-heavy soundtrack, Waiting to Exhale, to the glittering prize.

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Dion my heart Barbra, on 27 October 2022 - 06:37 AM, said:

But by the end of her fourth English-language album’s campaign, Dion had become the new queen.

A true blockbuster of a record, Falling Into You reportedly shifted a colossal 32 million copies, placing it in the same bracket as The Beatles’ Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band and Eagles’ Hotel California. It spawned two No.1 hits: the slow-building theme to the Robert Redford/Michelle Pfeiffer romance Up Close and Personal, "Because You Loved Me," and the epic-from-the-get-go "It’s All Coming Back to Me Now." And it saw Dion recognized at every major award ceremony, including the Oscars, Golden Globes, and, most notably, the GRAMMYs.


Of course, Houston had previously shared the Album of the Year award for her contributions to The Bodyguard OST. However, Dion was the first of her peers to achieve the accolade entirely independently: despite some rather snooty predictions, Carey’s Daydream had failed to win the category, or indeed any of the five others it was nominated for, in 1996. Falling Into You, which was additionally crowned Best Pop Album at the same 1997 ceremony, even beat another Houston-heavy soundtrack, Waiting to Exhale, to the glittering prize.

I love this.

[LukeD]

Unison to Celine Dion she went from a thicker sound to a more polished one.

Falling Into You to Let's Talk About Love went from sharp/raspy to a warmer sound which she further developed in These Are Special Times - IMO her best album from a vocal standpoint.

One Heart to Miracle went from clear sound to sounding somewhat dry and nasal. Also dry and with a forward placement in Taking Chances.

Loved Me Back To Life introduced us to raspy/throat vocals even in soft verses, she went for the Adele sound/bedroom voice, arguably the worst decision of her entire career.

Courage was a step forward from LMTBL as she experimented with different textures/layers in her voice.

[Leo]

Her most noticeable and best vocal change was from TCOML to FIY. In French, from DCP to D'eux.

Her change for the worst was LMBTL to Courage. In French, SSDA to 1F&4T.

If a new album is to be released, her voice should sound polished and crystal clear. She is not a girl anymore, Barbra Streisand wouldn't do it at Celine's age, just listen to "Tell Him". So, no more forced nasalities and raspy sounds all the time. They should be placed strategically in certain parts as in the "away" in TPOL.

[CelinesDIVO5]

Leo, on 28 October 2022 - 07:52 PM, said:

Her most noticeable and best vocal change was from TCOML to FIY. In French, from DCP to D'eux.

Her change for the worst was LMBTL to Courage. In French, SSDA to 1F&4T.

If a new album is to be released, her voice should sound polished and crystal clear. She is not a girl anymore, Barbra Streisand wouldn't do it at Celine's age, just listen to "Tell Him". So, no more forced nasalities and raspy sounds all the time. They should be placed strategically in certain parts as in the "away" in TPOL.

1F4T is incredibly well done! She sounds phenomenal!!!

Tu nages
Le Vol D’un Ange
Contre Nature
Mon homme

Even De milliers de baissers when she comes in so powerfully.

[CelineDionFreak]

I think the perfect example of her vocal capabilities, even recently, is the EUS album. Yes LMBTL and Courage were in the raspy/bedroom voice kinda sound for some of the songs, but just look at EUS. Falls right in the middle of them and she sounded just perfect. Such powerful and beautiful vocals. Almost kind of took me back to the 90’s. Listened to the album yesterday and forgot how much I just adore it.

[Állex Sodi]

CelineDionFreak, on 29 October 2022 - 12:29 PM, said:

I think the perfect example of her vocal capabilities, even recently, is the EUS album. Yes LMBTL and Courage were in the raspy/bedroom voice kinda sound for some of the songs, but just look at EUS. Falls right in the middle of them and she sounded just perfect. Such powerful and beautiful vocals. Almost kind of took me back to the 90’s. Listened to the album yesterday and forgot how much I just adore it.

Yes, I love her voice on EUS and I can't understand why she can't sing like that in english. Sans Attendre is also better vocally than LMBTL.

Because of this differences in her voice between her anglophone and francophone career, I believe this overproduction and bedroom voice is actually her label's choice, not hers. They must think that makes her sound younger.

It does not, btw!

[Chantemoi]

CelinesDIVO5, on 28 October 2022 - 09:12 PM, said:

1F4T is incredibly well done! She sounds phenomenal!!!

Tu nages
Le Vol D’un Ange
Contre Nature
Mon homme

Even De milliers de baissers when she comes in so powerfully.

You forgot:
Je lui dirai
Ne bouge pas
Apprends-moi
Et je t’aime encore
Contre Nature …

While her voice had indeed changed considerably due to her age and her move to a desert climate, that was a phenomenal album start-to-finish—and one of her best in my opinion.

Edited by Chantemoi, 30 October 2022 - 01:09 AM.

[tomantha]

The change from SA to EUS and LMBTL to Courage was rough tbh.

Otherwise the vocal evolution always seemed fine to me. In the early days the changes were mostly due to production and genres. But today with all the techniques to correct vocals digitally, there's no excuse as to how rough some of the songs sound.

[ryba]

tomantha, on 30 October 2022 - 10:07 PM, said:

The change from SA to EUS and LMBTL to Courage was rough tbh.

Otherwise the vocal evolution always seemed fine to me. In the early days the changes were mostly due to production and genres. But today with all the techniques to correct vocals digitally, there's no excuse as to how rough some of the songs sound.

yes, SA has a very clear and controlled vocal delivery. On EUS some songs sound like she was singing them live.

[smw]

She also had some very strong vocal moments on EUS.

[CelinesDIVO5]

I actually wish we had also gotten English songs that sounded like “Ma faille,” “Tu sauras” and “L’etoile.”

[CelinesDIVO5]

Chantemoi, on 30 October 2022 - 01:05 AM, said:

You forgot:
Je lui dirai
Ne bouge pas
Apprends-moi
Et je t’aime encore
Contre Nature …

While her voice had indeed changed considerably due to her age and her move to a desert climate, that was a phenomenal album start-to-finish—and one of her best in my opinion.

She was only 34 at that point though. And she recorded the album in May of 03. Her voice hadn’t really been affected by Vegas until the following year, which you can absolutely hear on the AND…LILV album.

[Leo]

CelinesDIVO5, on 31 October 2022 - 11:22 AM, said:

She was only 34 at that point though. And she recorded the album in May of 03. Her voice hadn't really been affected by Vegas until the following year, which you can absolutely hear on the AND…LILV album.

I think AND... LILV is the audio of the DVD filmed in October 2003 but I can't say it for certain.

By the way, "Ain't Gonna Look The Other Way" is the first song where she used the raspy voice continually from start to finish. I never thought she would use it all the time 15 years later.

[actofcontrition]

Chantemoi, on 30 October 2022 - 01:05 AM, said:

You forgot:
Je lui dirai
Ne bouge pas
Apprends-moi
Et je t’aime encore
Contre Nature …

While her voice had indeed changed considerably due to her age and her move to a desert climate, that was a phenomenal album start-to-finish—and one of her best in my opinion.

And you both forgot Rien n’est vraiment fini oooh i LOVE this song so much!

[stone]

1F4T, she sounded strong in some songs when she recorded earlier on before the haircut. She released One Heart and promoted the album with the ugly yellowy butter blonde short haircut in 2003. So that tells me some songs were done in 2002, like Rien N’est Vraiment Fini. I think we see her 2002 long hair in some of the behind the scenes footage of Making The Album.

[Angel2006]

It's really interesting to me how Celine has a different singing style/sound when she's singing in French vs English. I remember seeing some interview on youtube before of Celine and JJG. In this interview, Celine explains that she sings a semi tone lower in French because the emotions are different or something like that. Does anyone have this interview? I would love to be able to see it again, particularly the part where Celine mentions about the vocal differences of singing in French vs English.

It might have been a French interview that was translated into English with subtitles, but I can't remember?

Edited by Angel2006, 30 November 2022 - 01:27 PM.

[actofcontrition]

Angel2006, on 30 November 2022 - 01:26 PM, said:

It's really interesting to me how Celine has a different singing style/sound when she's singing in French vs English. I remember seeing some interview on youtube before of Celine and JJG. In this interview, Celine explains that she sings a semi tone lower in French because the emotions are different or something like that. Does anyone have this interview? I would love to be able to see it again, particularly the part where Celine mentions about the vocal differences of singing in French vs English.

It might have been a French interview that was translated into English with subtitles, but I can't remember?

Its from « Un an avec Celine »

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=0ZtqP1Ca8YQ (At 32min)