What Celine missed

[unicorn]

Hi

I was heard today for the first time, Dreams to dream, that was offered to Celine, to sing it, but it was sing by Linda Rondstad finally, but why????Because Linda was "older" in the business world?Celine has better voice that she.

Take a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHABWqZPGBo

 

An American Tail: Fievel Goes West: (James Horner) A very good, although sometimes repetitious Horner/animated film score. Alone, it is a good effort, but compared to other scores that Horner has produced for animated children's films such as The Land Before Time, Balto, and, of course, the original American Tail, this score is only average. The score tracks excel over the songs, which , in some cases, are practically intolerable.

 

Horner does add a heavy Western twist to this score, which is something new for him. Some of it even sounds like the Goldsmith westerns of the 1960s, however the majority of it is a mutation of Horner's typical, classical style... Which isn't to say that it is not enjoyable! Some of the tracks are downright fun (albeit a bit loud). Tracks 3 and 12 have some creative use of percussion and rhythm. Only twice, in tracks 9 and 14, does Horner utilize his trademark children's/women's choir to add depth to the orchestra, and both of these cues are short.

 

In dramatic magic, this score falls well short of the original American Tail. There's nothing mysterious or powerful about this score. In these regards, it's much like the latter half of We're Back: A Dinosaurs Story. The original "Somewhere Out There" theme, a classic among the best of animated films, never appears at the forefront --which is very disappointing! Granted, Horner weaves it into the opening orchestral suite, and pieces of it are forced into subsequent tracks, but I believe that --as the title song of Fievel-- it should have been used in full a few times. Perhaps most disturbingly, Horner doesn't pay tribute to it at all during the finale of the score.

 

As for the songs, the title one, "Dreams to Dream," is a very good song. Linda Ronstadt, a veteran, replaced Horner's first choice of performer, Celine Dion, for the song because the producers of the film claimed that no one had ever heard of Dion --which could have been true for the time. Ronstadt performs the song well, however, and even though it wasn't received with the same open arms as "Somewhere Out There," it earned a Golden Globe nomination. The character's performance in track 7 is also enjoyable. The other two songs, at tracks 5 and 11, are a loud disgrace to the album, and break up the listening experience as a whole.

 

Overall, this score, although bright with Western personality and themes, falls a few steps behind the original American Tail. The song is very good, though, and the best moments of An American Tail: Fievel Goes West are those in which Horner combines his new themes with "Somewhere Out There." If a compilation was ever released combining the best score and song tracks from both albums, I'd be overjoyed.

 

source:http://www.filmtracks.com/titles/american_tail2.html

 

Please, cry with me:(((

[Bellamy]

This story is in almost every official bio of Celine.

[VinnyT.]

thanks but very old story

[krazy_kool_dude]

i downloaded the song a year ago when i was told Celine missed out on it to see what its like, i didn't like it though but now it's alright. I don't know what's worse Celine not getting it to be her song, or her recording it and not allowing us to hear it!

[nati]

Maybe she doesn't want us to hear it because she was so devastated that she wasn't chosen to sing. Because didn't Rene have to push her into singing Beauty and the Beast because Fievel happened shortly before beauty and the beast, and I remember hearing Celine was completely torn by the fact she wasn't chosen. Besides Celine has had many big hits in movies that no one else has. She's the diva of music soundtracks.

[Lawna]

Maybe she doesn't want us to hear it because she was so devastated that she wasn't chosen to sing.  Because didn't Rene have to push her into singing Beauty and the Beast because Fievel happened shortly before beauty and the beast, and I remember hearing Celine was completely torn by the fact she wasn't chosen.  Besides Celine has had many big hits in movies that no one else has.  She's the diva of music soundtracks.

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She was truly devestated, It's sad, but the suppossed reason the Speilberg went with Linda was because she sang the first theme song to the movie...Celine was crushed and I believe (if i remember correctly) that Rene had to convince her to record it, and also Celine watching the movie, persuaded her to record Beauty and the Beast. But i think everything happened for the best!! B&B fit Celine perfectly, beautiful children's movie (my fave as a kid!) and it also had french in it, and helped Celine to become a household name! (((and she won an award with Peabo)))

[ByuSmurf]

Speilberg obviously dropped the ball by NOT choosing Céline and got egg all over his face when Disney chose Celine to record B&tB which won NUMEROUS awards and helped her launched her English career!

Celine and Rene get the last laugh over a Speilberg rejection!!! LOL!!!

[celinefanonline]

i hope sonybmg will release the song though

[songbird]

The story was also featured in the VH1 documentary "Celine Dion - Driven" also known as "Behind the music". There's also some footage of her recording (no sound though) if I can remember correctly.

[firebird]

I always thought how Celine could make this a good song, adding a little bit more drama to it, because Linda Ronstadt interpretation is really boring in my opinion.

[WCD199317]

She was truly devestated, It's sad, but the suppossed reason the Speilberg went with Linda was because she sang the first theme song to the movie...Celine was crushed and I believe (if i remember correctly) that Rene had to convince her to record it, and also Celine watching the movie, persuaded her to record Beauty and the Beast. But i think everything happened for the best!! B&B fit Celine perfectly, beautiful children's movie (my fave as a kid!) and it also had french in it, and helped Celine to become a household name! (((and she won an award with Peabo)))

 

In fact, Linda Ronstadl refuse to recording this song originally, Universal contact Celine to record this song after to view the Juno performance. But the horror, Tommy Mottola refuse categorically to Celine recording this song for many months, arguing that it could hurt in the promotion of the album Unison album. But Motolla finally accepted only in summer, at the end of promotion of the album. After, few days later after the recording, Linda Ronstadl changed his idea and decided to recording this song. Speigberg, because then is the singer originally demands to recording the song, erase the Celine recording and decided to least Linda to recording this song. Celine has been devated by this new. The change has been the best thing: the movie and the song has been a huge flop.

Edited March 7, 2018 at 09:02 PM by WCD199317

[Bruno Portugal]

 

 

In fact, Linda Ronstadl refuse to recording this song originally, Universal contact Celine to record this song after to view the Juno performance. But the horror, Tommy Mottola refuse categorically to Celine recording this song for many months, arguing that it could hurt in the promotion of the album Unison album. But Motolla finally accepted only in summer, at the end of promotion of the album. After, few days later after the recording, Linda Ronstadl changed his idea and decided to recording this song. Speigberg, because then is the singer originally demands to recording the song, erase the Celine recording and decided to least Linda to recording this song. Celine has been devated by this new. The change has been the best thing: the movie and the song has been a huge flop.

 

And then Celine was invited to record the song Beauty & The Beast. Disney wanted a new artist so she wouldn't have been chosen if the other version had been released. Lucky Celine!

[celine4evauk]

 

 

In fact, Linda Ronstadl refuse to recording this song originally, Universal contact Celine to record this song after to view the Juno performance. But the horror, Tommy Mottola refuse categorically to Celine recording this song for many months, arguing that it could hurt in the promotion of the album Unison album. But Motolla finally accepted only in summer, at the end of promotion of the album. After, few days later after the recording, Linda Ronstadl changed his idea and decided to recording this song. Speigberg, because then is the singer originally demands to recording the song, erase the Celine recording and decided to least Linda to recording this song. Celine has been devated by this new. The change has been the best thing: the movie and the song has been a huge flop.

 

How would Dreams to Dream have hurt the Unison promo?? Don’t understand that considering the film didn’t come out until late ‘91, by which time all the singles from unison had been released. If that’s true, I honestly don’t understand what Mottola was thinking.

I’ve always thought it was purely the powers that be wanted Linda because she already had made her name in America, and had also sang on the first American Tail soundtrack.

[WCD199317]

How would Dreams to Dream have hurt the Unison promo?? Don't understand that considering the film didn't come out until late '91, by which time all the singles from unison had been released. If that's true, I honestly don't understand what Mottola was thinking.

I've always thought it was purely the powers that be wanted Linda because she already had made her name in America, and had also sang on the first American Tail soundtrack.

 

The info has been in the Celine biography official in 1997. At this time, when Celine has been calling to recording the song, this has been in march 1991, and Celine released the album in US at this time since only 6 months. Celine has been unknown in US, Celine just been achieve at this time his first hit with Where Does My Heart Beat Now.

 

 

And then Celine was invited to record the song Beauty & The Beast. Disney wanted a new artist so she wouldn't have been chosen if the other version had been released. Lucky Celine!

 

Yes, and originally, Celine refuse this song, because Celine has been devasted to not choice by Speingberg for Dreams to Dream. Celine accept only to recording the song after the test projection of the movie in Los Angeles. and the rest has been the history.

[jpatdeleon09]

Still... i want to hear Céline's version since they already recorded her version. It's such a waste of vocals of Céline if they will not at least release it...

[Davey84]

 

 

And then Celine was invited to record the song Beauty & The Beast. Disney wanted a new artist so she wouldn't have been chosen if the other version had been released. Lucky Celine!

 

And Disney choose Celine cos they didn't have much money left to get another big star (next to Peabo)

[celine4evauk]

 

 

The info has been in the Celine biography official in 1997. At this time, when Celine has been calling to recording the song, this has been in march 1991, and Celine released the album in US at this time since only 6 months. Celine has been unknown in US, Celine just been achieve at this time his first hit with Where Does My Heart Beat Now.

 

 

 

Yes, and originally, Celine refuse this song, because Celine has been devasted to not choice by Speingberg for Dreams to Dream. Celine accept only to recording the song after the test projection of the movie in Los Angeles. and the rest has been the history.

 

Lol long time since I’ve read that book!

 

Oh well BATB is far superior to Dreams To Dream, as is the film! 🤣

[jpatdeleon09]

 

 

Lol long time since I’ve read that book!

 

Oh well BATB is far superior to Dreams To Dream, as is the film! 🤣

 

True! But Dreams to dream is a great song too. I remember Céline singing this song back in 2007 recording sessions of TC (with a piano and a guy with tattoo)

[celine4evauk]

 

 

True! But Dreams to dream is a great song too. I remember Céline singing this song back in 2007 recording sessions of TC (with a piano and a guy with tattoo)

 

Did she? I don’t remember that bit! Gonna have to watch it again 😂

[Javito]

Did she? I don't remember that bit! Gonna have to watch it again

 

Maybe you watched that DVD in random bits too?

[celine4evauk]

 

 

Maybe you watched that DVD in random bits too?

 

Surprisingly I never do that with dvds! 🤣🤣 it’s just been a long time since I’ve watched it. Maybe a Celine marathon is due 😁

[Lolo88]

Wasn't the song "From This Moment On" by Shania Twain written for Celine in mind ? I think so... 😏

[celine4evauk]

Wasn't the song "From This Moment On" by Shania Twain written for Celine in mind ? I think so... 😏

 

I think when Shania and Mutt were thinking FTMO would be great for Celine during the early stages of writing it. That thought didn’t last lol

[jpatdeleon09]

 

 

Did she? I don’t remember that bit! Gonna have to watch it again 😂

 

I think it's part before doing the opera... i think the tattooed guy said "i want a céline dion tattoo", then céline answered by singing (dreams to dream).

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

I think it's part before doing the opera... i think the tattooed guy said "i want a céline dion tattoo", then céline answered by singing (dreams to dream).

 

 

Noooo, that was a different song she was singing. It's called "All I Have To Do Is Dream" by The Everly Brothers. It was released originally in 1958. Great song.

[CelineDionFreak]

Wasn't the song "From This Moment On" by Shania Twain written for Celine in mind ? I think so... 😏

Oooh. Interesting. I could really see that!

[jpatdeleon09]

 

 

 

Noooo, that was a different song she was singing. It's called "All I Have To Do Is Dream" by The Everly Brothers. It was released originally in 1958. Great song.

 

No, the song she sang was Dreams to dream

 

I lose my way (but change it to "hair") no one cares

(Then she said)

I got tattoo no one sees

My life it seems is a world of dream

 

 

Watch it again

Edited March 9, 2018 at 05:29 AM by jpatdeleon09

[jpatdeleon09]

 

 

 

Noooo, that was a different song she was singing. It's called "All I Have To Do Is Dream" by The Everly Brothers. It was released originally in 1958. Great song.

 

Here

 

It's Dreams to Dream not All I Have To Do is Dream

 

Edited March 9, 2018 at 05:26 AM by jpatdeleon09

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

Here

 

It's Dreams to Dream not All I Have To Do is Dream

 

 

 

My apologies, I'm thinking of another segment then.

[celine4evauk]

Bet he never did get that tattoo 😂