disadiva Posted April 10, 2006 at 08:33 AM Posted April 10, 2006 at 08:33 AM Hi ya´ll i was wondering about Celine´s voice and range i know it is very big but i´m not very good when it comes to vocalranges and types.I know she has a very rare Colouratura Soprano like Mariah but she has Lyric so she has a brighter upper register or what it is called. I have this same voice type as Celine but my vocalrange is 5 Octaves as my choir master say i can reach the 6 Octave or 7 but this is just numbers for me i don´t understand them.So can someone help me out and descripe what all this means. Thank you much dah-hlings. Quote http://i46.tinypic.com/2nvtcpl.jpg
maykonprincess Posted April 10, 2006 at 05:23 PM Posted April 10, 2006 at 05:23 PM When your a singer you have a lower register (chest voice), High register (head voice) and Whistle Voice (much higher notes). If taught properly, people can have both a good head voice and chest voice; but they need to learn how to use it. In "Fly", you can deffinately see Celine's vocal talent. The beginning of the song has a low E (below middle C), and a High A (below 'high C'). Celine's break (where her chest voice and head voice meet) is around E-F (below High C), but It could have dropped since she's getting much older. Octaves in general are from C to C... 8 notes. (it can be A.. A... but gernally speaking in a major scale, 8 notes make up the scale). I think what your choir master is refering to what we call "Mezzo Soprano". These are people who sing both high and low, and have a higher break. Quote
thevoice Posted April 10, 2006 at 05:42 PM Posted April 10, 2006 at 05:42 PM i'm not a vocalist and i cant answer you with numbers and stuff but celine's range is not too wide , the thing about her is the power that she has in her voice . her notes r powerful , very powerful - not alot of singers can hit those notes with so much power and control yet there r alot of singers with much more range. Quote
disadiva Posted April 10, 2006 at 06:10 PM Author Posted April 10, 2006 at 06:10 PM When your a singer you have a lower register (chest voice), High register (head voice) and Whistle Voice (much higher notes). If taught properly, people can have both a good head voice and chest voice; but they need to learn how to use it. In "Fly", you can deffinately see Celine's vocal talent. The beginning of the song has a low E (below middle C), and a High A (below 'high C'). Celine's break (where her chest voice and head voice meet) is around E-F (below High C), but It could have dropped since she's getting much older. Octaves in general are from C to C... 8 notes. (it can be A.. A... but gernally speaking in a major scale, 8 notes make up the scale). I think what your choir master is refering to what we call "Mezzo Soprano". These are people who sing both high and low, and have a higher break.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thank you for the info so Celine has a Mezzo Soprano not Coluratura what is the diffirence can she whistle like a bird... i´m just so curious to know .. Love ya much. thanx Quote http://i46.tinypic.com/2nvtcpl.jpg
Dreamer Posted April 10, 2006 at 06:19 PM Posted April 10, 2006 at 06:19 PM When your a singer you have a lower register (chest voice), High register (head voice) and Whistle Voice (much higher notes). If taught properly, people can have both a good head voice and chest voice; but they need to learn how to use it. In "Fly", you can deffinately see Celine's vocal talent. The beginning of the song has a low E (below middle C), and a High A (below 'high C'). Celine's break (where her chest voice and head voice meet) is around E-F (below High C), but It could have dropped since she's getting much older. Octaves in general are from C to C... 8 notes. (it can be A.. A... but gernally speaking in a major scale, 8 notes make up the scale). I think what your choir master is refering to what we call "Mezzo Soprano". These are people who sing both high and low, and have a higher break.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thank you for the info so Celine has a Mezzo Soprano not Coluratura what is the diffirence can she whistle like a bird... i´m just so curious to know .. Love ya much. thanx <{POST_SNAPBACK}> lol Celine can sing the same high notes as a soprano. The difference is that she can sing lower notes too, but she is not a mezzo soprano. Mezzo soprano means she cannot go so high, what Celine definitely can do!!! Quote A new day has comehttp://sp0.fotologs.net/photo/16/42/116/celinepoderosa/1197867090_f.jpg
maykonprincess Posted April 10, 2006 at 09:13 PM Posted April 10, 2006 at 09:13 PM Celine's a mezzo soprano. it states it in her Authorized Biography. I also think i heard her say it once in an interview. A real soprano is better at singing higher notes, and has a harder time reaching the lower notes. An Alto has a better time singing the lower notes and a harder time reaching the high notes. A mezzo can sing a good portion of both. Quote
george Posted April 10, 2006 at 09:29 PM Posted April 10, 2006 at 09:29 PM I know from my vocal instructor that Celine is a soprano not a mezzo and you can find that out since she can sing up to F...mezzo's can hardly reach up to C or D.... Quote
thevoice Posted April 10, 2006 at 09:38 PM Posted April 10, 2006 at 09:38 PM I know from my vocal instructor that Celine is a soprano not a mezzo and you can find that out since she can sing up to F...mezzo's can hardly reach up to C or D....<{POST_SNAPBACK}> i think it doesnt really matter and it doesnt say a thing whether she is soprano mezzo or all the other weird words that i read here...what's important is that she is the best singer in the world Quote
Dreamer Posted April 11, 2006 at 12:09 AM Posted April 11, 2006 at 12:09 AM Celine's a mezzo soprano. it states it in her Authorized Biography. I also think i heard her say it once in an interview. A real soprano is better at singing higher notes, and has a harder time reaching the lower notes. An Alto has a better time singing the lower notes and a harder time reaching the high notes. A mezzo can sing a good portion of both.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> I understand you point. Mezzo can sing higher and lower notes, but a mezzo cannot sing notes so high like Celine sings. That's true that a soprano singer do not necessary sings lower notes. But when a singer can go through high notes, they are classified like soprano, it doesn't matter if they can or cannot sing lower notes. I also ready somewhere, Celine saying she is a soprano. But if you say it's written in her biography, so I don't know what to think Quote A new day has comehttp://sp0.fotologs.net/photo/16/42/116/celinepoderosa/1197867090_f.jpg
LonelyRoad Posted April 11, 2006 at 12:47 AM Posted April 11, 2006 at 12:47 AM I think it's odd it says in her book that she is a mezzo soprano. I woud think that Celine would have to be a soprano. I know mezzo soprano singers (been in choirs a long time) and I always thought that was the term used for a solo alto. Celine is no alto!! I know that an alto could never sing My Heart Wil Go On. So I guess it's the mezzo soprano phrase that's throwing us off. Quote March 26, 2006 The Colosseum - Las Vegas, NevadaMay 16, 2007 The Colosseum - Las Vegas, Nevada
Célinefull Posted April 11, 2006 at 09:04 AM Posted April 11, 2006 at 09:04 AM i'm not a vocalist and i cant answer you with numbers and stuff but celine's range is not too wide , the thing about her is the power that she has in her voice . her notes r powerful , very powerful - not alot of singers can hit those notes with so much power and control yet there r alot of singers with much more range.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Exactly! It's the immense power that she has in her voice that makes her such an unique singer. Quote http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/7108/ziegfieldgirlbanner.jpg
Krys Posted April 11, 2006 at 09:09 AM Posted April 11, 2006 at 09:09 AM the power just blows ya mind off Quote
disadiva Posted April 11, 2006 at 09:32 AM Author Posted April 11, 2006 at 09:32 AM the power just blows ya mind off <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi ya´ll I started this topic and i wan´t to say to all of you Celine isn´t a Mezzo at all she thought she was because she is able to sing in lower register but not that low as alto but on the Miracle album you can hear her uniqness and soft in her voice that is so bright alto hasn´t bright sounds. What Celine has is definely soprano but much brighter soprano than Mariah Carey has Mariah is able to sing in the alto range up to Coluratura Soprano that means she has dramatic Colouratura and 5 Octave range. Celine has Lyric Coluratura Soprano because she has this flagolet sound in her voice and she can Whistle if you listen closely you can definely hear soft whisteling sounds in the background etc: Naked, Fly,and in her french songs. She doesn´t use the whisteling sound as Mariah does because she takes more care of her voice than Mariah does it is said that Whisteling to much destroys your vocalchords and Celine doesn´t wan´t that so she sings in her chest range and she makes those incredible vibrato that no one can emulate. Celine has a Lyric Coluratura Soprano and what that means she has an 6 octave range and she uses only 4 octaves,,, she doesn´t have to proof anything to me or her fans like David Foster said Celine has a rare voice so rare that comes ones in 100 years. Quote http://i46.tinypic.com/2nvtcpl.jpg
mattia Posted April 11, 2006 at 09:37 AM Posted April 11, 2006 at 09:37 AM well it's not just up to her power... her voice is really high and, since i've been talking about it too with my singing teacher i'm kinda sure she's a soprano...tho the biography sais something else.... Quote
ginossi Posted April 12, 2006 at 04:40 PM Posted April 12, 2006 at 04:40 PM (edited) Hello. I've read all the stuff you wrote and I thought I should give you guys my opinion. I'm an opera singer, a tenor, so I know about singing.I read somewhere in this topic that Celine does the whistling sounds in songs like Fly but she doesn't use them as much as Mariah. I'm sorry, that's wrong all over the place, it's just an effect, Celine cannot hit those notes neither can Mariah in the present, Mariah's lost her voice complete, she lip-synch every performance, she's a fraud and I'm a huge fan of Mariah.Celine is MEZZO SOPRANO. Sopranos CANNOT hit the low notes, at least not as low as Celine goes. Contra-alto, means the lowest voice in the woman, Mezzo is the middle register, soprano being the highest.Mezzo's can go either high or low, to a certain point, of course. Anyway, Celine also uses falsetto in some high notes, some people can't tell but it's true. It's easier to tell when men fake notes using falsetto, in the women it's harder. So in some cases, NOT EVERY, in some cases, she'll hit a high note using falsetto, which is easier than hitting the real note with the real voice. I don't wish to complicate you guys with this, 'cause it's tricky.I was so glad to read the part about her voice power. EXACTLY!!!, wether she can go high or low, it's the power in her voice which blows you away, yet you're missing the most important and distinctive feature about Celine's voice, something every artist must hace in order to make it...Emotions, even if you're not seeing Celine, you can feel the hurt in her voice, the sadness, the happiness, she has the amazing ability to transmit any kind of emotion to the public, that is the power of Celine Dion. Singers like Mariah, they're too cold when they sing, sure they hit the notes but there's no emotion but when Celine sings, you cry, you get goose bumps. That is what every singer or artist should aim for, TOUCH THE PUBLIC. Thank you guys.Gonzalo from Argentina. Edited April 12, 2006 at 04:41 PM by ginossi Quote
disadiva Posted April 12, 2006 at 06:16 PM Author Posted April 12, 2006 at 06:16 PM Hello. I've read all the stuff you wrote and I thought I should give you guys my opinion. I'm an opera singer, a tenor, so I know about singing.I read somewhere in this topic that Celine does the whistling sounds in songs like Fly but she doesn't use them as much as Mariah. I'm sorry, that's wrong all over the place, it's just an effect, Celine cannot hit those notes neither can Mariah in the present, Mariah's lost her voice complete, she lip-synch every performance, she's a fraud and I'm a huge fan of Mariah.Celine is MEZZO SOPRANO. Sopranos CANNOT hit the low notes, at least not as low as Celine goes. Contra-alto, means the lowest voice in the woman, Mezzo is the middle register, soprano being the highest.Mezzo's can go either high or low, to a certain point, of course. Anyway, Celine also uses falsetto in some high notes, some people can't tell but it's true. It's easier to tell when men fake notes using falsetto, in the women it's harder. So in some cases, NOT EVERY, in some cases, she'll hit a high note using falsetto, which is easier than hitting the real note with the real voice. I don't wish to complicate you guys with this, 'cause it's tricky.I was so glad to read the part about her voice power. EXACTLY!!!, wether she can go high or low, it's the power in her voice which blows you away, yet you're missing the most important and distinctive feature about Celine's voice, something every artist must hace in order to make it...Emotions, even if you're not seeing Celine, you can feel the hurt in her voice, the sadness, the happiness, she has the amazing ability to transmit any kind of emotion to the public, that is the power of Celine Dion. Singers like Mariah, they're too cold when they sing, sure they hit the notes but there's no emotion but when Celine sings, you cry, you get goose bumps. That is what every singer or artist should aim for, TOUCH THE PUBLIC. Thank you guys.Gonzalo from Argentina.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thank you for the info Gonzalo and this was very helpful but i don´t think Celine is a Mezzo but we all have our onpinion on that so i won´t argue about it but you are right about her she really touches the people were ever she goes and she has extremly powerful voice that infects us and gives us goosebumbs.. I Love her she is an artist made by GOD. Quote http://i46.tinypic.com/2nvtcpl.jpg
LonelyRoad Posted April 12, 2006 at 09:17 PM Posted April 12, 2006 at 09:17 PM (edited) lol...no one has a 5 octave range let alone a 6 octave range. Edited April 12, 2006 at 09:18 PM by LonelyRoad Quote March 26, 2006 The Colosseum - Las Vegas, NevadaMay 16, 2007 The Colosseum - Las Vegas, Nevada
Krys Posted April 13, 2006 at 12:44 PM Posted April 13, 2006 at 12:44 PM (edited) LonelyRoad, they are not talking about chest voice only. its a combination of everything that makes up 5 or 6 octaves Edited April 13, 2006 at 12:45 PM by lamourpourCeline Quote
Cambroneroj Posted April 13, 2006 at 01:20 PM Posted April 13, 2006 at 01:20 PM Mezzo soprano, Soprano,contra alto DOES NOT MATTER!!! Her voice is unique and rare, She is simply the best, better then the rest. WHO IN THE WORLD HAS DONE AS GOOD AS SHE HAS? i dont think what her voice is matters at this point. Quote
Dreamer Posted April 13, 2006 at 01:32 PM Posted April 13, 2006 at 01:32 PM Hello. I've read all the stuff you wrote and I thought I should give you guys my opinion. I'm an opera singer, a tenor, so I know about singing.I read somewhere in this topic that Celine does the whistling sounds in songs like Fly but she doesn't use them as much as Mariah. I'm sorry, that's wrong all over the place, it's just an effect, Celine cannot hit those notes neither can Mariah in the present, Mariah's lost her voice complete, she lip-synch every performance, she's a fraud and I'm a huge fan of Mariah.Celine is MEZZO SOPRANO. Sopranos CANNOT hit the low notes, at least not as low as Celine goes. Contra-alto, means the lowest voice in the woman, Mezzo is the middle register, soprano being the highest.Mezzo's can go either high or low, to a certain point, of course. Anyway, Celine also uses falsetto in some high notes, some people can't tell but it's true. It's easier to tell when men fake notes using falsetto, in the women it's harder. So in some cases, NOT EVERY, in some cases, she'll hit a high note using falsetto, which is easier than hitting the real note with the real voice. I don't wish to complicate you guys with this, 'cause it's tricky.I was so glad to read the part about her voice power. EXACTLY!!!, wether she can go high or low, it's the power in her voice which blows you away, yet you're missing the most important and distinctive feature about Celine's voice, something every artist must hace in order to make it...Emotions, even if you're not seeing Celine, you can feel the hurt in her voice, the sadness, the happiness, she has the amazing ability to transmit any kind of emotion to the public, that is the power of Celine Dion. Singers like Mariah, they're too cold when they sing, sure they hit the notes but there's no emotion but when Celine sings, you cry, you get goose bumps. That is what every singer or artist should aim for, TOUCH THE PUBLIC. Thank you guys.Gonzalo from Argentina.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> I thought a mezzo could not sing as high as Celine does Do you know what is the extension of a mezzo?? Quote A new day has comehttp://sp0.fotologs.net/photo/16/42/116/celinepoderosa/1197867090_f.jpg
maykonprincess Posted April 13, 2006 at 01:52 PM Posted April 13, 2006 at 01:52 PM (edited) I have confirmed what I told you guys earlier. Mezzo Soprano's range is usually from C3 - B-B5. Deffinately, celine fits into this category. The site below also gives a bunch of details about vocal ranges. Also check out intimate portrait. Celine says she's a mezzo soprano in there. Enjoy Here is a quote I got from "Vocal Types": Mezzo Soprano (Middle female voice; Ranges from C3 to B-b5)Timbre: Soulful and dark.Dramatic: C3 to C6 (Whitney Houston)Lyric: same as above but lighter (Celine Dion) http://bellsouthpwp.net/h/a/hamidmahdi/Dow.../VOICETYPES.htm Edited April 13, 2006 at 02:12 PM by maykonprincess Quote
lnde3 Posted April 13, 2006 at 01:52 PM Posted April 13, 2006 at 01:52 PM Thank you Gonzalo for your explanation, I found it very very interesting but most of all so true ! Emotions are the main element in Celine's voice. You don't need to have a powerful voice to carry emotions, but she is lucky and have both sensibility and power, what a diva Quote
Bellamy Posted April 13, 2006 at 02:14 PM Posted April 13, 2006 at 02:14 PM http://bellsouthpwp.net/h/a/hamidmahdi/Dow.../VOICETYPES.htm<{POST_SNAPBACK}>This is a lamb's website. the infomation from there are not useful to me. He claims Whitney and Celine have 3 octaves range only, while Mariah and himself have 5 octaves range. Quote Please support the forum by ordering everything through our special Amazon.com link Click here. Thank you!
Dreamer Posted April 15, 2006 at 04:35 PM Posted April 15, 2006 at 04:35 PM I have confirmed what I told you guys earlier. Mezzo Soprano's range is usually from C3 - B-B5. Deffinately, celine fits into this category. The site below also gives a bunch of details about vocal ranges. Also check out intimate portrait. Celine says she's a mezzo soprano in there. Enjoy Here is a quote I got from "Vocal Types": Mezzo Soprano (Middle female voice; Ranges from C3 to B-b5)Timbre: Soulful and dark.Dramatic: C3 to C6 (Whitney Houston)Lyric: same as above but lighter (Celine Dion) http://bellsouthpwp.net/h/a/hamidmahdi/Dow.../VOICETYPES.htm<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Celine can go lower then the C3 Quote A new day has comehttp://sp0.fotologs.net/photo/16/42/116/celinepoderosa/1197867090_f.jpg
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