RRphantom Posted February 12, 2006 at 03:05 AM Posted February 12, 2006 at 03:05 AM Just right yesterday,I checked The Billboard 200,and I found that Andrea Bocelli Amore is in third position this week!!! What comes to my mind is that why Celine's French albums always sell in a very bad condition in the US?I don't think American prefer Italian Songs(from Andrea Bocelli ) than French ones(from Celine Dion). (What's more,Andrea Bocelli's popularity in the US is attributable to Celine's These Are Special Times CBS special)What make their sellings different would be PROMOTION. What's your opinion?I think we should ask SonyBMG to do more promotions in the future. Quote
Célinefull Posted February 12, 2006 at 03:44 AM Posted February 12, 2006 at 03:44 AM It's odd, and I ask myself this question all the time, why isn't French music more popular in North America? They have Spanish, they have Italian etc. but never French! Which is crazy because the USA and especially Canada has so much Frenchness! Why are French & English Canada so different? Quote http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/7108/ziegfieldgirlbanner.jpg
Bellamy Posted February 12, 2006 at 04:39 AM Posted February 12, 2006 at 04:39 AM USA hate French. that's the main reason. Also Andrea's album is considered as kind of classical album, which is always in Italian. Quote Please support the forum by ordering everything through our special Amazon.com link Click here. Thank you!
Célinefull Posted February 12, 2006 at 05:38 AM Posted February 12, 2006 at 05:38 AM ^Exactly, I just wasn't going to say it...American people hate French people, why, I do not know, but they do, and I can't ever see a French album by anyone reaching the top of the American charts. Quote http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/7108/ziegfieldgirlbanner.jpg
RONIN Posted February 12, 2006 at 06:33 AM Posted February 12, 2006 at 06:33 AM & the bad relationship inside between theese two goverments made this situation most Quote http://www.celinechannel.com/images/banner.gif
Bellamy Posted February 12, 2006 at 06:37 AM Posted February 12, 2006 at 06:37 AM So the conclusion is promo French albums in the USA is just wasting money. SONY is 100% right at not promo French albums in the USA. And better not let the public of the USA hate Celine cause of she's French-Canadian. Quote Please support the forum by ordering everything through our special Amazon.com link Click here. Thank you!
Ania4 Posted February 12, 2006 at 09:27 AM Posted February 12, 2006 at 09:27 AM I think American people don't know what is good. French music is really really good. Quote
Célinefull Posted February 12, 2006 at 09:54 AM Posted February 12, 2006 at 09:54 AM So the conclusion is promo French albums in the USA is just wasting money. SONY is 100% right at not promo French albums in the USA. And better not let the public of the USA hate Celine cause of she's French-Canadian.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Exactly..and after the Hurricaine Katrina thingo she was going well. Quote http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/7108/ziegfieldgirlbanner.jpg
charmedceline Posted February 15, 2006 at 11:34 AM Posted February 15, 2006 at 11:34 AM It's not only in the US that Céline's french albums are not very high in the charts. That's the same in Germany. Italian and Spanish music is here as popular as English, but French music is almost never in the charts (only when Céline releases a French album , but then not in a very good charts position). I know only of one French single that was released in Germay and that was Tout l'or des hommes and this single was limited and never played on the radio. Quote
Etpuisunjour Posted March 9, 2006 at 12:53 AM Posted March 9, 2006 at 12:53 AM (edited) I think American people don't know what is good. French music is really really good.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> You know, I'm really taking offense at all of this. I am American and I've always loved the French language. In fact, I've been saying to my family how happy I am that they gave me a choice of French when I was in high school. Because now it's a requirement to take Spanish in middle school, and is *strongly* encouraged for high school. When I went to high school, the teachers didn't care what language I studied. And furthermore, I have absolutely nothing against the France or anyone from France. I don't take the opinions of a few people and hold them against the whole country. If there's a reason I as an American should be upset with France, I don't know about it and frankly don't care. So please stop lumping all Americans in together in your post. And this post I'm replying to is by a moderator! And you're complaining that I don't post enough in the discussions section? Why should I when no one wants to hear what the *French-hating* Americans have to say? Edit: The reason that I actually went into this thread was to say how much it irritated me that they don't give her French albums any promotion or radio play here. I was thrilled that "I Believe In You" had French in it. It's actually the first time I can remember hearing any partially French song on the radio here in my life. Edited March 9, 2006 at 12:57 AM by Etpuisunjour Quote "The only power I have - the only power any of us have - is to be who we are." Jacen Solo, "Traitor"
Bellamy Posted March 9, 2006 at 01:20 AM Posted March 9, 2006 at 01:20 AM We're speaking of the general American people hate French culture, including French music. I think you know it's true. Of course we're not talking about the fans of Celine Dion. Quote Please support the forum by ordering everything through our special Amazon.com link Click here. Thank you!
Etpuisunjour Posted March 9, 2006 at 02:05 AM Posted March 9, 2006 at 02:05 AM We're speaking of the general American people hate French culture, including French music. I think you know it's true. Of course we're not talking about the fans of Celine Dion.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> If I *knew* it was true, I wouldn't have said anything to the contrary. But I believe I said If there's a reason I as an American should be upset with France, I don't know about it and frankly don't care.. I don't read, watch, or listen to the news if I can manage it, so I really don't know why "general" Americans would hate France. Last thing I knew, France was an ally of ours. At least I think they're in NATO, which means they should be an ally. Or maybe it's the United Nations. If you think I'm kidding, I'm really not. If you want to know happened in the last 10 years of Star Wars books, I'm your person. For current events, you're on your own. And I really need to be getting back to my movie now, so good night. Quote "The only power I have - the only power any of us have - is to be who we are." Jacen Solo, "Traitor"
celinefanonline Posted March 9, 2006 at 02:14 AM Posted March 9, 2006 at 02:14 AM well they should promote morelike maybe get Celine on tv and then sing french songs haha Quote Courage don't you dare fail me now!
Koolan Posted March 9, 2006 at 02:34 AM Posted March 9, 2006 at 02:34 AM Celine sung PQTME on some US show many years ago. Etpuisunjour, I sent you a PM about your email address http://www.celinedionforum.com/index.php?act=Msg&CODE=01 Quote Please support the forum by ordering through our Amazon.com referral link below. Click here to go to the Amazon homepage.
Bellamy Posted March 9, 2006 at 02:46 AM Posted March 9, 2006 at 02:46 AM If I *knew* it was true, I wouldn't have said anything to the contrary. But I believe I said <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Try do a search of "boycott france" or "boycott french" on google. Quote Please support the forum by ordering everything through our special Amazon.com link Click here. Thank you!
RRphantom Posted March 9, 2006 at 02:30 PM Author Posted March 9, 2006 at 02:30 PM If I *knew* it was true, I wouldn't have said anything to the contrary. But I believe I said <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Try do a search of "boycott france" or "boycott french" on google.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>But there are still many French live in Memphis,Tennessee(I think so)........And Celine even sang the song"S'Il Suffisait D'Aimer" in Let's Talk About Love tour....I don't think Americans really hate French music (even though they France) Quote
VanMerlin Posted March 9, 2006 at 05:02 PM Posted March 9, 2006 at 05:02 PM There is still a huge French influence in the Southern states of America...they have cajun music for crying out loud. Let's face it...Celine's French music simply doesn't have the sound that attracts American listeners. They love the beat of the Latin music, they love the romance of the Operatic Italian singers, but Celine's French music? What's so special about it that Americans would be drawn to? They don't care for it because it doesn't fit into their liking, not because it's in French or because they hate the French or because of Government policy or the Iraq war. Celine's French music simply doesn't fit on their radios, on their Billboard charts...not with their music scene the way it now or the way it has always been. There just isn't a market for it there. If her French music was Hip Hop, it may very well have had a chance! Quote
Etpuisunjour Posted March 10, 2006 at 12:03 AM Posted March 10, 2006 at 12:03 AM If I *knew* it was true, I wouldn't have said anything to the contrary. But I believe I said <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Try do a search of "boycott france" or "boycott french" on google.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> NOOOOOO!!! Ignorance is bliss. I'm blissfully happy in my ignorance. Okay, this was a really sore subject for me, because it seems like every time I hear something about how all Americans are, it's not something anyone I know is like. But if everyone around is saying so, there must be some truth in it. So allow me to apologize if I annoyed anybody. Peace! Quote "The only power I have - the only power any of us have - is to be who we are." Jacen Solo, "Traitor"
suffisait2004 Posted March 10, 2006 at 06:04 AM Posted March 10, 2006 at 06:04 AM maybe its the french people's attitude towards the worldthey may be too critical to others,esp. amercians Quote http://i718.photobucket.com/albums/ww187/suffisait/1.jpg
Célinefull Posted March 10, 2006 at 07:08 AM Posted March 10, 2006 at 07:08 AM maybe its the french people's attitude towards the worldthey may be too critical to others,esp. amercians<{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't think that French people asked for the way that Americans think of them...Lady Liberty was a gift people Quote http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/7108/ziegfieldgirlbanner.jpg
Célinefull Posted March 10, 2006 at 07:16 AM Posted March 10, 2006 at 07:16 AM No other national or ethnic group appears to get the same continually negative treatment in print media reserved for France and the French, with the possible exception of Arabs or Palestinians, and even there, the treatment is not so much cultural as political, linked to a specific context or event.If one were to substitute, for example, "Mexican" or "Japanese" or "Indian" for "French", what would reader reaction be?". - Edward C.Knox, The New York Times Looks at France, The French Review, N°6, Vol.75, May 2002 Quote http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/7108/ziegfieldgirlbanner.jpg
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