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Courage World Tour - EU shows CANCELEDremainder North America leg + EU shows canceled. (Update 26-05-23)


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View PostHolborn, on 25 October 2019 - 09:51 AM, said:

but a few changes here and there have to be made regardless.

Amen to that

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View PostHolborn, on 25 October 2019 - 08:59 AM, said:



Yeah but still is a bit unfair. I mean it's very unfair for the people that have been following her since forever, i get that. Personally i'm not that mad about the list nor with the medley, she is fantastic during the medley, but there are some songs that can go away and never return (BATB, TLYM, Kiss) and be replaced by some non "LV/tour 2018" songs. She can easily please the people that couldn't go to Vegas (although there are hundreds of videos online) and the die hard fans who' ve watched this show also hundreds of times.

If they change just 3 of these songs, any 3 songs that she has sung 1-2k times, people here will be way happier. She doesn't even have to bring extra rare songs, she has so many hits that casuals know, like TC, ANDHC, IS, EOM, IDAN etc, and wouldn't be disappointed to see. I won't talk about You're the voice since obviously that's something she loves and it seems to work very well, but i'm sure that there are songs that she can't stand singing but are still in the list. Just change those with other hits. I just hope The Prayer and TLBSEPT stay in and not be replaced by a new album song and PQTME.

People also need to remember that she has now gone from a 4000 seat theater, that was filled with more gambler comps than general fans; to touring 30-50-60,000 seat arenas. Hometown, general public and casual fans are going for those songs. Also, Celine has only had 4 number 1 hits in the US. She can’t not sing them, with the exception of “I’m Your Angel” which she will most likely never perform again due to the R. Kelly connection.

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I had not realized that the musicians are also lifted on platforms and that the main screen was the thing hiding the musicians in the back. I guess Yves was not lying when he said that there are a lot of things on stage that move:

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Damn... the stage their looks tiny compared to how it looked in QC and Ottawa

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View PostCelinesDIVO5, on 25 October 2019 - 10:58 AM, said:



People also need to remember that she has now gone from a 4000 seat theater, that was filled with more gambler comps than general fans; to touring 30-50-60,000 seat arenas. Hometown, general public and casual fans are going for those songs. Also, Celine has only had 4 number 1 hits in the US. She can’t not sing them, with the exception of “I’m Your Angel” which she will most likely never perform again due to the R. Kelly connection.

Exactly. She will sing her number one singles and then she should move on to other “fan favorites”. ANDHC being one of the songs that people automatically know from Celine and also IDAN ( diehard fan or not people know those)

LOVE CAN MOVE MOUNTAINS, RIVER DEEP, YOU’RE THE VOICE, LETS DANCE, ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST, LADY MARMALADE, TO LOVE YOU MORE and even THE PRAYER all could go away in place for other songs and almost nobody would miss them ( fan or not)

I was at the Cleveland show and enjoyed it, however it would a lie for me to say the setlist is at the best it could be. Now the setlist really doesn’t need that much work 4-5 Changes could easily take this setlist to another level. Removing some of the above songs and replacing them with some hits like IDAN and ANDHC, and a couple new songs like “Imperfections” could make all the difference.

Edited by Nmj, 25 October 2019 - 11:35 AM.


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I honestly don't think we're going to get many more songs once the album comes out. Those of you insistent that the setlist is changing are setting yourselves up for disappointment. I predict two max with fomo being one. And what songs will it replace? It isn't going go be YTV...lcmm and batb are really the only fillers and i don't see them going either. They removed the reason for no replacement, so perhaps they just add the two new songs, but I can't see anything else being removed to make room for 6 new songs or anything like that. The crowd eats up the hits (be it celine's hit or someone elses). Sadly anymore than four new songs is overkill to the audience she is catering too.

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View PostTyler1991, on 25 October 2019 - 11:43 AM, said:

I honestly don't think we're going to get many more songs once the album comes out. Those of you insistent that the setlist is changing are setting yourselves up for disappointment. I predict two max with fomo being one. And what songs will it replace? It isn't going go be YTV...lcmm and batb are really the only fillers and i don't see them going either. They removed the reason for no replacement, so perhaps they just add the two new songs, but I can't see anything else being removed to make room for 6 new songs or anything like that. The crowd eats up the hits (be it celine's hit or someone elses). Sadly anymore than four new songs is overkill to the audience she is catering too.

HER hits we don’t have a problem with ( even tho I’ve been over BATB for years now lol ) I understand why she does them, it makes perfect sense...: however, there is plenty in the setlist besides the “hits” that are and should be interchangeable...........

“The Prayer” could go
“To Love You More” could go
“Love Can Move Mountains” could go
“You’re the Voice” could go
The entire medley could go

Those aren’t dealbreakers.

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View PostTyler1991, on 25 October 2019 - 11:43 AM, said:

I honestly don't think we're going to get many more songs once the album comes out. Those of you insistent that the setlist is changing are setting yourselves up for disappointment. I predict two max with fomo being one. And what songs will it replace? It isn't going go be YTV...lcmm and batb are really the only fillers and i don't see them going either. They removed the reason for no replacement, so perhaps they just add the two new songs, but I can't see anything else being removed to make room for 6 new songs or anything like that. The crowd eats up the hits (be it celine's hit or someone elses). Sadly anymore than four new songs is overkill to the audience she is catering too.

I agree. I don't expect more than 3 songs from the new album. I'd be very surprised with four.

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I’m expecting at least 4 songs off the album once it’s released. That might be wishful thinking on my part. But she did 6 for TCWT and, while I don’t expect 6, I really do think she’ll at least do 4. Especially if there are new uptempo songs she can add. (Although, she ain’t doing FOMO which I don’t understand at all. Imperfections I get. I don’t see that translate well on stage. It’s more mid-tempo with really repetitive lyrics.)

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I'm thrilled that the audiences are eating up this show!!

I imagine as the tour continues we won't see major changes to the set list. But we'll see another chestnut or two along with a couple more songs from the new album. :) When I went to see Shania Twain's most recent tour, the majority of the audience chatted / went to get drinks during any of her new songs. But they wept / sang along / were amazed by the classics. Celine and her team know how this stuff works. Celine's been in the game a loooooooong time and we need to give her more credit. Celine knows what the hardcore fans want. But she also knows how to please a crowd. Hopefully someday we'll get that One Night Only concert of rarities but her team has to be careful about what the present to the masses so they WOW everybody.

It seems like Celine's getting more and more into the groove with each show. :wub: I also can't wait for all the promo that will come with the release of COURAGE. I bet we'll get some live performances of songs as part of TV promo that we might not see in the tour.

Edited by smw, 25 October 2019 - 12:32 PM.


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View PostTyler1991, on 25 October 2019 - 11:43 AM, said:

I honestly don't think we're going to get many more songs once the album comes out. Those of you insistent that the setlist is changing are setting yourselves up for disappointment. I predict two max with fomo being one. And what songs will it replace? It isn't going go be YTV...lcmm and batb are really the only fillers and i don't see them going either. They removed the reason for no replacement, so perhaps they just add the two new songs, but I can't see anything else being removed to make room for 6 new songs or anything like that. The crowd eats up the hits (be it celine's hit or someone elses). Sadly anymore than four new songs is overkill to the audience she is catering too.

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View PostCéline RO, on 25 October 2019 - 12:53 PM, said:



I miss your videos A LOT right now!

I can't stop watching them haha.
Last night i was watching all my videos on my big screen, i must say they do look and sound great. Every now and then one of henrique and Tim's videos would go into autoplay. They were also phenomenal!! It seems there isn't very much footage from last night unfortunately. :(

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View PostAdrienneM, on 25 October 2019 - 11:29 AM, said:

Damn... the stage their looks tiny compared to how it looked in QC and Ottawa

Tiny?

There's still part of the stage behind that big screen...

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View PostNmj, on 25 October 2019 - 11:53 AM, said:

HER hits we don’t have a problem with ( even tho I’ve been over BATB for years now lol ) I understand why she does them, it makes perfect sense...: however, there is plenty in the setlist besides the “hits” that are and should be interchangeable...........

“The Prayer” could go


This solo version of The Prayer is a masterpiece vocally.

It is what makes Céline, Céline; one of the best moments of this tour.

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View PostCritiaslux, on 25 October 2019 - 01:11 PM, said:



This solo version of The Prayer is a masterpiece vocally.

It is what makes Céline, Céline; one of the best moments of this tour.


Of course she sounds great on the song, I really enjoyed it in Cleveland... However, I was just saying I think the “general audience” wouldn’t miss that song like they would TPOL or BYLM, it’s a song that is totally interchangeable for a song like ANDHC or IDAN.

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View PostTyler1991, on 25 October 2019 - 11:43 AM, said:

I honestly don't think we're going to get many more songs once the album comes out. Those of you insistent that the setlist is changing are setting yourselves up for disappointment. I predict two max with fomo being one. And what songs will it replace? It isn't going go be YTV...lcmm and batb are really the only fillers and i don't see them going either. They removed the reason for no replacement, so perhaps they just add the two new songs, but I can't see anything else being removed to make room for 6 new songs or anything like that. The crowd eats up the hits (be it celine's hit or someone elses). Sadly anymore than four new songs is overkill to the audience she is catering too.

I’m going to need you to follow this tour in its entirety, just to film LOL.

That’s my dream job actually would be for them to allow me to travel with Celine and be in charge of her social media posts, I think Celine would get annoyed of how much I’d have the phone in her face gathering for posts LOL. :)

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View PostNmj, on 25 October 2019 - 01:24 PM, said:



I’m going to need you to follow this tour in its entirety, just to film LOL.

That’s my dream job actually would be for them to allow me to travel with Celine and be in charge of her social media posts, I think Celine would get annoyed of how much I’d have the phone in her face gathering for posts LOL. :)

That would be a dream!!

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View PostNmj, on 25 October 2019 - 01:24 PM, said:



I’m going to need you to follow this tour in its entirety, just to film LOL.

That’s my dream job actually would be for them to allow me to travel with Celine and be in charge of her social media posts, I think Celine would get annoyed of how much I’d have the phone in her face gathering for posts LOL. :)

I’d have her singing snippets of deep cuts with full force vocals as “BTS” clips for fans lmao! Get her to sing a snippet of TYLAM so everyone will shut up 😂

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View PostAdrienneM, on 25 October 2019 - 01:31 PM, said:



I’d have her singing snippets of deep cuts with full force vocals as “BTS” clips for fans lmao! Get her to sing a snippet of TYLAM so everyone will shut up 😂

LOL, you’d bet... if they gave me that job this forum would be in heaven... in a perfect world I’d get that job and in a real world Celine would probably fire me for working to much overtime :sofunny:

Edited by Nmj, 25 October 2019 - 01:33 PM.


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View PostNmj, on 25 October 2019 - 01:33 PM, said:



LOL, you’d bet... if they gave me that job this forum would be in heaven... in a perfect world I’d get that job and in a real world Celine would probably fire me for working to much overtime :sofunny:

Id possibly also make her have very special ticket selling strategies. Example:

“Hey everyone, its Celine Dion! I really hope youre enjoying the Courage World Tour! On March 5th I Have a show coming up in Brooklyn and I really hope you can attend. To make it special and enticing, I WILL perform TYLAM, IWYTNM and a medley of Misled, RTD, SFL, SLS, FOMO and JALBOB instead of YTV, the cover medley and Imagine. See ya there!

Boom, all 7,000 remaining tickets sold :sofunny:

Edited by AdrienneM, 25 October 2019 - 01:51 PM.


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Maybe we can start a crowdfunding campaign to send Tyler, Tim and Henrique to every single show filming for the forum!?
I'd pay for that!

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View PostJulienMcbeal, on 25 October 2019 - 01:57 PM, said:

Maybe we can start a crowdfunding campaign to send Tyler, Tim and Henrique to every single show filming for the forum!?
I'd pay for that!

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I was literally thinking about it all day today that no video has been uploaded lol

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For the Love of God , I just don't understand why she hasn't been doing Meet and Greets on this tour, since her shows starts at 8:15 or around that time frame ,  She could easily do them before she goes on,

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I get that, I really do.

But if they know that the diehard fans would love to hear more lesser-known songs, you could easily 'please' them with adding 1-3 rare songs.

The amount of 'known' songs for 'the people that didn't made it to Vegas, or the' general' fans is still big enough to cater them.

Especially when you tell us that 'you could easily add 25 more songs'

I bet those include some gems we hadn't heared in while that would show more diversity than it does now. Example:
IS, WDMHBN, Immortality, TC, LMBTL, ANDHC, IDAN, Unison, Tell Him.

Other than that, great all the reviews are very good and the audience loves her :wub:
Can't wait to see what she will add from Courage, makes me wonder if she will use the Montreal shows for the première of those ones.

View PostCelinesDIVO5, on 25 October 2019 - 08:01 AM, said:



Some people can’t spend thousands of dollars to go to Vegas, but they can spend a few hundred on a ticket in their hometown. I was only able to go to Vegas once during the “Celine” era, and I had to go there for a wedding...when Celine was off for two weeks. But I had to save my money and be there for the wedding and couldn’t afford to make two trips to Vegas. And I live in the US. It’s not easy to “just go to Vegas.”


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View Postsfbaysinger, on 24 October 2019 - 06:26 PM, said:

If you mean her singing the song "Reveal", I would love that. Since kids might come to shows it might not be the ideal song for her to sing, but as it's never been performed before I could SO get behind that.
I see no problem with kids listening to Reveal. Sex is implied. But even if it was not, I do not think they would be shocked or traumatized.

View Postscielle, on 24 October 2019 - 10:15 PM, said:

For those who don't like the medley, just be glad it's not 10 minutes longer! :giggle:

Anyway, some interesting tidbits in this one. Implies they'll be playing other songs from record once it's out.

This is brilliant news! :clap: IYAMT, BATB, TP, TLYM - either of these songs might be removed so that new songs are included to the tour.

View PostAdrienneM, on 25 October 2019 - 01:11 AM, said:

The "diehards" dont even make up like 5% of her total audience. I mean this forum is what? 30,000 people (mind you its the same 30 active all the time)? How many off of this forum would be attending every show? Chances are none. At a venue of say 15,000, you'd be lucky is 5-10 mega fans were there, so how do we feel we can demand anything when we're such a small subsection in the grand scheme of things. OF COURSE i want a better set list in terms of fan favourites, but its silly to act as if we're in any position or have any right to demand anything... let alone say whats crap or great when this tour has had nothing but stellar reviews from critics and the GP
Reality check. :yes: Encouraging to see in this forum!

View PostShaun, on 25 October 2019 - 04:09 AM, said:

Surely even the most casual of the "general public" aren't expecting to hear John Farnham, Prince or Queen songs when they go to a Celine Dion concert.

I can't remember ever going to see another artist and thinking to myself during the show "oh really hope they sing Because You Loved Me by Celine Dion tonight."
I agree. I think 1 or max 2 covers per concert should be enough. Then it becomes too Karaoke-ish and the songs lose their meaning and purpose. You also make another good point - Celine seems to be caring about the music of other singers more than any other singer cares about her music, or about incorporating her music to their tours for that matter. Same thing with Celine and her Adele fandom. She went crazy over Adele, praising her again and again and again. Normally, it should have been the other way around. :mellow:

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I saw this earlier & it made me laugh thinking of all the hair/wig/bob chat on here!!


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View Postnuts2you, on 25 October 2019 - 03:12 PM, said:


speaking of costumes, that look looks better thatn the actual black and white one.




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