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[Fanxiaoqiang]

Brand new documentary showing on Channel 5 in the UK at 2310 tonight!!!

Celine Dion: Secrets of Her Biggest Hits (60 minutes)
The stories behind three singles of the singles that made the singer a global superstar. The programme examines 1996 breakthrough ballad Because You Loved Me, operatic rock track It's All Coming Back to Me Now with its accompanying Gothic music video, and her 2003 cover of I Drove All Night, which drew inspiration from Swedish dance music.

United Kingdom

iTunes:
121. It's All Coming Back to Me Now
143. Because You Loved Me
263. I Drove All Night
354. Think Twice
445. It's All Coming Back to Me Now
549. I'm Alive
651. My Heart Will Go On
749. Think Twice
755. Immortality
765. Tell Him
1323. The Power of Love
1327. I'm Alive

Apple Music:
1258. Think Twice

iTunes Albums:
23. My Love - Essential Collection
61. Falling into You
377. The Colour of My Love
1093. Loved Me Back to Life

Apple Music Albums:
652. My Love - Essential Collection
819. Falling into You
855. Courage

[Fanxiaoqiang]

United Kingdom

iTunes:
202. Because You Loved Me
203. It's All Coming Back to Me Now
318. I Drove All Night
380. I'm Alive
702. The Prayer
764. It's All Coming Back to Me Now
1014. Think Twice
1195. Ashes
1203. Think Twice
1253. The Power of Love

Apple Music:
1164. Think Twice

iTunes Albums:
30. My Love - Essential Collection
221. Falling into You
488. A New Day... Live In Las Vegas

Apple Music Albums:
678. My Love - Essential Collection
710. Falling into You
1014. Courage
1292. The Colour of My Love

[emi&celine]

Ashes counts now more than 1.000.000 equivalent units sold from streaming through Spotify and YouTube

It's Céline's 6th song to achieve that

Next one will be TTWII (960.000 units)

[PuraVida]

emi&celine, on 02 November 2020 - 05:15 AM, said:

Ashes counts now more than 1.000.000 equivalent units sold from streaming through Spotify and YouTube

It's Céline's 6th song to achieve that

Next one will be TTWII (960.000 units)

I am shocked that Ashes is before TTWII

[jpatdeleon09]

emi&celine, on 02 November 2020 - 05:15 AM, said:

Ashes counts now more than 1.000.000 equivalent units sold from streaming through Spotify and YouTube

It's Céline's 6th song to achieve that

Next one will be TTWII (960.000 units)

Yet they didn't include it to her Courage World Tour

[ordinary fan]

jpatdeleon09, on 02 November 2020 - 06:02 AM, said:

Yet they didn't include it to her Courage World Tour

Yeah, as the only perform the hits, ashes is truely one of them and should get it's regular place in her setlists like MHWGO, BYLM etc

[guigafs15]

emi&celine, on 02 November 2020 - 05:15 AM, said:

Ashes counts now more than 1.000.000 equivalent units sold from streaming through Spotify and YouTube

It's Céline's 6th song to achieve that

Next one will be TTWII (960.000 units)

How did you get to these numbers of sales units?

[Fanxiaoqiang]

emi&celine, on 02 November 2020 - 05:15 AM, said:

Ashes counts now more than 1.000.000 equivalent units sold from streaming through Spotify and YouTube

It's Céline's 6th song to achieve that

Next one will be TTWII (960.000 units)

It can not be true
Ashes SPO 90M and VEVO 90M
This can hardly let Ashes to be a million  single

what is Ashes's iTunes  Number ?

[emi&celine]

Fanxiaoqiang, on 03 November 2020 - 09:02 AM, said:

It can not be true

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[guigafs15]

Still can't understand the math you doing here! It looks random!

[emi&celine]

guigafs15, on 04 November 2020 - 10:22 AM, said:

Still can't understand the math you doing here! It looks random!

Random? 😂

All streams from Spotify are divided by 125 and those from YouTube by 375

[jpatdeleon09]

emi&celine, on 04 November 2020 - 10:51 AM, said:

Random? 😂

All streams from Spotify are divided by 125 and those from YouTube by 375

Can you explain more? What's 125 and 375?

[emi&celine]

jpatdeleon09, on 04 November 2020 - 10:57 AM, said:

Can you explain more? What's 125 and 375?

These are the ratios Billboard uses to « convert » streams into equivalent song sales units (if I’m not wrong).

10 song units = 1 album units —> 1250 streams on Spotify or 3750 streams on YT = 1 equivalent album sale.


Rolling Stone even divides by 120 and 360.

[Ukrfan]

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[Ukrfan]

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[guigafs15]

emi&celine, on 04 November 2020 - 11:07 AM, said:

These are the ratios Billboard uses to « convert » streams into equivalent song sales units (if I’m not wrong).

10 song units = 1 album units —> 1250 streams on Spotify or 3750 streams on YT = 1 equivalent album sale.


Rolling Stone even divides by 120 and 360.

There's a BIG problem with the math you doing. First, certification for sales units are not given by Billboard but by RIAA. Second, for both Billboard and RIAA only counts the streaming originated inside USA. Those streaming numbers you're converting are from all over the world, not just USA, and each country has his own different rules. In order to do what you doing you actually have to isolated only the USA streaming numbers and then do the equivalence. Third, by Billboard rules, there's a difference in calculation between premium streaming and ad supported streaming. You actually have to figure out how much of those numbers on Spotify is from premium accounts and how much is from free accounts.

From RIAA is simpler, cause they don't make difference between premium or free streaming. You only have to divide from 150. But, again, is only for streaming originated inside USA. And it only counts streams from official channels, with label licenses!

That's why I said it was random numbers!

Edited by guigafs15, 04 November 2020 - 02:04 PM.

[Fanxiaoqiang]

emi&celine, on 04 November 2020 - 03:16 AM, said:

It seems that 100M equals 100.000 copies on SPOTIFY

[emi&celine]

guigafs15, on 04 November 2020 - 01:59 PM, said:

There's a BIG problem with the math you doing. First, certification for sales units are not given by Billboard but by RIAA. Second, for both Billboard and RIAA only counts the streaming originated inside USA. Those streaming numbers you're converting are from all over the world, not just USA, and each country has his own different rules. In order to do what you doing you actually have to isolated only the USA streaming numbers and then do the equivalence. Third, by Billboard rules, there's a difference in calculation between premium streaming and ad supported streaming. You actually have to figure out how much of those numbers on Spotify is from premium accounts and how much is from free accounts.

From RIAA is simpler, cause they don't make difference between premium or free streaming. You only have to divide from 150. But, again, is only for streaming originated inside USA. And it only counts streams from official channels, with label licenses!

That's why I said it was random numbers!

1) I never mentioned RIAA

2) I know the numbers I use are from all over the world and not only the USA. Though I thought applying an official formula to those worldwide numbers could be fair.

3) My intention was to share some kind of good news here with other Céline’s fans, with a positive feeling.

4) I’m sorry for having bothered you with that post of mine. Anyway the positive feeling mentioned above is gone now.

5) If other members find my calculations wrong and problematic then I will stop posting about them.

6) Capital letters seem unnecessary.

[Ukrfan]

emi&celine, on 05 November 2020 - 03:13 AM, said:

1) I never mentioned RIAA

2) I know the numbers I use are from all over the world and not only the USA. Though I thought applying an official formula to those worldwide numbers could be fair.

3) My intention was to share some kind of good news here with other Céline's fans, with a positive feeling.

4) I'm sorry for having bothered you with that post of mine. Anyway the positive feeling mentioned above is gone now.

5) If other members find my calculations wrong and problematic then I will stop posting about them.

6) Capital letters seem unnecessary.

We do not mind you doing your calculations, they are often very interesting!

However, calculations should be correct.

Look at the US elections   Trump uses his own math and equations and claims he is the winner.

[jpatdeleon09]

Hahahaha

Ukrfan said:

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We do not mind you doing your calculations, they are often very interesting!

However, calculations should be correct.

Look at the US elections   Trump uses his own math and equations and claims he is the winner.

Hahahaha poor Trump

Edited by jpatdeleon09, 05 November 2020 - 08:57 AM.

[PuraVida]

I don't understand why Celine isn't more popular on Streaming.

She is the best selling female artist of all time. And yet only two of her songs have 100 million listens or more on Spotify. Mariah meanwhile has 7 (not counting Christmas songs). Whitney has 4 (not counting Higher Love).

Maybe it's because she doesn't have a huge uptempo hit.

[Fanxiaoqiang]

PuraVida, on 09 November 2020 - 08:25 AM, said:

I don't understand why Celine isn't more popular on Streaming.

She is the best selling female artist of all time. And yet only two of her songs have 100 million listens or more on Spotify. Mariah meanwhile has 7 (not counting Christmas songs). Whitney has 4 (not counting Higher Love).

Maybe it's because she doesn't have a huge uptempo hit.

Celine has 4 too
Both  The power of love and It's all coming back to me now  surpass  120M+

[Ukrfan]

PuraVida, on 09 November 2020 - 08:25 AM, said:

I don't understand why Celine isn't more popular on Streaming.

She is the best selling female artist of all time. And yet only two of her songs have 100 million listens or more on Spotify. Mariah meanwhile has 7 (not counting Christmas songs). Whitney has 4 (not counting Higher Love).

Every diva was once called the best selling female artist of all time. I believe the real one is Madonna.

Celine never was big with songs, she was always an album seller.

[PuraVida]

Fanxiaoqiang, on 09 November 2020 - 10:41 AM, said:

Celine has 4 too
Both  The power of love and It's all coming back to me now  surpass  120M+

Okay, I thought Spotify showed all of the top songs in the "Popular" section .... I guess that's now how they do it

[Fanxiaoqiang]

 PuraVida, on 09 November 2020 - 01:39 PM, said:

Okay, I thought Spotify showed all of the top songs in the "Popular" section .... I guess that's now how they do it

The power of love and It's all coming back to me now were separated into 2 or 3 versions
SO it they seem to be very small listened   all version surpass 120M already

[Fanxiaoqiang]

Spotify:

Happy Xmas - 70,934,470 (+169,869)

[Fanxiaoqiang]

I‘m alive sets a record on VEVO on (2020/11/21)         215,745    

[PuraVida]

 Fanxiaoqiang, on 23 November 2020 - 03:51 AM, said:

I‘m alive sets a record on VEVO on (2020/11/21) 215,745

What's the record?

[Fanxiaoqiang]

 PuraVida, on 23 November 2020 - 05:58 AM, said:

What's the record?

A record on  daily view on Celine's VEVO
most view of a day 215,745

[PuraVida]

 Fanxiaoqiang, on 24 November 2020 - 06:16 AM, said:

A record on  daily view on Celine's VEVO
most view of a day 215,745

That's a pace for 78 million views a year. That would mean it would take her like 10 years to catch up to Whitney's 1 Billion views on IWALY