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[TommKat22]

I couldn't find a topic on the Let's Talk About Love album, so I decided to post this here. According to Billboard, Let's Talk About Love has sold 9.6 million copies in the U.S., and is the closest album to next pass 10 million copies in the U.S.!

http://www.billboard...ion-in-us-sales

Edited by Ronny83, 13 November 2017 - 03:28 AM.

[c4n4d4]

I read this today to: All The Way…A Decade In Song tops the 8 million mark in the US

[Celine Fan 77]

Great!! I guess this could translate into more oportunities for us to get special "anniversary" editions of both albums in the future

[TommKat22]

c4n4d4, on 21 February 2013 - 12:17 AM, said:

I read this today to: All The Way…A Decade In Song tops the 8 million mark in the US

Where did you read this?

[wjd]

Billboard announced the updated All The Way sales - they stand at 8,000,150.

As of last week, the most recent US sales of her big albums...

DION*CELINE FALLING INTO YOU 10,811,868
DION*CELINE LET'S TALK ABOUT LOVE 9,601,498
DION*CELINE ALL THE WAY-A DECADE OF SONG 8,000,150
DION*CELINE THESE ARE SPECIAL TIMES 5,274,567

Lets Talk About Love will NOT cross 10m for at least 10 years - its currently selling around 400 copies per week, so unless it gets put on a major long term discount [and I'm talking 5 years], it won't pass 10m. Its shipped close to 12m though as its sold 9.6 on Soundscan, 1m on BMG + more on other music clubs.

[celine4evauk]

c4n4d4, on 21 February 2013 - 12:17 AM, said:

I read this today to: All The Way…A Decade In Song tops the 8 million mark in the US

Yeah i read this too.
Something like the best selling greatest hits album ever!!

[zuv]

WHAT? this album still sales at 1,000 copies per week?????

Aren't these HUGE sales for a 16yrs old album?!?

Damn 16 yrs already?!?? I remember buying this CD like it was yesterday!!

Does Celine still make money over these? Or do you think it was a contract with a fix amount of money for Celine? I guess not, that wouldnt be fair.

[Yangedd]

I'm delighted that "Let's Talk About Love" is still selling. It's an amazing album and I really hope it passed the mark.

[Fanxiaoqiang]

[font=宋]Celine Dion’s 1999 compilation All The Way…A Decade In Song tops the 8 million mark. It’s the best-selling greatest hits album by a female solo artist in the Nielsen SoundScan era. (Madonna’s The Immaculate Collection is in second place. It has sold 5,845,000 copies since 1991. But that album was released in November 1990, so its tally is incomplete.) Two of Dion’s albums have sold even better. Falling Into You is up to 10,812,000. Let’s Talk About Love is up to 9,601,000.[/font]

[Fanxiaoqiang]

[font=宋]Pearl Jam's 'Ten' Album Hits 10 Million in U.S. Sales[/font]

[font=宋]Landmark album is the 22nd full-length to reach 10 million sales in the SoundScan era.[/font]
[font=宋]【美国第22张钻石专辑揭晓！】[/font]
[font=宋]Pearl Ja***andmark debut album "Ten" becomes the latest addition to the 10 million-sellers club in the U.S.[/font]
[font=宋]【Pearl Jam的首张专辑《Ten》成为US史上第22张钻石专辑！】[/font]
[font=宋]This week, the 1991 Epic Records release surpasses the 10 million U.S. sales mark according to Nielsen SoundScan, making it the 22nd album to reach the threshold since the company began tracking data in 1991.[/font]

[font=宋]In the week ending Feb. 17, the album sold nearly 4,000 copies (up 159% over the previous week). That brings its total sales to about 1,000 over 10 million.[/font]
[font=宋]【《Ten》上周以4000张销量把即将认证钻石的它冲破1000W的销量】[/font]
[font=宋]It is the fourth album to hit 10 million U.S. sales since the start of 2012. In that span of time, "Ten" follows Linkin Park's "Hybrid Theory," Usher's "Confessions" and Adele's blockbuster "21."[/font]
[font=宋]【《Ten》 同样也是自2012年以来第四张被认证的钻石专辑：《Hybrid Theory》，《Confessions》，《21》。】[/font]

[font=宋]"21" now stands as the No. 15 best-selling album of the SoundScan era, with 10.4 million sold. It is currently about 186,000 copies behind Britney Spears' "Baby One More Time," which is in 14th place.[/font]

[font=宋]【It should be a while before another album crosses the 10 million mark. While we had a quick succession of albums hit 10 million in the last year, the next-closest album to 10 million is still 400,000 copies away: Celine Dion's "Let's Talk About Love" (9.6 million). At the present, the album is selling well below 1,000 copies a week.】[/font]
[font=宋]【当然我们将迎来接下来的钻石专辑，最具潜力的还属席琳迪翁的《Let's Talk About Love 》（960W）.虽然有40W的差距，不过这张专辑也正在以近1000张每周的速度增长。我们以最好的成绩（每年5W张）来算，[/font][font=宋]最快需要8年才能认证钻石（自己算了一下）[/font][font=宋]】[/font][font=宋]at least 8 years with the best hopness![/font]
[font=宋]Since 1991, the highest selling album -- according to SoundScan -- is Metallica's self-titled 1991 release, which has moved 15.86 million. Shania Twain's "Come On Over" is in second place with 15.53 million and Alanis Morissette's "Jagged Little Pill" is in third with 14.82 million.[/font]

[font=宋]In fourth place is Backstreet Boys' "Millennium" (12.21 million), followed by the Beatles' "1" (12.16 million), "The Bodyguard" soundtrack (12.06 million), Santana's "Supernatural" (11.73 million), Creed's "Human Clay" (11.64 million) and Bob Marley and the Wailers' "Legend" (11.26 million) at Nos. 5-9.[/font]

[font=宋]Rounding out SoundScan's top 10 selling albums since 1991 is 'N Sync's "No Strings Attached," with 11.14 million.[/font]

[font=宋]Artist, Title (Year of Release), Time To 10 Million[/font]
[font=宋]22张美国钻石销量（超过一千万实际销量）。[/font]
[font=宋]1. Metallica, Metallica (1991), 337 weeks[/font]
[font=宋]2. Shania Twain, Come On Over (1997), 96 weeks
[/font]
[font=宋]3. Alanis Morissette, Jagged Little Pill (1995)
, 66 weeks[/font]
[font=宋]4. Backstreet Boys, Millennium (1999)
, 39 weeks[/font]
[font=宋]5. The Beatles, 1 (2000)
, 227 weeks[/font]
[font=宋]6. Whitney Houston/Soundtrack, The Bodyguard (1992)
, 72 weeks[/font]
[font=宋]7. Santana, Supernatural (1999)
, 60 weeks[/font]
[font=宋]8. Creed, Human Clay (1999)
, 93 weeks[/font]
[font=宋]9. Bob Marley & the Wailers, Legend (1984), 18 years 
[/font]
[font=宋]10. *NSYNC, No Strings Attached (2000)
, 43 weeks[/font]
[font=宋]11. Norah Jones, Come Away With Me (2002)
, 259 weeks[/font]
[font=宋]12. 【Celine Dion, Falling Into You (1996) , 160 weeks
】[/font]
[font=宋]13. Eminem, The Marshall Mathers LP (2000)
, 343 weeks[/font]
[font=宋]14. Britney Spears, . . . Baby One More Time (1999)
, 106 weeks[/font]
[font=宋]15. Hootie & the Blowfish, Cracked Rear View (1994)
, 442 weeks[/font]
[font=宋]16. Soundtrack, Titanic (1997)
, 263 weeks[/font]
[font=宋]17. Backstreet Boys, Backstreet Boys (1997), 226 weeks
[/font]
[font=宋]18. Eminem, The Eminem Show (2002)
, 489 weeks[/font]
[font=宋]19. Usher, Confessions (2004)
, 433 weeks[/font]
[font=宋]20. Linkin Park, Hybrid Theory (2000)
, 617 weeks[/font]
[font=宋]21. Adele, 21 (2011), 92 weeks[/font]
[font=宋]22. Pearl Jam, Ten (1991), 21 years[/font]

[font=宋]FROM:[/font]http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2176023238

[TommKat22]

wjd, on 21 February 2013 - 04:23 AM, said:

Billboard announced the updated All The Way sales - they stand at 8,000,150.

As of last week, the most recent US sales of her big albums...

DION*CELINE FALLING INTO YOU 10,811,868
DION*CELINE LET'S TALK ABOUT LOVE 9,601,498
DION*CELINE ALL THE WAY-A DECADE OF SONG 8,000,150
DION*CELINE THESE ARE SPECIAL TIMES 5,274,567

Lets Talk About Love will NOT cross 10m for at least 10 years - its currently selling around 400 copies per week, so unless it gets put on a major long term discount [and I'm talking 5 years], it won't pass 10m. Its shipped close to 12m though as its sold 9.6 on Soundscan, 1m on BMG + more on other music clubs.

The reason I asked is because I read Billboard every day, and I never saw this article!

[Chula]

Another 400,000 copies to go! and this should take 5 YEARS at least!

[wjd]

Chula, on 23 February 2013 - 08:15 AM, said:

Another 400,000 copies to go! and this should take 5 YEARS at least!

At its current rate, it will take 19 years.

With a heavy discount applied across the US - like two years ago - it could take 5 years. But it would need to be a long-term, heavily discounted campaign. And the album would need to be re-shipped as I don't believe there are 400,000 copies lying on US shelves anymore.

Basically, if Sony want this - they need to invest money, and work with retailers. They probably don't want it that much.

[TommKat22]

wjd, on 23 February 2013 - 12:08 PM, said:

At its current rate, it will take 19 years.

With a heavy discount applied across the US - like two years ago - it could take 5 years. But it would need to be a long-term, heavily discounted campaign. And the album would need to be re-shipped as I don't believe there are 400,000 copies lying on US shelves anymore.

Basically, if Sony want this - they need to invest money, and work with retailers. They probably don't want it that much.

Not entirely true. I still see the album for $5 in various places, and according to Billboard (http://www.billboard...ney-makers-2012), Let's Talk About Love is her biggest catalog seller, and sold 75,000 copies in 2011 alone! And that wasn't even with all the promotion of Titanic 3D this past year, so, there's a chance that it could happen quicker.

"8. Celine Dion
$14,261,515
Celine Dion sure knows how to make a comeback. After her historic five-year residency at Las Vegas' Colosseum at Caesars Palace ended in late 2007, the Canadian singer took a well-deserved break, then returned to the 4,000-seat venue in March 2011 for yet another stand. She grossed $40.1 million from 57 performances last year that drew nearly a quarter-million fans and booked additional Vegas dates through this August. Though Dion's last studio album was 2007's Taking Chances, she sold 331,000 albums in 2011, the biggest catalog item being 1997's Let's Talk About Love (75,000 copies). The singer also sold 956,000 digital tracks last year, with the top seller still being "My Heart Will Go On," from 1997's blockbuster film "Titanic" (167,000 downloads)."

[wjd]

TommKat22, on 24 February 2013 - 12:14 AM, said:

Not entirely true. I still see the album for $5 in various places, and according to Billboard (http://www.billboard...ney-makers-2012), Let's Talk About Love is her biggest catalog seller, and sold 75,000 copies in 2011 alone! And that wasn't even with all the promotion of Titanic 3D this past year, so, there's a chance that it could happen quicker.

"8. Celine Dion
$14,261,515
Celine Dion sure knows how to make a comeback. After her historic five-year residency at Las Vegas' Colosseum at Caesars Palace ended in late 2007, the Canadian singer took a well-deserved break, then returned to the 4,000-seat venue in March 2011 for yet another stand. She grossed $40.1 million from 57 performances last year that drew nearly a quarter-million fans and booked additional Vegas dates through this August. Though Dion's last studio album was 2007's Taking Chances, she sold 331,000 albums in 2011, the biggest catalog item being 1997's Let's Talk About Love (75,000 copies). The singer also sold 956,000 digital tracks last year, with the top seller still being "My Heart Will Go On," from 1997's blockbuster film "Titanic" (167,000 downloads)."

Lets Talk About Love was heavily discounted in 2010 & 2011 & for bits of 2012 - that's the ONLY reason its sold so many copies in that time. Before the discount, and now after it, the album sells sod all

The promotion of Titanic did and will do sod all for her albums - it barely registered an increase in downloads for MHWGO.

[TommKat22]

wjd, on 24 February 2013 - 12:49 PM, said:

Lets Talk About Love was heavily discounted in 2010 & 2011 & for bits of 2012 - that's the ONLY reason its sold so many copies in that time. Before the discount, and now after it, the album sells sod all

The promotion of Titanic did and will do sod all for her albums - it barely registered an increase in downloads for MHWGO.

Not true again. Billboard had an article saying that My Heart Will Go On had the biggest download week the week of the 100th anniversary of the Titanic sinking. It sold like 14,000 copies (which isn't that much, I know), and was the largest sales week for the song in its entire digital life.

[garçon]

Didn't know exactly where to put this.. didn't want to start a whole new topic..

REALLY interesting review on LTAL from The New York Observer, thereby elaborating on the future of Celine's image as a singer. This -actually completely negative- article shares interesting insights on how Celine was considered in 1997, at the unparalleled height of her career, just after winning the Grammy for Album of the year... but just before the biggest commercial successes of MHWGO and the album sales of LTAL.
But: apparently she was already considered as mere 'kitsch' by such pseudo-intellectual journalists, whereas I always thought she enjoyed a certain undisputed respect at that time.

(The author also mentions something about the Phil Spector recording sessions,, didn't understand how to understand this,.. so, anyone??)

Anyway, have a look at it...


http://observer.com/...be-but-not-now/


Celine Dion: Is She Cool? Someday, Maybe, but Not Now

By Jonathan Bernstein 12/08/97 12:00am

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Every dog derided as hopelessly uncool in one decade has its day somewhere down the line. Look at the entities that have blossomed under the light of recent reappraisal. Disco? Cool. The Bee Gees? Cool. Burt Bacharach? Cool. Kiss? Cool. Fleetwood Mac? Cool. Such belated iconography is invariably intended ironically but has the effect of bestowing a second life on artists originally overlooked, either because their careers were cursed by built-in obsolescence or because their saturation success caused them to be perceived as spineless servants to a vast, invisible, taste-free consensus.
So let’s jump forward 15 years to a time when Celine Dion is considered cool. It will probably take until 2012 for society to have advanced to a point where a public expression of appreciation for Ms. Dion is not considered an elaborate put-on. In this atmosphere of tolerance, Celine Dion aficionados will be able to discuss her colossal lung power and how it belies her birdlike frame. They will raise glasses in a toast to the tenacity that saw the French-Canadian canary not only become phonetically fluent in English but also tame the unmanageable frizz with which she struggled during her tenure as a Québécois LeAnn Rimes. They will pay tribute to her unapologetic squareness, noting that while the likes of Janet Jackson, Madonna and Mariah Carey made strenuous attempts to keep their music contemporary and their lyrics confessional and libidinous, Ms. Dion remained untouched by time or trend. Her niche, they will conclude, was high drama; given a plaintive three-minute declaration of heartache, she was capable of delivering a soaring, showy performance. Ultimately, they will decide, she was the unfunkiest of divas. Then mention of her 1997 album, Let’s Talk About Love (550 Music/Epic), will come up, and they’ll fall silent. Because even in that mythical future when Celine Dion is considered cool, Let’s Talk About Love will be thought of as her least cool album.
To the untrained ear, this record is just as much of a sack of suck as her previous outing, Falling Into You . But I say No. Falling Into You featured Ms. Dion’s made-in-heaven collaboration with Jim Steinman, the cataclysmic “It’s All Coming Back to Me Now.” It featured one of hired hitwoman Diane Warren’s most lethal concoctions, “Because You Loved Me.” It featured Ms. Dion’s riven-with-despair rendition of Eric Carmen’s “All By Myself.” It would even have featured some songs produced by Phil Spector, except that the wandering genius wanted to keep Ms. Dion locked in the vocal booth for six months. Even in his insanity, however, Mr. Spector proved cognizant of the fact that Celine Dion functions best as the eye of the storm.
There is, of course, no Phil Spector collaboration on Let’s Talk About Love . There are no Diane Warren songs, and Jim Steinman’s presence is limited to a meager “Additional Production” credit. In their place, heavy friends have been dragooned into duty on an album designed to set in stone the notion of Ms. Dion as less of a singer and more of an international monument.
The entire project is, in my estimation, an unmitigated disaster. It kicks off in time-honored fashion with a bombastic power ballad, “The Reason,” co-written by Carole King and produced by Sir George Martin. Thus, straight away, we find the inherent wrongheadedness of this record. Carole King hasn’t written a memorable song in many a year and-hello?-didn’t George Martin recently announce that he was quitting the producing racket because his hearing was going? The latter affliction was probably incurred by a silent prayer offered up during the recording of “The Reason” to be struck deaf.
Ms. Dion’s team-up with the Bee Gees is similarly dispiriting. One of the up-to-now immutable laws of science is that if you put the Gibb brothers with a female singer, the results will be sensational. History is littered with examples: “Love Me” by Yvonne Elliman; “Ain’t Nothing Going to Keep Me From You” by Teri De Sario; “Emotion” by Samantha Sang; and “Heartbreaker” by Dionne Warwick. “Immortality” belongs on a whole different sort of list. The cement-laden dirge-taken, horrifically, from the upcoming stage musical adaptation of Saturday Night Fever -defeats both Ms. Dion and the Gibbs. Departing from dramatics proves, as always, a glaring error for this most rigid and unspontaneous of performers. She’s fallen on her face before when attempting to be as one with the rhythm, but Celine Dion has never humiliated herself as comprehensively as she does when mashing it up in a dance-hall style on “Treat Her Like a Lady.” As Seinfeld’ s George Costanza remarked in a similar situation, “Sweet fancy Moses!”
The centerpiece of Let’s Talk About Love is “Tell Him,” a duet with Barbra Streisand. The last time Ms. Streisand made a record with another female artist was on “Enough Is Enough” with Donna Summer. During the recording, Ms. Summer was reportedly so intimidated that she attempted to outdo her partner by holding a note so long it caused her to pass out. Anyone who’s witnessed, through the cracks of his or her fingers, the video for “Tell Him” in which Ms. Dion relates to Ms. Streisand like a newly born fawn nuzzling up against its mother, will sense that this is no diva face-off. The two singers give each other room to emote, restraining themselves until the final choruses before transforming into something akin to a pair of drunks wrestling over the microphone on karaoke night.
But this is nothing compared to the album’s other massive guest appearance. Luciano Pavarotti has sung with Bryan Adams, Elton John and Bono. But Celine Dion has something his previous pop partners have lacked. She’s audible. This proves to be a hideous miscalculation, given the caliber of song they’ve chosen to share. “I Hate You Then I Love You,” a retitled remake of an old Shirley Bassey song, “Never Never Never,” is a clattering camp travesty during which the big man and the little sparrow indulge in some pent-up sexual jousting. All the unleashed octaves in the world fail to expunge the mental image of the most unfeasible coupling since Biggie Smalls and Li’l Kim.
A sliver of redemption is found in the passable version of Leo Sayer’s “When I Need You” and a perky piece of club pop, “Just a Little Bit of Love.” But the only moment approaching Vintage Dion is the crushing ballad “My Heart Will Go On.” Finally, all the components are in place: the ornate arrangement, the overblown orchestration, the thunderous drums and the chorus hysterical enough to allow Ms. Dion to crank up past Valkyrie level. The song turns out to be the closing theme from James Cameron’s Titanic . Fitting, because, even to the Celine Dion cheerleaders in 2012, Let’s Talk About Love is going to go down like that ill-fated vessel.

[Neddo]

Celine is hated because she's Canadian and most of her haters are from USA.

[québecflower]

Neddo, on 27 March 2013 - 01:59 PM, said:

Celine is hated because she's Canadian and most of her haters are from USA.

haters can be everywhere. French canadian is a better answer . She is one of the only Diva that have had that kind of succes who doesn't have english as her mother tongue.

[wjd]

Neddo, on 27 March 2013 - 01:59 PM, said:

Celine is hated because she's Canadian and most of her haters are from USA.

Don't talk foolish.

She gets the same accusations thrown at her all over the place - she's kitsch, she's camp, she's over the top, she's pompous etc. But she's still sold an enormous amount of records, and that annoys critics - she is a paradigm that nobody can seem to solve, how can this one woman that has had so many negative reviews from so many different reviewers, continue to sell so many records?

All I can say is F*** YOU reviewers!

[Neddo]

wjd, on 27 March 2013 - 03:06 PM, said:

Don't talk foolish.

She gets the same accusations thrown at her all over the place - she's kitsch, she's camp, she's over the top, she's pompous etc. But she's still sold an enormous amount of records, and that annoys critics - she is a paradigm that nobody can seem to solve, how can this one woman that has had so many negative reviews from so many different reviewers, continue to sell so many records?

All I can say is F*** YOU reviewers!

She has a lot more positive ones and also more mixed.

[garçon]

wjd, on 27 March 2013 - 03:06 PM, said:

Don't talk foolish.

She gets the same accusations thrown at her all over the place - she's kitsch, she's camp, she's over the top, she's pompous etc. But she's still sold an enormous amount of records, and that annoys critics - she is a paradigm that nobody can seem to solve, how can this one woman that has had so many negative reviews from so many different reviewers, continue to sell so many records?

All I can say is F*** YOU reviewers!

Well, considering from the paradigm of serious music critics, of course her music is kitsch.
I -as a profound fan- would find it hard to consider most of her music as Art... I'd rather argue the music is immaculate, top-design, perfectly polished.
Celine herself is a Godess, of course, an unmatched, unprecedented talent.

[DionFanAlways]

Neddo, on 27 March 2013 - 01:59 PM, said:

Celine is hated because she's Canadian and most of her haters are from USA.

WOW! I usually agree with you but WTF are you talking about? Proof?


While you're at it I guess every thing is America's fault also?

Edited by DionFanAlways, 27 March 2013 - 05:30 PM.

[DionFanAlways]

Kind of struck a nerve......

[c4n4d4]

DionFanAlways, on 27 March 2013 - 05:32 PM, said:

Kind of struck a nerve......

Cause your from Texas haha
Just kidding!

But I agree you can't say all her "haters" are American.That's very biased and not true.

[DionFanAlways]

c4n4d4, on 27 March 2013 - 05:34 PM, said:

Cause your from Texas haha
Just kidding!

But I agree you can't say all her "haters" are American.That's very biased and not true.

Lol!

[chocolatechip15]

Celine's never been too popular with critics -- I think LTAL got such harsh critics partly because Celine was so insanely popular at that time -- FIY had just sold something like 20 million albums.  I think critics felt like it was "cool" to *not* like her.

Obviously the fans didn't agree - I think LTAL was her biggest selling album ever.  (And it's not just b/c of MHWGO, b/c if people wanted just that song, they could have just bought the Titanic soundtrack, which was also huge).

Edited by chocolatechip15, 27 March 2013 - 07:42 PM.

[TiagoFragoso05]

I do not know if i can do this here, but. i'm selling my blue let's talk about love
http://www.ebay.com/...984.m1586.l2649

[Si J'etais Quelqu'un]

I remember spending a few years real annoyed that All The Way was 6x Platinum when its sales were like 7.7 million at the time. And when they finally re-certified it, it was for 7x platinum.

I guess it's just 'fan ego' but it really shows how popular she was at the time. Her greatest hits album basically sold in the realm of the two previous studio albums, and its certification doesn't quite reflect that. I've always wondered by BMG sales aren't counted by the RIAA. Can anyone clear that up for me? I mean, units are units, right?

I also remember A New Day Has Come being certified 4x Platinum, and then one day I woke up and it was 3x Platinum and nobody ever commented on it.

Edited by Si J'etais Quelqu'un, 28 March 2013 - 10:25 AM.

[wjd]

Si J, on 28 March 2013 - 10:25 AM, said:

I remember spending a few years real annoyed that All The Way was 6x Platinum when its sales were like 7.7 million at the time. And when they finally re-certified it, it was for 7x platinum.

I guess it's just 'fan ego' but it really shows how popular she was at the time. Her greatest hits album basically sold in the realm of the two previous studio albums, and its certification doesn't quite reflect that. I've always wondered by BMG sales aren't counted by the RIAA. Can anyone clear that up for me? I mean, units are units, right?

I also remember A New Day Has Come being certified 4x Platinum, and then one day I woke up and it was 3x Platinum and nobody ever commented on it.

The RIAA doesn't look at retail sales in any form - its only concerned with shipments. But shipments will usually equate to retail sales anyway. Within her RIAA certifications, there do lie some discrepancies - she's very undercertified.

When auditing, the RIAA will take include music club sales, providing the label can prove they've shipped them.