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Céline's Singing Rivalwho is Célines main rival


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let's try and keep this one light hearted lol

who in your mind is Céline's main rival in terms of singing ability and music status... i'm sure for most of you she is above everyone else, but just for fun, who is her match, or just below her, or even above her.

for me i'd say Whitney Houston. the two seem very simular in the respect that they are fantastic female ballad singers and have strong strong STRONG voices! the style of their music is quite simular too. the main difference between whitney and celine seems to be the strength of their singing pitch, whilst céline i feel is suited to lower poweful tones whitney gives a good high note. i feel céline's higher notes are a bit too shaky such as the end of MHWGO.

other contenders:

mariah carey - i wouldnt conisder her to be like celine as her style of music has gone very ghetto and she conquers most of her songs with high (and i do mean HIGH) notes. though alot of her older work is more ballad-like and her voice is almost as powerful.

shirley bassey - i hate to say it but this woman i feel has an even more powerful voice than our celine. whilst mariah has dominated the whistle pitch, shirley bassey has truly dominated sheer power.

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NO ONE  :P

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View Postlive to love, on Feb 26 2008, 07:08 PM, said:

NO ONE  :P

LOL i knew someone would do that :P

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currently i would probably say no one as although whitney has released an album she's not really active in the music industry at the mo! in the past def whitney and shirley bassey.
depending on the future i think that leona lewis has a big future ahead of her although i dont think will ever be as big as celine!
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no one is as big as céline..she's simply unrivalled..there's no singer in the world who can be compared to céline
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Of course No-One!!!
Really, Each time I am listening to someone else for a long time, I just got to hear Celine's voice after it for relaxing me because for me NO-ONE ever is in Celine's class.
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Well I can only speak for the U.S., but it seems to me like everybody always puts Celine, Mariah, and Whitney in the same category....which is a compliment to all three of them. Now, I just don't think Mariah's voice is a good as Celine's despite her range. Especially as of late, she always sings in that damn head voice. I heard Whitney sing live recently, and she lowers the key just like Celine does when SHE sings live. I don't think that takes anything away from them as singers...but with age...I guess the voice doesn't have the register that it used to. So I guess those are her two main "rivals". The difference is...Whitney and Mariah are *censored*...and Celine is pure of heart.

EDIT: Now why is b*tches censored? I mean...we're all adults here.

Edited by Jeffieboi, 26 February 2008 - 03:48 PM.


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You can't deny that Whitney also has (or at least had. She should have taken more care of it) a very powerful voice, but of cause I
always preferred Celine.   :innocent:

But since Whitney isn't curently active, I would say
that no one can compete with Celine at the moment.  :notworthy:

And honestly, I never thought Mariah could reach Celine!   :thumbdown:

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Obviously Whitney was a major rival back in the day, but I literally can't think of anyone who is as good as Celine, not even close!

In terms of raw power I don't think she will ever be matched, her voice truely is a gift!

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If I were to compare Whitney Houston it has to be when she actually could sing. She has a good voice, but I don't think she has that anymore. Celine is the only one of this lifetime that has the voice no one else can claim they have. No Mariah Carey either (she just sequels, and has a terrible range of her notes).

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View Postcarlottazenere, on Feb 26 2008, 03:07 PM, said:

no one is as big as céline..she's simply unrivalled..there's no singer in the world who can be compared to céline

Oh yeah, there's no point of comparation... :pinch:

Edited by celinecolombian, 26 February 2008 - 05:23 PM.

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in singing department, we have THE BIG 3 (mariah, whitney, celine). mariah became a 'studio' singer and her live performances are somewhat disappointing. whitney's voice is still in recovery, but i doubt it will return to its original shape since whitney's already 44 years old and she can never sound like in her late 80's-early 90's peak. celine's voice has gone a lot. but im happy that eventhough lip synching became an addiction to her, she can still sing and hit the right notes effortlessly. watching her sessions of TC, you can tell that she's still the celine we all watched at the sessions of LTAL in the late 90's. she's still the greatest female vocalist of her time.

success-wise, there are few, madonna, janet jackson, mariah carey, whitney houston, shania twain.

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View PostJeffieboi, on Feb 26 2008, 04:48 PM, said:

Well I can only speak for the U.S., but it seems to me like everybody always puts Celine, Mariah, and Whitney in the same category....which is a compliment to all three of them. Now, I just don't think Mariah's voice is a good as Celine's despite her range. Especially as of late, she always sings in that damn head voice. I heard Whitney sing live recently, and she lowers the key just like Celine does when SHE sings live. I don't think that takes anything away from them as singers...but with age...I guess the voice doesn't have the register that it used to. So I guess those are her two main "rivals". The difference is...Whitney and Mariah are *censored*...and Celine is pure of heart.

EDIT: Now why is b*tches censored? I mean...we're all adults here.


Even though Mariah, Whitney, and Celine have always been compared, the mid 1990s was the era when their "competition" was at full force.  In spite of being "singing rivals", they all held their own ground and had their specific fan base.  So I guess we can say that "competition" more or less did not exist per se.  Though they are all vocal powerhouses, they are all very different.

Whether Mariah lost her voice or not, her most recent albums and performances show she can still hit some notes, but her vocal stamina she always showed the world sometimes appears to not be present.

Let us all remember that in the mid 1990s during the Falling Into You and Let's Talk About Love eras, Celine did not lower her key or pitch when she sang live.  Celine started lowering her key when singing live during her residency in Las Vegas.  Even though Celine has lowered her key in certain songs such as TPOL, TLYM, BYLM, and IACBTMN, she still sounds great.  You can also still appreciate the high notes in the songs.  On the other hand, Celine did not lower her key when singing RDMH in Las Vegas.

Nonetheless, I have watched some of Whitney's live performances on YouTube and what not.  Though Whitney is very talented vocally, she often lowers her key when singing live.  As such, her live songs sound very different than they do recorded.  It seems to me that when Whitney lowers her key when singing live, some of the songs lose their substance.   However, when Celine does lower her key, the songs still seem to retain their resonance.

Edited by scorp82, 26 February 2008 - 06:18 PM.


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Back in the early/mid 90's I would have said Mariah and Whitney...However those two have gone way off the beaten path of late...whilst Celine has remained stable and timeless.
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Hate to say this but. MC in my opinion. But I think Celine would still be the successful one as ever. LOL.

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View Postsuperstarleash, on Feb 26 2008, 08:55 PM, said:

Back in the early/mid 90's I would have said Mariah and Whitney...However those two have gone way off the beaten path of late...whilst Celine has remained stable and timeless.
Agreed! :)
Part of me wants to agree with the person who said no one though haha

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Definitely Mariah for a fact that both of them started in the 90's ( Celine released her first english album in 1990/1991).

Celine and Mariah are still doing well in the music industry until now. They've sold hundreds of millions of albums.

Whitney was just compared to them 'cos there wasn't really anybody on Whitney's time who was as popular as her and her voice is also far better than the others. Whitney didn't have a rival on her time. It was unfortunate that Whitney engaged to things that affected her voice and popularity that when she released here albums in the 90's, it didn't do well as better as when she started.

Alicia Key's rival is Beyonce. and not Celine.

Britney's rival shouldn't really be Christina cos Britney's voice is nothing compared to Christina's voice. Christina's dancing is also nothing compared to Britney's dancing skills.

It should be Christina and Kelly Clarkson. I would suggest Christina to stick on pop ballads so more people will buy her albums. Just like what happened to kelly. Because of the song "Because of You", a lot of people buy her album.

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View PostRLAAMJR., on Feb 26 2008, 10:12 PM, said:

Definitely Mariah for a fact that both of them started in the 90's ( Celine released her first english album in 1990/1991).

Celine and Mariah are still doing well in the music industry until now. They've sold hundreds of millions of albums.

Whitney was just compared to them 'cos there wasn't really anybody on Whitney's time who was as popular as her and her voice is also far better than the others. Whitney didn't have a rival on her time. It was unfortunate that Whitney engaged to things that affected her voice and popularity that when she released here albums in the 90's, it didn't do well as better as when she started.

Alicia Key's rival is Beyonce. and not Celine.

Britney's rival shouldn't really be Christina cos Britney's voice is nothing compared to Christina's voice. Christina's dancing is also nothing compared to Britney's dancing skills.

It should be Christina and Kelly Clarkson. I would suggest Christina to stick on pop ballads so more people will buy her albums. Just like what happened to kelly. Because of the song "Because of You", a lot of people buy her album.

I would say that Kelly Clarkson is no competition for Christina Aguilera.  Even though Kelly Clarkson can sing well, I just don't think Christina would need to worry about Kelly.

Besides, did Christina not co-write Miss Independent, one of Kelly's singles from her debut album?

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View Postsuperstarleash, on Feb 26 2008, 08:55 PM, said:

Back in the early/mid 90's I would have said Mariah and Whitney...However those two have gone way off the beaten path of late...whilst Celine has remained stable and timeless.

Totally agreed! Besides, I never really thought Whitney's voice was THAT special... I mean, don't get me wrong, I DO think she is one of the greatest singers of all-time (Celine being THE best, hahaha!), but her voice just didn't have that super special, unique sound like Celine's voice does... and well, it's obvious she has lost her voice now... and don't even get me started on Mariah, that girl used to have a very special talent and she just lost it all together, she can't seem to be able to sing live anymore, all she does is shout, not sing... and... she's a b**ch... always has been and always will be...  :P

View PostThisTime, on Feb 26 2008, 09:23 PM, said:

Part of me wants to agree with the person who said no one though haha

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View Postscorp82, on Feb 26 2008, 08:27 PM, said:

Besides, did Christina not co-write Miss Independent, one of Kelly's singles from her debut album?


She co-wrote the song and it was going to be on her "Stripped" Album, but it did not make the final cut, so the co-writer/producer finished up the song and let Clarkson use it on her album.  Christina did not intentionally co-write the song for Clarkson.  But I agree... not really rivals, are they?

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View Postroberry82, on Feb 27 2008, 12:04 AM, said:

View Postscorp82, on Feb 26 2008, 08:27 PM, said:

Besides, did Christina not co-write Miss Independent, one of Kelly's singles from her debut album?


She co-wrote the song and it was going to be on her "Stripped" Album, but it did not make the final cut, so the co-writer/producer finished up the song and let Clarkson use it on her album.  Christina did not intentionally co-write the song for Clarkson.  But I agree... not really rivals, are they?


Yes, that is true... Christina was considering Miss Independent for her second album, albeit the song was not complete.  However, if I am not mistaken, Christina found Fighter and chose that song instead.

Though Christina did not co-write it "intentionally", her name is still on the song credits as a writer and was eventually given to Kelly.

Reminds me how Carole King wrote The Reason and it was intended to be given to Aerosmith.  But Celine wound up with the song!  

I am trying to analyze this, but I am just not finding a point of comparison between Christina and Kelly!  LOL!

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it depends on what you mean

if by singing rival you mean just in terms of overall status and career as female singers - then of course it would be the "holy trinity" of divas - LOL celine, mariah and whitney.  although madonna's sales seem to be the only threat to celine's status as world's best selling solo female artist of all time- I could care less about madonna - because as much as I do love many madonna songs (and admit she is a great entertainer), too much of her success has been due to (imo) image, luck and controversy and less because of actual talent.

(though i'm sure madonna fans would slaughter me by claiming she is brilliant and innovative with her songwriting, dancing, innovation, reinvention of self, etc. BLAH)

however if you mean singing rival in terms of CONTINUED present vocal prowess, then mariah and whitney are both diminished by far.  recent celine lipsynching controversies and the maturation of her voice have prompted some celine fans to think she's lost part of her power before too, but I think overall her voice is still pretty much just as powerful and she's definitely preserved more of her voice by far than whitney or mariah.

so in terms of singing rivals right now (and not success) then it would have to be someone like christina aguilera I suppose, although I recently began to realize what people were talking about when they always criticized christina for growling from her throat in order to hit a note rather than hitting it directly (and also her method of always playing around the note with melismas and runs because perhaps she can't just hit it in a straight and solid manner and hold it like celine does).  in a way her growling adds grit and a special quality to her singing but as people have said in the long run this method of singing will only diminish her voice more quickly.

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i agree that christina is trying to sing beyond her voice would allow. she tries too hard that it looks like she's screaming her lungs out to please her public. she has a fine voice, but oversinging is her problem since the she started out. in the case of alicia keys, her problem is pretty much the same to christina and mariah. singing beyond their range. celine as well have this problem as well (oversingin), especially during a live performance, but she never dared herself to go beyond what she can do. she's a very disciplined person. so right now, live performances-wise, nothing compares to celine dion.

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Certainly Mariah, Whitney and Celine are in the same category, not necessarily in terms of genre, but in terms of vocal ability. However, I think it is fair to say that for all of them, their voices have gone quite a bit.

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Rival? What rival? Haven't you all heard Celine's performances in South Africa? No one comes close.
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I agree no one gets close to Celine. But, because this is like a game, I would say italian singer Laura Pausini has an enormous power in her voice.
And off course, since I am a huge Josh Groban's fan, I always say that he is to me the male version of Celine, not only because of his huge voice, but also because he's so simple and down to earth.
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I really don't like Mariah's style and voice anymore, and Withney (I'm sorry) can't (and never could) deliver a decent note when she is live.
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mmmm i would say... early in like late 80s and early 90s she does sound like whitney... for a short time then... no... no one can get close...

and i would say mmm probably maybe Barbra?
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Then again, no one has mentioned Lara Fabian yet...

I think Lara is a wonderful singer.  Her vocal range and abilities are magnificent.  I have always heard people say that Lara tries to sound like Celine.  Lara and Celine have always been compared in the past.  However, I have never thought Lara or Celine are alike or that Lara has tried to follow in Celine's footsteps.  To me, they seem like two very different artists.  Aside from the fact that they are both extremely popular in Quebec and France and one of their mutual musical influences is Barbra Streisand, they are two very different singers.  Again, I see no major points of similarity or comparison.




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