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[Céline's Blues]

Give me a freaking break with your absolutely pointless melancholy tour here! You don't seriously think you're being objective when quoting your 1997 or 1998 or 1999 concert experience to DEGRADE the magnificent concert experience the most ppl had during her 2008 tour! Where is the logic to that? Of course those who have seen Céline for the first time in 2008 will cherish the moment deep in their hearts just as you cherished the moment when YOU saw her for the first time in the 90's and guess what - NOTHING WILL EVER BEAT THE FIRST TIME. NOTHING. And your subjective feeling should not confuse ppl that truly think this FRONTAL stage gig was amazing. Cuzz let me just say, it was amazing for them and it's all what matters here. It wasn't amazing to you, also fine, more than fine. All opinions, no facts.

[DannyUK]

I have been following Celine for years. I have seen every tour since 1995 and both the round stage and the end stage have their benefits and their disadvantages. I for one think that the end stage is the best as you get to see her facing you for the whole concert. I was at Parken in Copenhagen seeing her and it was an end stage and the concert was the best I have ever seen it even beats the Stade de France in 1999. Give her a break we are being too critical you cant excpect her to sing completely new stuff all the time she has to sing the standards. I have been to concerts of other artists where they have only sung songs off the new album and believe me I did not enjoy it as much as when there is a variation of songs. Of course us die hard fans would love to see her sing only new songs but believe me when I say we are in the minority most people go to a concert because of what they know. And before anyone asks yes I have seen this tour in the round twice in London and I am also going to see her in Nice which is a end stage and Fort Laurderdale which is in the round. In Parken the part at the back on the pitch had people standing unlike Croke Parke so maybe it is the promoters we need to balme and not Celine.

[bkitt]

Wow....I really can't say that I understand this thread at all.....I took the time to look up Celine's performances that were taped at Croke Park, and it seemed as good as any other outdoor performance that I've ever attended.  Remember, Celine hated the stage in Vegas because it was difficult to perform on because of the slant.  She and her dancers did it anyway for the benefit of the fans.  I would have to agree with what someone said earlier.........I would go to hear her sing if I knew that she was just going to be standing on a chair.  She has an amazing VOICE......not an amazing stage.  I hate to hear that someone would wish her bad reviews just because they don't like what she is standing on!

[browseceline]

I am glad in Holland we had the center stage. It was great and I loved every moment of it. Celine sang great and I am sure she was not lipsinging. There was just little variations in for instance Power of Love from what I could say that it was really a life performance. I would say it was even beter than I have heard her before on dvd's like Au Coeur du Stade, but hearing her life was really amazing.
But the show itself was also very good! I liked the lighting and alle the screens and the whole show was very amazing to me. Especially because this was my first Celine experience. Loved every moment of it. I liked the fact that there was also enough variation , enough oldies and enough new material. And I could hear it very good, and on the other bootlegs of the concerts too, that this was really live !

Anyway when I would have been to a Celine outdoor concert I would have loved to see a great light show and enough to see on the stage and I do think such an amazing artist as Celine deserves a great show> look at the confessions tour of madonna. They used an end stage too, but men, that was an incredible experience; all the lights, the videoscreens etc etc. it was all perfect. Except the fact that Madonna isn't that good vocally ;-)

[katie555]

I ve looked at pictures again and it looks like U2 concert, you know those black and red  stripes from VERTIGO ?!?!?!  

[dirrtydavid]

Whilst discussing this on teamceline forums, another member posted that they got 10th row from the front in the floor seating, and they weren't even a TeamCeline member at the  time of purchase.....

[dirrtydavid]

katie555, on Jun 11 2008, 12:00 AM, said:

I ve looked at pictures again and it looks like U2 concert, you know those black and red  stripes from VERTIGO ?!?!?!  

if you're talking about the pics i posted, the Bon Jovi pic is a link, then it says U2, before the pics. I just had trouble getting the Bon Jovi pic to display....

[MartinMunich]

bkitt, on Jun 10 2008, 12:16 PM, said:

Wow....I really can't say that I understand this thread at all.....I took the time to look up Celine's performances that were taped at Croke Park, and it seemed as good as any other outdoor performance that I've ever attended.  Remember, Celine hated the stage in Vegas because it was difficult to perform on because of the slant.  She and her dancers did it anyway for the benefit of the fans.  I would have to agree with what someone said earlier.........I would go to hear her sing if I knew that she was just going to be standing on a chair.  She has an amazing VOICE......not an amazing stage.  I hate to hear that someone would wish her bad reviews just because they don't like what she is standing on!

there is no doubt about the fact that Celine is an amazing singer and performer (one of the best out there in my opinion) - and i am not at all critizising her individual qualitites.
and i am also sure that the fans (including myself) will also love what she does outdoors on the endstage.

but it doesn´t change the fact that - whoever is responsible for this stage - has put no - zero - effort in creating something nice. doesn´t have to be spectacular, but a least something where you can see that somebody somehow designed a stage for one of the biggest singers we have currently.

there is just such a major difference between the indoor setup which is perfectly fine - not too much and adds value to the performances - and the outdoor stage. if there would be a never-seen-lightshow or a state-of-the-art-screen - but it is just average. it is also not fair to the fans who pay a fortune for tickets and get two completely different shows - one show that keeps the promise her promoters made in the beginning productionwise and one very very very simple thing.

and average is not what i want to see from a celine show. i am sure she still manages to wow the crowd, because as i said initially - she is amazing.

it would have been enough to create a nice looking background, not just black canvas - or have different levels on stage on which she could walk and create different pictures - or one elevator - this is standard stuff for ages, and there is just nothing happening.

i am not necessarily wishing anybody bad reviews (unless they deserve it) and maybe it was not worded so well from myself initially but i think her team and her should know that this outdoor setup is absolutely dissappointing.

[zoea2812]

We should all count ourselves lucky that we have been able to see Celine live as some people wont ever have the chance.   

[MartinMunich]

zoea2812, on Jun 11 2008, 02:34 AM, said:

We should all count ourselves lucky that we have been able to see Celine live as some people wont ever have the chance.   

this is not an argument - it has got nothing to do with luck - more with the fact if you can buy a ticket or not.

[CellyDee87]

I don't think some people are really understanding this thread and shouldn't take things so personally. This is the Celine Dion Forum... We are fans! The title of the thread is outdoor stage a disaster... NOT Celine's performance a disaster, remember that.

As I posted previously my first time seeing Celine live was this year in Melbourne Australia of course it was special for me and will cherish the moment forever, as I waited as a patient fan since I was 5 years old. Now let me get this clear performance wise she was absolutely impeccable and breath-taking.

However in being completely honest the whole staging etc did not measure up to the standards of her voice.

Yes I know I'm lucky to have seen her and all that jazz but I go to many concerts and I must say for staging and effects wise this was the worst. Please do not take offense to what I'm saying here this is my opinion and I believe it's valid.

People above mentioned that they would be happy to see Celine in her pyjamas singing on a cardboard box... Absolutely fine be providing that the whole tour is like this. I would not care at all.

I just saw Michael Buble in concert a couple of nights ago and his staging, screens and effects the sophistication and classiness of the whole evening just was the icing on the cake of what was a brilliant performance and I too expected the whole package, the works from Celine. Michael Buble the whole event was just spectacular and was only $99. I must add also that I went to Michale Buble with the same group that went to Celine who are not as crazy for her as I am but bought every album and have been following since Unison, they all thought Michale Buble was better, he had the "WOW" factor.

Celine's poor staging and such is definitely not due to financial reasons, but I felt almost as if we were just a crowd she was "TESTING" the tour out on, like they hadn't perfected everything yet, saving the good stuff until the tour settled in Europe or until they had the means of delivering the show in all it's glory.

So yes for Croke Park management should have done something to compensate for the fact that they were getting the "PLAIN JANE" version of the tour, or else make lower ticket prices where the show will be less extravagant.

For the prices we paid for premium seating in Melbourne $300-$400AUD I was expecting much more, the feeling of being blown away by the whole show, make no mistake she blew me away but I was expecting much much more in terms of the show being spectacular for such an accomplished and a veteran to the music business. If Robbie Williams, Michael Buble and Kylie Minogue (just to name a few examples) can get it right why can't Rene and FIVE Star Feeling?

[MartinMunich]

Denelle, on Jun 11 2008, 05:18 AM, said:

I don't think some people are really understanding this thread and shouldn't take things so personally. This is the Celine Dion Forum... We are fans! The title of the thread is outdoor stage a disaster... NOT Celine's performance a disaster, remember that.

As I posted previously my first time seeing Celine live was this year in Melbourne Australia of course it was special for me and will cherish the moment forever, as I waited as a patient fan since I was 5 years old. Now let me get this clear performance wise she was absolutely impeccable and breath-taking.

However in being completely honest the whole staging etc did not measure up to the standards of her voice.

Yes I know I'm lucky to have seen her and all that jazz but I go to many concerts and I must say for staging and effects wise this was the worst. Please do not take offense to what I'm saying here this is my opinion and I believe it's valid.

People above mentioned that they would be happy to see Celine in her pyjamas singing on a cardboard box... Absolutely fine be providing that the whole tour is like this. I would not care at all.

I just saw Michael Buble in concert a couple of nights ago and his staging, screens and effects the sophistication and classiness of the whole evening just was the icing on the cake of what was a brilliant performance and I too expected the whole package, the works from Celine. Michael Buble the whole event was just spectacular and was only $99. I must add also that I went to Michale Buble with the same group that went to Celine who are not as crazy for her as I am but bought every album and have been following since Unison, they all thought Michale Buble was better, he had the "WOW" factor.

Celine's poor staging and such is definitely not due to financial reasons, but I felt almost as if we were just a crowd she was "TESTING" the tour out on, like they hadn't perfected everything yet, saving the good stuff until the tour settled in Europe or until they had the means of delivering the show in all it's glory.

So yes for Croke Park management should have done something to compensate for the fact that they were getting the "PLAIN JANE" version of the tour, or else make lower ticket prices where the show will be less extravagant.

For the prices we paid for premium seating in Melbourne $300-$400AUD I was expecting much more, the feeling of being blown away by the whole show, make no mistake she blew me away but I was expecting much much more in terms of the show being spectacular for such an accomplished and a veteran to the music business. If Robbie Williams, Michael Buble and Kylie Minogue (just to name a few examples) can get it right why can't Rene and FIVE Star Feeling?

could´n´t have said it better - that is exactelly what i mean.
thanks.

[MartinMunich]

Denelle, on Jun 11 2008, 05:18 AM, said:

I don't think some people are really understanding this thread and shouldn't take things so personally. This is the Celine Dion Forum... We are fans! The title of the thread is outdoor stage a disaster... NOT Celine's performance a disaster, remember that.

As I posted previously my first time seeing Celine live was this year in Melbourne Australia of course it was special for me and will cherish the moment forever, as I waited as a patient fan since I was 5 years old. Now let me get this clear performance wise she was absolutely impeccable and breath-taking.

However in being completely honest the whole staging etc did not measure up to the standards of her voice.

Yes I know I'm lucky to have seen her and all that jazz but I go to many concerts and I must say for staging and effects wise this was the worst. Please do not take offense to what I'm saying here this is my opinion and I believe it's valid.

People above mentioned that they would be happy to see Celine in her pyjamas singing on a cardboard box... Absolutely fine be providing that the whole tour is like this. I would not care at all.

I just saw Michael Buble in concert a couple of nights ago and his staging, screens and effects the sophistication and classiness of the whole evening just was the icing on the cake of what was a brilliant performance and I too expected the whole package, the works from Celine. Michael Buble the whole event was just spectacular and was only $99. I must add also that I went to Michale Buble with the same group that went to Celine who are not as crazy for her as I am but bought every album and have been following since Unison, they all thought Michale Buble was better, he had the "WOW" factor.

Celine's poor staging and such is definitely not due to financial reasons, but I felt almost as if we were just a crowd she was "TESTING" the tour out on, like they hadn't perfected everything yet, saving the good stuff until the tour settled in Europe or until they had the means of delivering the show in all it's glory.

So yes for Croke Park management should have done something to compensate for the fact that they were getting the "PLAIN JANE" version of the tour, or else make lower ticket prices where the show will be less extravagant.

For the prices we paid for premium seating in Melbourne $300-$400AUD I was expecting much more, the feeling of being blown away by the whole show, make no mistake she blew me away but I was expecting much much more in terms of the show being spectacular for such an accomplished and a veteran to the music business. If Robbie Williams, Michael Buble and Kylie Minogue (just to name a few examples) can get it right why can't Rene and FIVE Star Feeling?

..and at least you know that you were not the "testing" audience - we get the same here outdoors  

and you are right - she still manages to provide a good show - just by herself.
but also - just imagine how extraordinary this whole thing would be if should would have a staging that would add value to the songs - just half of what Kylie or Madonna does.

taking changes? outdoors - not really.

[Edwin]

While it would be awesome for everyone to have a great OVERALL experience, I have to know this. Would you have rather that the show didn't stop in your arena at all if the show couldn't be at full scale? Or just take what you can even if it means a subpar stage?
I understand the disappointment expressed, I really do. But I can also see the point that the alternative would have been no show at all.

[Bellamy]

Once again, the stage setup has nothing to do with indoor or outdoor. The topic title itself is misleading. There're many outdoor dates use the good 4 sides stage. And there're many indoor dates use the simple front end stage. So it's obviously it depends on the venue setup, not Celine's team to choose which stage they can use. I agree they could have make the front end stage better. But I also understand they spend most of their efforts on the 4 sides stage.

[MartinMunich]

EdwinDeux, on Jun 11 2008, 10:53 AM, said:

While it would be awesome for everyone to have a great OVERALL experience, I have to know this. Would you have rather that the show didn't stop in your arena at all if the show couldn't be at full scale? Or just take what you can even if it means a subpar stage?
I understand the disappointment expressed, I really do. But I can also see the point that the alternative would have been no show at all.

For me the perfect alternative (actually no alternative, should have been the first choice) would have been to play the Olympic Hall here in Munich - seats for 15,000 people. And if one night is not enough, do it like in Manchester and play two.
She would have had two sold out concerts at least, being able to play on the proper stage instead of having a half empty Olympic Stadium on this outdoor thing.

Can´t help it but I think her management is not doing a good job at all anymore - she plays a lot of concerts here in Germany, even in cities like Stuttgart which are only a 2 hour car drive away from Munich. The results are not even close to being sold out concerts plus they had to change the seating chart for the Olympic Stadium and move the stage to get at least the feeling of a crowd. Didn´t sell that well (no wonder, with 65,000 tickets on sale and concerts everywhere close by + she didn´t have a hit record for ages here).

All in all, I think it was not planned that well.

[MartinMunich]

Bellamy, on Jun 11 2008, 03:08 PM, said:

Once again, the stage setup has nothing to do with indoor or outdoor. The topic title itself is misleading. There're many outdoor dates use the good 4 sides stage. And there're many indoor dates use the simple front end stage. So it's obviously it depends on the venue setup, not Celine's team to choose which stage they can use. I agree they could have make the front end stage better. But I also understand they spend most of their efforts on the 4 sides stage.

Not really - they only use the 4 side stage outdoors if the roof can be closed. That was the case in every outdoor concert with the 4 side stage so far.
Croke Park can host the highest technical sophisticated stages as well as the Munich Olympic Stadium (U2, Bon Jovi, Tina Turner, Robbie Williams..) - it is definitely not a venue limitation - but I think the 4-side-stage is not useable for outdoors in case of rain whatever...
So if Celines Team decides to do outdoor-shows as well I would expect something appropriate.

And no - I do not understand why they spend most of their efforts on the 4 side stage because people have paid the same price and get two completely different levels of qualitiy.

Edited by MartinMunich, 12 June 2008 - 01:42 AM.

[bfhb]

MartinMunich, on Jun 12 2008, 08:38 AM, said:

Bellamy, on Jun 11 2008, 03:08 PM, said:

Once again, the stage setup has nothing to do with indoor or outdoor. The topic title itself is misleading. There're many outdoor dates use the good 4 sides stage. And there're many indoor dates use the simple front end stage. So it's obviously it depends on the venue setup, not Celine's team to choose which stage they can use. I agree they could have make the front end stage better. But I also understand they spend most of their efforts on the 4 sides stage.

Not really - they only use the 4 side stage outdoors if the roof can be closed. That was the case in every outdoor concert with the 4 side stage so far.
Croke Park can host the highest technical sophisticated stages as well as the Munich Olympic Stadium (U2, Bon Jovi, Tina Turner, Robbie Williams..) - it is definitely not a venue limitation - but I think the 4-side-stage is not useable for outdoors in case of rain whatever...
So if Celines Team decides to do outdoor-shows as well I would expect something appropriate.

And no - I do not understand why they spend most of their efforts on the 4 side stage because people have paid the same price and get two completely different levels of qualitiy.

iI agree with u Martin ....Croke Park was done very cheaply and it was not a patch on the bercy show i saw i feel sorry for the fans who were cheated of the proper concert..all 64000 + of them ....yes Celine was fab....but really she deserved a much better stage and light show and so did the fans who parted with their money !!   A lot of very negative feedback here over it and also how short the set was and how disappointing that their was no duet with Il Divo...
it could have and should have been so much more .

[MartinMunich]

Hey everyone,

I am pretty much aware of the fact that critical words are not very welcome on a fan forum - but at the the same time a consider myself being a fan  - who did not really like what he saw lately.

I have attended the Munich concert and now that a couple of days have gone by I have to say that all in all it was major dissappointment.

First of all, the circumstances where not that great - Celine played the Olympic Stadium which has place for 65,000 people and only 14,000 fans where there. Ticket sales (actually for all german concerts) were extremely poor. An almost empty stadium.
This shows how much the interest in Celine went down after being away from the charts for almost 10 years - back in 99, at the height of her career, the stadium was sold out. People were paying a fortune on the black markets just to be part.
This lack of interest has several reasons - the records after "Lets talk about love" flopped - the material she recorded after that was not really the best - with a few outstanding songs of course. Then she did her Vegas-thing which kind of made her disappear for the rest of the word outside the states.
With "Taking chances" I think she released a decent album with some great songs on it - but no promotion, no singles except one - another flop.

But CD sales figures are going down for any of the "old school" artist, I like "Taking chances" a lot and I thought now that she goes on tour she can show the world why she is known as one of the best pop singers in the world. If one can rock a stage than it is Celine.
Even her hardest critizisers who call her too cheesy and kitschy had to admit that she can belt out a ballad like no one else, that she is perfect in what she does and that she delivers dramatic state-of-the-art-shows.
When I heared the announcement that the concerts will be an "amazing show with highest technical standards put together by Jamie King" I thought: Yes, cool, this will put her back to the top where she belongs.

Then the first pictures of the South Africa concerts came out. The set-list, first youtube-videos - I thought: Well, she is warming up, the "real" concerts start after Jamie King joins and does his magic it will be the concert experience the fans were waiting for.
But what a mistake. Nothing changed.

I can only comment on the outdoor concert as this is the one I attended - so this is what I saw:

The stage is a joke - always rented in the local venues, every public viewing screen for the current soccer championships looked more sophisticated. A few lamps, small screens - thats it.
Construction workers standing on stage - I could not believe what I saw.
There was no - zero - effort put into a stage design.

Celine arrived in the stadium and everybody saw her - before the intro video started - walking on stage to her dressing tent (yes, it is a tent). Everybody was kinda irritated. After the video was over you saw her again walking out of her tent to the back of the stage to "appear" from the back. Everybody has already seen her a couple of times. No wow-effect, nothing.

Though the idea of the video and "I drove all night" as an opener is a great idea it just didn´t work because of the before mentioned reasons.

Celine was good, but not great - she had her moments ("My love"), but she seemed to be bored and not so into it. She did not talk much, it looked like she wanted to finish and leava. Like one newspaper wrote, it looked like she did an afternoon show and quickly wanted to finish the evening show.
The arrangements for the songs were the same ten-year-old things every has heared over and over - and how in the world could a singer be passionated about songs she has done 5 days a week for five years.
It showed clearly that she should have taken a break.

And the show - well, there was none. The few lamps didn´t add much to the songs, the dancers did not come out on that flat stage, the only "special effect" was her cape and a wind machine during "eyes on me". wow.

The setlist - pretty ok, but "We will rock you"? If a high school band plays that people would say: Come on, think of something not so dull. That was an odd moment, carefully said.

I know that die-hard fans enjoyed the show, and I am happy for you all - it really took some time for me to analyze and realize that this is one of the worst concerts I have ever seen.
And that after her giving me the best concert experience in my life with her 99-LTAL-Show.

She rushed through the songs, the sound was bad, the stage was terrible, the show was not existing.

I honestly never ever thought that it could possible for me to feel that way, I never thought I could be so massively dissappointed by her and her concert.

I think she failed big time with this tour - a lot of people thought that. Reviews here in the local papers ranged from mixed to very bad.
I honestly don´t think that even half of the people attended would pay those outragoues prices again to see her.

It was simply not good.


She should buy a couple of dvds and look what Madonna, Kylie, Beyonce, Tina Turner, Pink, Anastacia, Mariah, Cher or other similar artists do these days - I know, it is all about Celines voice, blabla, but the other girls can sing too AND boy, they know what a show has to look like these days.

Edited by MartinMunich, 01 July 2008 - 04:56 AM.

[Julian]

Oh mein Gott.... Sei doch einfach mal zufrieden mit dem was du hast und nörgel nicht an einem stück rum.
Sie hätte garnicht auftreten müssen, das wäre a big dissappointment.
Es ist wie es ist und man kann eh nix dran ändern.

@ Mod. this dont need a new extra topic. Please put it to the Munich thread that we already have because this is mostly just a review!

Edited by Julian, 01 July 2008 - 05:11 AM.

[CSCfan]

MartinMunich, on Jul 1 2008, 12:41 PM, said:

When I heared the announcement that the concerts will be an "amazing show with highest technical standards put together by Jamie King" I thought: Yes, cool, this will put her back to the top where she belongs.

Then the first pictures of the South Africa concerts came out. The set-list, first youtube-videos - I thought: Well, she is warming up, the "real" concerts start after Jamie King joins and does his magic it will be the concert experience the fans were waiting for.
But what a mistake. Nothing changed.

I can only comment on the outdoor concert as this is the one I attended - so this is what I saw:

The stage is a joke - always rented in the local venues, every public viewing screen for the current soccer championships looked more sophisticated. A few lamps, small screens - thats it.
Construction workers standing on stage - I could not believe what I saw.
There was no - zero - effort put into a stage design.

I understand your frustration, but remember this.... the full production of the tour is the one with the round stage. You have to see that one to truly give an objective opinion about this tour. The fact that they have to use an end (and stripped down) stage at several venues is all because of logistics. Could you imagine paying for and maintaining 2 very expensive stages? That would drive the costs (and tickets sales) even more up. It would be a nightmare. So one is full production and one has to be stripped down.  

I really have to say the magic IS there with the in-the-round stage (wherever your seated).

[Davey84]

MartinMunich, on Jul 1 2008, 12:41 PM, said:

She should buy a couple of dvds and look what Madonna, Kylie, Beyonce, Tina Turner, Pink, Anastacia, Mariah, Cher or other similar artists do these days -

(lol oke you did haha)

erm don't you know that Jamie King (responsible for Madonna's Confession tour) designed this tour??
Because you didn't get to see the 'in the round stage' doesn't mean that the tour is bad! I can understand your disappointment... but if you saw a show in Paris, Antwerp, Amsterdam, or London, you would see the show is on fire!

I agree though, 6 concerts in Germany alone was too much, but you can't blame céline! blame the greedy organiser and René! maybe if Munich was sold out, they have used the in the round stage

but to say this tour is a dissappontment is a feeling shared only amongst a few

Edited by Davey84, 01 July 2008 - 05:16 AM.

[stevo]

I agree that the end stage show is anything but spectacular- I saw the central stage show twice, then the end stage show in Dublin- if it hadn't been for the 68000 people absolutely mad for Celine, the show there would have been a disappointment. The tour is basically riding on the central stage which is just perfect- that's where the money was invested. I think they've made a booboo in that the end stage show is so lacking- it could have been so much better. Like I just saw Bon Jovi in Manchester- end stage in Stadium- spectacular- the creens moving up and down etc- phenomenal- if half of Celine's tour is end stage, they shouldn't just have such a  basic and quite frankly cheap set up.

[amyja89]

I'm sorry you feel that way... but as you said yourself you saw an outdoor concert, and therefore can't pronounce the whole tour as a dissapointment as you:

A. Did not experience the indoor set-up, which was in my opinion awesome.

and

B. Did not see any other shows to compare it to.

From your review it sounds like Celine had an off night, and I understand you're frustration, but it's unfair to make assumptions about the whole tour.

[alexisthess]

I don't really get it! Maybe we see things from a different point of view.
It was the first time i saw Celine live and all these things seem detail to me!

I was (and i am) excited i saw her, i heard her voice live. I was not in Madonna's concert to be worried about the stage, about the fact that i saw her before the intro etc. I became a fan of Celine's just because of her voice and her songs. I don't care about the stage or the promotion or the crowd...! I am not going to a Celine's concert for all that. Of course it would be great if she was in a period like 1996-2000 but i am so happy, proud and thakfull i saw her live for the first time in my life!

[MartinMunich]

amyja89, on Jul 1 2008, 06:21 AM, said:

I'm sorry you feel that way... but as you said yourself you saw an outdoor concert, and therefore can't pronounce the whole tour as a dissapointment as you:

A. Did not experience the indoor set-up, which was in my opinion awesome.

and

B. Did not see any other shows to compare it to.

From your review it sounds like Celine had an off night, and I understand you're frustration, but it's unfair to make assumptions about the whole tour.

Probably, yes.
Everyone who saw the indoor set up seemed to like it a lot.

Don´t get me wrong, I really don´t need to see moving elevators and so on if it comes to Celine - she is mostly enough.
But I never ever would have expected to something that extremely cheap looking. Nobody seemed to care. It just looked like a lame copy of the indoor show - she still did her dress changes and so on, but just walked into a tent on the side of the stage - everybody could see everything, it was just so unprofessional and nobody seemed to care about the atmosphere or to create something special for the people watching.

Do you know what I mean?

[Davey84]

HMM yeah that is strange, they could have done that much better... but that proves that arena's aren't build for concerts

[Love,]

I want to be politically correct and say that there were short-comings from Celine's Munich concert. I know that many of us optimists feel that the Tour itself is amazing (which it is), but each concert experience matters. There should be an equality in production value, staging, performance value, etc. that is cohesive from the very first concert to the very last concert. For the production of a concert for THE WORLD'S BEST SELLING FEMALE ARTIST - it was laughable to see three medium-sized LED screens and canvas stage wrapping. LOL It looked like a bigger version of the stage you would see at county fairs and municipal festivals.

It was not like they did not have the money or access to these things. They were in Germany, for goodness sakes

Look at the staging design that CBS had commissioned for the 2008 CBS TV Special taping. That was for a tiny production that was set up and taken down in the same night. Although it was on a smaller scale - there was so much beauty to it.

If you look at Westlife's Croke Park stage and performance, you can see that the possibilities are endless:


But overall, I can't judge too much about the Munich concert as a whole, because I was there for only half the show. LOL I do feel that this Tour is quite succcessful in its overall number, reception, and global reach - but each person who attends the concert matters, and they deserve to get their money's worth.

Edited by Love,, 01 July 2008 - 05:56 AM.

[alexisthess]

Love,, on Jul 1 2008, 02:54 PM, said:

but each person who attends the concert matters, and they deserve to get their money's worth.

Each person estimates this "get my money worth" in a different way. For some is just about listening Celine, for others is the stage or the crowd in the stadium etc. but i am afraid that some times we lose the essence of this tour and of this woman and performer called Celine Dion.

Ok, i may be too optimistic because it was the first time i saw Celine in my life (and i am so happy that i don't feel disappointed in any way) but for ex. when i paid for my ticket the stage (round or not), the show etc were the last things i had in mind.

Edited by alexisthess, 01 July 2008 - 06:07 AM.

[idanwcd]

Considering they are using the end stage much more than the round stage, the former should have been much and much better.

Needless to say I attended her concert in Berlin and the experience was incredible.  She was amazing but it wasnt much of a show (few liight effects etc...)  It is true that Celine doesnt need a show like Madonna because her songs are mainly ballads and people pay to see her mainly to hear her sing and not to watch a great show however still it should have been much more spectacular.  I still enjoyed it a lot of course.